Coronavirus Outbreak

[TwitchySeal]

Do you have a source for this?

He's basically just quoting a Mike Adams article on NewsTarget.com.  Mike adams is a pseudo science, conspiracy theorist, fake news guy that also owns Natural.news, Trump.news and a bunch of other similar sites.

The gist of the article is that the only reason so many people are dying is because they are all being treated for the wrong thing, and the 100% confirmed cure is....injecting bleach.

So it turns out covid-19 is not a acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient.Inflammation and the ticking (clotting) of Blood prevents it from carrying oxygen and the patient eventually die of asphyxiation.
Who was responsible for not allowing autopsys at beginning, WHO?

Direct quotes from this article: BREAKING: Researchers claim 100 percent cure rate vs. covid-19 in 100+ patient trial conducted in Ecuador, using intravenous chlorine dioxide


To simplify these findings, covid-19 is not acute viral pneumonia impacting the respiratory system but rather an inflammation-based immunological response that leads to thrombosis (clotting in the lungs) which kills the patient. The use of ventilators only makes the problem worse, which is why previous observational studies have found that 88% of patients put on ventilators end up dying. They are dying because the ventilator treatment is the wrong treatment.

Covid-19 isn’t an Acute Respiratory Disease (ARD), it turns out. Rather, it often presents as an inflammation and blood clotting condition (see The Lancet research, below) which causes the blood to be unable to carry oxygen, resulting in patient hypoxia and eventual asphyxiation.

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[franky1]

covid doesnt just trigger the immuno response.
or else it would just be cough and fever and sneezing.
coughing, fever, sneezing. does not cause hypoxia

the cytokine storm is from cells bursting open due to the virus replication. not a immuno response

covid causes more damage such as pneumonia and ards and hypoxia.and once in the blood stream blood clots, and kidney damage and multiple other things.
people are also having strokes and heart attacks and having blood circulation stop in their limbs due to clots.

and its why even in december-january they knew it was not just a common flu. and why by december 30th once they knew the trigger was a new coroner virus. (because of ACTUAL tests and ACTUAL diagnoses) they reported such

but atleast these faux media idiots are now atleast babystepping into admitting it causes more symptoms than just the flu

[fillippone]

The other day we read on the the news about the Moderna, and it seemed that the next day he could be in the bought pharmacy, obviously the situation is different.
Here's a good recap of the main tests being studied all over the world:

Coronavirus vaccine current update: Oxford vaccine failure to Moderna's favorable results, here is the latest status of COVID-19 vaccines and drugs

The article shows that there are about a hundred vaccines in the various development steps, with an expected time of arrival on the market still quite long.
Do you guys know any other comprehensive lists?

For now, social distancing remains the most effective form of prevention.

[tvbcof]

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the cytokine storm is from cells bursting open due to the virus replication. not a immuno response
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Not exactly.  The damage is done more by an over-reaction of the immune system.  The systemic reaction ends up doing great damage to one's own body, and sometimes ends in the death of the person.  It doesn't happen very much in non-vaxxed people who've not had their immune system's 'tweaked' with adjuvants and what-not.

What they found when the tried to make coronavirus vaccines is that rather than just creating antibodies which arrest future infections as is the normal case, the person ends up having an over-reaction to the next 're-challenge' and it triggers a cytokine storm.  A lot of lab animals died so they stopped research (or did they?)

'Works' in vaccine-land these days simply means that the victim develops antibodies.  To that extent the coronavirus vaccine of a decade ago did 'work'.  It just killed the patient instead of saving them when the infection came around.

A work-around for the vaccine makers which could be effective in this 'warp-speed' scenerio is to just neglect the part of the testing where they actually see if an infection makes the person have a cytokine storm.  If, in a year or two people who got the vaccine start dropping like flies they can just say 'oops, our bad'.  And since they have full legal liability protection it won't impact their bottom line.

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Another thing to note is that the standard flu vaccine, like almost all other vaccines, inevitably has a ton of other virus material because it is just to hard to filter out all the other viruses which came along for the ride when they mashed up the dog brains or human fetal cells or whatever the growth medium happened to be.  It is possible that people who got certain batches of flu vaccines prior ended up being hyper-sensitized to the SARS-cov-2 coronavirus which came along years later.

If that is the case in actuality, and it is a factor in the different impacts among different populations, proper epidemiological studies would show it.  This means that there is no way in hell that such studies will ever be done.

[franky1]

by the way Mr. Anti-Vaxxer
in the 1960's they had polio vaccines using wild monkey kidneys which also contained other things.
why.. because they couldnt wait to grow clean monkeys so just grabbed wild ones, already grown.

but guess what.. science improved over 60 years after that.
they no longer just grab wild monkeys and force them in a cage and then do things to them.
instead they actually breed their own clean mice.
yep. alot has changed in the last 60 years. seems your scripts have not

yep no wild infections in new breeds of mice.
making a good clean control group for use to study on.

so have fun with your 60yo out dated crap about 'lots of viruses'
heck even badecker is more upto date by realising that things like the koch priniciples actually refine processes enough to actually get the individual virus
other things like petri dish growth technologies also help.

but hey seems you have been the most out of date conspiracy idiot out of the lot

as for the cytokine storm where you think its just an over excretion.. sorry its not.
actual biopsies scans and tests have been done. its due to cell damage.
oh and if you think its just a immuno response.. then explain the Hemoptysis (coughing up blood) that comes with it.

yep hospitals actually do do tests. scans. biopsies and autopsies

and have been doing so all along

[PavelMed]

so you think only 56 people DIED in the entire world on march 9th 2020

oh. wait.. reported that on worldometer 8thM had 3827 and 9thM had 4025 deaths.. thats 198 a day
and just to take the next day
oh. and reported that on worldometer 9thM had 4025 and 10thM had 4296 deaths.. thats 271 a day
oh. and reported that on worldometer 10thM had 4296 and 9thM had 4628 deaths.. thats 231 a day
thats over 200 average on a 3 day average

in more recent news UK alone has had over 250 deaths in a day.. just UK

but your kind ofright. YOUR other news (your post) is a nothing burger. as its not even accurate

maybe if you were wanting to put it into a scale of harm to average people..
how about that there are over 300k births each day, but only now a few thousands deaths

in short a couple has more chance of getting pregnant than dying
best advice.. to avoid both, stay 2 metres apart.. yep social distancing prevents pregnancy

The population of Great Britain is 66.65 million people. And you are talking about as many as 256 people.
Do you feel that these are disparate figures?
One in five in the world dies of AIDS. Where is the panic and graphics? Why are they silent about this, and do not give out barrier contraceptives?

[TwitchySeal]

The population of Great Britain is 66.65 million people. And you are talking about as many as 256 people.
Do you feel that these are disparate figures?
One in five in the world dies of AIDS. Where is the panic and graphics? Why are they silent about this, and do not give out barrier contraceptives?

Comparisons like this are stupid and irrelevant, but you really fucked this one up and I can't help myself.

Top 2 are UK covid deaths and cases by day.
Bottom is UK aids by year.

[Tash]

Is the UK SARS-CoV-2 virus a member of the union and negotiated a 2-day resting period of its dying members?

[TwitchySeal]

Is the UK SARS-CoV-2 virus a member of the union and negotiated a 2-day resting period of its dying members?

No, but the people reporting the deaths probably are.  Use your brain.

[franky1]

The other day we read on the the news about the Moderna, and it seemed that the next day he could be in the bought pharmacy, obviously the situation is different.
Here's a good recap of the main tests being studied all over the world:

Coronavirus vaccine current update: Oxford vaccine failure to Moderna's favorable results, here is the latest status of COVID-19 vaccines and drugs

The article shows that there are about a hundred vaccines in the various development steps, with an expected time of arrival on the market still quite long.
Do you guys know any other comprehensive lists?

For now, social distancing remains the most effective form of prevention.

actually the oxford vaccine did pass the test. and is in human trials
but seems like indian media dont want indians to think that brits are ahead of america

gotta laugh though. people dont do their research
oxford showed all the monkeys didnt get pneumonia nor suffer any negative immune responses diseases from the vaccine.
in other words it helped create the antibodies. without making them sick

people were then trialed(over 1000) in april
moderna say they are planing on a large human trial in june....

[Tash]

Is the UK SARS-CoV-2 virus a member of the union and negotiated a 2-day resting period of its dying members?

No, but the people reporting the deaths probably are.  Use your brain.

You mean only in the UK, rest of the world works different. In your theory monday would be the highest number reported, not the lowest. Use your brain or is it oxygen starved?

[TwitchySeal]

Is the UK SARS-CoV-2 virus a member of the union and negotiated a 2-day resting period of its dying members?

No, but the people reporting the deaths probably are.  Use your brain.

You mean only in the UK, rest of the world works different. In your theory monday would be the highest number reported, not the lowest. Use your brain or is it oxygen starved?

No.  Other countries have a weekly patterns also.
For the US, Tuesdays are almost always the highest and Sundays the lowest.



I don't know exactly how each system runs, but it really only takes a basic understanding of bureaucracy and what a 'work week' is to realize why the data looks like that.

Did you feel like a super-sleuth shading that pattern in the UK chart?

 

[BADecker]

Is the UK SARS-CoV-2 virus a member of the union and negotiated a 2-day resting period of its dying members?

No, but the people reporting the deaths probably are.  Use your brain.

You mean only in the UK, rest of the world works different. In your theory monday would be the highest number reported, not the lowest. Use your brain or is it oxygen starved?

No.  Other countries have a weekly patterns also.
For the US, Tuesdays are almost always the highest and Sundays the lowest.



I don't know exactly how each system runs, but it really only takes a basic understanding of bureaucracy and what a 'work week' is to realize why the data looks like that.

Did you feel like a super-sleuth shading that pattern in the UK chart?

 

Got any proof that the numbers are truth?     

[TwitchySeal]

Got any proof that the numbers are truth?     

I've been traveling the world counting bodies.  But I lost my phone with all the pictures on it, so no.

[franky1]

You mean only in the UK, rest of the world works different. In your theory monday would be the highest number reported, not the lowest. Use your brain or is it oxygen starved?

what you actually find. is that even in america they have delays too.
the initial daily numbers are not the full numbers. because some places have delayed reporting.

heck even CDC provisional numbers say its upto 2-4 weeks delayed
when there is a truly clear fuly tested and scanned and diagnosed death. easy..
but when its more complex and when the morgues are over run it takes longer.

so what you think might be near 100k deaths due to covid in usa.. is actually much higher.

..
in the UK the hospital numbers are quite high percentage accurate reporting daily. but its the stuff like people dying in residential homes that take the most time and cause the most delay in reporting.
and its not all registered on a monday. but they do hope to catch up on all delays before the following saturday to avoid having double piles of backdated stuff the week after that. causing more instability of number reporting.

UK have been clear about this.
here is one example:
"The figures were collated between 5pm on 19 May and 5pm on 20 May, but due to the need to inform relatives and authenticate reports, many of the deaths occurred earlier than this period. It is also very likely that some deaths which did occur during these 24 hours — and before — have not yet been recorded, normally for the same reasons.

The figures do not include those who have died from the virus outside of hospital, nor those where covid-19 has not been specifically recorded as a cause.

Due to late reporting, hospital deaths data is only considered robust until 15 May."


 which is why they dont look at daily numbers as is. but concentrate on the 7 day average. to see the impact
compared to previous weeks.

once they add in the numbers from the other deaths in other settings(home/residential care).



message to certain idiot
the stats are underselling the deaths. they would rather put low numbers they are sure of first.  and then become more accurate later by adding more when they have been authenticated and confirmed. .. meaning they dont just throw in as much as they can first.

here it is laid out for you
the top right. the blue line is the underselling numbers published publicly. where numbers are confirmed. in blue
however the ONS that double checks and authenticates later shows a new number for that same week. much higher.

what you need to realise is that the numbers are not exaggerated higher then usual. but more lower in the initial reports because they prefer to have less but confirmed.. and not more but unconfirmed

you will realise that i told you this months ago in another topic.
its not new news.
hospitals are not inflating numbers.
have a nice day

[BADecker]

Untruths are lies, even when presented by people with the best of intentions, and by people who innocently believe they are telling the truth when they tell their untruth.

The subtle charts above don't have anything to do with what people died from.

[TwitchySeal]

The subtle charts above don't have anything to do with what people died from.

Got any proof that the charts don't have anything to do with what people died from?

 

[Tash]

Lots of places re-ajust numbers down. UK does not even know how many cases it has, all a farce.
https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2020/05/16/colorado-changes-how-coronavirus-deaths-state-counted/5198485002/


Extended lockdowns could cause 'irreparable damage': Dr Fauci
https://youtu.be/As4o3SX_90o

Interresting week on the way..

[Tash]

Thread is dying, lets do something about
Preexisting cell-mediated immunity to covid19 due to common cold infection.
https://twitter.com/andrewbostom/status/1264388357632778240?s=20

https://www.cell.com/action/showPdf?pii=S0092-8674%2820%2930610-3

[BADecker]

The pandemic might be collapsing freedoms on every side, but they were old freedoms. These old freedoms weren't really as free as people thought, freedom, itself, having been eroded over the years by the high, wealthy elite continually trying to make slaves of everyone. Seems that while freedom is being taken away by the system, new kinds of powerful freedom are destroying the system that is trying to destroy them.

Check the website for important links.


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