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Question: Who will be the champion in 2023/24 season?
Manchester City - 83 (45.1%)
Liverpool - 31 (16.8%)
Arsenal - 39 (21.2%)
Chelsea - 7 (3.8%)
Manchester United - 12 (6.5%)
Totenham - 7 (3.8%)
Newcastle - 2 (1.1%)
Other - 3 (1.6%)
Total Voters: 184

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June 26, 2023, 09:20:17 PM
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If you look at the material from the Chelsea players who arrived last season, I'm sure there have been good changes when Pochettino handled him. Pochettino throws away players he didn't buy and that's normal in my opinion. because this has also happened to Arsenal, Arteta has also thrown away Unai Emery's chosen players and almost all of them were thrown away, even though they were not sold directly, but they were slowly thrown away. Because when Arteta first became Arsenal coach he wasn't too good but he dared to overhaul young players plus a more efficient game system as the season progressed and finally entered the UCL zone again.
You seems not really understand about Chelsea current squad. They actually have luck quality players in some positions, especially for center-back and striker (CF). If Chelsea continues to sell their current players, they will have lack of players and may be not enough time to sign new players. In my opinion, it is better to keep the existing players and buy necessary players to complete the squad. Sure, Pochettino didn't sign any players in the current squad, but it doesn't mean he should throw those players. If he sell most Chelsea current players, he will have a big task to sign many new players. I'm sure it is not easy to sign new players, specifically top players that many other clubs are interested as well.


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June 26, 2023, 09:33:34 PM
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I think Chelsea has learned a lot from their mistakes which in this season consist of sacking quite some coaches and as such Pochettino to have the full trust of complete Chelsea management and board of directors.It is only natural for a coach to sell players which are not in his plan,meaning they will not fit in the scheme of how he will play and I am sure that Pochettino is knowledgeable enough to get the players he wants and also keep quite some of the good players from Chelsea to build a team that is capable of bringing good results for the fans.He did well in Tottenham so I only expect him to do better with Chelsea and I don't know the odd but I would even bet on Chelsea to win next season,just for fun,just 50 or 100 bucks.
to be honest, I'm not so sure about Pochettino whether he is able to provide consistency to his players and if I see it looks like Pochettino is looking for a mainstay striker but not sure who he will choose as a mainstay striker. but nevertheless I appreciate whatever Pochettino is doing to improve Chelsea's performance again after being knocked out last season which was very sad for Chelsea.
btw, you seem too sure of betting for Chelsea whereas we don't know if all Chelsea players can quickly adapt to the new coach and I suggest that you should at least see the first performance that Chelsea will show.
The problem of Chelsea started from the change of management, and when the new management took over the Chelsea Football Club, he did not study what was on ground very well and began to dismiss some officials who handled important rules in the Chelsea Football Club.

That umplanned dismissal of personnels affected the staffing of the club and whatever happens to the management will have to translate to what the boys play on the field.

Little did the management know that the problem was coming from them. They thought it was due to the incompetence of the coach.
Within a couple of months they changed three coaches and yet did not get a good result. I also did not expect pochettino to do some kind of wonders immediately and take Chelsea back to glory. We should expect that it will be a gradual process and Chelsea making the top 4 in next season's English Premier League is very doubtful.

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The problem of Chelsea started from the change of management, and when the new management took over the Chelsea Football Club, he did not study what was on ground very well and began to dismiss some officials who handled important rules in the Chelsea Football Club.
Exactly!!! You nailed it.
ain't nobody knows how best to manage Chelsea's current predicament better than the old Man. Chelsea was revamped and since then, alot of problems began.... Players lost Thier confidence and coaches were sacked for Thier incompetency - not even knowing that these players weren't being directed by a more experienced advisor like what was done previously.
Now, bringing pochettino isn't bad , but I'm afraid nothing's gonna Change if those ex players aren't contracted in Thier places - except maybe the old man has his way of maneuvering. For me, Chelsea still stands a Chance of being the worst team in premier league next season if nothing reasonable is done.

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June 26, 2023, 10:01:03 PM
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I would rather believe that United would get closer to City if they found a second Casemiro + two more KDB somewhere, but you yourself understand the unreality of such acquisitions.
I don't really agree with you here. I don't want to compare Debruyne and Fernandez but if you check Fernandez assist making and chance created in the past couple of years at Manchester United, the dude is not doing badly. KD is shining because he had/has good strikers around him like Kun Aguero, Gabriel Jesus and Erling Halaand, on the other hand since Fernandez signed for United, which quality striker has united got? A high profile signing like Kane, Osimhen might help to increase Fernandez's assist making stats as players like Martial and Weghorst's goal conversation rate are very poor.

It is difficult to theorize comparing players in team sports, but for example, before the arrival of Casemiro, Fernandes' success was more modest, although I do not deny that he is good, but still KDB is number one as a playmaker. The signing of a top striker (or better than two) will undoubtedly relieve the midfield, but I (as a United fan by the way) do not expect radical changes, I will be glad at least for some progress.

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June 26, 2023, 10:18:10 PM
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The problem of Chelsea started from the change of management, and when the new management took over the Chelsea Football Club, he did not study what was on ground very well and began to dismiss some officials who handled important rules in the Chelsea Football Club.
Exactly!!! You nailed it.
ain't nobody knows how best to manage Chelsea's current predicament better than the old Man. Chelsea was revamped and since then, alot of problems began.... Players lost Thier confidence and coaches were sacked for Thier incompetency - not even knowing that these players weren't being directed by a more experienced advisor like what was done previously.
Now, bringing pochettino isn't bad , but I'm afraid nothing's gonna Change if those ex players aren't contracted in Thier places - except maybe the old man has his way of maneuvering. For me, Chelsea still stands a Chance of being the worst team in premier league next season if nothing reasonable is done.

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That is exactly the problem that happened to Manchester United. Although in the case of Manchester United there was no change of management but the glazers family were very much involved in the signing of players, which is supposed to be the duty of the coach to know the kind of players they will bring to the club.
For instance, Ole didn't endorse and know when Cristiano Ronaldo was signed for Manchester United. It was all effected by the management and ex boys of Manchester United.
So if Chelsea really want Poch  to do well for them, he should be given the exclusive right to make choices of the players he will sign and be allowed to manage them.

If the management does not totally remove their hands it will be difficult for Chelsea, especially now small clubs are funding to become big club, example, Newcastle United

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June 26, 2023, 10:22:53 PM
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to be honest, I'm not so sure about Pochettino whether he is able to provide consistency to his players and if I see it looks like Pochettino is looking for a mainstay striker but not sure who he will choose as a mainstay striker. but nevertheless I appreciate whatever Pochettino is doing to improve Chelsea's performance again after being knocked out last season which was very sad for Chelsea.
btw, you seem too sure of betting for Chelsea whereas we don't know if all Chelsea players can quickly adapt to the new coach and I suggest that you should at least see the first performance that Chelsea will show.
Pochettino will start next season with a stronger squad as we have already seen a lot of players being sold to other teams which Chelsea did in this transfer window. Aubameyang has so far been reported to be leaving Chelsea in the transfer window this season as he had an unhappy season last season where he rarely got the chance to play regularly in every game. I don't know if Pochettino will give Aubameyang the chance next season because if you look at Aubameyang contract, of course he still has one more season for next season with Chelsea. In addition, Sterling is likely to be retained by Pochettino for next season. I also agree with your opinion that Chelsea should be able to bring in another sticker that can make a big difference to Chelsea front line next season. There are still a lot of Chelsea sticker stocks, but if we look at their performance last season, they were very unable to bring big changes in scoring goals. I think Pochettino has to think about it quickly to sign a new sticker in this summer's transfer window.

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June 26, 2023, 10:32:47 PM
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Manchester United have been on the rise since Erik ten Hag era started. The question is how consistent can they be next season? Hopefully thanks to the working system of him they should be able to stay solid. I'm imagining the Red Devils fighting for top 4 again in the worst case. The most important question is about whether they can do well in the Champions League.

They had better do so. Transfers will be crucial to help us have some ideas about it. I wonder what kind of a plan they have for the attacking line. Rashford to be the main striker and a winger transfer? Or maybe Rashford to stay on the wing and a striker transfer? The second one can be way better in my opinion.

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June 26, 2023, 10:45:28 PM
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The problem of Chelsea started from the change of management, and when the new management took over the Chelsea Football Club, he did not study what was on ground very well and began to dismiss some officials who handled important rules in the Chelsea Football Club.

They had no idea how the removal of some staffing authorities would affect the club. The experienced and long-term personnel officials should have been allowed to continue their work while looking for a successor if they do not choose to stay due to the new management structure or laid out agreement. Chelsea's entire season is ruined because of the official’s premature dismissal.

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Little did the management know that the problem was coming from them. They thought it was due to the incompetence of the coach.
Within a couple of months they changed three coaches and yet did not get a good result. I also did not expect pochettino to do some kind of wonders immediately and take Chelsea back to glory. We should expect that it will be a gradual process and Chelsea making the top 4 in next season's English Premier League is very doubtful.

No football pundit expects Pochettino to do miracles and return Chelsea to greatness by next season. It is easier to destroy than to rebuild from scratch, which is the situation Chelsea is currently in. Years of building were ruined in the blink of an eye owing to favoritism or personal interest on the part of the new management. There squad is now not convincing enough to finish in the top four by next season; we shall see what Pochettino has in store for us.

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June 26, 2023, 10:52:22 PM
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And I don't think anyone reasonably expects from Pochettino at the head of Chelsea mandatory trophies already this season. For the club, the most important thing now is to push off from the bottom and the nightmarish 12th place where the team found itself in the Premier League and remained outside the European Cup zone. Therefore, the struggle for a place in the Champions League and the late stages of the type of semi-finals of the English cups, I think, would suit the owners of the club at the end of this season.
Indeed. Chelsea management mustn't target for the trophy, but they must expect to be on the top 5 again. It is not easy to return on the top 5 in EPL because there are many strong teams, even Newcastle and Brighton become strong teams currently. Pochettino needs a stronger squad if he wants Chelsea to return to its ideal position, Chelsea should be in Europa league zone at least.

Pochettino immediately kicked out five players, starting from Kante, Hakim Ziyech, Kalidou Koulibaly, Edouard Mendy and Mateo Kovacic as the first step in building a team according to the players he wanted. Chelsea transfer policy indicates that it will carry out a major overhaul in the transfer market this summer.
How Pochettino kicked those players makes me worried about Chelsea future. Those players who left Chelsea are good players, I don't know why they should be leaving Chelsea. For me, transfer policy made by Chelsea, indicates they still don't understand what the weaknesses of this team exactly. Chelsea don't know how to build their squad with proper players.


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June 26, 2023, 10:59:18 PM
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Manchester United have been on the rise since Erik ten Hag era started. The question is how consistent can they be next season? Hopefully thanks to the working system of him they should be able to stay solid. I'm imagining the Red Devils fighting for top 4 again in the worst case. The most important question is about whether they can do well in the Champions League.

They had better do so. Transfers will be crucial to help us have some ideas about it. I wonder what kind of a plan they have for the attacking line. Rashford to be the main striker and a winger transfer? Or maybe Rashford to stay on the wing and a striker transfer? The second one can be way better in my opinion.
Manchester United can restore their glory era at the hands of Erik Ten Hag next season. But with one reason they have to bring in a lot of good quality players in the depth of their squad especially for the front line. As the news is developing for now Manchester United want to bring in quality stickers in this transfer window where Harry Kane is their target but they are having trouble getting approval from Tottenham. Erik is also looking for other players after failing to get Harry Kane and their target is Napoli's sticker, Osimhen.

I think if Erik Ten Hag can bring in Osimhen, of course they will be stronger and will be quite consistent in maintaining their performance next season. On the other hand, the acquisition of Manchester United has so far not been completed, making it difficult for Erik Ten Hag to be active in the transfer window.

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June 26, 2023, 11:03:46 PM
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Manchester United have been on the rise since Erik ten Hag era started. The question is how consistent can they be next season?

How consistent Manchester United will be depends on the signings made this summer transfer window. it will help shape up the entire season for Ten hag and Manchester United.

1. What happens to de gea? With Henderson getting sold to Nottingham and kovar coming back from loan; willl Manchester United sign a new goalie or reward De Gea with another contract?
2. What happens with the forward line? Manchester United scored as many goals as Brentford which is poor; will Rashford continue as 9 or will MUFC finally sign a striker in the mould of Harry Kane ??
3. What happens to Manchester United average midfield? they lack ball retention and cannot even progress play!

Whatever Ten Hag does about 1-3 determine how the season will be
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June 26, 2023, 11:09:11 PM
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That's what seems to be a serious consideration, because their prices continue to rise and it makes the velocity of money occur very large. But really, don't be surprised if that happens, because the English Premier League is the most prestigious and more competitive league compared to other leagues. So every club will try hard to be able to spend a lot of money to get and or bring in the players they are targeting, and because this transfer window will still take place, it is possible that Arsenal will be able to get them eventually. Who knows
It's caused by westham and ajax don't let their important players to leave from the club easily. It can be seen from how westham rejecting arsenal's offer many times while ajax may also do the same time like arsenal. The unbelievable things are if premier league clubs like have not limitation on its budget. The clubs were even always rushing to get big players with very high price tag. City has been officially making same bid as arsenal and im sure it will be rejected.
Arsenal in preparation to send another bid again. Arsenal seems trying so hard to get him from westham as soon as possible. arsenal has no choice other than paid one hundred millions for him or leave him.
The competition between arsenal and manchester city are very strict at this moment.

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June 26, 2023, 11:11:56 PM
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How Pochettino kicked those players makes me worried about Chelsea future. Those players who left Chelsea are good players, I don't know why they should be leaving Chelsea. For me, transfer policy made by Chelsea, indicates they still don't understand what the weaknesses of this team exactly. Chelsea don't know how to build their squad with proper players.
Let's hope that Pochettino, with his coaching experience, knows what he is going for and I'm not sure that the departure of all these players is Pochettino's initiative. However, if with the presence of such players Chelsea dropped so much in the standings last season, then it means that these players are to blame for this and there is a certain logic in parting with them. We can say that Chelsea recruited good musicians, but could not make an equally good orchestra out of them. Also, let's not forget that the club did not get into the Champions League, so the club definitely needs to squeeze in expenses and therefore the club is not able to keep all the players in its squad. I also think that Pochettino had a certain word which of the players should definitely be left.
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June 26, 2023, 11:14:18 PM
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Manchester United have been on the rise since Erik ten Hag era started. The question is how consistent can they be next season? Hopefully thanks to the working system of him they should be able to stay solid. I'm imagining the Red Devils fighting for top 4 again in the worst case. The most important question is about whether they can do well in the Champions League.

They had better do so. Transfers will be crucial to help us have some ideas about it. I wonder what kind of a plan they have for the attacking line. Rashford to be the main striker and a winger transfer? Or maybe Rashford to stay on the wing and a striker transfer? The second one can be way better in my opinion.
Erik Ten Hag made a list of players to sell but there isn't a clear vision until now about the ones coming to consolidate the team in Manchester United.
Among the rejected list there is Maguire, McTominay, Fred, Van de Beek, Hannibal,... Forgot the other names.
There is goalkeeper position among what Ten Hag declared, likely Onana. There is rumours about Mount, Rabiot, Min jae-kim.. Basically improving all lines.

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June 26, 2023, 11:18:54 PM
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Pochettino immediately kicked out five players, starting from Kante, Hakim Ziyech, Kalidou Koulibaly, Edouard Mendy and Mateo Kovacic as the first step in building a team according to the players he wanted. Chelsea transfer policy indicates that it will carry out a major overhaul in the transfer market this summer.
How Pochettino kicked those players makes me worried about Chelsea future. Those players who left Chelsea are good players, I don't know why they should be leaving Chelsea. For me, transfer policy made by Chelsea, indicates they still don't understand what the weaknesses of this team exactly. Chelsea don't know how to build their squad with proper players.

I don't think it was Pochettino decision to get rid of those players but probably he gave a go ahead. From how this players left this looks like Todd Boehly kind of deals. If we look deeper into this deals that got more than 5 players living it's because Todd Boehly is looking to make profits from old players that won't be comfortable playing for Chelsea when they aren't in an European competition and them playing for Saudi Arabia will give them the money they never thought about making while playing football. Clearlake Capital (one of the stake holders that invested in the takeover of Chelsea, which is one of the owners of Chelsea) has very strong business ties with Saudi Arabia PIF so the deals are not surprising and it has nothing to do with Pochettino.

There's not a football club that's as big as Chelsea that shouldn't be targeting for trophies. We aren't playing in the strongest and most important competition so what's there not to use those free time to dominate the domestic league and tournaments. I think Chelsea has to get the least one trophy next season because at the rate players are leaving Chelsea, we might have no team left if things aren't done quick. When we win some major cup next season, players will be interested in joining Chelsea since they would want to win trophies as well

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June 26, 2023, 11:25:08 PM
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Al Hilal has signed Kalidou Koulibaly from Chelsea. Leaf fall continues at Chelsea. They will be missing all their key players. They lost stars like Kante, Koulibaly, Havertz, Kovacic. It is very difficult to replace them. What will be the new transfers, will these players be replaced? This is the main question.
Chelsea has been trying to sign several names and mouses caicedo was on the list to replace kante as midfielder. Chelsea has jackson and nkuku to replace havertz and mount. Chelsea is still having casadei that can also replace kovacic even though casadei doesn't have a lot of experience but he is trying so hard to be included in the main squad. Chelsea has so many options. The main target this time is to recruit caicedo from brighton. Brighton has been putting a very high price on him.
Chelsea is trying to get money to pay him for brighton. Mount has been giving ultimatum for chelsea if he is willing to leave from the club and join in united.
Waiting for new player to come soon.

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June 26, 2023, 11:52:34 PM
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to be honest, I'm not so sure about Pochettino whether he is able to provide consistency to his players and if I see it looks like Pochettino is looking for a mainstay striker but not sure who he will choose as a mainstay striker.
The mainstay striker spot on Chelsea's football team is currently open due to the addition of new players. As any Chelsea player, Pochettino gives that spot to, will have to prove themselves when the Premier League games get going. There are so many high-caliber players available to Chelsea. Every Chelsea player has a chance to make the starting eleven, and each player's placement will be determined by how they perform in matches against other Premier League clubs, regardless of the first or second eleven.


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June 27, 2023, 12:00:43 AM
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Al Hilal has signed Kalidou Koulibaly from Chelsea. Leaf fall continues at Chelsea. They will be missing all their key players. They lost stars like Kante, Koulibaly, Havertz, Kovacic. It is very difficult to replace them. What will be the new transfers, will these players be replaced? This is the main question.
Chelsea has been trying to sign several names and mouses caicedo was on the list to replace kante as midfielder. Chelsea has jackson and nkuku to replace havertz and mount. Chelsea is still having casadei that can also replace kovacic even though casadei doesn't have a lot of experience but he is trying so hard to be included in the main squad. Chelsea has so many options. The main target this time is to recruit caicedo from brighton. Brighton has been putting a very high price on him.
Chelsea is trying to get money to pay him for brighton. Mount has been giving ultimatum for chelsea if he is willing to leave from the club and join in united.
Waiting for new player to come soon.

I think Chelsea should spend more money to hire players to replace the players they lost this season.
Many faums players they had who got high amount of salaries there, joined the Arabian teams and that's mostly because of the more money they could get in the Saudi teams.
Chelsea wanted to rebuild the teams they had to sell some players but finding players in this situation for Chelsea can't be easy because they don't have a stable situation at all.

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June 27, 2023, 12:35:53 AM
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Manchester United have been on the rise since Erik ten Hag era started. The question is how consistent can they be next season? Hopefully thanks to the working system of him they should be able to stay solid. I'm imagining the Red Devils fighting for top 4 again in the worst case. The most important question is about whether they can do well in the Champions League.

They had better do so. Transfers will be crucial to help us have some ideas about it. I wonder what kind of a plan they have for the attacking line. Rashford to be the main striker and a winger transfer? Or maybe Rashford to stay on the wing and a striker transfer? The second one can be way better in my opinion.

I think Rashford is a very effective winger. Therefore, this problem can be solved with a quality striker. It seems unreasonable to me to see Rashford as the main forward. Although he is successful as a striker, it is more beneficial for Manchester United if he plays as a stealth striker from the wings.

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June 27, 2023, 01:40:57 AM
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I think Rashford is a very effective winger. Therefore, this problem can be solved with a quality striker. It seems unreasonable to me to see Rashford as the main forward. Although he is successful as a striker, it is more beneficial for Manchester United if he plays as a stealth striker from the wings.
Marcus Rashford have been on the radar on some crucial teams which wants to add him, but I think his priority is Herr at Old Trafford. Despite possessing a converted attacker, Manchester United needs to add additional players for the club's frontlines. Erik Ten Hag may have liked Marcus Rashford's position on the field and hoped that he would play it full-time, but some fans oppose the idea of transforming a winger to a regular striker rather than a temporary one. Marcus Rashford as a possible top scorer for Manchester United is a fantastic concept. He plays the offensive position, which is ideal for the Englishman.


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