Coronavirus Outbreak

[tvbcof]

Wrong again Bob.  The PCR tests, in they way they are mis-used for 'covid-19' against the complaints of the developer, simply means that there was a tiny trace of a genomic sequence in the initial sample, or that the cycles were so high that a false positive occurred.  ...then of course there was the story about the swabs being contaminated with the SARS-cov-2 itself...

Are you saying that Fausti and the rest of the Gods of science are going to be able to design a vaccine which instigates the production of antibodies for 'covid-19', but they cannot even tell what such an antibody looks or act like enough to even have a test for it!?!

1. the PCR test has nothing to do with swabs.

https://www.gloshospitals.nhs.uk/our-services/services-we-offer/pathology/tests-and-investigations/respiratory-virus-pcr-swabs/

First link on Google.  Franky1-n-beans is a loser.

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PCR is basically the bit in the middle as you refer to as the 'cycling'
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Don't let Franky1's blather make things more complicated than they are.

In essence, PCR takes a puzzle-piece called a 'primer' which matches only against a very specific genetic sequence.  Then it 'cycles' so each little bit which matches is doubled.  Cycles again, doubles again.  Exponential growth.  You can grow a tiny fragment of DNA into enough to detect in this way.  But it tells nothing about how much there was to start with or where it came from.

Long story short, PCR is good for distinguishing a species of microbe.  It is not the tool for the job of 'diagnosing covid-19'.  Never was and never will be.  A papaya can come up positive for 'covid-19' the way they are doing RT-PCR even when a scientist or lab tech is trying to get it right.  When they are ordered to find the fruit positive they can do it ever time by adding a few cycles.

2. a vaccine is not an antibody.
they dont need to play around with recognising a certain antibody 'puzele piece' specific to covid
a vaccine uses the VIRUS(not antibody) that has been made impotent to replication while still having the unique identifiers. this then lets your bodies own antibodies see it and deal with it without harm

At least get things partially right.  'dumb it down' doesn't mean to blow the science completely.  The theory of operation of the shiny new RNA and DNA 'vaccines' are that they re-program your cells to produce parts of the virus, then rely on your immune system to create antibodies against the virus parts that your cells just made.  No wonder they want to test it out first on the Brownies down South.

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I chose my words carefully, but you straw-man'd things anyway of course.  And you dodged the question.

They apparently cannot come up with a way to tell the difference between an antibody for covid-19 and some other coronavirus.  The vaccine they are already pumping into people is supposed to result in antibodies for 'covid-19'.  How is it that they can develop a vaccine to induce antibodies but they cannot even figure out enough about the desired antibodies to test for them?

Answer is, or course, that they cannot.  Again, the so-called 'vaccine' they are trying to fast track has nothing to do with 'covid-19' if there is even such a thing to begin with.  The trouble they are having even testing for it lends strength to the idea that it is 100% fictional.

In fact it is quite common for antibody tests to be quite specific to the antibody they are testing for.  That's actually kind of the point.  SARS-cov-2 was supposed to have these 'spike protien' antigens and such.  The antibodies produced for them should express a detectrable characteristic.

It kind of sounds like you are in fact arguing what we've been saying all along:  'SARS-cov-2' coronavirus is the common cold.  Cannot even tell them apart.  That would match with the numbers which are now, in July, a matter of observation (rather than computer model predictions) showing that this thing is just about exactly as lethal as the common cold.  And it also matches the observations coming in that having had the common cold in the past few years makes a lot of people completely immune to the dreaded Kobe Wirus.

[BADecker]

^^^ You say it so good. F-1 can't say it this good. He doesn't know enough grammar.

[tvbcof]

^^^ You say it so good. F-1 can't say it this good. He doesn't know enough grammar.

It's a lot easier to argue a point when you are on the right side of the science.

Franky1 can probably use near perfect grammar and punctuation.  He chooses not to, and he chooses to write voluminous screeds which are not even relevant to the discussion because his whole goal is to confuse and obfuscate.  Why, exactly, he wishes to do this is a bit of a mystery, but at the end of the day who gives an actual fuck?

[elisabetheva]

Coronavirus is spreading again around the Balkans.
Serbia has a huge problem with the virus as I can read from the news and Belgrade the capital city of Serbia is now under lockdown.
It seems that we are going to have problems with the virus till the end of the year for sure.

will continue to happen like this repeatedly because now what is done is only to avoid contracting the corona pandemic to the healthy. there is no treatment that can immediately solve the main problem of corona pandemic transmission.
we will not know how long this will end because the handling is not until it is clean.

drugs and vaccines that can immediately eliminate corona pandemic transmission. as long as the drug and vaccine have not been created, transmission will continue to occur which will not stop.
especially now that the more frightening is the sick without any symptoms at all and this is very vulnerable to transmit to the family at home and those who have direct contact with it.
this will add to the chain of transmission which is increasingly out of control, and if a rapid test is conducted on all citizens it is clearly not possible.

now need cooperation among all so that transmission does not continue to develop by following the correct health protocol.
- wear a mask while outside the home for everyone.
- Always wash your hands with soap and do not hold around the face before properly washing hands.
- after going out of the house should immediately take a shower and clean all that is used when outside the home.
- keep a safe distance of at least 1.5 meters when outside the home.
with all concerned with health protocols can at least reduce transmission.

[BADecker]

Coronavirus is spreading again around the Balkans.
Serbia has a huge problem with the virus as I can read from the news and Belgrade the capital city of Serbia is now under lockdown.
It seems that we are going to have problems with the virus till the end of the year for sure.

will continue to happen like this repeatedly because now what is done is only to avoid contracting the corona pandemic to the healthy. there is no treatment that can immediately solve the main problem of corona pandemic transmission.
we will not know how long this will end because the handling is not until it is clean.

drugs and vaccines that can immediately eliminate corona pandemic transmission. as long as the drug and vaccine have not been created, transmission will continue to occur which will not stop.
especially now that the more frightening is the sick without any symptoms at all and this is very vulnerable to transmit to the family at home and those who have direct contact with it.
this will add to the chain of transmission which is increasingly out of control, and if a rapid test is conducted on all citizens it is clearly not possible.

now need cooperation among all so that transmission does not continue to develop by following the correct health protocol.
- wear a mask while outside the home for everyone.
- Always wash your hands with soap and do not hold around the face before properly washing hands.
- after going out of the house should immediately take a shower and clean all that is used when outside the home.
- keep a safe distance of at least 1.5 meters when outside the home.
with all concerned with health protocols can at least reduce transmission.

^^^ But only if you are giggling, laughing, and having fun doing it.

When we were kids, we played house. The parents even bought us a play stove so we could play-cook on it. Then we grew up and did it for real while raising a family.

It's fun remembering playing house. Now we get to play pandemic. The most important part is, when you get done playing, take off the masks, and kiss and hug like normal... so that you get herd immunity, like we all got herd immunity for the last thousands of years.

[suchmoon]

Hey antimaskers... your idol caved in, time for you to get on with the program too.

[Tash]

Hey antimaskers... your idol caved in, time for you to get on with the program too.

I have no idol, this is Bitcointalk everyone is there one master.
If someone intends to bring a sickness upon themselves, let him be. The body is made to exhale CO₂ to 100% as it it poisonous, partly re-inhaling leads to respiratory acidosis

[suchmoon]

If someone intends to bring a sickness upon themselves, let him be. The body is made to exhale CO₂ to 100% as it it poisonous, partly re-inhaling leads to respiratory acidosis

Well, that sucks, poor Trump just can't win, can he? Either coronavirus, or CO2 (clearly AOC conspiracy), or Biden, or KFC food will get him.

[Hueristic]

Hey antimaskers... your idol caved in, time for you to get on with the program too.

[TECSHARE]

Hey antimaskers... your idol caved in, time for you to get on with the program too.

Thanks for glaring proof you don't actually care about protecting anyone's health and just use masks as a form of enforcing group think conformity, political antagonism, and virtue signaling. If you did, you wouldn't be mocking it. Honk on clowns.

[Tash]

Next time he should consider something more serious.

[tvbcof]

Hey antimaskers... your idol caved in, time for you to get on with the program too.

Mask, bitch.  Wear it.  Donald Trump just found out who his Daddy is:

[BADecker]

Hey antimaskers... your idol caved in, time for you to get on with the program too.

Mask, bitch.  Wear it.  Donald Trump just found out who his Daddy is:

It's all a political ploy.     

[Hueristic]

Oh no where forever will I get my treatments now?

Florida men charged with selling bleach as COVID-19 cure, threatening “a Waco”

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/florida-men-charged-with-selling-bleach-as-covid-19-cure-threatening-a-waco/

[BADecker]

Oh no where forever will I get my treatments now?

Florida men charged with selling bleach as COVID-19 cure, threatening “a Waco”

https://arstechnica.com/science/2020/07/florida-men-charged-with-selling-bleach-as-covid-19-cure-threatening-a-waco/

These guys were registered as a church. They should be pressing 1st Amendment violation charges against a whole bunch of people who broke into their church, and suing them for both, money and an apology.

[franky1]

registering as a church.. selling chemicals.
and badecker still cant see the cult like behaviour

anyway
to address tvbcof's silly little post ages ago
yes you can buy swabs. but did you know you can PCR sample any fluid from any source. whether it a pipette, syringe, testtube or beaker.
yep when they do bronchial lavage(flush in then suck out fluid from the lungs to get sample of whats inside the lung itself. its put into a vial. (no swabs needed)


yep PCR is not limited to covid19 multiplication nor only swab input
PCR just multiplies whatever it has been given a sample of
and here is the thing. depending on what chemical dilute is put into the sample before its put into the pcr machine. will get more different thing being multiplied(cycled)
so again its not about the pcr .. its about the input sample and particular chemical mix before.. and then when testing what is found after is depending on the chemicals after.

its like tvbcof is trying to say a microwave oven is the mechanism for making hot soup.
im trying to explain no the water/bowl/broth/vegetables and ingredient are the important part. and the microwave just increases the temperature.

and tvbcof wants to just say he found a quote from the microwave manufacturer that microwaves purpose never is nor never was to MAKE soup

[Gyfts]

California announced that they're essentially shutting down again. Gavin Newsom announced new guidelines and listed out the facilities that needed to be closed including bars, restaurants, gyms, ect.

https://twitter.com/GavinNewsom/status/1282753656983449600

California's seven day average of deaths is hovering about 80-90 deaths per day with 30 people dying yesterday.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/california-coronavirus-cases.html

Texas is still relatively open so it'll be a good way to compare if restrictive measures actually work or if you can mitigate coronavirus without having to shut down businesses. Some large Texas counties have implemented mandatory mask policies as well.

[BADecker]

registering as a church.. selling chemicals.
and badecker still cant see the cult like behaviour

I realize it might be hard for somebody like you to understand, but churches are completely allowed to sell products to their members, especially when those products are part of their religion.

Without seeing the indictment(s), it's difficult to know if it really was the church that was attacked by government, and what whoever was attacked was attacked for.

Since it is your interpretation that suggests that their sales were cult-like behavior, do you have better documentation showing what the indictment really was? After all, somebody might call modern medicine cult-like behavior.

One point is, you can buy sodium chlorite and an activator acid from any number of sites on the Internet. And you can get chlorine dioxide from Dupont. So, there has to be more to it than simply selling products to their members.

[Tash]

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, after many studies, have come to this conclusion: Wearing masks will not reduce SARS-CoV-2.
Does anyone wear them?
https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

[BADecker]

The Association of American Physicians and Surgeons, after many studies, have come to this conclusion: Wearing masks will not reduce SARS-CoV-2.
Does anyone wear them?
https://aapsonline.org/mask-facts/

I was thinking of making a one-layer-thick fiberglass window screen mask,