Coronavirus Outbreak

[franky1]

and yet badecker himself said the way to prove that things are done proper is if they pass the koch, rivers and bell psotulums/tests.. and they did
so debunking badeckers mindless thoughts yet again.
mindless because i already debunked his rationale of how the tests are faulty ages ago, but he seemed to have forgot

but it seems now badecker wants to think millions of people are on some conspiracy script where they all know about it. where it is somehow the delivery drivers of the samples from the test centre to the labs that are some nefarious group of people around the world tainting samples

sorry but to arrange such an elaborate conspiracy of so many people around the world is not even logical

badecker. how about actually learn the whole process involved.

[BADecker]

and yet badecker himself said the way to prove that things are done proper is if they pass the koch, rivers and bell psotulums/tests.. and they did
so debunking badeckers mindless thoughts yet again.
mindless because i already debunked his rationale of how the tests are faulty ages ago, but he seemed to have forgot

but it seems now badecker wants to think millions of people are on some conspiracy script where they all know about it. where it is somehow the delivery drivers of the samples from the test centre to the labs that are some nefarious group of people around the world tainting samples

sorry but to arrange such an elaborate conspiracy of so many people around the world is not even logical

badecker. how about actually learn the whole process involved.

That's what we like about you, franky1. Always a bunch of claims, but seldom any reference to see if the claims are true or not.

If BADecker did indeed talk about the way to prove things, and if they were proven the way BADecker said, let's see the proof, right?

You manage to show a bunch of general links here and there, once in a while. But without a direct reference to the actual part where the proof is shown, neither you nor anybody knows what was really done. You are kinda saying something like, "The proof is in the library of Congress. And the address of the Library of Congress is, '101 Independence Ave, SE'."

Are you even once going to show some of a report that actually follows through with the protocols and the postulates? Are you ever going to show the wording from a test that even shows that they did the tests properly? I would like to see it. Dr. Andrew Kaufman would like to see it.

So far, all we get out of you is a bunch of hearsay.

Somebody might have done the tests properly. Please show us where, and prove it by showing the actual wording.

[elisabetheva]

There are 6 countries in Africa that almost weren't affected by Covid.

There are few countries which are affected only few numbers of people by covid 19. According to https://www.worldometers.info/ there are 3 countries where number of affected people is less than 10 and there are 13 countries where affected number is less than 20. It means they have affected too low but that doesn't mean they have not been affected.

whether the inspection for the slightly affected countries has been properly carried out, is it impossible for the sampling inspection to be carried out according to the rules. which is feared because the examination carried out is not optimal so that it is not detected thoroughly. because it was feared that the sampling was wrong and indeed the examination was not optimal, it could happen. We can understand because the inspection tool is quite expensive so it is really indicated that the test was carried out. if this happens it may not reflect the maximum examination.

[franky1]

badecker. you make s stupid comment and i link it. but just because i dont re-link when you repeat the comment a few weeks later doesnt suddenly mean your no longer debunked

the links i gave you include all the info you need. i know you cant understand the links i reference. but thats because when you ask for actual science references you will get actual science references. thus you hen have to learn actual science to then understand it

so while arguing with yourself that you request the actual science. and then argue with yourself that you cant understand the science. maybe you have to choose one of 3 options

1. realise you dont understand science and give up
2. learn the actual science so you can understand what you thought you asked for
3.(read below)

heck ill make it simple. if you find a word or a method or a technology or a process mentioned in a link. google it. study it and learn it

i do sometimes respond with a dumbed down version to help you learn. but instead of learning it. you then pretend that its just dumbed down stuff and not the science..
thus again avoiding learning and just finding excuses to be ignorant.

so
3. stop asking for info if your not willing to read, learn, understand the info.
if you dont want to learn it dont ask for it, infact just dont bother getting involved in conversations you have no desire to learn something about

[franky1]

meanwhile.. africa

the case numbers are low in africa. not due to then being immortal. but because in many african countries people live hours away from a hospital so would not travel to a city to get tested. instead because they had dealt with many diseases before. they just learn to stay home. and try to suffer through it and let it pass or let themselves pass away.

however developed countries have better more local healthcare thats easy access and doesnt require upfront costs. so they happily go do doctors to get checked out

i know badecker is in america and very reluctant to waste fuel to go see a doctor. he would prefer to just suffer in silence and hope he gets over it, then pretend he never had it. maybe he may not have the money or the ability to pay any medical bill. and guess what... the same is said for african countries

[BADecker]

meanwhile.. africa

the case numbers are low in africa. not due to then being immortal. but because in many african countries people live hours away from a hospital so would not travel to a city to get tested. instead because they had dealt with many diseases before. they just learn to stay home. and try to suffer through it and let it pass or let themselves pass away.

however developed countries have better more local healthcare thats easy access and doesnt require upfront costs. so they happily go do doctors to get checked out

i know badecker is in america and very reluctant to waste fuel to go see a doctor. he would prefer to just suffer in silence and hope he gets over it, then pretend he never had it. maybe he may not have the money or the ability to pay any medical bill. and guess what... the same is said for african countries

Cases? LOL!

Go get tested. Then, even if the bunch of you are walking around happy with no symptoms, Covid rises. Why? Because the PCR test is designed to make Covid-positive people out of all of us.

Cases aren't all that important. Deaths are. And the deaths in Africa are way down because of their hydroxychloroquine (HCQ) protection. They don't care about cases, especially lying, PCR cases. Covid isn't bothering them.

Now if all the rest of the nations got on the HCQ bandwagon, the cases could go to the roof without anyone being sick, to speak of.

What's the matter franky1? You finally had to get on the cases bandwagon, just so you could find some way to keep the pandemic going... just like many of the governments of the world. It's the only way, so keep on trying.

[franky1]

to be classed as a covid death, you have to be diagnosed with covid and then die of the symptoms

many people in many villages die. but because they didnt travel to the distance city to get tested or have their death notified...they are just an unregistered death.

it doesnt mean no ones dying. it means they are not recorded
the same issue was with ebola too. many tribes/villages just burried the dead without informing hospitals

and for the area's where there are alot of people in city area's or close enough to medical centres. the cases are still the same average percentage of cases positive and deaths caused by.

so maybe you should learn the context of the info you read and not just assume that because your an idiot you can just make things up to suit your mood

[BADecker]

to be classed as a covid death, you have to be diagnosed with covid and then die of the symptoms

many people in many villages die. but because they didnt travel to the distance city to get tested or have their death notified...they are just an unregistered death.

it doesnt mean no ones dying. it means they are not recorded
the same issue was with ebola too. many tribes/villages just burried the dead without informing hospitals

and for the area's where there are alot of people in city area's or close enough to medical centres. the cases are still the same average percentage of cases positive and deaths caused by.

so maybe you should learn the context of the info you read and not just assume that because your an idiot you can just make things up to suit your mood

LOL!

You missed all the news about the people that weren't even tested, yet were classified as Covid deaths? Like the people who died of all kinds of, what's the word, comorbidities including car accidents? You are getting more hilarious by the minute? To say nothing about all the people who died more than once because they were tested more than once. Lol.

[Bitcoinsummoner]

to be classed as a covid death, you have to be diagnosed with covid and then die of the symptoms

many people in many villages die. but because they didnt travel to the distance city to get tested or have their death notified...they are just an unregistered death.

it doesnt mean no ones dying. it means they are not recorded

When Covid19 spread over the world a lot of people lost their lives who had not checked up either they affected by Covid19 or not. And also a lot of death people who lost their lives with the symptoms of corona virus but didn't check also non recorded death by corona virus. So, real number of death by corona is more than recorded number of death by corona. On the contrary many people may death by corona but they are affected with other disease too, and they may died for those disease but as they were affected by corona the death body was recorded as death by corona virus. SO many recorded death by corona is not real death by corona.

[Tash]

Someone with perfect 20/20 vision can see it all.

Most look at it with a 19/19 vision

[franky1]

oh tash your either trolling or your getting as dumb as badecker

your trying to compare a spiky dog toy vs a golf ball using false measurements/definitions
here. some better more realistic info:
an exosome is under 100nm covid-19 virus is over 100nm
an ENDOSOME is 500nm  and covid-19 virus is never 500nm

an exosome is not an endosome.. just like a parent is not the child
an endosome carries multiple exosomes but is not an exosome itself

the physical shape although can be stupidly described as ball.. proper close up description is more like spiky dog ball(covid) vs golfball(exosome)

they have different purposes and have different features

[BADecker]

^^^ When you look at the electron microscope pictures of the so-called Covid virus, you can easily see that each virus is slightly different than all the others. So, it is much easier for the artists to make drawings of the virus, rather than simply trying to chop up an EM photo. Besides, they are going to color Covid, anyway. So, might as well draw a picture and color it right as it is being drawn, right?... because the EM pictures are all black and white and grey.

Some of the first drawn pictures of Covid were round balls. These balls had little spikes in them, just like the virus does.




One of the favorite games that wealthy people play is golf. And that is the point. The wealthy want to keep on playing golf. So what better representation of Covid than the world surrounded by golf courses? And what better representation of golf courses than little golf tees?

So, there you have it. This is what is behind the whole Covid Spamdemic. The wealth want to remain wealthy so that they can keep on playing golf. They probably designed the Covid virus just like it is, so that they could make the world golf drawings. They are using their golf representation to spread the Covid Spamdemic around the world to make money off the useless/dangerous vaccines, and whatever else they can use to unscrew money out of the people.

[Tash]

How do you think will COVID-19 go away after some time?

SARS-CoV was in 2003, nobody anywhere in the world has been ill from it since 2004
SARS-Cov-2 well first it needs isolating for it to even exist from a scientific view point. Has not happend so far (most likely never will)

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5220206.msg53898245#msg53898245

[franky1]

SARS-Cov-2 well first it needs isolating for it to even exist from a scientific view point. Has not happend so far (most likely never will)

it has been isolated. you are reading conspiracy myths from january.
please realise it is now october
you are 10 months out of date

[BADecker]

SARS-Cov-2 well first it needs isolating for it to even exist from a scientific view point. Has not happend so far (most likely never will)

it has been isolated. you are reading conspiracy myths from january.
please realise it is now october
you are 10 months out of date

Perhaps it has been isolated. I mean, there are maybe hundreds of researchers who have the ability to isolate. But here is the thing about it all. YOU don't KNOW that it has been isolated, right? After all, you can't point to the isolation part in any report, copy and paste it into this forum, and explain how it is complete enough to prove there was no contamination during the isolation process.

If you think it has been isolated, you think this because you heard somebody else say it, or you read that somebody else said it in some paperwork. But you have never seen the proof yourself - not that this matters - because you wouldn't understand if the proof was really proof or if it really showed uncontaminated isolation. Not even if it jumped right up and bit you in the eyeball.

Here is what you could do if you really believed, and wanted to show us, that it was isolated. You could get somebody into the forum to explain how they did the isolation in a proper way that proves there is no contamination. You know, somebody who has credentials, and a website, and an office with an address, and a phone number.

Dr. Andrew Kaufman - https://www.andrewkaufmanmd.com/ - would love to see the isolation of it where it was done properly. He doesn't want to keep on showing everybody how the original tests were faulty, especially if there are some viable tests properly done somewhere.

So, thank you in advance for showing us all some correctly done isolation tests.



EDIT: As a special favor to me, please PM me with the link to your forum post that shows this isolation stuff you have isolated somewhere, and then posted in the forum. I don't read all the posts that everybody puts up, but I would like to see it so that I can ask Dr. Kaufman if it is any good or not. Thanks.

[Dorodha]

The exact tests for the corona virus haven't yet worked countries round the world try to form vaccines. it's not a prediction but a mathematical calculation. Public health experts say the spread of the disease might be reduced for this everyone should avoid public gatherings and will not leave the house without necessity. during this way people need to maintain social distance from one another therein case it's prevalence will increase.

[yohananaomi]

The exact tests for the corona virus haven't yet worked countries round the world try to form vaccines. it's not a prediction but a mathematical calculation. Public health experts say the spread of the disease might be reduced for this everyone should avoid public gatherings and will not leave the house without necessity. during this way people need to maintain social distance from one another therein case it's prevalence will increase.

As long as vaccines and drugs have not been found with certainty, of course what you say is the best solution at this time that can be done. avoiding large crowds of people and maintaining a distance according to the rules are very reliable and diligent in washing hands when after handling something outside the house. if there are no important needs, it is not advisable to leave the house, it is better to stay at home. If this is done correctly, there will definitely be an increase in the decline in those infected, but all return to the officers who supervise them must also be able to carry out full education.

[franky1]

badecker in this very topic i pointed it out many times.
your kaufman link is not a rebuttal but a sign of a guy that has outdated info
he has been debunked many times

i know you suffer from memory problems and forgot you got debunked. but waiting 2 weeks and then rehashing your stupidity will not suddenly make you right.

you got debunked. accept it and move onto something new.
just get over it
you seen the report.. you accepted the report. but then you cried about it not passing the koch to show that its the 'dangerous isolate'.. i proved it did. heck there were even studies, notes and images of the animals involve and their results
then you cried it didnt pass the rivers. i proved it did and i also preempted your ploy by also showing it passed the bell, before you had chance to meander into that.
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so just accept it. you got debunked. heck i even debunked your weird criteria that the test had to involve centrifuge which you repetidly thought it didnt.. but yea i proved you wrong again

[franky1]

The exact tests for the corona virus haven't yet worked countries round the world try to form vaccines. it's not a prediction but a mathematical calculation.

of course its maths.
its not a psychic. person A will be deathly sick person B will be fine crystal ball prediction. its based on maths
the further you are for the least time = less risk, less viral load inhaled=less chance of being deathly sick
its simple logic and yes logic is maths
very fit and healthy doctors and nurses that had no underlying issues who HAD TO be in close proximity to sick people ended up as being patients themselves with covid

the virus is not like a random mosquito that has its own flight plan and decides who to attack. the virus is based on proximity and viral load count. and many other factors such as time. so it is possible to know the risks. is possible to calculate the risks and possible to give guidance on what is low and what is high risk activity

[BADecker]

badecker in this very topic i pointed it out many times.
your kaufman link is not a rebuttal but a sign of a guy that has outdated info
he has been debunked many times

You are so funny, franky1. You suggest that Dr. Kaufman has outdated material. But you can't show why. And you don't show any "indated" material that outdates Dr. Kaufman's material.

Perhaps you will come up with something solid and valid... sometime. Other than that, all we have from Dr. Kaufman is clear explanations and proof. All we get from almost everything you say is babbly words.

Words are easy. Come on franky1. Show us the real proof. I don't mean that you don't necessarily have proof. But since you can't seem to explain your proof, and show us what and where your proof is, all we have is your words.

The evidence points more and more in the direction of the idea that you are a paid troll.