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February 07, 2023, 08:38:13 PM
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For the Coupe de France, I think you are right. Christophe Galtier may bench some of his main players to stay fit against Monaco at the weekend, and that too in an effort to prevent injury to his main players. I know the Coupe de France is important, but Ligue 1 and the Champions League are more important. But if PSG struggle to get goals, then I think this main player maybe you get minutes to try to win the match. The match against Marseille will be held in the next 2 days at the Vélodrome Stadium.

The main goal of PSG management is to perform well in the Champions League by any means. They can avoid the Ligue 1 and French Cup titles for the Champions League title. And so Galtier will not field his full-strength squad against Marseille and Monaco. He may rest key players in his squad, or allow them to play 45 minutes. But I don't think Galtier will rest his key players completely in these two games. Then they will lose both matches. So my guess is that Messi and Mbappe will probably be on the pitch for 45-60 minutes.

Obviously this is a difficult situation for PSG, making several rotations also I think the rotations will not be optimal. Considering that the opponents that PSG will face in the near future are rival teams who will certainly have high prestige, so PSG will still be targeting a win or at least a draw.
I personally don't think PSG will give up the Ligue 1 title and also the Coupe de France, because with the luxurious squad that PSG has, at least PSG is required to be able to win many titles.

Paris SG already wins trophies in France. Everyone's expectation is that this team, which is one of the teams with the best squad in Europe, can reach the finals at UCL. But they are in a dangerous position right now, even in League 1. Still, I think they will win League 1 easily. What I'm really curious about will be their UCL performance.
Paris SG truly posses the caliber of players that would have gotten them the European champions league by now but due to hard luck and so many other factors the dream of possessing the champions league has always been a failure each year they try. But for them securing the french league,  i feel wont be a problem, its just like they are on constant payroll when it comes to winning their league. I don't think any team in that league can challenge psg for the league @monaco@marseille e.t.c

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February 07, 2023, 11:16:03 PM
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For bookmakers, everything was more or less obvious:

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The bookmakers give an incredibly generous 1.93 (assuming Marseille is really strong), but I guess I fold   Cheesy

Although they would hardly give 4.40 if they knew how the game would end  Grin
And I do not believe that there can be any escalation of the fight for the title - PSG's competitors are too weak even if PSG is removed - no one team can dominate the rest. In such conditions, they only take away points from each other, increasing PSG's advantage even more.

What you describe is what makes Ligue 1 extremely unattractive to constantly follow. Most of the other national leagues have at least two competitors that are able to deliver each other a real fight. But even then with just two teams it can get boring quickly when only one of those two teams starts to struggle - see Primera Division right now. I think that is why the Premier League is the most interesting even though it had been dominated by Manchester City and Liverpool in a certain sense for some time. But everyone knew that those times could easily change anytime.

In France I just can't see how that is going to change anytime soon. If any club were on the rise with a couple of superstars threatening PSG's position, PSG would just open their wallet and buy those superstars or any other club would buy them and they would certainly leave Ligue 1. Mbappe is a great example for that. I thin a couple of years ago hardly one would have thought that we would get to see Messi, Mbappe, Neymar, Hakimi, Donnaruma, etc. playing in Ligue 1.

Now that it is the case, the only chance to increase competition in Ligue 1 is probably when another sheikh is trying to build a Newcastle 2.0 in France. 

In fact, there is another option to get things done, but it will not be implemented. If you forbid PSG to spend more than they earn (actually earn and not under contracts with Qatari laundering offices), then this club will be blown away in one season and the players will scatter to other leagues. And the championship will immediately become more interesting - after all, even now, if we remove PSG, we see a kaleidoscope of teams that replace each other at the top and, in general, there is a fierce struggle where it is impossible to predict the winner.

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February 07, 2023, 11:23:18 PM
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Paris SG truly posses the caliber of players that would have gotten them the European champions league by now but due to hard luck and so many other factors the dream of possessing the champions league has always been a failure each year they try. But for them securing the french league,  i feel wont be a problem, its just like they are on constant payroll when it comes to winning their league. I don't think any team in that league can challenge psg for the league @monaco@marseille e.t.c
The problem for the Champions League looks like this season will remain the same as before with them failing in the knockout stages.
The loss of Mbappe's loss now will definitely have a big impact on them in the match. Even though there are still many other players, Mbappe's role is clearly difficult to replace.
As for Ligue 1, I don't think this needs to be discussed anymore because they will be the winners again.

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February 08, 2023, 01:37:19 AM
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Obviously this is a difficult situation for PSG, making several rotations also I think the rotations will not be optimal. Considering that the opponents that PSG will face in the near future are rival teams who will certainly have high prestige, so PSG will still be targeting a win or at least a draw.
I personally don't think PSG will give up the Ligue 1 title and also the Coupe de France, because with the luxurious squad that PSG has, at least PSG is required to be able to win many titles.
Without Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, I believe PSG is an ordinary team on par with Lens, Monaco or Marseille. There's nothing special about PSG without the three superstars, so don't think too much about PSG as luxury team when these three are absent and you can expect defeat at any time.
I don't think so. Neymar and mbappe has been coming to the PSG around 2017 - 2018. Meanwhile, PSG has been consistently winning the league 1 since 2012. If you were thinking PSG as an ordinary club and you're wrong. PSG has been doing so well before it was being acquired by Nasser Al-Khelaïfi.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Saint-Germain_F.C.

I don't think PSG are really strong without all the star players in defence, midfield or striker. Not all players have average quality at PSG, but the three superstars currently owned by PSG have made the PSG squad look luxurious. So PSG may still fail in the French Cup, while they may also fail in Ligue 1 and the Champions League more easily without their three superstars.
Even PSG can't even win UCL with all of its superstars. You shall remember winning UCL is not an easy task. You will be facing so many biggest clubs from another league. The competition is really strict. That's why PSG is so difficult to win it even with great players.

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February 08, 2023, 01:43:15 AM
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Paris SG already wins trophies in France. Everyone's expectation is that this team, which is one of the teams with the best squad in Europe, can reach the finals at UCL. But they are in a dangerous position right now, even in League 1. Still, I think they will win League 1 easily. What I'm really curious about will be their UCL performance.
PSG are the favorites to win the Ligue 1 title every season, but they can still fall short in different seasons due to stiff competition from other teams. This season things are not as easy as most people think about PSG, because they have to fight hard to win matches and avoid more draws. I mean lot of Ligue 1 teams have learned about how to stop PSG who usually dominate the game, and by strengthening the defense then draw can be expected as PSG struggle to score goals.

The proof is, PSG has suffered 2 defeats and 3 draws in 22 matches this season. I tend to think it's getting harder for PSG to win every match even though they are favorites, that's because some of their players have been injured. Neymar and Mbappe are important players and when they are injured PSG look very dull.

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February 08, 2023, 02:49:16 AM
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PSG are the favorites to win the Ligue 1 title every season, but they can still fall short in different seasons due to stiff competition from other teams. This season things are not as easy as most people think about PSG, because they have to fight hard to win matches and avoid more draws. I mean lot of Ligue 1 teams have learned about how to stop PSG who usually dominate the game, and by strengthening the defense then draw can be expected as PSG struggle to score goals.
Problems with PSG come from themselves. With too many international star players, they are so sensitive with impacts from FIFA virus after FIFA days. World Cup 2022 surely has impacted PSG performance recent weeks.

With their ambition and obsession to win Champions League, a first cup there in their club history, they are ready to sacrifice Ligue 1. Winning one or few more Ligue 1 titles don't make their history better too much but winning a first Champions League will change PSG history. And they are fighting and reserving best resources for Champions League to achieve it. Especially in this season, they have best version of Messi since his free transfer from Barcelona.

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The proof is, PSG has suffered 2 defeats and 3 draws in 22 matches this season. I tend to think it's getting harder for PSG to win every match even though they are favorites, that's because some of their players have been injured. Neymar and Mbappe are important players and when they are injured PSG look very dull.
It is not too bad but 2 defeats and 3 draws after a little bit more than a half of season is a warning signal for them. They must correct their carelessness and weakness to avoid risk of losing Ligue 1. Honestly I think even with their alternative team, they should be able to win Ligue 1 too. Their club have many star players from main squad to alternative team and are able to win the league.

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February 08, 2023, 04:18:35 AM
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For bookmakers, everything was more or less obvious:

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1.93 - 3.05 - 4.40

The bookmakers give an incredibly generous 1.93 (assuming Marseille is really strong), but I guess I fold   Cheesy

Although they would hardly give 4.40 if they knew how the game would end  Grin
And I do not believe that there can be any escalation of the fight for the title - PSG's competitors are too weak even if PSG is removed - no one team can dominate the rest. In such conditions, they only take away points from each other, increasing PSG's advantage even more.

What you describe is what makes Ligue 1 extremely unattractive to constantly follow. Most of the other national leagues have at least two competitors that are able to deliver each other a real fight. But even then with just two teams it can get boring quickly when only one of those two teams starts to struggle - see Primera Division right now. I think that is why the Premier League is the most interesting even though it had been dominated by Manchester City and Liverpool in a certain sense for some time. But everyone knew that those times could easily change anytime.

In France I just can't see how that is going to change anytime soon. If any club were on the rise with a couple of superstars threatening PSG's position, PSG would just open their wallet and buy those superstars or any other club would buy them and they would certainly leave Ligue 1. Mbappe is a great example for that. I thin a couple of years ago hardly one would have thought that we would get to see Messi, Mbappe, Neymar, Hakimi, Donnaruma, etc. playing in Ligue 1.

Now that it is the case, the only chance to increase competition in Ligue 1 is probably when another sheikh is trying to build a Newcastle 2.0 in France. 

In fact, there is another option to get things done, but it will not be implemented. If you forbid PSG to spend more than they earn (actually earn and not under contracts with Qatari laundering offices), then this club will be blown away in one season and the players will scatter to other leagues. And the championship will immediately become more interesting - after all, even now, if we remove PSG, we see a kaleidoscope of teams that replace each other at the top and, in general, there is a fierce struggle where it is impossible to predict the winner.

Right and it kind of shows that the Ligue 1 is just relatively unattractive for some reason. I don't know whether it is just bad management by the national association and how they market soccer as a product, but after all this also shows that Ligue 1 is fighting with a problem where both sides of the coin are bad. If they allow some sheikh to spend money like crazy, they can get players like Neymar, Messi and Mbappe and make the league more attractive for people. However, it is going to be as one-sided as it is now and, hence, kind of boring. If, as you say, they force PSG to earn more than or as much as they spend, the cub will be blown away, no superstars will be playing in Ligue 1 and desperate the competition for the title being more fierce, the league is kind of boring again.

The only way to get out of this hamster wheel is probably to have more sheikhs or oligarchs invest more money into more French clubs. But that is not a very great idea either.

It kind of seems that national league rankings within Europe in terms of attractiveness are kind of set in stone. It is unrealistic to believe that the Premier League could lose the number 1 spot anytime soon. The first time when I noticed that a national league could really lose some of its prestige was when the rivalry of Ronaldo vs. Messi and Madrid vs. Barcelona fell apart in a sense when many players of that era stopped playing for those clubs and, additionally, Atletico Madrid also started to massively decline.

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February 08, 2023, 05:17:16 AM
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They will face the mighty PSG in the next match. I am waiting for this match. Marseille's defense is strong. It is no surprise that they can resist the PSG team. I think in this match, the chance of winning is almost the same for both teams.
yes, Marseille does have a pretty good defense. but with the 1-3 defeat to Nice, it seems that it means nothing now. Marseille lost in a strategic battle with Nice who played more effectively.
before facing PSG, maybe Marseille should evaluate their game against Nice. Dominant game and also has a lot of opportunities. but not able to make a lot of goals. of course, there is something wrong with Marseille's current front line.

Marseille lost against Nice due to some tactical errors. Marseille's overall performance was not bad. They played very well. But they focused more on attack leaving the defense unguarded. And that's why Nice had the chance to score from the counterattack. I don't think Marseille will do such a stupid thing against PSG either. Marseille will definitely keep their defense strong against PSG. Because they know very well that PSG's attack is very strong.

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February 08, 2023, 09:34:00 AM
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They will face the mighty PSG in the next match. I am waiting for this match. Marseille's defense is strong. It is no surprise that they can resist the PSG team. I think in this match, the chance of winning is almost the same for both teams.
yes, Marseille does have a pretty good defense. but with the 1-3 defeat to Nice, it seems that it means nothing now. Marseille lost in a strategic battle with Nice who played more effectively.
before facing PSG, maybe Marseille should evaluate their game against Nice. Dominant game and also has a lot of opportunities. but not able to make a lot of goals. of course, there is something wrong with Marseille's current front line.

Marseille lost against Nice due to some tactical errors. Marseille's overall performance was not bad. They played very well. But they focused more on attack leaving the defense unguarded. And that's why Nice had the chance to score from the counterattack. I don't think Marseille will do such a stupid thing against PSG either. Marseille will definitely keep their defense strong against PSG. Because they know very well that PSG's attack is very strong.

They had many goal attempts in this match but their forwarders wasn't really efficient, from 22 goal attempts only 4 on goal and they scored one time while nice had 14 attempts and 8 on goal leading to score 3 goals, i think the trophy for Marseille this year is already impossible

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February 08, 2023, 09:37:02 AM
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PSG definitely looks like the winners again, yeah I know Mbappe is missing and many are putting that as reason to lose points here, but I agree with luckmcfly, this is a game PSG could easily win. Messi has beaten these type of easy games all by himself before, and maybe he is older now and may not do it all by himself, but he is still a huge force that could bring a win and him getting that time with Neymar? That's going to be easy win for them unless something changes.

Plus, we should stop acting as if the only good players in PSG are Messi-Neymar-Mbappe trio, they have plenty other good players, all the way starting from goalkeeper to defense to midfield, they are all good.

If Neymar, Messi and Mbappe are taken away from PSG now, this will affect the team to a large extent, because the whole attack is now built on them. And Mbappe has become a very important player for PSG, his absence can be felt. Of course each of them is very strong individually and can score goals, let's see how they play against Marseille. So far, it is known that Mbappe will miss about three weeks, this is not so much, he will just have time to miss football. )
But why should Neymar, Mbappe and Messi be taken away from Psg at the first place. Are they not players of the club. In as much as football is a team work, there are star player(s) in every team. For instance if Vinicius Junior and Benzema is taken out of Madrid how do you think Madrid squad will be?
Only Mane that left Liverpool, have you seen the havoc it has caused?

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February 08, 2023, 09:44:57 AM
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The proof is, PSG has suffered 2 defeats and 3 draws in 22 matches this season. I tend to think it's getting harder for PSG to win every match even though they are favorites, that's because some of their players have been injured. Neymar and Mbappe are important players and when they are injured PSG look very dull.
Even if psg do not have any player injured all season it is almost impossible for them to win every match in Ligue 1, a team can be favorite, but it does not mean that they are going to win every match they play, it is the same thing in other leagues, they will only lose a few matches just as psg is doing, but it is impossible for them to win every game.

This season is a bit tough for psg, and it would have been tougher if Lens and Marseille continued to be consistent, but recently they haven't been consistent, and they are losing points, while psg is increasing their advantage. Psg are going to win the Ligue 1, but it is because of the inconsistency of their challengers for the title.

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February 08, 2023, 10:50:50 AM
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They had many goal attempts in this match but their forwarders wasn't really efficient, from 22 goal attempts only 4 on goal and they scored one time while nice had 14 attempts and 8 on goal leading to score 3 goals, i think the trophy for Marseille this year is already impossible
The Ligue1 trophy for this season is still very likely to be owned by PSG and I am very unsure for other teams in Ligue1 apart from PSG in terms of having a trophy this season. Marseille will still be followed by Lens and Monaco this season if they are not consistent enough in the remaining matches this season, because the three of them will compete for a better place besides the top of the standings which will continue to be occupied by PSG until the end of the season.

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February 08, 2023, 11:15:13 AM
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Obviously this is a difficult situation for PSG, making several rotations also I think the rotations will not be optimal. Considering that the opponents that PSG will face in the near future are rival teams who will certainly have high prestige, so PSG will still be targeting a win or at least a draw.
I personally don't think PSG will give up the Ligue 1 title and also the Coupe de France, because with the luxurious squad that PSG has, at least PSG is required to be able to win many titles.
In the end it will be the same as them having to be knocked out of the Champions League again it seems.
PSG's condition without a player of Mbappe's caliber when facing Bayern was clearly a disaster. Even though in this case they will still be very strong and cannot be underestimated, but with the current conditions it is clear that they will be eliminated no matter how they carry out the scheme.

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February 08, 2023, 11:30:33 AM
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In the end it will be the same as them having to be knocked out of the Champions League again it seems.
PSG's condition without a player of Mbappe's caliber when facing Bayern was clearly a disaster. Even though in this case they will still be very strong and cannot be underestimated, but with the current conditions it is clear that they will be eliminated no matter how they carry out the scheme.
Haha, I still remember the words "Champions League Champion's DNA" which was given to AC Milan when making fun of Juventus fans, because Milan often won the UCL. Maybe, for a team that doesn't have championship DNA, no matter how good the team they have, they won't win. PSG had several chances but they failed. We'll see, if this time it will still be the same result as you said, if PSG will lose, or they are going to Final but not win the UCL, maybe PSG doesnt have UCL Champions DNA  Grin Grin
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February 08, 2023, 12:34:03 PM
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Obviously this is a difficult situation for PSG, making several rotations also I think the rotations will not be optimal. Considering that the opponents that PSG will face in the near future are rival teams who will certainly have high prestige, so PSG will still be targeting a win or at least a draw.
I personally don't think PSG will give up the Ligue 1 title and also the Coupe de France, because with the luxurious squad that PSG has, at least PSG is required to be able to win many titles.
Without Neymar, Messi and Mbappe, I believe PSG is an ordinary team on par with Lens, Monaco or Marseille. There's nothing special about PSG without the three superstars, so don't think too much about PSG as luxury team when these three are absent and you can expect defeat at any time.

I don't think PSG are really strong without all the star players in defence, midfield or striker. Not all players have average quality at PSG, but the three superstars currently owned by PSG have made the PSG squad look luxurious. So PSG may still fail in the French Cup, while they may also fail in Ligue 1 and the Champions League more easily without their three superstars.
I see why you say PSG can't fight without Neymar, Messi, and Mbappe. Few players carry most teams. PSG played the French Cup, Ligue 1, and Champions League without these three players. PSG has several great players who can produce under pressure even without its superstars. PSG won the 2020 Champions League without Neymar. PSG can win titles without its three superstars. PSG can win.

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February 08, 2023, 01:02:39 PM
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Marseille have a potential to beat PSG as well. 2.71 is a pretty nice odd to bet on in my opinion. PSG have more important affairs to attend to. Besides Neymar and Mbappe both are injured as it seems. Marseille have a great chance ahead to eliminate the biggest threat in the tournament.
PSG probably will do some rotation for this match considering they have tight schedules because this weekend PSG have to fight against Monaco in Ligue 1 and after that they have to faced Bayern Munich in champion league and i will assume this match will not so important for PSG because they will giving priority to the matches which i mentioned above

The opposite condition for Marseille that this weekend they only face Clermont and Marseille also will not playing at european competitions because they have already to eliminate so they will be more ready to faced this match moreover Marseille doesn't have injured issue such as PSG and probably Marseille will be able to beat PSG this time

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February 08, 2023, 01:40:28 PM
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Marseille have a potential to beat PSG as well. 2.71 is a pretty nice odd to bet on in my opinion. PSG have more important affairs to attend to. Besides Neymar and Mbappe both are injured as it seems. Marseille have a great chance ahead to eliminate the biggest threat in the tournament.

I think that im gonna take marseille in the upcoming match rather than PSG. I doubt if this time PSG can perform so well against marseille due to the new accusation for PSG.

That accusation may disrupt the concentration of the players. Messi will become the only player that may be a savior for PSG. Marseille has been getting bad result last match. This is the hardest thing to determine caused by PSG and marseille were competing with each other.

Risking money to pick PSG is worthy enough. I may change my mind. Cheesy


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February 08, 2023, 04:13:28 PM
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PSG probably will do some rotation for this match considering they have tight schedules because this weekend PSG have to fight against Monaco in Ligue 1 and after that they have to faced Bayern Munich in champion league and i will assume this match will not so important for PSG because they will giving priority to the matches which i mentioned above

The opposite condition for Marseille that this weekend they only face Clermont and Marseille also will not playing at european competitions because they have already to eliminate so they will be more ready to faced this match moreover Marseille doesn't have injured issue such as PSG and probably Marseille will be able to beat PSG this time

If I refer to the predicted line-up that Galtier will play. Galtier will install a 4-3-1-2 formation, pairing Messi and Neymar and Vitinha as a playmaker. but by the way, this is just a prediction of the line-up Galtier will use. however, it is very likely that Galtier will rotate some of his players because as we know that PSG has a pretty busy schedule. maybe, Galtier chose to rest Neymar and prefer the option of playing Ekitike. Galtier is more focused on Ligue 1, specifically the Champions League.

On the other hand, if PSG does not play one of its stars in this match. I mean Neymar, then Marseille will take advantage of this condition to win the match against PSG. after all, Marseille doesn't have such a tight schedule. especially in the next two weeks, the opponents that Marseille will face are not too tough.

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February 08, 2023, 05:21:27 PM
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Match between Monaco and psg, psg has been confirmed as the most superior club in the France Major league but we always see this team cutting off the expectation of their fans, PSG is placed very high in a manner that even they are to loss it shouldn't be to amateur clubs but this is what we see in the case of PSG, this match between this two rivals is going to be tough but the better side is going to take the other of the day.
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February 08, 2023, 05:26:25 PM
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Marseille have a potential to beat PSG as well. 2.71 is a pretty nice odd to bet on in my opinion. PSG have more important affairs to attend to. Besides Neymar and Mbappe both are injured as it seems. Marseille have a great chance ahead to eliminate the biggest threat in the tournament.

I think that im gonna take marseille in the upcoming match rather than PSG. I doubt if this time PSG can perform so well against marseille due to the new accusation for PSG.

That accusation may disrupt the concentration of the players. Messi will become the only player that may be a savior for PSG. Marseille has been getting bad result last match. This is the hardest thing to determine caused by PSG and marseille were competing with each other.

Risking money to pick PSG is worthy enough. I may change my mind. Cheesy


PSG has been in a bad form lately because of Mbappe and Neymar injury. Even in the last match against Tolouse, the winning was quite a difficult one. It may be difficult for PSG to accept defeat from Marseille but Betting on Marseille to win against PSG at this moment is quite a good risk to take because in their last clash, PSG was able to escape with just a goal and that can really tell how challenging the match was, even with Neymar, mbappe and Messi on the pitch.

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