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Author Topic: [ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source  (Read 748204 times)
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June 01, 2014, 04:31:38 PM
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What's wrong with qora? Why people just keep dumping and dumping?

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June 01, 2014, 04:37:12 PM
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What's wrong with qora? Why people just keep dumping and dumping?

My guess it to buy nxt. I'm hodling...and buying if qora continues to fall.
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June 01, 2014, 04:39:43 PM
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@qora, Version 7 - very buggy. Should think about what would produce test versions and stable.
Use v6?

v7 is tip top for me...best version yet! I mean solid. (Edit: running on win8)
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June 01, 2014, 04:45:23 PM
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people watch out we have a  SCAMER
What's scamer?

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June 01, 2014, 04:47:02 PM
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why Qora if there Nxt and NEM ?

no dollar you shall receive!!! the unfairest coin this year ... congratulations to this fucking distribution.

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June 01, 2014, 05:06:20 PM
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What's wrong with qora? Why people just keep dumping and dumping?

Qora needs services to pay with, else the price is going to fall. And as I know, there is no service asking for Qora at the moment.
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June 01, 2014, 05:17:29 PM
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Complaining about distribution is like complaining about block difficulty going up. Then poor miners can't pump and dump because they can't afford newer mining rigs/equiptment. Fact - POW is doomed. POS is the future (at least for now).

Qora is still in it's infancy and will find it's niche. The selling is great for distribution and will continue. Nxt is blazing a path that other POS alt's such as Qora can follow or avoid and the long term outlook is great.

If you are looking for a quick pump and dump, there are plenty of other shitcoins to take a look at so don't waste your breath here. This is a Proof-of-Stake coin with Proof-of-Stake supporters, so you little miner's can go back to checking the temperatures of your gpu's or selling coins to pay your electric.

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June 01, 2014, 05:33:31 PM
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why Qora if there Nxt and NEM ?

no dollar you shall receive!!! the unfairest coin this year ... congratulations to this fucking distribution.


I don't care what you think.

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June 01, 2014, 05:36:31 PM
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why Qora if there Nxt and NEM ?

no dollar you shall receive!!! the unfairest coin this year ... congratulations to this fucking distribution.


I don't care what you think.

u are greedy as all here... come to nxt this is all u need my friend.

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June 01, 2014, 05:41:59 PM
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u are greedy as all here... come to nxt this is all u need my friend.

Say's the guy with a NEM signature.

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June 01, 2014, 05:42:13 PM
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why Qora if there Nxt and NEM ?

no dollar you shall receive!!! the unfairest coin this year ... congratulations to this fucking distribution.


I don't care what you think.

u are greedy as all here... come to nxt this is all u need my friend.

I genuinely wonder how stupid people like you think other people are.

NXT is all you need with a NEM signature?  Seriously only someone semi retarded would bother posting like you are.

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June 01, 2014, 05:45:06 PM
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Complaining about distribution is like complaining about block difficulty going up. Then poor miners can't pump and dump because they can't afford newer mining rigs/equiptment. Fact - POW is doomed. POS is the future (at least for now).

Qora is still in it's infancy and will find it's niche. The selling is great for distribution and will continue. Nxt is blazing a path that other POS alt's such as Qora can follow or avoid and the long term outlook is great.

If you are looking for a quick pump and dump, there are plenty of other shitcoins to take a look at so don't waste your breath here. This is a Proof-of-Stake coin with Proof-of-Stake supporters, so you little miner's can go back to checking the temperatures of your gpu's or selling coins to pay your electric.

POS in general has still the problem of sybil attacks.
As there is no whitepaper or any other look into the code, Qora has not yet shown how it handles such situations.
POS might seem to be a great idea if you look at it the first moment, but it shows it's problems once you dig deeper.
It is a lot more energy efficient, that is correct. But on the other hand this approach minimizes the cost of sybil attacks compared to POW.
So, it is of yet unknown how much damage a sybil attack could cause and how costly it is to perform one.

As far as I know not a single POS coin has really solves the issue. Peercoin is more or less centralized at this point to protect from POS based sybil attacks.
NXT is doing fine so far, but you never know what the future brings.

And Qora is pretty much a blackbox.

I'm not convinced POS is the future. At least not in it's current form.
There is still a lot of technical progress to be made before it can be seen as completly secure.
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June 01, 2014, 05:52:22 PM
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Complaining about distribution is like complaining about block difficulty going up. Then poor miners can't pump and dump because they can't afford newer mining rigs/equiptment. Fact - POW is doomed. POS is the future (at least for now).

Qora is still in it's infancy and will find it's niche. The selling is great for distribution and will continue. Nxt is blazing a path that other POS alt's such as Qora can follow or avoid and the long term outlook is great.

If you are looking for a quick pump and dump, there are plenty of other shitcoins to take a look at so don't waste your breath here. This is a Proof-of-Stake coin with Proof-of-Stake supporters, so you little miner's can go back to checking the temperatures of your gpu's or selling coins to pay your electric.

POS in general has still the problem of sybil attacks.
As there is no whitepaper or any other look into the code, Qora has not yet shown how it handles such situations.
POS might seem to be a great idea if you look at it the first moment, but it shows it's problems once you dig deeper.
It is a lot more energy efficient, that is correct. But on the other hand this approach minimizes the cost of sybil attacks compared to POW.
So, it is of yet unknown how much damage a sybil attack could cause and how costly it is to perform one.

As far as I know not a single POS coin has really solves the issue. Peercoin is more or less centralized at this point to protect from POS based sybil attacks.
NXT is doing fine so far, but you never know what the future brings.

And Qora is pretty much a blackbox.

I'm not convinced POS is the future. At least not in it's current form.
There is still a lot of technical progress to be made before it can be seen as completly secure.


Did NXT release their source code after two weeks?

I can see you have a few valid intelligent points. But answer me this, why are the majority of your posts on POS coins if you doubt them so much?

By the way thanks for bumping this thread, every little helps to get the word out.

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June 01, 2014, 05:56:31 PM
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Stay away from PoloniEx - too many issues. I provided a screen shot of an issue, they owe me money, they wont fix the issue. Try Qora on different exchanges. I've pulled my BTC from Polo. Site has no support. 9 hours to respond to my issue, and only reason they responded was because I started to complain on their trollbox chat.

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June 01, 2014, 05:57:31 PM
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why Qora if there Nxt and NEM ?

no dollar you shall receive!!! the unfairest coin this year ... congratulations to this fucking distribution.


I don't care what you think.

u are greedy as all here... come to nxt this is all u need my friend.

I genuinely wonder how stupid people like you think other people are.

NXT is all you need with a NEM signature?  Seriously only someone semi retarded would bother posting like you are.

NXT und NEM both can complement each other well. You will see Wink

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June 01, 2014, 05:58:53 PM
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Complaining about distribution is like complaining about block difficulty going up. Then poor miners can't pump and dump because they can't afford newer mining rigs/equiptment. Fact - POW is doomed. POS is the future (at least for now).

Qora is still in it's infancy and will find it's niche. The selling is great for distribution and will continue. Nxt is blazing a path that other POS alt's such as Qora can follow or avoid and the long term outlook is great.

If you are looking for a quick pump and dump, there are plenty of other shitcoins to take a look at so don't waste your breath here. This is a Proof-of-Stake coin with Proof-of-Stake supporters, so you little miner's can go back to checking the temperatures of your gpu's or selling coins to pay your electric.

POS in general has still the problem of sybil attacks.
As there is no whitepaper or any other look into the code, Qora has not yet shown how it handles such situations.
POS might seem to be a great idea if you look at it the first moment, but it shows it's problems once you dig deeper.
It is a lot more energy efficient, that is correct. But on the other hand this approach minimizes the cost of sybil attacks compared to POW.
So, it is of yet unknown how much damage a sybil attack could cause and how costly it is to perform one.

As far as I know not a single POS coin has really solves the issue. Peercoin is more or less centralized at this point to protect from POS based sybil attacks.
NXT is doing fine so far, but you never know what the future brings.

And Qora is pretty much a blackbox.

I'm not convinced POS is the future. At least not in it's current form.
There is still a lot of technical progress to be made before it can be seen as completly secure.

I'm not sure if you are agreeing with me or what the purpose of quoting me was? My statement was as follows: POS is the future (at least for now) , that implies there may be something out there yet to be implemented.

I am invested in ALL POS coins that show potential based on my Qualitative Comparison, Qora is part of that list.

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June 01, 2014, 06:00:44 PM
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NXT and NEM both can complement each other well. You will see Wink

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June 01, 2014, 06:20:56 PM
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NXT and NEM both can complement each other well. You will see Wink

Ummm, what is your point? You've already made yourself look like a fool by coming on here and stating, and I quote: "come to nxt this is all u need my friend" and then the very next post stating that Nxt and NEM compliment each other.

Nobody here is discussing or bashing Nxt or NEM (I consider myself quite a Nxt fanboy). If you haven't noticed, this is a Qora thread and I would gather the majority of the individuals invested in Qora are also invested in NEM and Nxt just like myself, but that is an assumption.

If you don't like Qora - that is fine. But nobody really cares, honestly, they don't. If you must hear yourself talk take a garden hose and hold one end up to your ear and the other to your mouth, you'll find yourself in true bliss.

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June 01, 2014, 06:35:26 PM
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Complaining about distribution is like complaining about block difficulty going up. Then poor miners can't pump and dump because they can't afford newer mining rigs/equiptment. Fact - POW is doomed. POS is the future (at least for now).

Qora is still in it's infancy and will find it's niche. The selling is great for distribution and will continue. Nxt is blazing a path that other POS alt's such as Qora can follow or avoid and the long term outlook is great.

If you are looking for a quick pump and dump, there are plenty of other shitcoins to take a look at so don't waste your breath here. This is a Proof-of-Stake coin with Proof-of-Stake supporters, so you little miner's can go back to checking the temperatures of your gpu's or selling coins to pay your electric.

POS in general has still the problem of sybil attacks.
As there is no whitepaper or any other look into the code, Qora has not yet shown how it handles such situations.
POS might seem to be a great idea if you look at it the first moment, but it shows it's problems once you dig deeper.
It is a lot more energy efficient, that is correct. But on the other hand this approach minimizes the cost of sybil attacks compared to POW.
So, it is of yet unknown how much damage a sybil attack could cause and how costly it is to perform one.

As far as I know not a single POS coin has really solves the issue. Peercoin is more or less centralized at this point to protect from POS based sybil attacks.
NXT is doing fine so far, but you never know what the future brings.

And Qora is pretty much a blackbox.

I'm not convinced POS is the future. At least not in it's current form.
There is still a lot of technical progress to be made before it can be seen as completly secure.


Did NXT release their source code after two weeks?

I can see you have a few valid intelligent points. But answer me this, why are the majority of your posts on POS coins if you doubt them so much?

By the way thanks for bumping this thread, every little helps to get the word out.

Oh, don't mention it. I like Qora, always glad to help Cheesy

I actually don't know when the source of NXT was released. And I don't care, it's not the point. NXT had to suffer the same valid attacks while it was closed source.
Now it's Qoras turn and I am more than intrigued to see how the problem is tackled. After all, the basic principle of POS is great. It's just not finished.
So, I'm sitting here and gathering puzzle pieces for the perfect Proof of Whatever system. Pointing out problems often enough provokes some good response on the points made. Not so much around here, but well

The whole current POS dilemma boils down to one point: Why did Satoshi leave BTC? Because he saw the project as failed. Multipools started to kill it. So now he is sitting somewhere and thinking on how the problem of Proof can be solves in a way that creates a system which is either ungameable or provides zero or negative incentive to even try.

POS is a nice system, but basically it failed already in all current implementations.
So the loop closes... how did Qora solve it? Did Qora solve it?

While asking for that I also do the good deed of educating newcomers.
Thats not in the short term interest of most people around here, but will be better long term. Who wants a lot of nervous new people in the project? Not me Smiley
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June 01, 2014, 06:39:09 PM
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NXT and NEM both can complement each other well. You will see Wink

Ummm, what is your point? You've already made yourself look like a fool by coming on here and stating, and I quote: "come to nxt this is all u need my friend" and then the very next post stating that Nxt and NEM compliment each other.

Nobody here is discussing or bashing Nxt or NEM (I consider myself quite a Nxt fanboy). If you haven't noticed, this is a Qora thread and I would gather the majority of the individuals invested in Qora are also invested in NEM and Nxt just like myself, but that is an assumption.

If you don't like Qora - that is fine. But nobody really cares, honestly, they don't. If you must hear yourself talk take a garden hose and hold one end up to your ear and the other to your mouth, you'll find yourself in true bliss.

do you think the people are stupid? invest blind? ok every day is an idiot wake up and then buys Qora.
Nxt has just made ​​ ONE mistake that was the distribution, but it was an experiment. You make aware this mistake, and that's a shame!!!!

I can only warn people to buy quora. That's it, I'm gone.

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