[ANN] Qora | Released 16 May | 100% POS | New Source

[Ingatqhvq]

Dump,dump,dump,the distribution is awful.
If we want to attract more people involved, the dev should reveal more technical details. But the dev never answer anything about the technical details especially the algorithm.
Qora claim that 1-5 minute block time depending on the network activity. But now some of blocks need more than 10 minute to be generated.
is such question we should concern?
At this moment we should care more about the technical details IMHO, not the price.
We can't promote it if we don't know it.

[ivanlabrie]

+1, distribution is getting better...

As for technical details, we could do with some more updates from the dev, maybe get a PR guy or post updates weekly a la Sunny King.

[TwinWinNerD]

I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.

[gorillajam]

I know it's a pain in the ass, but worst case scenario your transaction will have to be resent once the forks are resolved. I sent from Polo to my wallet hours ago and still have not received. I'll open a ticket and wait. But I am not worried cause I will get my funds sooner or later, the are not lost.

Keep in mind, this is not a clone coin, there will be kinks to iron out and i suspect this is why the dev discouraged trading so early. We had similar issues with Nxt, but Nxt was not as soon on an Exchange as Qora, perhaps to its benefit. Hang in there, you will find and get your coins.

Ah, thank you!  It is really nice to get some information on this.  I will wait then.  It's hard to know when no one is saying anything.  Is it generally not a good idea to transfer Qora right now?

You need to spend a number of days with the exchanges trying to sort things out before you start complaining on here.

I did exactly that and I posted the details previously.

It was well known the Sharexcoin was far safer than Polinex so I traded there. I actually have 10m Qora there I bought. I might have problems myself so thats why i'm keeping them there. I'm just saying a few precautions could of gone a long way and moving rapidly between exchanges isn't being cautious.

I'm sure you will get your coins, you just might to wait a while. In the meantime can't you keep your issues off this thread. It creates a lot of negativity and suggests the client is falling apart rather than it is working pretty well.

[gorillajam]

I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.

We got one already, their name is Qora.


Don't you remember the problems at the beginning of NXT, people losing coins, version after version coming out and coins stuck on Dgex? If you are concerned do as the developer says and don't trade. But I don't see how your every whim has to direct the early development of the coin jsut to satisy those who want to have no risk in a a project that is always going to be high risk at first. Sit on your coins and go trade something else for now.


I believe your kind of comments and similar attitude from others are potentially destroying the coin at this early stage.

[50cent_rapper]

Poloniex wallet http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php?q=QPVknSmwDryB98Hh8xB7E6U75dGFYwNkJ4

Code:

DUMPER QjVweW35i1D8FqCNaGDuQ4xWHQyYHaT3Gp    AMOUNT TO DUMP 77,500,895
DUMPER QdUEaV9TQCSCeqCQGUfvSjXtUwN3duZERY    AMOUNT TO DUMP 29,999,996
DUMPER QT3e6aeCpUe8kTQjYCVPHn15JWXdszAUv4    AMOUNT TO DUMP 97,423,809 <--- What a son of a bitch!

That's why price is falling.

[gorillajam]

Poloniex wallet http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php?q=QPVknSmwDryB98Hh8xB7E6U75dGFYwNkJ4

Code:

DUMPER QjVweW35i1D8FqCNaGDuQ4xWHQyYHaT3Gp    AMOUNT TO DUMP 77,500,895
DUMPER QdUEaV9TQCSCeqCQGUfvSjXtUwN3duZERY    AMOUNT TO DUMP 29,999,996
DUMPER QT3e6aeCpUe8kTQjYCVPHn15JWXdszAUv4    AMOUNT TO DUMP 97,423,809 <--- What a sun of a bitch!

That's why price is falling.

Dumping is great for Qora, I would like the price to drop to 10 sats personally so more people could get in at lower prices.

[TwinWinNerD]

I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.

We got one already, their name is Qora.


Don't you remember the problems at the beginning of NXT, people losing coins, version after version coming out and coins stuck on Dgex? If you are concerned do as the developer says and don't trade. But I don't see how your every whim has to direct the early development of the coin jsut to satisy those who want to have no risk in a a project that is always going to be high risk at first. Sit on your coins and go trade something else for now.


I believe your kind of comments and similar attitude from others are potentially destroying the coin at this early stage.

I am qora holder and think qora is great, but please don't compare it to NXT.

NXT was never fully closed source with obfusicated source. BCNext did talk about his algo from the start and even told cfb everything and sent him the sourcecode to review it.

I don't even mind the trouble with forks at this moment, they are irrelevant in the long run.

What I care about is if the security is implemented correctly with this coin and not even qora knows that because a single person can and will always miss things. Even if he is the most genious person in the world.

[Buratino]

I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.

I agree. It brings to coin more trust and legitimation as cryptocurrency.

[TwinWinNerD]

I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.

I agree. It brings to coin more trust and legitimation as cryptocurrency.

Yes, I don't see why people get so upset when legit questions like that are raised... Those are no attacks but informational questions.

[gorillajam]

I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.

I agree. It brings to coin more trust and legitimation as cryptocurrency.

Yes, I don't see why people get so upset when legit questions like that are raised... Those are no attacks but informational questions.

Unless you didn't trade and you have these problems I think no ones argument is legit at this stage. The developer said not to trade. Focusing on setting up nodes is more important and we know the problem was cause more people weren't forging. I just think to suggest there is a security issue due to these issues is unfounded. Yeah lets get someone to check the code but just cause someone else looks it over doesn't mean much.

[Pentamon]

Growing pains.
I expect that things will straighten out. 
There is hope, yes.

Pentamon

[TwinWinNerD]

I gotta be honest, I'd very much like the security of this coin be reviewed by an expert. Especially the cryptography and the algorythm.

I agree. It brings to coin more trust and legitimation as cryptocurrency.

Yes, I don't see why people get so upset when legit questions like that are raised... Those are no attacks but informational questions.

Unless you didn't trade and you have these problems I think no ones argument is legit at this stage. The developer said not to trade. Focusing on setting up nodes is more important and we know the problem was cause more people weren't forging. I just think to suggest there is a security issue due to these issues is unfounded. Yeah lets get someone to check the code but just cause someone else looks it over doesn't mean much.

You didn't really understand what I was trying to say.

I don't care for forks or reversed transactions.

The thing I was trying to tell you was, that I want a professional cryptographer like Bernstein review the security implemention of the used cryptography in the code.

[TheMightyX]

Poloniex wallet http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php?q=QPVknSmwDryB98Hh8xB7E6U75dGFYwNkJ4

Code:

DUMPER QjVweW35i1D8FqCNaGDuQ4xWHQyYHaT3Gp    AMOUNT TO DUMP 77,500,895
DUMPER QdUEaV9TQCSCeqCQGUfvSjXtUwN3duZERY    AMOUNT TO DUMP 29,999,996
DUMPER QT3e6aeCpUe8kTQjYCVPHn15JWXdszAUv4    AMOUNT TO DUMP 97,423,809 <--- What a sun of a bitch!

That's why price is falling.

Dumping is great for Qora, I would like the price to drop to 10 sats personally so more people could get in at lower prices.

It's funny how quickly you change your tune.

When I was saying you guys were asking an unrealistic amount I was a heretic.

I'm glad some people have come to their senses though and you are precisely right, the lower the price goes the wider the distribution and the better overall it will be for the protocol in the long run.

[gorillajam]

Poloniex wallet http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php?q=QPVknSmwDryB98Hh8xB7E6U75dGFYwNkJ4

Code:

DUMPER QjVweW35i1D8FqCNaGDuQ4xWHQyYHaT3Gp    AMOUNT TO DUMP 77,500,895
DUMPER QdUEaV9TQCSCeqCQGUfvSjXtUwN3duZERY    AMOUNT TO DUMP 29,999,996
DUMPER QT3e6aeCpUe8kTQjYCVPHn15JWXdszAUv4    AMOUNT TO DUMP 97,423,809 <--- What a sun of a bitch!

That's why price is falling.

Dumping is great for Qora, I would like the price to drop to 10 sats personally so more people could get in at lower prices.

It's funny how quickly you change your tune.

When I was saying you guys were asking an unrealistic amount I was a heretic.

I'm glad some people have come to their senses though and you are precisely right, the lower the price goes the wider the distribution and the better overall it will be for the protocol in the long run.

No you were asking people to sell to you cheap, that a massive difference to people choosing to sell cheap. The true market value is way above what it is now, we will probably see the price get realistic once the other functions are implemented. The price won't stay down long. Plus what you were calling for was Qora to be fundamentally valued at a much lower price. Like I said completely different.


So tell me. Do you have any coins you are willing to sell to me for 50% of the current market price? Much appreciated.  

[dzarmush]

Poloniex wallet http://coinia.net/qora/blockexplorer.php?q=QPVknSmwDryB98Hh8xB7E6U75dGFYwNkJ4

Code:

DUMPER QjVweW35i1D8FqCNaGDuQ4xWHQyYHaT3Gp    AMOUNT TO DUMP 77,500,895
DUMPER QdUEaV9TQCSCeqCQGUfvSjXtUwN3duZERY    AMOUNT TO DUMP 29,999,996
DUMPER QT3e6aeCpUe8kTQjYCVPHn15JWXdszAUv4    AMOUNT TO DUMP 97,423,809 <--- What a sun of a bitch!

That's why price is falling.

Dumping is great for Qora, I would like the price to drop to 10 sats personally so more people could get in at lower prices.

It's funny how quickly you change your tune.

When I was saying you guys were asking an unrealistic amount I was a heretic.

I'm glad some people have come to their senses though and you are precisely right, the lower the price goes the wider the distribution and the better overall it will be for the protocol in the long run.

The difference is that you were just posting lots of crap trying to convince everybody that Qora should cost less. Gorillajam on the contrary says that Qora's prices is ridiculously low at the moment, but it's good for distribution and if some kind hearts or just dumb people are willing to dump at that price it's totally fine.

[wizzardTim]

I bought 5 million from TOYJJWGS for 3BTC using escrow 2 days before and now after resyncing they are gone!

What can i do? Hope he resends them

It's awful. Dev should fix blockchain fork issue ASAP!
Exchange withdrawals, deposits and p2p trading could be stopped until this issue will be resolved.

I would call it awful only if wizzardTim reported that TOYJJWGS was not willing to resend...  the 5M QORA is still in TOYJJWGS wallet...  all he/she needs to do is resend to complete the trade.

Still got no answer back. I start to worry..

All of us: me, seek4dream(escrow) and TOYJJWGS were on a fork during the trade.

He was online again and he didnt answer to my PMs or seek4dream PM.

I'm sad cause I bought again from him in the past without any issue.

If anyone could help me get my 5 million, I can give him 2 millions back.

[TwinWinNerD]

I bought 5 million from TOYJJWGS for 3BTC using escrow 2 days before and now after resyncing they are gone!

What can i do? Hope he resends them

It's awful. Dev should fix blockchain fork issue ASAP!
Exchange withdrawals, deposits and p2p trading could be stopped until this issue will be resolved.

I would call it awful only if wizzardTim reported that TOYJJWGS was not willing to resend...  the 5M QORA is still in TOYJJWGS wallet...  all he/she needs to do is resend to complete the trade.

Still got no answer back. I start to worry..

All of us: me, seek4dream(escrow) and TOYJJWGS were on a fork during the trade.

He was online again and he didnt answer to my PMs or seek4dream PM.

I'm sad cause I bought again from him in the past without any issue.

If anyone could help me get my 5 million, I can give him 2 millions back.

Hey TIM, I will make him send you the 5 million. Please PM me the address you want the funds sent to.

[seek4dream]

I bought 5 million from TOYJJWGS for 3BTC using escrow 2 days before and now after resyncing they are gone!

What can i do? Hope he resends them

It's awful. Dev should fix blockchain fork issue ASAP!
Exchange withdrawals, deposits and p2p trading could be stopped until this issue will be resolved.

I would call it awful only if wizzardTim reported that TOYJJWGS was not willing to resend...  the 5M QORA is still in TOYJJWGS wallet...  all he/she needs to do is resend to complete the trade.

Still got no answer back. I start to worry..

All of us: me, seek4dream(escrow) and TOYJJWGS were on a fork during the trade.

He was online again and he didnt answer to my PMs or seek4dream PM.

I'm sad cause I bought again from him in the past without any issue.

If anyone could help me get my 5 million, I can give him 2 millions back.

Hey TIM, I will make him send you the 5 million. Please PM me the address you want the funds sent to.

That would be great. I PMed TOYJJWGS many times, but got no response either.

[TwinWinNerD]

I bought 5 million from TOYJJWGS for 3BTC using escrow 2 days before and now after resyncing they are gone!

What can i do? Hope he resends them

It's awful. Dev should fix blockchain fork issue ASAP!
Exchange withdrawals, deposits and p2p trading could be stopped until this issue will be resolved.

I would call it awful only if wizzardTim reported that TOYJJWGS was not willing to resend...  the 5M QORA is still in TOYJJWGS wallet...  all he/she needs to do is resend to complete the trade.

Still got no answer back. I start to worry..

All of us: me, seek4dream(escrow) and TOYJJWGS were on a fork during the trade.

He was online again and he didnt answer to my PMs or seek4dream PM.

I'm sad cause I bought again from him in the past without any issue.

If anyone could help me get my 5 million, I can give him 2 millions back.

Hey TIM, I will make him send you the 5 million. Please PM me the address you want the funds sent to.

That would be great. I PMed TOYJJWGS many times, but got no response either.

I know all chinese Altcoin-investors. If he doesn't want his reputation totally ruined he will sent. I contacted him.