Coronavirus Outbreak

[Gyfts]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/california-coronavirus-cases.html

Southern California reportedly has just hit 0% ICU bed availability. COVID cases are skyrocketing in California, and remember - they had the most stringent lockdown regulations across the country akin to places like NYC.

So why are cases surging? Turns out, this thing spreads regardless of what you do, and unnecessary regulations on small businesses do absolutely nothing. You have some businesses and industries closed AND a surge in cases. You destroy jobs and the local economy, and get to enjoy hundreds of deaths per day, with hospitals swamped.

Something doesn't add up. Strategy from day 1 should have been to protect the most vulnerable, not focusing on stupidity like putting regulations on small businesses or relying on masks to act as magic pixie dust and solve this thing. Texas followed a similar model with a speedy reopening but laid off the government regulation of businesses. And I THINK, (could be wrong), that the movie/hollywood industry in California is completely open while small businesses, restaurants for example, are forced to do take out.

Basically, the elite get to have their way.

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Yup. Lockdowns, even if they do work, end up pushing off what's going to come regardless.

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[franky1]

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/california-coronavirus-cases.html

Southern California reportedly has just hit 0% ICU bed availability. COVID cases are skyrocketing in California, and remember - they had the most stringent lockdown regulations across the country akin to places like NYC.

So why are cases surging? Turns out, this thing spreads regardless of what you do, and unnecessary regulations on small businesses do absolutely nothing. You have some businesses and industries closed AND a surge in cases. You destroy jobs and the local economy, and get to enjoy hundreds of deaths per day, with hospitals swamped.

turns out regulations are for people. because the virus has not legs or arms or eyes or a brain.its people that spread the virus and people that end up in hospital

turns out the virus doesnt spread no matter what.... it actually spreads due to what people do

so when there are rules for people. but those people ignore/disobey the rules.. then those people get affected

many people stupidly think regulations/rules apply directly to the virus and not the people. stupid people think ok its a strict lockdown so while i continue to mingle the virus will decide not to move..

sorry thats not how it works. people need to stop mingling.

so when california see too many people... ill repeat PEOPLE mingling in bars/pubs/clubs then those businesses need to close.

here is the thing. if PEOPLE were more smart to actually respect personal spaces. they would not spread the virus. and there wouldnt be a 'super spreader' event in bars and clubs. meaning that bars and clubs could remain open.

yep if people actually followed the ADVICE. then it would not then be extended into enforced laws.

so if you dont want to spread the virus. dont disrespect personal space

remember hospitals see PEOPLE on hospital beds. so ask how did those PEOPLE get the virus.
its not a situation with little breadcrumb sized beds having nano sized viruses where hospitals treat the virus.
hospitals treat PEOPLE that have the virus because those PEOPLE came into contact with other PEOPLE

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i understand your mental methodology where you would prefer bars/restaurants to do a age check and disallow access to people over 50, rather than a mask check.
but if lots of people under 50 mingle. and then go home and breathe around their older relatives. the result is the same.
so they need to even stop the under 50's from getting it, even though most wont get sick. they still pass it onto others who will spread it.
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when it gets to a point where there is no more hospital capacity. they need to seriously stop all spread as much as possible. because it seems people just cant take the advice before it got to such a problem..

like you Gyfts. even knowing there is no capacity left. you still want to mingle in bars and restaurants.. which just shows you are ignorning the advice not to mingle with strangers in public indoor spaces

[BADecker]

^^^ How do you know that people don't spread wellness, in the same way they spread sickness? Science doesn't want to study such, because there isn't any money in it.

[franky1]

^^^ How do you know that people don't spread wellness, in the same way they spread sickness? Science doesn't want to study such, because there isn't any money in it.

isnt money in spreading wellness?
churches profit from gatherings
protest placard salesmen profit from gatherings

heck christmas, easter, new years, valentines, fathers day mothers day, thanksgiving are all profitable events

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but now it brings up the real question. something you have flip flopped
your against business making profit in some of your posts.. so are you actually anti-capitalist?

i ask this because for 9 months you have been arguing to risk lives so that businesses can run and make money..
but then you flip and start arguing when businesses make money.

so can you make a decision. which means more to you lives or profits

simply reply with either lives or profits.

[BADecker]

^^^ How do you know that people don't spread wellness, in the same way they spread sickness? Science doesn't want to study such, because there isn't any money in it.

isnt money in spreading wellness?
churches profit from gatherings
protest placard salesmen profit from gatherings

heck christmas, easter, new years, valentines, fathers day mothers day, thanksgiving are all profitable events

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but now it brings up the real question. something you have flip flopped
your against business making profit in some of your posts.. so are you actually anti-capitalist?

i ask this because for 9 months you have been arguing to risk lives so that businesses can run and make money..
but then you flip and start arguing when businesses make money.

so can you make a decision. which means more to you lives or profits

simply reply with either lives or profits.

Lives and profit.

We all feel better when we have profit. Profit makes us smile. It makes us happy. And we live better when we are happy, no matter if we are profitable or not.

Does going against the truth like you do make you happy? If it does, you have some reward in life. Let's hope you are happy, because living without the truth - like you do - will only tend towards your destruction.

[franky1]

you pretend to support lives.. but then twist it into 'profit and happiness'

i know your an idiot that doesnt care about this life because you think you can earn some fantasy life after death.
but just one reality check. this is the only life you have. dont waste it on fantasy.

you might be happy to die. but most normal people are not. and as for profit. you cant take it with you if you die so why concentrate on it now if you dont care about the life you have now.

maybe deep down you are suicidal and have a fantasy of game theory where if you dont succeed you just kill yourself and restart with a new life.
im starting to think that is your mentality.

but as for now supporting profit. why do you always argue about the main thing you hate in the medical industry, which is the profiteering.

are you atleast noticing how your hate of pharma profiteering clashes with your republican capitalism

if i had a fantasy life like you do i would actually prefer a situation where the pharma companies make stuff at cost for the public healthcare system. and win awards and trust to then profit in the private healthcare system.
that way those in true need of healthcare but without the funds. are not ripped off.
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anyway back to the topic.
hospitals do not make excess profit from covid diagnosed deaths. and the vaccines are not being produced at excess profits.
doctors order tests and scans. and those costs of those are added up. but tests and scans are a scarce resource and there needs to be a clinical reason to do tests and scans. they dont just poke and prod patients and perform every test and scan in existance. they only use the resources that are needed
(EG you wont get a brain scan for a foot injury)

governments months ago already put cost restrictions in to ensure that the treatment, care and vaccinations for covid are not used as a profit game.

however your advertising useless supplements and treatments that dont treat covid is a profit game for pill mill clinics. and from the looks of it. you have been duped into supporting pharma profiteering without yourself making any financial gains from your adverts.

this makes you even worse than the bitcointalk forum spammers with scam adverts in their footer. becasue atleast they are making a few satoshi's out of it

[Gyfts]

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If you're going to have COVID regulations in place, at least make sure they're reasonable so people will bother following them.

If you are going to shut down restaurants when outbreaks aren't linked to restaurants, why would people bother taking what the government suggests seriously if the policies they're introducing aren't data based?

Texas did it right. Shut down bars, kept restaurants open with capacity limits. Didn't shut down major industries.

[BADecker]

you pretend to support lives.. but then twist it into 'profit and happiness'

i know your an idiot that doesnt care about this life because you think you can earn some fantasy life after death.
but just one reality check. this is the only life you have. dont waste it on fantasy. - Ever heard of micromachines? Engineers and scientists are making new ones all the time. What do they use to make these machines? They use the super-micromachines of nature in all of them. Machines have makers. The super-machines of nature have a super-Maker. The meaning of the term "Almighty God" fits Him. When are you going to stop being so ignorant?

you might be happy to die. but most normal people are not. and as for profit. you cant take it with you if you die so why concentrate on it now if you dont care about the life you have now. - The only reason we live is because God knows that we aren't happy with the thought of dying. So, He gives us life as we wish - because He is love. The greater profit we can take with us is the saving alive of our own soul. The greatest profit exists in saving the souls of others.

maybe deep down you are suicidal and have a fantasy of game theory where if you dont succeed you just kill yourself and restart with a new life.
im starting to think that is your mentality. - The only reason why you think that way, is because you are in the process of suicide yourself. Being in it, you can't look around you and see it clearly. Turn to faith in God, so that you can see that you don't have to kill yourself as you are.

but as for now supporting profit. why do you always argue about the main thing you hate in the medical industry, which is the profiteering. - Haven't you realized yet, that profit that harms other people rather than helping them, will wind up in unhappiness, ultimately? People like Bill Gates, who have enough money to keep themselves alive for a long time when body parts start to fail, are preparing for this because they trust that science will come up with everlasting life in the near future.

God loves these people as well. So He lets them have what they ask for, while at the same time giving them access to the knowledge that will give them eternal life. At the Judgment, we will all be given a reward. If our reward is based in things that fail - like science - we will simply lose our life for the final time. However, this last-time life-loss will be way more painful than the first death.

But if we understood about the eternal God-life, we would have sympathy and empathy for other people in this life, and not try to harm them for profit. Look at the evidence and proof that Del Bigtree is showing us in The Highwire, to see that vaccines are hurting people, and that the things I show in my signature area are helping people.

are you atleast noticing how your hate of pharma profiteering clashes with your republican capitalism - Money is a lie. Bank loans are a creation of new money. The signer on the loan creates new money when he signs the promissory note.

if i had a fantasy life like you do i would actually prefer a situation where the pharma companies make stuff at cost for the public healthcare system. and win awards and trust to then profit in the private healthcare system.
that way those in true need of healthcare but without the funds. are not ripped off.
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anyway back to the topic.
hospitals do not make excess profit from covid diagnosed deaths. and the vaccines are not being produced at excess profits. - My, but you are unusually slow today. Consider vaccines and what they cost the individual. The vaxxer who goes to get a vaccine, pays a reasonable amount for the vaccine. But the anti-vaxxer, who doesn't get the vaccine, pays for it as well. How? In tax money that he pays. Government supports Big Pharma through grants and other funding. The money comes from everybody. Vaxxers simply pay a little more than they know for their vaccine.

The hidden costs are in their taxes that they pay. Other hidden costs for vaxxers will come in all the side-effect pain.

Anti-vaxxers pay through their taxes, but don't get the vaccine, and have the benefit of no vccine side-effects.

So, Big Pharma is acctually making anti-vaxxers into vaxxers by forcing them to partially pay for the vaccines of the vaxxers. Big Pharma is totally evil in this.
doctors order tests and scans. and those costs of those are added up. but tests and scans are a scarce resource and there needs to be a clinical reason to do tests and scans. they dont just poke and prod patients and perform every test and scan in existance. they only use the resources that are needed
(EG you wont get a brain scan for a foot injury) - Sometimes your great understanding of the way things work really astounds everyone!

governments months ago already put cost restrictions in to ensure that the treatment, care and vaccinations for covid are not used as a profit game. - As was explained above, taxes pay for most of it.

however your advertising useless supplements and treatments that dont treat covid is a profit game for pill mill clinics. and from the looks of it. you have been duped into supporting pharma profiteering without yourself making any financial gains from your adverts.

this makes you even worse than the bitcointalk forum spammers with scam adverts in their footer. becasue atleast they are making a few satoshi's out of it

As you have said, pills aren't prescribed for just any old thing. They are presceibed for what works.

Generally, if used as directed, the pills I talk about won't harm anybody, because they have been tested for decades. The vaccines haven't been safety tested for long enough to prove that they are safe. In fact, it's just the opposite. The safety tests show that they are not safe, and that sickness increases from them, and that they are killing people all around, and that Big Pharma is lying about their safety.

As long as you want to keep your head in the sand with the ostriches, you have nothing useful to say. But even if you happened to take a look at real life rather than your self-imposed propagandization, the shock of reality would probably destroy you before you had a chance to say any more.

[Tash]

Microbiologist Dr Sucharit Bhaki
https://youtu.be/w0YJCQqvF6g

[BADecker]

Regarding Covid, there are 3 kinds of people in the world:
1. People who know that it's a big fat lie;
2. People who don't care to find out;
3. The Covid liars, usually for money.

[Tash]

It is clear why the patents exist for the virus.
The future of humanity is at stake, Dr. Carrie Madej
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kQ73s2S0rYJJ/
Time to wake up

[franky1]

It is clear why the patents exist for the virus.
The future of humanity is at stake, Dr. Carrie Madej
https://www.bitchute.com/video/kQ73s2S0rYJJ/
Time to wake up

she has no clue..
she is trained to give back rubs and leg massages.. not in the immune system or dna/rna

DNA is not RNA
and one little 'letter' change in rna will not cause damage
changes to rna does not change dna

downsyndrome mutates requires 48million base pair(letter) changes at DNA level. not rna level

the synthetic rna put into people as a vaccine is only ~1300 'letters'
the purpose is for the rna to be presented as something the body should attack and then remember

it does not mutate the cells. it does not damage the cells. it just enters your body and says look at me. now kill me

your body is not told new techniques to kill it. it is not re-programmed.. your body just uses the tools/systems it already has to figure out the best way to kill the invader. and then remember how using the bodies natural immuno memory system

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she then goes on a science FICTION rant pretending that hospital monitoring devices are going to be injected into people. (facepalm)

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she sounds like them herbal pill mill clinic owners that have a small clinic in a stripmall. trying to sell nature and back rubs as ways to heal everything.

edit after research:
oh and she lost her job with a medical group in 2015 for her 'holistic' malpractice.
now i understand why she hates real medicine
.. heck more research reveals she avoided going to dentists for years even with many tooth issues.

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even the video she admits she cut off all links to hospitals and insurances and people were threatening her due to her silly nonsense.
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dang so much fail in her life.. and it seems she just wants to 'work' cash in hand with stupid people that would pay for her holistic remedies

[tvbcof]

Microbiologist Dr Sucharit Bhaki
https://youtu.be/w0YJCQqvF6g

Jewtubed already.

Bhaki is a totally mainstream scientist and academic who has never said anything even remotely questionable scientifically speaking.  At least nothing that I've heard or read.

DuckDuckGo hopped-to early on and completely censored everything on Bitchute where one can have a little more confidence that a vid which questions the 'mainstream narrative' in the slightest will last more than a few hours.  Maybe it's just coincidence, but DuckDuckGo seems to be also owned/run by a member of the tribe.

Bitchute's own internal index has made some progress finally (more than bitcointalk.org.)  Not a lot, but some is better than nothing.  Almost always I jump to a vid or channel on that platform.  I made the mistake of visiting Bitchute's main page with the thought of maybe making a donation a few days ago.  Total Q-Tard paradise with all of the zio-phonys front and center (spermovich, probosic, rebbele, infowhores, etc.)  No thanks.  Hopefully someone runs with some of their better ideas and gets it going prior to their inevitable implosion.  And it would be a as good of an idea to archive worthwhile content off that platform as it was to do so on Jewtube over the last few years (I have seen sensitive scientific work about stuff like MS and Lyme disappear from Jewtube for at least 6 years now so I knew it was coming.)

[franky1]

Microbiologist Dr Sucharit Bhaki
https://youtu.be/w0YJCQqvF6g

he has never treated a patient in his life.
he is a professor. not a medical doctor

he retired years ago so has no hands on knowledge of covid.
his book is just an edit of his old conspiracy book from 2006

i guarantee you he has never actually looked at covid under the microscope. so all his rants are just politics

[tvbcof]

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i guarantee you he has never actually looked at covid under the microscope.

Lol!  That's an easy guarantee to make since nobody has.  Nobody has looked at back pain under a microscope either.  You are such an ass-clown.  It's actually pretty good to have you around for that reason.

[Gyfts]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hospitals-retreat-from-early-covid-treatment-and-return-to-basics-11608491436

Very scary and concerning admissions in this article. Doctors/nurses were knowingly sedating patients who had the virus unnecessarily so they could control the spread. A sedated patient means they require less attention from the medical staff. They also admit that they would intubate patients early because they thought it would reduce the chance of the infected person from spreading the virus. All this wasn't necessarily out of malpractice, but more so out of self interest not willing to do everything you can to save a patient.

If you look at the cases in March/April with the fact we were losing 2k people a day compared to the 5x case load we have today and ~1.5x the deaths per day currently, if you were an older person and got infected in March, good chance you were dead, and it might have been preventable.

Unfortunately, this gives the anti-vax crowd a lot of ammo. Why trust the doctors?

[1miau]

Microbiologist Dr Sucharit Bhaki
https://youtu.be/w0YJCQqvF6g

he has never treated a patient in his life.
he is a professor. not a medical doctor

he retired years ago so has no hands on knowledge of covid.
his book is just an edit of his old conspiracy book from 2006

i guarantee you he has never actually looked at covid under the microscope. so all his rants are just politics

That’s right, Bhakdi is a self-proclaimed “Coronavirus specialist” spreading his disproven claims about Coronavirus everywhere. He went to German TV, he went to Austrian TV and he went to various YouTube channels.
I’m from Germany and can confirm that he's a total joke. Long ago, he was a University professor for micro biology until he retired 8 years ago. When Bhakdi denied Coronavirus, the University announced that they don’t support his claims and called them “misleading and wrong”. 
Bhakdi is already retired and hasn’t practical experience, he was professor for microbiology (LOL!!  ), not epidemic studies or similar.
But he’s using his former position as University Prof. and Dr. (PhD.) to look more legit.
He has also written a book now and is promoting it everywhere to find some fools buying it. The only people taking him seriously are die-hard corona-deniers.

Watch out, there are so many pseudo scientists spreading bs everywhere!

[franky1]

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i guarantee you he has never actually looked at covid under the microscope.

Lol!  That's an easy guarantee to make since nobody has.  Nobody has looked at back pain under a microscope either.  You are such an ass-clown.  It's actually pretty good to have you around for that reason.

thats where you are wrong.
scientists know that the covid virus looks like a ball with spikey outer surface and not for instance a lengthy string.
thats one of the observational ways they know that its part of the corona family and not the ebola family

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as for backpain. they actually have studied backpain under microscope. they example nerves upclose. yes science and medical research know the different causes of backpain.
they actually are in the year 2020 not 1520. they can actually see the difference between bone damage nerve damage muscle damage or inflamatory caused pains.

[franky1]

Watch out, there are so many pseudo scientists spreading bs everywhere!

what you learn fast about these pseudo scientists is that they use their social media prominence to spout out as many stories as they can. and hope some conspiracy organisation will pick up on their story and then hire them to talk.
they are not interested in science. they are interested in book/conference tours.

they are playing the pop music game. release lots of random songs and see which one becomes famous, and then get paid from it. even if the lyrics are stupid/nonsense
EG "im a barbie girl".. yet in reality the female singer in aqua, is not actually made of plastic even though she repeats she is several times

real doctors treat patients by running tests and scans and finding solutions to the patients symptoms.
false doctors get paid from people just going to conferences/bookstores

if you see a guy that has not treated a patient but has writer status of a book.. then you know he is not an real medical doctor

[franky1]

https://www.wsj.com/articles/hospitals-retreat-from-early-covid-treatment-and-return-to-basics-11608491436

Very scary and concerning admissions in this article.

this was something that was an issue in march. but it was not a process that was continued in summer/autumn

in most cases it was due to there being so many patients. they could not attend every patient at every minutes. infact cases in NewYork had ER doctors doing ARDS procedures because they were not trained for ICU but were temporarily placed into ICU to help with the other staff.
doctors from NEW YORK that done this wrong procedure in march were dismissed in march and made to get off the ICU wards.

the doctor in the article was not talking about personal experience. he was making anecdotal summaries of things he has heard about.

yes putting some people on ARDS protocol(sedate and intubate) when all they need is a nasal canular(small oxygen tube across the nostrels). but as said this was just a bad thing that occured for only a week or two due to how the pandemic surprised some that were untrained for the ward they were helping with.

ARDS procedure is like the final option. but is still an option. and has from april+ been something that has/should only be done as a last resort.

in short: old news