Coronavirus Outbreak

[Tash]

Coronavirus Outbreak

Yeh, which of the 7 in existence is talked about here?

Human Coronavirus    229E    common cold
Human Coronavirus    OC43   common cold
Human Coronavirus    NL63   was identified in late 2004 in a seven-month-old child with bronchiolitis in the Netherlands
Human Coronavirus    HKU1   was discovered in January 2005 in two patients in Hong Kong
Human Coronavirus    MERS-CoV Middle East Respiratory Syndrome first reported in Saudi Arabia in 2012
Human Coronavirus    SARS-CoV Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome 2002-2003. Since 2004, no known cases of SARS-CoV infection reported anywhere.
Human Coronavirus    SARS-CoV-2

[Gyfts]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.11.20171843v2

We found that recovered individuals developed SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG antibody and neutralizing plasma, as well as virus-specific memory B and T cells that not only persisted, but in some cases increased numerically over three months following symptom onset. Furthermore, the SARS-CoV-2-specific memory lymphocytes exhibited characteristics associated with potent antiviral immunity: memory T cells secreted IFN-γ and expanded upon antigen re-encounter, while memory B cells expressed receptors capable of neutralizing virus when expressed as antibodies. These findings demonstrate that mild COVID-19 elicits memory lymphocytes that persist and display functional hallmarks associated with antiviral protective immunity.

Promising news for a vaccine. New study basically suggests you retain antibody immunity after contracting the virus even if you only experienced mild symptoms. You retain these antibodies for an extended period (multiple months is what the study claims).

[tvbcof]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.11.20171843v2

We found that recovered individuals developed SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG antibody and neutralizing plasma, as well as virus-specific memory B and T cells that not only persisted, but in some cases increased numerically over three months following symptom onset. Furthermore, the SARS-CoV-2-specific memory lymphocytes exhibited characteristics associated with potent antiviral immunity: memory T cells secreted IFN-γ and expanded upon antigen re-encounter, while memory B cells expressed receptors capable of neutralizing virus when expressed as antibodies. These findings demonstrate that mild COVID-19 elicits memory lymphocytes that persist and display functional hallmarks associated with antiviral protective immunity.

Promising news for a vaccine. New study basically suggests you retain antibody immunity after contracting the virus even if you only experienced mild symptoms. You retain these antibodies for an extended period (multiple months is what the study claims).

Actually, no.  It's terrible news.  No vaccine works on the innate immune system and the technology ignores the fact that the system even exists.

Even the ultra-modern mRNA vaccines work by trying to result in as many antibodies as needed (to reach an arbitrarily government set value required for licensing as 'effective' since finding out if they actually stop a person from getting a disease would be 'unethical'.)  The innate immune system (T-cells) are really fucking things up for the vax makers.  Periodic 'boosters' are quickly not working whatsoever in humans who seem to have a notably different immune system in this regard compared to laboratory animals when it comes to dealing with coronavirus specifically.  The mRNA designers are having add things to STOP the innate immune system from working [since it works against the vaccine itself] so that they can get the antibody count up to regulatory levels.  And they don't even know how long these re-programmed cells with damaged innate immunity will live on pumping out designer antigens.  They probably don't even know if the T-cell damaging framework effects only the re-programmed cells (which were successfully invaded with the designer genetic material) or all cells in the area.  I put a vid from from the AstraZeneca developers explaining this little issue a few days ago.

If ever there was a technology which set up to fail spectacularly it is this 'warp speed' mRNA and DNA vaccine...to be administered domestically in the U.S. by the army, and with the president (in red-face) strongly hinting that it will be at gunpoint.

Of course 'fail' means different things to different people.  Giving someone a debilitating chronic disease which requires a lifetime of expensive medication is 'not a bug; but rather a feature' to Big Pharma.  And some of these cretins like Bill Gates are pretty sure that the world has about 10 times more people than it should.  From that standpoint there is a possibility that it will be a great success.  Maybe as great as getting SV40 monkey cancer virus into the polio vaccine and ultimately getting cancer rates up to 25%.  My parents and grandparents who got that injection are batting 5 for 6 on getting cancer.  And the 6th (my dad) was told by the 'medical professionals' that he had cancer but he ignored it and nothing came of it.

[BADecker]

^^^ Talking about "fail," I saw a license plate that read CMNFAIL . Do you think the car might belong to a woman?

[Gyfts]

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.08.11.20171843v2

We found that recovered individuals developed SARS-CoV-2-specific IgG antibody and neutralizing plasma, as well as virus-specific memory B and T cells that not only persisted, but in some cases increased numerically over three months following symptom onset. Furthermore, the SARS-CoV-2-specific memory lymphocytes exhibited characteristics associated with potent antiviral immunity: memory T cells secreted IFN-γ and expanded upon antigen re-encounter, while memory B cells expressed receptors capable of neutralizing virus when expressed as antibodies. These findings demonstrate that mild COVID-19 elicits memory lymphocytes that persist and display functional hallmarks associated with antiviral protective immunity.

Promising news for a vaccine. New study basically suggests you retain antibody immunity after contracting the virus even if you only experienced mild symptoms. You retain these antibodies for an extended period (multiple months is what the study claims).

Actually, no.  It's terrible news.  No vaccine works on the innate immune system and the technology ignores the fact that the system even exists.

Even the ultra-modern mRNA vaccines work by trying to result in as many antibodies as needed (to reach an arbitrarily government set value required for licensing as 'effective' since finding out if they actually stop a person from getting a disease would be 'unethical'.)  The innate immune system (T-cells) are really fucking things up for the vax makers.  Periodic 'boosters' are quickly not working whatsoever in humans who seem to have a notably different immune system in this regard compared to laboratory animals when it comes to dealing with coronavirus specifically.  The mRNA designers are having add things to STOP the innate immune system from working [since it works against the vaccine itself] so that they can get the antibody count up to regulatory levels.  And they don't even know how long these re-programmed cells with damaged innate immunity will live on pumping out designer antigens.  They probably don't even know if the T-cell damaging framework effects only the re-programmed cells (which were successfully invaded with the designer genetic material) or all cells in the area.  I put a vid from from the AstraZeneca developers explaining this little issue a few days ago.

If ever there was a technology which set up to fail spectacularly it is this 'warp speed' mRNA and DNA vaccine...to be administered domestically in the U.S. by the army, and with the president (in red-face) strongly hinting that it will be at gunpoint.

Of course 'fail' means different things to different people.  Giving someone a debilitating chronic disease which requires a lifetime of expensive medication is 'not a bug; but rather a feature' to Big Pharma.  And some of these cretins like Bill Gates are pretty sure that the world has about 10 times more people than it should.  From that standpoint there is a possibility that it will be a great success.  Maybe as great as getting SV40 monkey cancer virus into the polio vaccine and ultimately getting cancer rates up to 25%.  My parents and grandparents who got that injection are batting 5 for 6 on getting cancer.  And the 6th (my dad) was told by the 'medical professionals' that he had cancer but he ignored it and nothing came of it.

First of all, T cells are involved in the adaptive immune system, not innate immune system. Secondly, clinical trials are when vaccines are tested on humans, and those are not forced. People consent to participate. Whatever response is seen on test animals can be tested to see if the response is mimicked in humans. 

[franky1]

Actually, no.  It's terrible news.  No vaccine works on the innate immune system and the technology ignores the fact that the system even exists.
since finding out if they actually stop a person from getting a disease would be 'unethical'.)  

First of all, T cells are involved in the adaptive immune system, not innate immune system. Secondly, clinical trials are when vaccines are tested on humans, and those are not forced. People consent to participate. Whatever response is seen on test animals can be tested to see if the response is mimicked in humans.  

the unethical misread bit tvbcof talks about is that although people volunteer to have a vaccine. doctors then later do not force the actual virus on people by making them lick the faces of sick people or perform mouth to mouth exposure... as that is unethical

however many trial use candidate demographs where their natural exposure from their home/work life puts then at a high chance of getting exposed to the virus later without any forced exposure
this group is usually doctors followed by teachers.
the UK,US and even russia are doing their phase 2 and 3 trials on this group. because its not jsut about side effects or longevity of the vaccine. but also exposure NATURALLY to other people in their lives that can pass on the virus.

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the other part of the study where they said that antibody rates went up for the 3 months after symptom onset. is a sign that the person that recovered. was getting persistant exposure to people around them so the antibodies were fighting off the next infection before any symptoms appeared

doctors are doing periodic blood sampling of those taking the vaccine because seeing levelling out of antibody production means there is no current threat. but seeing a rise later means it has detected a threat. and not having symptoms but having this raised antibody count long after the first recover is a sign of re-infection assymptomatically. which is a good sign it done its job

what they dont want to see is where people that were sick months before get sick again to the same extent they did the first time

[tvbcof]

Actually, no.  It's terrible news.  No vaccine works on the innate immune system and the technology ignores the fact that the system even exists.

Even the ultra-modern mRNA vaccines work by trying to result in as many antibodies as needed (to reach an arbitrarily government set value required for licensing as 'effective' since finding out if they actually stop a person from getting a disease would be 'unethical'.)  The innate immune system (T-cells) are really fucking things up for the vax makers.  Periodic 'boosters' are quickly not working whatsoever in humans who seem to have a notably different immune system in this regard compared to laboratory animals when it comes to dealing with coronavirus specifically.  The mRNA designers are having add things to STOP the innate immune system from working [since it works against the vaccine itself] so that they can get the antibody count up to regulatory levels.  And they don't even know how long these re-programmed cells with damaged innate immunity will live on pumping out designer antigens.  They probably don't even know if the T-cell damaging framework effects only the re-programmed cells (which were successfully invaded with the designer genetic material) or all cells in the area.  I put a vid from from the AstraZeneca developers explaining this little issue a few days ago.

If ever there was a technology which set up to fail spectacularly it is this 'warp speed' mRNA and DNA vaccine...to be administered domestically in the U.S. by the army, and with the president (in red-face) strongly hinting that it will be at gunpoint.

Of course 'fail' means different things to different people.  Giving someone a debilitating chronic disease which requires a lifetime of expensive medication is 'not a bug; but rather a feature' to Big Pharma.  And some of these cretins like Bill Gates are pretty sure that the world has about 10 times more people than it should.  From that standpoint there is a possibility that it will be a great success.  Maybe as great as getting SV40 monkey cancer virus into the polio vaccine and ultimately getting cancer rates up to 25%.  My parents and grandparents who got that injection are batting 5 for 6 on getting cancer.  And the 6th (my dad) was told by the 'medical professionals' that he had cancer but he ignored it and nothing came of it.

First of all, T cells are involved in the adaptive immune system, not innate immune system.

Various kinds of T cells play a role in both systems in current generally accepted theory although it is clear that there are lots and lots of mysteries.

Unfortunately there is no mystery about how to make money n vaccines.  Get Antibodies.  Period.  Even if it means giving the victim a lifetime of autoimmune syndromes in traditional vaccines.

In the case of AstraZeneca's RNA tech (at least) it mean permanently damaging the immune system's ability to use interferon with MERS genetic sequences so it doens't disrupt their designer plasmids.  No one thought to wonder if screwing with this aspect of the immune system, noting that bears primary responsibility for dealing with one's own misbehaving cells (that is to say, cancer) might cause some long term issues.  Or did they?  Doesn't matter since fast-tracking the vaccine to combat this mild cold known as 'covid-19' ensures that there will be no long term safety studies.  As long as the cancer doesn't show up within half a year they are golden.  Almost certainly this is why the pharma companies are demanding (and getting) complete legal immunity from lawsuits against anything they do.

Secondly, clinical trials are when vaccines are tested on humans, and those are not forced. People consent to participate. Whatever response is seen on test animals can be tested to see if the response is mimicked in humans. 

As the AstraZeneca chief scientist says, humans actually respond in a notably different way than do lab animals.  So they added a bit more MERS gene sequences to their so-called vaccine.

In work on a coronavirus vaccine a decade ago the lab animals dropped like flies due to cytokine storms upon re-challenge.  I guess we'll in real life if that happens to humans after the army force=vaccinates everyone in the U.S. (except the wealthy presumably.)

[franky1]

if people drop like flies due to a cytokine storm then the vaccine is not effective because a cytokin storm is what the novel virus causes. and what a vaccine is meant to help prevent

by you pretending the actual virus is mild and doesnt trigger a cytokine storm is ignorant.
by you saying that a vaccine triggers a cytokine storm is ignorant of the whole purpose of a vaccine

if people start turning up in hospital with cytokine storm triggered pneumonia and it shows they had a vaccine. then questions will come up
its how the hospitals in december first realised that something wasnt right and they actually tested and swabbed people and by december30th realised it was a new virus..
all because people having a cytokine storm who shouldnt be having one were turning up to hospital

and look how fast things changed

many medications have recalls even if the pass their initial trials. this is because the medical industry actually does have ethical standards
(unlike 'supplements' which dont have to do trials or be honest about what they supposedly help with, or even any safe dosage trials)

what should be considered is more likely bad batches rather than overall ineffectiveness after it passes the trials

take media's response to russia
they passed first and second phase and now waiting till october to give an extra 3 months 'monitoring' before starting phase 3 which will be on doctors and teachers (not whole population)

media however are saying that russia are racing ahead and racing too fast and are going to be inoculating the whole population in october

when you look at the actual facts that even the UK and america are actually preparing to be having some kind of social distance policy even into 2021 then you know that no virus is going to be ready in a few months

when old vaccine trial were done. regulations meant that lab guys had to wait a year between each trial and involving alot more bureucratic stuff before moving onto the next stage the delay due purely on the paperwork was several months
EG write a report. get consents, get peer reviews, have the peer reviews come to a conclusion and then they might get funding to proceed to next stage. once the funding committee read the conclusions and then consult together. then adveertise for volunteers make enough doses for next stage, then invite the volunteers in giving them a few weeks to book off some holiday from work or a day off and such


now its streamlined that once they have a report they can get funding to move to next stage
of preparing more doses and advertising for volunteers while also having that 3 month to monitor the phase 2 trial for long term after effects
 and the committee review the studies and double check the claims while the prep work is being done for the next phase so that by the 3rd month. its all done in one go concurrently instead of old style consequentially

EG russia a prime example. it passed phase 2 but wont start phase 3 until october but has been given the green light to actually do phase 3. now between today and october the commitees can review the 2trial and can pull the plug if they find errors. rather than wasting months checking. then further months preparing then further months initiating

[BADecker]

if people drop like flies due to a cytokine storm then the vaccine is not effective because a cytokin storm is what the novel virus causes. and what a vaccine is meant to help prevent

by you pretending the actual virus is mild and doesnt trigger a cytokine storm is ignorant.
by you saying that a vaccine triggers a cytokine storm is ignorant of the whole purpose of a vaccine

if people start turning up in hospital with virus triggered pneumonia and it shows they had a vaccine. then questions will come up

many medications have recalls even if the pass their initial trials. this is because the medical industry actually does have ethical standards
(unlike 'supplements' which dont have to do trials or be honest about what they supposedly help with, or even any safe dosage trials)

what should be considered is more likely bad batches rather than overall ineffectiveness after it passes the trials

take media's response to russia
they passed first and second phase and now waiting till october to give an extra 3 months 'monitoring' before starting phase 3 which will be on doctors and teachers (not whole population)

media however are saying that russia are racing ahead and racing too fast and are going to be inoculating the whole population in october

when you look at the actual facts that even the UK and america are actually preparing to be having some kind of social distance policy even into 2021 then you know that no virus is going to be ready in a few months

when old vaccine trial were done. regulations meant that lab guys had to wait a year between each trial and involving alot more bureucratic stuff before moving onto the next stage the delay due purely on the paperwork was several months
EG write a report. get consents, get peer reviews, have the peer reviews come to a conclusion and then they might get funding to proceed to next stage. once the funding committee read the conclusions and then consult together

now its streamlined that once they have a report they can get funding to move to next stage and the committee review the studies and double check the claims while the prep work is being done for the next phase
EG russia a prime example. it passed phase 2 but wont start phase 3 until october but has been given the green light to actually do phase 3. now between today and october the commitees can review the 2trial and can pull the plug if they find errors. rather than wasting months checking. then further months preparing

If flies drop like flies, why are there so many of them left around us?

Vaccines are BS, and so is most of what you say.

[Tash]

Idoit boxes, yes, they are still a thing
https://youtu.be/sFi2rgCvjNU
 Rik Mayall † 9. Juni 2014

[BADecker]

Maybe the tests are all wrong. Maybe not only isn't there any virus, but also the tests simply show "trash" results. However, as the article says, below: "... unless pigs can fly." But pigs CAN fly. People fly them all over the place at times, in airplanes. And people make vaccines, right?


Why You Shouldn't Believe Anything The Government Says About Vaccines And Viruses

Why? Because the credibility of information you're getting now, from government agencies, about COVID, is connected to the credibility of information you've received from the same government agencies in years gone by.

If they lied to you then—in mind-boggling ways—there is no reason to think they're telling the truth now.

Buckle up.

SCANDAL ONE: In 2013, Dr. Peter Doshi, writing in the online BMJ (British Medical Journal), revealed this monstrosity.

As Doshi states, every year, hundreds of thousands of respiratory samples are taken from flu patients in the US and tested in labs. Here is the kicker: only a small percentage of these samples show the presence of a flu virus.

This means: most of the people in America who are diagnosed by doctors with the flu have no flu virus in their bodies.

So they don’t have the flu.

Therefore, even if you assume the flu vaccine is useful and safe, it couldn’t possibly prevent all those “flu cases” that aren’t flu cases.

The vaccine couldn’t possibly work.

The vaccine isn’t designed to prevent fake flu, unless pigs can fly.

...

SCANDAL TWO: Widely reported in the press, health authorities admit the seasonal flu vaccine may be only 10% effective in a given year.

...

“[According to CDC statistics], ‘influenza and pneumonia’ took 62,034 lives in 2001—61,777 of which were attributable to pneumonia and 257 to flu, and in only 18 cases was the flu virus positively identified.”

...

Attkisson [on the 2009 Swine Flu epidemic]: The implications of the story were even worse than that. We discovered through our FOI efforts that before the CDC mysteriously stopped counting Swine Flu cases, they had learned that almost none of the cases they had counted as Swine Flu was, in fact, Swine Flu or any sort of flu at all! The interest in the story from one [CBS] executive was very enthusiastic. He said it was “the most original story” he’d seen on the whole Swine Flu epidemic. But others pushed to stop it [after it was published on the CBS News website] and, in the end, no [CBS television news] broadcast wanted to touch it. We aired numerous stories pumping up the idea of an epidemic, but not the one that would shed original, new light on all the hype. It was fair, accurate, legally approved and a heck of a story. With the CDC keeping the true Swine Flu stats secret, it meant that many in the public took and gave their children an experimental vaccine that may not have been necessary.

[Xembin]

This is quickly becoming a global issue.

"Possible Coronavirus Case Under Investigation In Texas, Los Angeles.

Obviously, Corona virus has spread over some countries, like US, Australia, South Korea, and some countries are confirming the virus in different angle.
Face mask yourself, when you are in public place, stay indoor, is preferable because some  people have contacted the virus, which them don't know, washing of hands, wearing of face mask, and don't sneezs in public place.

[Bitcoinsummoner]

Obviously, Corona virus has spread over some countries, like US, Australia, South Korea, and some countries are confirming the virus in different angle.

Corona virus spread some countries only?? 215 countries affected by corona virus. You can see all 215 countries from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Also you can see update of each country on each 24 hours. Now it is not some countries it is all countries in the world.

[BADecker]

Obviously, Corona virus has spread over some countries, like US, Australia, South Korea, and some countries are confirming the virus in different angle.

Corona virus spread some countries only?? 215 countries affected by corona virus. You can see all 215 countries from https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries
Also you can see update of each country on each 24 hours. Now it is not some countries it is all countries in the world.

But watch this - https://altcensored.com/watch?v=aX_Q1FaY9pI - starting at about 47 minutes. There are 6 countries in Africa that almost weren't affected by Covid. The reason seems to be that, even though they had many visitors from China, they also had hydroxychloroquine (HCQ). They had been using HCQ for years for malaria. And even though HCQ wasn't as effective for malaria as they would have liked, it was almost 100% effective for Covid.

What's really interesting is that these countries didn't even think about using HCQ for Covid. Why not? Because they never had more than a few Covid-sick people. So they didn't even deem Covid a problem to worry about. HCQ protection was incidental for them, based in their HCQ malaria protection. But it was there all the same.

Even though HCQ is being blocked in the USA and a few other countries, you can get its sister medications all over the place. They might not work as well, but they work. Watch the rest of the video to find and see a list of these medications.

[Bitcoinsummoner]

There are 6 countries in Africa that almost weren't affected by Covid.

There are few countries which are affected only few numbers of people by covid 19. According to https://www.worldometers.info/ there are 3 countries where number of affected people is less than 10 and there are 13 countries where affected number is less than 20. It means they have affected too low but that doesn't mean they have not been affected.

[Tash]

There are 6 countries in Africa that almost weren't affected by Covid.

There are few countries which are affected only few numbers of people by covid 19. According to https://www.worldometers.info/ there are 3 countries where number of affected people is less than 10 and there are 13 countries where affected number is less than 20. It means they have affected too low but that doesn't mean they have not been affected.

There are very few countries Santa Clause does not visit.
If someone is of the opinion some virus can exist just as well in + 40° celsius and -30° celsius, in humid like really muggy wet contition and dry as dry can be, then he is also of the opnion Santa Clause will bring some goods soon again.
The real virus is the idiot box, tell (lie) vision.

[BADecker]

There are 6 countries in Africa that almost weren't affected by Covid.

There are few countries which are affected only few numbers of people by covid 19. According to https://www.worldometers.info/ there are 3 countries where number of affected people is less than 10 and there are 13 countries where affected number is less than 20. It means they have affected too low but that doesn't mean they have not been affected.

Thanks for agreeing with me in a little more detail than I brought forth.

[Tash]

If you have to amplify multiple times to get results as with corona test you end up with irregular results no matter what.
Testing 10 times the same person on result will be positive
https://pieceofmindful.com/2020/04/06/bombshell-who-coronavirus-pcr-test-primer-sequence-is-found-in-all-human-dna/

[franky1]

If you have to amplify multiple times to get results as with corona test you end up with irregular results no matter what.
Testing 10 times the same person on result will be positive
https://pieceofmindful.com/2020/04/06/bombshell-who-coronavirus-pcr-test-primer-sequence-is-found-in-all-human-dna/

lets handle this little chestNUT
PCR isnt just handed the virus to test.
its handed the whole sample of bodily fluid
 the whole process is to ISOLATE the virus from the human bodily fluid. and to do this they need to identify the human strands to isolate and disgard
then they can concentrate whats left over and test it

tash try to research human specimen control
it took me less than 3 minutes to debunk your link.

[BADecker]

If you have to amplify multiple times to get results as with corona test you end up with irregular results no matter what.
Testing 10 times the same person on result will be positive
https://pieceofmindful.com/2020/04/06/bombshell-who-coronavirus-pcr-test-primer-sequence-is-found-in-all-human-dna/

lets handle this little chestNUT
PCR isnt just handed the virus to test.
its handed the whole sample of bodily fluid
 the whole process is to ISOLATE the virus from the human bodily fluid. and to do this they need to identify the human strands to isolate and disgard
then they can concentrate whats left over and test it

tash try to research human specimen control
it took me less than 3 minutes to debunk your link.

No debunk there. If you are handed the whole sample, who knows what you isolated? Could have been anything.

What this really means is that the so-called virus could have been introduced after the sample was taken.

Or, the material caused to grow could be the only material that would grow under those circumstance and with the particular growth chemical.

Or, many materials were grown, but none of them are analyzed enough to see that there are dozens of materials that put out the same test reactions.

Consider making your own magic rocks in a fish bowl - https://www.thoughtco.com/make-your-own-magic-rocks-607653.

This doesn't mean that doctors are dishonest. All it means is that the test wasn't designed to detect anything for diagnosis.

You are debunked.