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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 40 (50.6%)
Liverpool - 12 (15.2%)
Arsenal - 22 (27.8%)
Chelsea - 0 (0%)
Manchester United - 4 (5.1%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 1 (1.3%)
Total Voters: 79

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June 29, 2023, 05:25:21 PM
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the first English club sides to have won the treble multiple times
Manchester United haven't won the treble (EPL, FA Cup and CL) multiple times, they have only won the treble once, and that was in 1998-1999 season. Manchester City are the second team English team to win the treble, thus only two English teams (City and Manchester United) have won the treble, and they've both done it only once.

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June 29, 2023, 05:44:13 PM
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Instead of accepting the offer of a new contract which would allow De Gea to accept a lower salary, I think it would be better for him to leave Manchester United for a team that knows how to value his qualities better. De Gea is the best goalkeeper ever, but I know he also declines with age.

I think there are a lot of teams who want to have him as the main goalkeeper instead of staying at Manchester United for the next few seasons. But all of this depends on Ten Hag whether he wants to sell his current main keeper or even wants to keep him until next season. For me De Gea deserves to leave Manchester United and try challenges in other leagues such as Ligue 1, Serie A or maybe also the Arab Pro League.
There are rumors circulating that Dea Gea has accepted a contract extension offer from Man United with an option to reduce his salary, but these rumors have not been confirmed or may not be true. Erik Ten Hak wants a goalkeeper who is able to play sweeper-keeper in the penalty box area, while De Gea is not strong enough to play short passes like this, so the coach plans to find a partner who can play as he wants. Erik Ten Hak also often tries different formations in every match and he tends to have an attacking strategy of short balls from the bottom.

These weaknesses do not make Dea Gea's appearance lack other strengths and everyone will agree that De Gea's reflexes in catching or brushing off the ball are extraordinary. If finally Dea Gea has to leave then Man United has lost the best goalkeeper who has collected more matches than any other player currently available.

I also heard rumors about it that De Gea had agreed to a contract extension which then led to him agreeing to an adjustment in his wages. De Gea wants to stay because Manchester United is his home, but if Ten Hag doesn't want to use him as the main goalkeeper anymore because of adjustments to his game strategy then I think De Gea's future is very futile.

André Onana seems to have an interest in joining Manchester United, but as far as I know Inter Milan are still turning down offers. André Onana is a perfect fit for Ten Hag's style of play, but Manchester United are unlikely to make that happen.
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June 29, 2023, 05:45:47 PM
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IMO in this case I think as long as there is no proof then indeed we cannot give any reference to Pochettino.
We know that at first when talking about Potter, also with a series of slick performances at Brighton, many people gave Potter a lot of hope when replacing Tuchel, but this created expectations that were too high which made them have to be willing to fall quite hard.
At the moment Pochettino does see from experience that he is quite familiar with how the Premier League is run and of course even though he only won domestic titles at PSG this is also an achievement for him but in other matters of course we also have to reflect on what was before. The hope is that he can improve Chelsea's performance which has been destroyed this season but of course a heavy burden will also be carried and hopefully he can give his best according to the expectations given at this time.

You are right, high expectations sometimes bring disappointment at least that's what happened to Chelsea last season even though they have everything they need, including European top players and fresh funds. Some people argue that Graham Potter cannot implement the right strategy but we don't know what the real reason, what is clear is that at this time Mauricio Pochettino needs more effort to bring Chelsea to the best places especially next season the competition for the Top 4 is getting fierce because the Premier League has a newcomer like Newcastle which has been proven to have taken place at the 4th place
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And the main problem that's happened to Chelsea I think is because Chelsea have been under three different coaches and also there have been mid-season squad changes throughout the season so the balance of the team has been shattered and it's been inconsistent for Chelsea. Due to differences in coaches that have an impact on changes in strategy and also changes in players.
and Chelsea really have to have the right coach so that there are no more changes in coaches, and I hope Mauricio Pochettino can turn Chelsea into a team that can compete at the top. Because next season the competition will be much stronger and tighter because several teams made significant changes last season and of course next season will be much better and stronger, and Chelsea must be able to be better than them especially with Newcastle which I think next season he will be one of a team not to be taken lightly.


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June 29, 2023, 06:01:12 PM
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I believe that when we look at why Arsenal failed to lead the EPL standings last season, resulting in their failure to become champions, injuries emerge as a crucial factor. When key players were injured, the backup players were unable to meet expectations, and this became a major reason for their failure to clinch the title. Arteta rarely rotated his players, leading to a lack of well-organized squad depth. As a result, when they were fielded as starters, the team's mentality and stable could not be achieved. On the other hand,  i think Arteta also needs to learn from the experience that he must renew his tactics if he wants to become champions in the upcoming season.
It was painful to witness Arsenal's struggle last season as they lost their way towards the end. Meanwhile, Manchester City was dominating every game and deservedly became the champions. Hopefully, Arteta and Arsenal can build a more solid squad by recruiting new players, thus ending their 20-year trophy drought in the next season.

Arsenal's condition last season was unfavorable, it was a pity when they were only a few steps away from becoming champions and they had to lose what was their goal. It's no longer a secret if everyone can't imagine that the club they are proud of has to experience something like this towards the end of the season. Agree, the injury factor of the regular players seems to be the thing that brought Arsenal to this failure, I can't imagine that Arteta actually didn't place too much importance on the role of the substitutes so that the reserves couldn't give maximum results. This is a problem that many clubs are afraid of where they have to lose balance when the competition is ongoing. This is a very valuable experience for Arsenal especially for Arteta, I hope Arteta will make every effort so that something like this doesn't happen for the second time in the Premier League next season.

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June 29, 2023, 06:03:33 PM
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Finally Mount have left the bridge and UTD on the other hand have gotten a new player but the question is, does the man Mount has a lot to bring to the UTD side? Can he play like he did when Chelsea won the Champions league about 2 seasons back? Because at this point in time he's a flop, well time will tell.

Manchester United need to do more in this transfer window because they have been in contact with so many players but could only get one and now they're having issues with the contract of David de Gea, I can't really get why they didn't accept his proposal instead it was reversed or something, and I feel they're not going to get Onana before the window closes. Is Manchester United always going to be this disrespectful to players who gave their all? Why didn't they sign the proposal that De Gea has  already signed? Seems they don't really want him anymore at Old Trafford.
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June 29, 2023, 06:05:35 PM
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Chelsea need to be much more active in the transfer market now. They even need to be the most active team among the top teams of the league. Because they have parted ways with many players in this transfer window. They will need to replace them with solid alternatives as soon as possible. They are in a rebuilding process in short.
Nope, they don't need to be active in the transfer market right now because there's already a possible line up for the next season.

The last season Potter sign so many players and Chelsea squad can be used for 3 teams to be honest, even though they recently have sold many of their players, it doesn't hurt them because they still have many players.

I agree with you, last season Chelseas's squad was a mess, they had more than enough players... Sometimes having too many players in a team can cause a headache for a coach, trying to find a stable line up and also make a lot of people happy.. So what Chelsea is doing this season is offloading there excess weight and bringing in the very little required players that they feel is needed!!! And i feel (WE) Chelsea are doing just the right thing and we dont really have to outdo ourself this season!!!

Yes, it's true, at least Pochettino also has good abilities and it seems that there is no need to doubt his skills in building a team. After all, if they can still maximize the potential of the players they have, then surely Chelsea will no longer need to spend as much money as the previous season to build a team. So yes, with the election of Pochettino as Chelsea head coach, maybe that can also reduce or minimize Chelsea's budget expenses. Of course, it will be very interesting how it will turn out, because not making many purchases will at least be a gamble for Chelsea's performance next season.
I think it will be time to spend money for Chelsea this season. They lost the big stars one by one. As far as I remember, they sold Mendy to Al-Hilal. Kai Havertz went to rivals Arsenal. Joao Felix is ​​back in his team and they have to get more important players. They cannot complete this season without a transfer. Pochettino needs to pull a rabbit out of the hat this year.

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June 29, 2023, 06:09:59 PM
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Seems like you are not as updated with what's going around Declan Rice in transfer market. Arsenal and City were interested in Rice and both clubs made huge bids. Bayern never placed a bid considering his high price tag but they were for sure interested in him. Declan Rice plays very well as holding midfielder and with Xhaka and Partey near to leave Arsenal, it was important for us to sign a holding midfielder. Now Xhaka played as more of an aggressive type midfielder in Arsenal's formation kinda like what Gundogan in City's formation last season. Now I am not sure what kind of role is Arteta planning here for Rice here. I think he is replacement for Xhaka and will he be given a more aggressive role like Xhaka used to have or just like a normal DM which is what his strong role as I have seen till now. So I feel his performance will lot depend on how the DM roles will be distributed by Arteta.
True. Arsenal have been negotiating with West Ham for Rice since November of last year. It's hope that Arteta, will get his man through a record-transfer deal. However, it's important to consider whether spending such a large sum of money guarantees that the player will meet expectations. I just hope that Rice doesn't disappoint due to the enormous amount involved. Arsenal is patiently waiting him join in the midfield alongside Martin Ødegaard and Thomas Partey. While I may not agree the idea of Xhaka leaving, but eventually he is on his way out just to make room for Rice. We'll see how quickly Arteta can transform this vision into reality.
That would literally be a transfer that is better than City, and that's what Arsenal needs urgently. City got Kovacic instead of Ilkay, and that means if Arsenal gets Declan Rice, I believe Declan to be better than Kovacic, that's of course just one player but they need every single situation like that they can get.

Arsenal probably made some decent profit from all of this, I can't see them not being in profit this season and in that case I believe that they should be doing a good job by putting in the effort to make some big transfers like this. I do not care how much is wanted by the club, pay them whatever you can afford to pay, even offer something for the future and get him so that Arsenal could have a better chance next season.

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June 29, 2023, 06:12:19 PM
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Finally Mount have left the bridge and UTD on the other hand have gotten a new player but the question is, does the man Mount has a lot to bring to the UTD side? Can he play like he did when Chelsea won the Champions league about 2 seasons back? Because at this point in time he's a flop, well time will tell.

Manchester United need to do more in this transfer window because they have been in contact with so many players but could only get one and now they're having issues with the contract of David de Gea, I can't really get why they didn't accept his proposal instead it was reversed or something, and I feel they're not going to get Onana before the window closes. Is Manchester United always going to be this disrespectful to players who gave their all? Why didn't they sign the proposal that De Gea has  already signed? Seems they don't really want him anymore at Old Trafford.

https://www.marca.com/en/football/manchester-united/2023/06/28/649c8b40e2704ef3ac8b4572.html

Really wierd that Mount left Chelsea ,i was thinking he was gonna be there for a long time. Chelsea keeps on selling players to recover some money that they spent in the last year or so. For Man Utd this is a good transfer with this they will fresh up the midfield and will have a strong one aswell. I think we might see a new goalkeeper on Old Trafford really soon

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June 29, 2023, 06:19:16 PM
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I also heard rumors about it that De Gea had agreed to a contract extension which then led to him agreeing to an adjustment in his wages. De Gea wants to stay because Manchester United is his home, but if Ten Hag doesn't want to use him as the main goalkeeper anymore because of adjustments to his game strategy then I think De Gea's future is very futile.

André Onana seems to have an interest in joining Manchester United, but as far as I know Inter Milan are still turning down offers. André Onana is a perfect fit for Ten Hag's style of play, but Manchester United are unlikely to make that happen.
There are rumors that after the salary adjustment, now the club has reduced De Gea's salary adjustment so that the contract signing still cannot be done because there has been no decision on David De Gea, is it possible that he will stay?
Erik Ten Hag is really interested in Onana, he has the ability to control the ball in his penalty city as a goalkeeper, this is what Erik Ten Hag wants as a goalkeeper who will replace David De Gea.

Inter Milan's previous statement had indeed refused to sell Onana, but if there are longer negotiations and the price is high then it is very likely that Inter Milan can let him go, now Man United is waiting for De Gea's decision if he doesn't want to sign a contract then Man United will focus on pursuing Onana.

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June 29, 2023, 06:29:48 PM
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the first English club sides to have won the treble multiple times
Manchester United haven't won the treble (EPL, FA Cup and CL) multiple times, they have only won the treble once, and that was in 1998-1999 season. Manchester City are the second team English team to win the treble, thus only two English teams (City and Manchester United) have won the treble, and they've both done it only once.
Manchester United won only one Champions League trophy almost two decades ago but then they did not win any Champions League trophy in the long 24 years. Manchester United are no longer considered favorites for the Champions League trophy. The only means of achieving European excellence is the Champions League trophy. They haven't won a Champions League trophy in a long time but they have no problem with that, they are only lying with the Premier League trophy and other minor tournament titles. After the change of ownership, Man U fans started to dream about this team again. If the plan goes according to plan and some changes are made in important places, maybe two eras will end their wait.

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And the main problem that's happened to Chelsea I think is because Chelsea have been under three different coaches and also there have been mid-season squad changes throughout the season so the balance of the team has been shattered and it's been inconsistent for Chelsea. Due to differences in coaches that have an impact on changes in strategy and also changes in players.
and Chelsea really have to have the right coach so that there are no more changes in coaches, and I hope Mauricio Pochettino can turn Chelsea into a team that can compete at the top. Because next season the competition will be much stronger and tighter because several teams made significant changes last season and of course next season will be much better and stronger, and Chelsea must be able to be better than them especially with Newcastle which I think next season he will be one of a team not to be taken lightly.

Yeah it seems that reason is a little reasonable, changes in strategy and play style sometimes have an impact on players also more difficult to get cohesive
But management made the decision to replace the coach because Chelsea's performance continued to decline so there was no other choice, imagine Chelsea was thrown from the top 10 even though usually in every season Chelsea are always in the top 4. Pochettino has a tough challenge next season and so far he has not made efforts to improve in squad.

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June 29, 2023, 06:36:36 PM
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Finally Mount have left the bridge and UTD on the other hand have gotten a new player but the question is, does the man Mount has a lot to bring to the UTD side? Can he play like he did when Chelsea won the Champions league about 2 seasons back? Because at this point in time he's a flop, well time will tell.

Manchester United need to do more in this transfer window because they have been in contact with so many players but could only get one and now they're having issues with the contract of David de Gea, I can't really get why they didn't accept his proposal instead it was reversed or something, and I feel they're not going to get Onana before the window closes. Is Manchester United always going to be this disrespectful to players who gave their all? Why didn't they sign the proposal that De Gea has  already signed? Seems they don't really want him anymore at Old Trafford.

https://www.marca.com/en/football/manchester-united/2023/06/28/649c8b40e2704ef3ac8b4572.html

Really wierd that Mount left Chelsea ,i was thinking he was gonna be there for a long time. Chelsea keeps on selling players to recover some money that they spent in the last year or so. For Man Utd this is a good transfer with this they will fresh up the midfield and will have a strong one aswell. I think we might see a new goalkeeper on Old Trafford really soon
Chelsea did sell their old players but it is a clear aim that their new coach wants to revive Chelsea's performance to be the strong club it was before by selling old players and replacing them with younger players who have better talent.
I really can't wait to see Chelsea play at the start of the season when I already have an experienced coach to be able to fix the bad things in the past
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Silently I get worried about Arsenal’s midfield shape if Partey /Xhaka leaves, I don’t know why it worries me so much. Assuming they got Kai Havertz for the Xhaka role, that leaves only him as a CM for them. Every option they have for the CM role (Kai Havertz Inclusive) is makeshift at best. Plus they have Rice and Jorginho as DM options (This I can live with as they’re both hardly ever injured). But they are very short on that role. Partey’s presence means they could utilize Rice as a B2B which he’s capable of, but letting both Xhaka and Partey go without adequate replacements will be a mistake.

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June 29, 2023, 07:11:50 PM
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Finally Mount have left the bridge and UTD on the other hand have gotten a new player but the question is, does the man Mount has a lot to bring to the UTD side? Can he play like he did when Chelsea won the Champions league about 2 seasons back? Because at this point in time he's a flop, well time will tell.

Manchester United need to do more in this transfer window because they have been in contact with so many players but could only get one and now they're having issues with the contract of David de Gea, I can't really get why they didn't accept his proposal instead it was reversed or something, and I feel they're not going to get Onana before the window closes. Is Manchester United always going to be this disrespectful to players who gave their all? Why didn't they sign the proposal that De Gea has  already signed? Seems they don't really want him anymore at Old Trafford.

https://www.marca.com/en/football/manchester-united/2023/06/28/649c8b40e2704ef3ac8b4572.html

Really wierd that Mount left Chelsea ,i was thinking he was gonna be there for a long time. Chelsea keeps on selling players to recover some money that they spent in the last year or so. For Man Utd this is a good transfer with this they will fresh up the midfield and will have a strong one aswell. I think we might see a new goalkeeper on Old Trafford really soon
Chelsea did sell their old players but it is a clear aim that their new coach wants to revive Chelsea's performance to be the strong club it was before by selling old players and replacing them with younger players who have better talent.
I really can't wait to see Chelsea play at the start of the season when I already have an experienced coach to be able to fix the bad things in the past
I don't think it's right to miss Chelsea's old players. It is impossible to say how well Chelsea will play with the young players. Sometimes it is not right to trust the youth.  No matter how good Chelsea's coach is. It takes a lot of time to develop a young player. And it takes a lot of hard work for a coach to develop a young player into a skilled player. Now how well Chelsea's cell will play with young players will be understood only by watching the game

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June 29, 2023, 07:21:45 PM
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Finally Mount have left the bridge and UTD on the other hand have gotten a new player but the question is, does the man Mount has a lot to bring to the UTD side? Can he play like he did when Chelsea won the Champions league about 2 seasons back? Because at this point in time he's a flop, well time will tell.

Manchester United need to do more in this transfer window because they have been in contact with so many players but could only get one and now they're having issues with the contract of David de Gea, I can't really get why they didn't accept his proposal instead it was reversed or something, and I feel they're not going to get Onana before the window closes. Is Manchester United always going to be this disrespectful to players who gave their all? Why didn't they sign the proposal that De Gea has  already signed? Seems they don't really want him anymore at Old Trafford.

https://www.marca.com/en/football/manchester-united/2023/06/28/649c8b40e2704ef3ac8b4572.html

Really wierd that Mount left Chelsea ,i was thinking he was gonna be there for a long time. Chelsea keeps on selling players to recover some money that they spent in the last year or so. For Man Utd this is a good transfer with this they will fresh up the midfield and will have a strong one aswell. I think we might see a new goalkeeper on Old Trafford really soon
Chelsea did sell their old players but it is a clear aim that their new coach wants to revive Chelsea's performance to be the strong club it was before by selling old players and replacing them with younger players who have better talent.
I really can't wait to see Chelsea play at the start of the season when I already have an experienced coach to be able to fix the bad things in the past
I don't think it's right to miss Chelsea's old players. It is impossible to say how well Chelsea will play with the young players. Sometimes it is not right to trust the youth.  No matter how good Chelsea's coach is. It takes a lot of time to develop a young player. And it takes a lot of hard work for a coach to develop a young player into a skilled player. Now how well Chelsea's cell will play with young players will be understood only by watching the game
Well, I would underestimate young players, yeah, I very well understand the path you are coming from, but then, understand that, how fast or how slow a young player is groomed in to becoming a skilled player very well depends on how good and talented the player is naturally.
If the young player is extremely talented naturally, then grooming such a player to a skilled player will take absolutely no much time and stress, couple with the advantage that younger players are much more stronger, vibrant, and are always faster than the older players who are already getting weak due to aging.

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June 29, 2023, 07:30:43 PM
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Really wierd that Mount left Chelsea ,i was thinking he was gonna be there for a long time. Chelsea keeps on selling players to recover some money that they spent in the last year or so. For Man Utd this is a good transfer with this they will fresh up the midfield and will have a strong one aswell. I think we might see a new goalkeeper on Old Trafford really soon
Chelsea must make their finances more balanced after spending so much money last season to buy many players. I think over 70% of the squad that Chelsea have at the moment are new players, while some of the old players have been sold to maintain the financial balance. However, Chelsea also seems to be still eager to bring in several other players even though they are trying to balance the finances.

Pochettino seems to have a good plan for Chelsea next season, but he must be wise enough in managing his strategy when he has many players who have not fully adapted so far.

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I know so well that Chelsea spent a lot in bringing in new players and have to recover the funds but they now feel they have more than enough to give out. Now it's mason mount, just Kevin De Bruyne and Mohamed Sallah were given out in 2013 when the season didn't favour them.  Instead of reconsideMountmount proposal and offering offered him increments in salary since he demanded 300 hundred,  he was sold out for 60m. Manchester United now sees the need of going for young stars. I'm very sure the is underlying remorse awaiting Chelsea in this contract.

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June 29, 2023, 08:20:41 PM
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Chelsea must make their finances more balanced after spending so much money last season to buy many players. I think over 70% of the squad that Chelsea have at the moment are new players, while some of the old players have been sold to maintain the financial balance. However, Chelsea also seems to be still eager to bring in several other players even though they are trying to balance the finances.

Pochettino seems to have a good plan for Chelsea next season, but he must be wise enough in managing his strategy when he has many players who have not fully adapted so far.
I hope Pochettino knows what he's doing, so far the sale of Chelsea players looks very confident, but we don't know how this will affect the team. Some will say that even with these players the team did not play well, but I tend to think that the problem was not with the players, but with the coaches who could not create chemistry between these players. Pochettino decided to go his own way, maybe he's right and lets players go who he doesn't need, that's fair to them. And how Chelsea will be a good team under the management of Pochettino, we will soon find out.

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June 29, 2023, 08:24:23 PM
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I know so well that Chelsea spent a lot in bringing in new players and have to recover the funds but they now feel they have more than enough to give out. Now it's mason mount, just Kevin De Bruyne and Mohamed Sallah were given out in 2013 when the season didn't favour them.  Instead of reconsideMountmount proposal and offering offered him increments in salary since he demanded 300 hundred,  he was sold out for 60m. Manchester United now sees the need of going for young stars. I'm very sure the is underlying remorse awaiting Chelsea in this contract.

Obviously they are not leaving any stones unturned once more after spending a record breaking amount in the last 12 months on new players. The whole project Chelsea has turned into a massive high risk investment for Boehly. He now hired a new coach and Pochettino has his own idea of how he wants the team to play. Surprisingly, he is selling players that I did not expect he would sell. Mason Mount, Havertz and so many others. Some of the players were not key players anyway and also they need to find proper substitutes, but what is Pochettino's plan? Go out there again and spend more money than the sheikhs? if that doesn't work out and they miss a higher rank in the table again despite starting from zero, the club could suffer from long term consequences.

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June 29, 2023, 08:45:31 PM
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Since the club is currently in the acquisition process, of course this will disrupt Ten Hag's process of finding several players for them to bring to United. if they fail and are late in the transfer market this summer. I think Ten Hag should take care of his squad until the winter transfer window opens. and they can look for as few players as they can get. the most important thing now is that Ten Hag must be able to maximize the players they currently have.
Even though at this time several players were very closely linked with joining Manchester United. But with the current conditions. Maybe Ten Heg won't be able to get the player he has been eyeing in the transfer market. But I believe that even with the current squad Ten Heg will definitely be able to make the most of it. But it would be better if there were some additional strength from new players from the current transfer market which is still ongoing.
If the current issue in Manchester United will make Eric Ten hag not to sign new player into the club that is to say Manchester United will still use the same set of players they already have and with this it is expected for Manchester United to still display the same performance like that of last season, I think if this eventually happens that Manchester United is unable to sign in players it will really affect the performance of the team in the next season.  How the team performs in the beginning of the season  matters alot.

Waiting for the winter season to reach to sign players is a long time to me and this is the best time to get good players. In the winter market it is not easy to get quality players in the winter market.  This is a terrible news for Manchester United that may really affect them in the next season.  Next season Manchester United have lot of works for them, they seriously need a better squad expecially for the Champions league and also to be among the top Premier league team.
I agree with you that it is more difficult to sign great players in the transfer market that reopens in the winter. because at that time even the Premier League was in the middle of the season. So that the adjustment of new players in the middle of the season sometimes will not produce maximum results. we reflect on the Chelsea club which brought in more players in the winter transfer market. and they didn't get any improvement after bringing in a lot of players in that winter transfer market.

I hope Erik Ten Heg can still build a squad from the current transfer market quite well. although it is impossible for Man united to bring in a very expensive player for the club. but at least some new strength additions can be expected to bring greater hope for the club.
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