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February 15, 2022, 09:53:24 AM |
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Scam site will keep scamming, these campaign participants are lucky because until now they are being paid, but once that this site decide to run ? surely all of this campaign participants will surely cry and blame this site from taking their payments with them .
Participants are receiving weekly payment so if one participant participated for 10 weeks and got one or two weeks unpaid he'll still be happy he is in this campaign, but if this campaign suddenly become a monthly payout campaign, participants will have a second thought of joining it's like risking a whole month of effort, hopefully, the admin will have a change of mind and make this a monthly payout or better every 3 months Well we must admit that we are all here to make some bucks , but of course it is also depend in our stand in life and status. Yeah i am willing to post for money but i will never sell my credibility just because of money , i would rather have no campaign than advertising this kind of site. but of course everyone has their own preferences . The problem here is that you will have to make a hard choice one days about whether to believe those posting guys or DYOR. That's always a tough choice, I think. and yet those shills choose the wrong way and that is to promote and depend scammers , but don't wanna admit that reality . hypocrite type of people but who can blame them? they are being paid of decent amount when their account is completely trash and no legit campaigns that will hire them.
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sparky90
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February 15, 2022, 10:31:00 AM |
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I don't think 1xbit deserves all that negativity. Verification of my account took 4-5 days, but that's the only negative thing I can say about them. My requested withdrawals were all paid out within 30 minutes with no issues:
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February 15, 2022, 10:41:19 AM |
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I think there may be a misunderstanding about "pending" accusations. 1xbit claims to have answered all issues on Bitcointalk. Without a specific example, that you are talking about, it's hard for me to comment, because maybe 1xbit answer was negative and the user does not agree. I think it would be best if you show some example, then we would have a better picture of the situation.
Do you really think that anyone here is gullible enough to actually believe the excuses that 1xbit comes up with on a regular basis to defend themselves? Absolutely hilarious. Also, you are echoing the same crap that other shills keep stating repeatedly(Asking for proof when there is already a shit-ton of proof available etc). I don't think I have seen a single shill come up with a valid argument to defend 1xbit so far. I don't think we understood each other. I'm not asking for any evidence because I guess you don't have any. I also have no evidence. My point is that I can't really relate to what you wrote, because it's too general statement. I think if you could give a specific example and we will discuss it, then we would have a better picture of the situation.
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ekopas3
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February 15, 2022, 03:45:06 PM |
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STILL NO ANSWER!!! I do not know where to start with my problem on 1xbit and asking for help here on bitcointalk forum I made a $ 760 deposit on my account 377087449 in crypto, and started playing. I was losing something, I was gaining something, but I had less than $ 760 in crypto on my account. I urgently needed money to withdraw and I made a withdrawal. But the horror started when I squeezed to withdraw the money. They were logged out of my account, and I could not log in with my username or email and password. Then I contacted livechat, and they instructed me to send an email to security of 1xbit. I sent an email with my problem and with my proof that I have an account with pictures. After 5 hours, they replied: "We want to inform you, that our company decided to stop any collaboration with you (closing your account). The decision was made after a careful investigation of the situation by our security service. The decision is based on a violation of the Terms and Conditions. ". I could not believe that they wrote this to me, without any explanation. I tried to log in to my account again, but to no avail. I then sent a message to Support of 1xbit, and they returned this: "Dear User, All information has been provided to you by our Security Department. Further messages on the same issue will be ignored." Is this normal? So I have $ 730 in crypto on my account, how is it possible for them to stop cooperating with me without returning my deposited money? Is this a mistake or is it a total scam? Please help, I'm new here, I do not know what to do. This is my first 1xbit account and I'm betting there for the first time. I do not know what to do anymore, I'm crazy. Will I get my money back? Please help These are my proofs and pictures from my account before it was locked and I can no longer log in this is account number and full informations about my account: https://ibb.co/hKTPWPg , this is my deposit of money transaction: https://ibb.co/Nxr2fj8 , this is my try to withdraw and they cancel and block the login: https://ibb.co/88Mxc07And this is what support and security told me: security: https://ibb.co/qBPzg9b , support: https://ibb.co/bQBBz79All informations I sent to security and support and they don't wanat to help me. I asking just to withdraw my 730 usdt, it is smallest than my deposit of money. I am still in lose, but what they are doing to me? Why do this to me and not allow me login and withdraw my money who left on my account low than my deposit?
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ekopas3
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February 15, 2022, 07:28:26 PM |
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STILL NO ANSWER!!!
In the screenshots I can see you got an answer. Your account has been blocked due to violation of terms and conditions. I'm afraid that if after 20 attempts to ask the same question again and again, you haven't received an answer, you probably won't get it. Unfortunately, it looks like 1xbit just thinks there is no doubt about your case and nothing new will happen. VIOLATION TERMS AND CONDITIONS NOT MEANS THEY CAN STEAL MY DEPOSIT!!!!! Where is my deposit? why they take all my money? Why not giving me back my deposit?
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TwitchySeal
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February 15, 2022, 09:19:13 PM |
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I think there may be a misunderstanding about "pending" accusations. 1xbit claims to have answered all issues on Bitcointalk. Without a specific example, that you are talking about, it's hard for me to comment, because maybe 1xbit answer was negative and the user does not agree. I think it would be best if you show some example, then we would have a better picture of the situation.
Do you really think that anyone here is gullible enough to actually believe the excuses that 1xbit comes up with on a regular basis to defend themselves? Absolutely hilarious. Also, you are echoing the same crap that other shills keep stating repeatedly(Asking for proof when there is already a shit-ton of proof available etc). I don't think I have seen a single shill come up with a valid argument to defend 1xbit so far. I don't think we understood each other. I'm not asking for any evidence because I guess you don't have any. I also have no evidence. My point is that I can't really relate to what you wrote, because it's too general statement. I think if you could give a specific example and we will discuss it, then we would have a better picture of the situation. 1xbit pays you $100 a week. Unless that changes, I don't think any evidence would get you to openly admit that 1xbit is a scam casino. And even then, you would probably need to be paid by someone else to post anything at all. You are posting in this thread because they pay you. Not because you actually believe they aren't a scam, or because you want to be a part of the community, or because you have an interest in gambling, you're here because 1xbit is paying you. If they stopped paying you, you wouldn't post here anymore. You don't care that you are helping a scam casino scam other people, we know this because you we see you try to discredit the people 1xbit scams. You only care about the $100 a week 1xbit is paying you. Pathetic.
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February 16, 2022, 07:53:11 AM |
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I think there may be a misunderstanding about "pending" accusations. 1xbit claims to have answered all issues on Bitcointalk. Without a specific example, that you are talking about, it's hard for me to comment, because maybe 1xbit answer was negative and the user does not agree. I think it would be best if you show some example, then we would have a better picture of the situation.
Do you really think that anyone here is gullible enough to actually believe the excuses that 1xbit comes up with on a regular basis to defend themselves? Absolutely hilarious. Also, you are echoing the same crap that other shills keep stating repeatedly(Asking for proof when there is already a shit-ton of proof available etc). I don't think I have seen a single shill come up with a valid argument to defend 1xbit so far. I don't think we understood each other. I'm not asking for any evidence because I guess you don't have any. I also have no evidence. My point is that I can't really relate to what you wrote, because it's too general statement. I think if you could give a specific example and we will discuss it, then we would have a better picture of the situation. 1xbit pays you $100 a week. Unless that changes, I don't think any evidence would get you to openly admit that 1xbit is a scam casino. And even then, you would probably need to be paid by someone else to post anything at all. You are posting in this thread because they pay you. Not because you actually believe they aren't a scam, or because you want to be a part of the community, or because you have an interest in gambling, you're here because 1xbit is paying you. If they stopped paying you, you wouldn't post here anymore. You don't care that you are helping a scam casino scam other people, we know this because you we see you try to discredit the people 1xbit scams. You only care about the $100 a week 1xbit is paying you. Pathetic. Every user has the right to express their opinion about a gambling site. And the arguments are quite reasonable. We have seen a lot of players in the past who were out to take money from the casino in an illegal way. Then I don't think it's the intention to hand out a negative tag for that reason. I've been reading more positive stories and reviews about 1xbit lately. But the 1xbit haters don't want to read that because they aren't happy with it. Talking about payments, I am sure sportsbet pays you much more than 100$ a week to promote them. So, do you think that those accusations are baseless? I mean do those guys complaining about the website have reasons to do that, or they simply try to sink this ship?
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February 16, 2022, 08:16:31 AM |
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I think there may be a misunderstanding about "pending" accusations. 1xbit claims to have answered all issues on Bitcointalk. Without a specific example, that you are talking about, it's hard for me to comment, because maybe 1xbit answer was negative and the user does not agree. I think it would be best if you show some example, then we would have a better picture of the situation.
Do you really think that anyone here is gullible enough to actually believe the excuses that 1xbit comes up with on a regular basis to defend themselves? Absolutely hilarious. Also, you are echoing the same crap that other shills keep stating repeatedly(Asking for proof when there is already a shit-ton of proof available etc). I don't think I have seen a single shill come up with a valid argument to defend 1xbit so far. I don't think we understood each other. I'm not asking for any evidence because I guess you don't have any. I also have no evidence. My point is that I can't really relate to what you wrote, because it's too general statement. I think if you could give a specific example and we will discuss it, then we would have a better picture of the situation. 1xbit pays you $100 a week. Unless that changes, I don't think any evidence would get you to openly admit that 1xbit is a scam casino. And even then, you would probably need to be paid by someone else to post anything at all. You are posting in this thread because they pay you. Not because you actually believe they aren't a scam, or because you want to be a part of the community, or because you have an interest in gambling, you're here because 1xbit is paying you. If they stopped paying you, you wouldn't post here anymore. You don't care that you are helping a scam casino scam other people, we know this because you we see you try to discredit the people 1xbit scams. You only care about the $100 a week 1xbit is paying you. Pathetic. Every user has the right to express their opinion about a gambling site. And the arguments are quite reasonable. We have seen a lot of players in the past who were out to take money from the casino in an illegal way. Then I don't think it's the intention to hand out a negative tag for that reason. I've been reading more positive stories and reviews about 1xbit lately. But the 1xbit haters don't want to read that because they aren't happy with it. Talking about payments, I am sure sportsbet pays you much more than 100$ a week to promote them. can you show something good that this scam site is doing? what I see to this day is that they are extremely cruel people, there are times when we need to look in the mirror and ask ourselves: What if I were in the shoes of that person who lost money on this scam site? If I had 100$ and I played on this site and I won 400$ and at the time of withdrawing the 400$ I could not withdraw even though I needed 100$ urgently, how would I feel? will it be peaceful? calm and forget the money on the scam site? look in the mirror and ask yourself this...it is unacceptable that some casino is withholding money from many people, do you think that if it were in the real world this casino would do that? they wouldn't do that in the real world because would be afraid of government laws, would be afraid of being confiscated license, closed and answering in court or being arrested
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February 16, 2022, 08:20:13 AM |
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I think there may be a misunderstanding about "pending" accusations. 1xbit claims to have answered all issues on Bitcointalk. Without a specific example, that you are talking about, it's hard for me to comment, because maybe 1xbit answer was negative and the user does not agree. I think it would be best if you show some example, then we would have a better picture of the situation.
Do you really think that anyone here is gullible enough to actually believe the excuses that 1xbit comes up with on a regular basis to defend themselves? Absolutely hilarious. Also, you are echoing the same crap that other shills keep stating repeatedly(Asking for proof when there is already a shit-ton of proof available etc). I don't think I have seen a single shill come up with a valid argument to defend 1xbit so far. I don't think we understood each other. I'm not asking for any evidence because I guess you don't have any. I also have no evidence. My point is that I can't really relate to what you wrote, because it's too general statement. I think if you could give a specific example and we will discuss it, then we would have a better picture of the situation. 1xbit pays you $100 a week. Unless that changes, I don't think any evidence would get you to openly admit that 1xbit is a scam casino. And even then, you would probably need to be paid by someone else to post anything at all. You are posting in this thread because they pay you. Not because you actually believe they aren't a scam, or because you want to be a part of the community, or because you have an interest in gambling, you're here because 1xbit is paying you. If they stopped paying you, you wouldn't post here anymore. You don't care that you are helping a scam casino scam other people, we know this because you we see you try to discredit the people 1xbit scams. You only care about the $100 a week 1xbit is paying you. Pathetic. Every user has the right to express their opinion about a gambling site. And the arguments are quite reasonable. We have seen a lot of players in the past who were out to take money from the casino in an illegal way. Then I don't think it's the intention to hand out a negative tag for that reason. I've been reading more positive stories and reviews about 1xbit lately. But the 1xbit haters don't want to read that because they aren't happy with it. Talking about payments, I am sure sportsbet pays you much more than 100$ a week to promote them. Actually mate it is not about Haters of 1xbit and about not reading the Positive reviews about the site , instead this is all about how they are handling the problem about the claims of many players here. there is Only simple way that everything will be answered , and that is the team will show more proofs about their accusation to those players whom they said cheated in their site, because all they have is words but those victims has proofs and concrete evidence .
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February 16, 2022, 08:26:00 AM |
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ACCOUNT NUMBER: 305935409 1xbit not want to give me open my account because they blocked when i win something. i dont know the reason why they refuse to give me my money on the account beted on regular and there is no reason they hold my account frozen. This happening from june 27 and account is still blocked. i see so many posts about frozen account and there is no way to get back my funds to me? I really dont know who they block like that and hold the members money. Can someone help with my account to back my money i sent so many emails they not want even to back me email to me Sad i am so sad i have there crypto in around 510 euro in total. What to do ?! Why they not want to give me money after i win regular and i have never withdraw any money from my account This is something happening here, they blocking all accounts and never get you back?
3 months they refuse to give me answer or give me my money back. what is this ?
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February 16, 2022, 08:31:20 AM |
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I think there may be a misunderstanding about "pending" accusations. 1xbit claims to have answered all issues on Bitcointalk. Without a specific example, that you are talking about, it's hard for me to comment, because maybe 1xbit answer was negative and the user does not agree. I think it would be best if you show some example, then we would have a better picture of the situation.
Do you really think that anyone here is gullible enough to actually believe the excuses that 1xbit comes up with on a regular basis to defend themselves? Absolutely hilarious. Also, you are echoing the same crap that other shills keep stating repeatedly(Asking for proof when there is already a shit-ton of proof available etc). I don't think I have seen a single shill come up with a valid argument to defend 1xbit so far. I don't think we understood each other. I'm not asking for any evidence because I guess you don't have any. I also have no evidence. My point is that I can't really relate to what you wrote, because it's too general statement. I think if you could give a specific example and we will discuss it, then we would have a better picture of the situation. 1xbit pays you $100 a week. Unless that changes, I don't think any evidence would get you to openly admit that 1xbit is a scam casino. And even then, you would probably need to be paid by someone else to post anything at all. You are posting in this thread because they pay you. Not because you actually believe they aren't a scam, or because you want to be a part of the community, or because you have an interest in gambling, you're here because 1xbit is paying you. If they stopped paying you, you wouldn't post here anymore. You don't care that you are helping a scam casino scam other people, we know this because you we see you try to discredit the people 1xbit scams. You only care about the $100 a week 1xbit is paying you. Pathetic. Every user has the right to express their opinion about a gambling site. And the arguments are quite reasonable. We have seen a lot of players in the past who were out to take money from the casino in an illegal way. Then I don't think it's the intention to hand out a negative tag for that reason. I've been reading more positive stories and reviews about 1xbit lately. But the 1xbit haters don't want to read that because they aren't happy with it. Talking about payments, I am sure sportsbet pays you much more than 100$ a week to promote them. Actually mate it is not about Haters of 1xbit and about not reading the Positive reviews about the site , instead this is all about how they are handling the problem about the claims of many players here. there is Only simple way that everything will be answered , and that is the team will show more proofs about their accusation to those players whom they said cheated in their site, because all they have is words but those victims has proofs and concrete evidence . I agree with you partially, cause we will never be able to hear the other part of this dispute. I have never seen a casino or a bookie trying to whiten themselves by showing the proofs of a player breaking their rules. They simply say something like "There was a T&C rules breaking and all those things" like that. What we can see currently are the accusations of guys that show screenshots of their withdrawal blockages. But we know nothing about the reasons. And we will never know as I have already mentioned previously, that you would never meet a casino/bookie revealing such cases to the masses.
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February 16, 2022, 11:07:09 AM |
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Deposited funds should be returned. It has nothing to do with alleged or confirmed breaches of Terms of Service. 1xbit are not going to return any stolen funds back to any customers because they have to pay participant of the signature campaign as well as perpetuate the cycle that allows them to continue scamming. STILL NO ANSWER!!!
In the screenshots I can see you got an answer. Your account has been blocked due to violation of terms and conditions. I'm afraid that if after 20 attempts to ask the same question again and again, you haven't received an answer, you probably won't get it. Unfortunately, it looks like 1xbit just thinks there is no doubt about your case and nothing new will happen. VIOLATION TERMS AND CONDITIONS NOT MEANS THEY CAN STEAL MY DEPOSIT!!!!! Where is my deposit? why they take all my money? Why not giving me back my deposit?
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February 16, 2022, 11:36:41 AM |
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STILL NO ANSWER!!!
In the screenshots I can see you got an answer. Your account has been blocked due to violation of terms and conditions. I'm afraid that if after 20 attempts to ask the same question again and again, you haven't received an answer, you probably won't get it. Unfortunately, it looks like 1xbit just thinks there is no doubt about your case and nothing new will happen. VIOLATION TERMS AND CONDITIONS NOT MEANS THEY CAN STEAL MY DEPOSIT!!!!! Where is my deposit? why they take all my money? Why not giving me back my deposit? Trust me , they are expect on this one , promising something that they will in the end cancelled , in the past they commonly says they will return the deposit of the alleged cheater in their site but eventually? accusing them more by saying they have won or withdrawn in the past the amount and that is more than enough to what they have deposited . look how lying baboon this site is? Never play from this site or else all your money will be stolen .
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February 16, 2022, 11:39:41 AM |
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I don't think 1xbit deserves all that negativity. Verification of my account took 4-5 days, but that's the only negative thing I can say about them. My requested withdrawals were all paid out within 30 minutes with no issues.
You are one of the lucky ones. Some others weren't as lucky as you which is why they do deserve all of the negativity directed at them and more. 1 solved case doesn't magically restore their dreadful reputation. Every user has the right to express their opinion about a gambling site. And the arguments are quite reasonable.
This is where you messed up. Only a 1xbit shill thinks in this manner. The truth is that all of you shills are just trying your best to defend each other and 1xbit for obvious reasons. Don't bother explaining why that's not the case.
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February 16, 2022, 01:01:21 PM |
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Every user has the right to express their opinion about a gambling site. And the arguments are quite reasonable. We have seen a lot of players in the past who were out to take money from the casino in an illegal way. Then I don't think it's the intention to hand out a negative tag for that reason. The illegal way you're talking about is placing a bet on a line that 1xbit left up too long. Yes, they're taking advantage of 1xbits "mistake". When sportsbooks make mistakes, players take advantage. Any legitimate sportsbook would simply void the bet and move on. Instead, what 1xbit does is take the players entire balance, and then they continue to make that same "mistake" over and over. It's a scam. I've been reading more positive stories and reviews about 1xbit lately. But the 1xbit haters don't want to read that because they aren't happy with it. Talking about payments, I am sure sportsbet pays you much more than 100$ a week to promote them.
No amount of successful withdraws justify scamming even one player. And any scam casino that simply never paid out wouldn't last very long at all. 1xbit has been around for years, obviously they pay sometimes. Talking about payments, I am sure sportsbet pays you much more than 100$ a week to promote them.
No, I actually average less than $100 per week. I don't let the signature influence how often I post or what I post, so I rarely come close to the maximum number of posts they would pay me for. I've turned down multiple offers from casinos far mor trustworthy than 1xbit (lets face it, that's most casinos). I accepted sportsbets offer because they have a great reputation and I have been playing there without issue since the day they opened. If they ever started acting like 1xbit, the signature would be gone in a heartbeat. By the way, how did you feel when the last casino you shilled for, Adkinsbet, vanished over night with everyones money?
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February 16, 2022, 10:53:41 PM |
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I don't think 1xbit deserves all that negativity. Verification of my account took 4-5 days, but that's the only negative thing I can say about them. My requested withdrawals were all paid out within 30 minutes with no issues:
Shut the fuck up, then! The world doesn't rotate around you only. Do you know how many people have been scammed by 1xbit? Do you think you are the only person who has used the scam site? If you were lucky to get repaid even when your account was blocked for no reason, then you have no audacity to say that there's a lot of negativity about 1xbit because they are actually proven scammers.
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February 16, 2022, 11:44:50 PM |
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I don't think 1xbit deserves all that negativity. Verification of my account took 4-5 days, but that's the only negative thing I can say about them.
Great for you! Now, how exactly can this help countless others who have been scammed by this casino? Or potential new victims? In case you haven't noticed, 1xbit has been scamming gamblers long before you joined this community. And this "negativity," as you call it, is feedback from much more reputable members than you are. I am inclined to trust their opinion over yours.
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February 16, 2022, 11:48:43 PM |
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I don't think 1xbit deserves all that negativity. Verification of my account took 4-5 days, but that's the only negative thing I can say about them.
Great for you! Now, how exactly can this help countless others who have been scammed by this casino? Or potential new victims? In case you haven't noticed, 1xbit has been scamming gamblers long before you joined this community. And this "negativity," as you call it, is feedback from much more reputable members than you are. I am inclined to trust their opinion over yours. We've seen lots of complaints on this company and those feedbacks given were legitimate or which cant really be ignored.Of course they would be normally defending on the site that they are marketing on and some shill accounts or newbie who do suddenly post up on how legitimate this site is and telling that they hadnt able to encounter some problems but real things do really happen on this place.
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Slow death
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February 17, 2022, 11:31:21 AM |
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I don't think 1xbit deserves all that negativity. Verification of my account took 4-5 days, but that's the only negative thing I can say about them. My requested withdrawals were all paid out within 30 minutes with no issues:
Shut the fuck up, then! The world doesn't rotate around you only. Do you know how many people have been scammed by 1xbit? Do you think you are the only person who has used the scam site? If you were lucky to get repaid even when your account was blocked for no reason, then you have no audacity to say that there's a lot of negativity about 1xbit because they are actually proven scammers. Someone here seems to be full of frustration which can normally only be if you have played at the casino yourself. People keep going on about the negativity of 1xbit while I've delved into the matter myself and this Sparky has provided openness including his betting history and 1xbit just solved it anyway. It seems like a number of accounts only want to force negativity in instead of being realistic In addition, everyone is allowed to express their own opinion. What an aggressiveness of log files. You would almost believe that logfiles itself is actively playing at 1xbit. In any case, he is no longer rational. anyone would be annoyed seeing what these scam site are doing, I'm thinking of opening an account on this site and testing it so when they don't pay me I come complaining that they're a scam, I still don't have time to do that but I think of doing it who knows how to fly and all those who defend this scam site will start to give up on defending them
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msmin
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February 17, 2022, 01:12:41 PM |
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I don't think 1xbit deserves all that negativity. Verification of my account took 4-5 days, but that's the only negative thing I can say about them. My requested withdrawals were all paid out within 30 minutes with no issues:
Shut the fuck up, then! The world doesn't rotate around you only. Do you know how many people have been scammed by 1xbit? Do you think you are the only person who has used the scam site? If you were lucky to get repaid even when your account was blocked for no reason, then you have no audacity to say that there's a lot of negativity about 1xbit because they are actually proven scammers. Ohohoh, easy man, easy. He simply shares his experience. Why should we attack this guy? The world doesn't rotate around him, that's right. It does neither around me nor you. He simply says what he knows about. I think this is a useful experience as well. Anyway, let's stay polite towards others.
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