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June 02, 2014, 06:03:22 PM
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The price action on Sharexcoin at least is retarded. If people really wanted to sell so cheap why don't they put sells in a bit lower?


What I believe is there is manipulation, has been for a while there. Its holding back any true buying. I would be happy for the price to drop to al low as 20 Sats if it cleared the market and brought buyers in. But this is not whats happening. Someone is buying and then pushing the price down by selling off the low buy wall. The of course they come on here etc and say wow its 10 sats to try to produce a cascade.



Why it annoys me is people with Qora who have nice sized stakes could walk in and buy up the sell wall with a few BTC and also put in much higher buys. I did the other day, guess what happened, my high buys disappeared in under a minute even though they were at 70. Someone wanted to clear my high buys to push g=down to crappy buys again.

Like I said if Qora holders come in and buy with BTC the price can shoot up easily. Or I suggest sellers just sell cheap and get this market moving. Either way Qora owners are sitting on their hands. I've never seen such a long price stand off.

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June 02, 2014, 06:45:32 PM
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Too much price discussion, little development discussion


That's because no one is working on the development, what development do you want to talk about your working on? This isn't NXT.

What you mean is marketing. Well Qora has told us not to market yet, but we all decided to not listen much. Anyway apart from twitter campaign and doing the website etc price action is one of biggest marketing tools. People don't often know about a coin but they know if the price shoots up 100% on Coinmarketcap and it goes into the top 10. That's why if everyone wanted to see that and they believe in Qora then all they would have to do is head to Sharexcoin and drop a couple of BTC on Qora. I mean we can't tell people it's a great price but we aren't buying ourselves.

This is a rare situation where a coin so high in Coinmarketcap has such a shallow market. Literally we can do whatever we want with the price.

By the way that pop we had a few days ago was just me on my own buying 5btc of qora. I moved qora up two places on Coinmarketcap on my own!! I wasnt trying to pump I just noticed how much I influenced the price. Grin

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June 02, 2014, 07:41:59 PM
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balance went to 0? Seems to be a known problem, trying to recover now using te seed and renamed the wallet dir..

That worked. This problem should be solved with v8 I hope.
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June 02, 2014, 08:38:40 PM
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I had the same. The transfer of the faucet did not com back but another transfer from withdrawal of poloniex went fine.
I just tried the faucet and I just got another 20.

Maybe the faucet was on a fork the first time? Don't know....
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June 02, 2014, 08:46:22 PM
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What happened is one entity controlled more then 50% of all the generating balance in the network and created a longer fork. (unintentionally)
This fork orphaned transactions which had been confirmed for more then 24hours causing them to become invalid.
An unconfirmed transaction automaticly becomes invalid after 24 hours and gets deleted.
The only way to make sure that this does not happen again is to use your Qora to generate blocks.

If you still get forks on version 8 and it does not want to synchronize to the longest chain please pm me your data files.

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June 02, 2014, 09:15:02 PM
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This fork orphaned transactions which had been confirmed for more then 24hours causing them to become invalid.
An unconfirmed transaction automaticly becomes invalid after 24 hours and gets deleted.

What is the best course of action for the confirmed transactions that ended up becoming invalid?

The only thing you can do is resend them.
I am not going to hardcode them into the client.
If people suffered huge losses because of this it is best to contact me.

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June 02, 2014, 09:17:46 PM
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This fork orphaned transactions which had been confirmed for more then 24hours causing them to become invalid.
An unconfirmed transaction automaticly becomes invalid after 24 hours and gets deleted.

What is the best course of action for the confirmed transactions that ended up becoming invalid?

For starters concact your counterparty and ask them to resend it. If you were the counterparty just resend it without asking questions. It is the right thing to do!

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June 02, 2014, 09:30:44 PM
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I bought 5 million from TOYJJWGS for 3BTC using escrow 2 days before and now after resyncing they are gone!

What can i do? Hope he resends them

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June 02, 2014, 09:33:03 PM
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I bought 5 million from TOYJJWGS for 3BTC using escrow 2 days before and now after resyncing they are gone!

What can i do? Hope he resends them

Contact him. He must resend for you to receive them!

I traded some trades with him, he seems trustworthy!

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June 02, 2014, 09:40:35 PM
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I bought 5 million from TOYJJWGS for 3BTC using escrow 2 days before and now after resyncing they are gone!

What can i do? Hope he resends them

Contact him. He must resend for you to receive them!

I traded some trades with him, he seems trustworthy!

I sent a PM. waiting for his reply

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June 02, 2014, 10:31:48 PM
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The price action on Sharexcoin at least is retarded. If people really wanted to sell so cheap why don't they put sells in a bit lower?


What I believe is there is manipulation, has been for a while there. Its holding back any true buying. I would be happy for the price to drop to al low as 20 Sats if it cleared the market and brought buyers in. But this is not whats happening. Someone is buying and then pushing the price down by selling off the low buy wall. The of course they come on here etc and say wow its 10 sats to try to produce a cascade.



Why it annoys me is people with Qora who have nice sized stakes could walk in and buy up the sell wall with a few BTC and also put in much higher buys. I did the other day, guess what happened, my high buys disappeared in under a minute even though they were at 70. Someone wanted to clear my high buys to push g=down to crappy buys again.

Like I said if Qora holders come in and buy with BTC the price can shoot up easily. Or I suggest sellers just sell cheap and get this market moving. Either way Qora owners are sitting on their hands. I've never seen such a long price stand off.

Just look at those buy walls on Poloniex..
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June 02, 2014, 10:58:18 PM
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I cannot sync  Cry
Whats with the network? Huh
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June 02, 2014, 11:02:12 PM
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I cannot sync  Cry
Whats with the network? Huh

same here, running v8
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June 02, 2014, 11:54:09 PM
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I bought 5 million from TOYJJWGS for 3BTC using escrow 2 days before and now after resyncing they are gone!

What can i do? Hope he resends them

It's awful. Dev should fix blockchain fork issue ASAP!
Exchange withdrawals, deposits and p2p trading could be stopped until this issue will be resolved.



I guess it's russian  Cheesy

No, it's Polish. The same in Russian is Kuritsa.

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June 03, 2014, 12:12:14 AM
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I guess it's russian  Cheesy
No, it's Polish. The same in Russian is Kuritsa.

In some local Russian dialects also. Saint Petersburg, for example.

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June 03, 2014, 12:19:35 AM
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Qora seems to still be buggy ... dont know why the rush to launch the coin.  Huh

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June 03, 2014, 12:28:36 AM
Last edit: June 03, 2014, 01:34:35 AM by dzarmush
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Qora seems to still be buggy ... dont know why the rush to launch the coin.  Huh

There was no rush. It was stable and secure enough for launch. Nobody hurry you to buy any coins. You can wait 6-12 month untill it's super stable and totally bug free on all OS, but I'm afraid it'll cost 10 times more by that time.


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June 03, 2014, 12:47:36 AM
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Qora seems to still be buggy ... dont know why the rush to launch the coin.  Huh



Bitcoin was buggy, NXT was buggy. Clones aren't buggy cause they aren't anything new.

If anyone did need another similarity to NXT/BCNexts work, this is one more.

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June 03, 2014, 02:21:32 AM
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qora is so cheape,why no one buy this coin. Cry
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June 03, 2014, 02:54:46 AM
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qora is so cheape,why no one buy this coin. Cry

What do you mean no one is buying? They are not buying from the sell side, they are putting up buy orders.

In the last 24 hours there has been over 50BTC traded....





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