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Question: Who will be the champion in 2024/25 season?
Manchester City - 40 (49.4%)
Liverpool - 12 (14.8%)
Arsenal - 22 (27.2%)
Chelsea - 1 (1.2%)
Manchester United - 4 (4.9%)
Totenham - 0 (0%)
Newcastle - 0 (0%)
Other - 2 (2.5%)
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January 03, 2024, 06:44:47 PM


Newcastle has never been the same as Chelsea, Manchester United, Arsenal and Manchester City in terms of player transfers. I mean, Newcastle management is more concerned with long-term projects by building squad depth gradually rather than spending a lot of money in one transfer season. This policy can certainly help them save a lot of money on purchasing players, but they also prioritize quality.
They actually trying to avoid the situation we are have been seeing in Psg in the recent years, is not only about the squad depth, the players needs to respect the coach and each others so they will continue to build with the players of the same class and as time goes by qualities of these players will increase.

You are right, Newcastle is a rich club, but they don't seem to be in too much of a rush to build depth in their squad with a number of star players. Eddie Howe is an influential coach, but unfortunately Newcastle's performance this season has not lived up to the expectations of many fans. The defeat to Liverpool was their 9th defeat of the season in the Premier League, so they are in a decline in form compared to last season.
I can say their decline in forms is from their injury crisis while they are inconsistent this season, we can say this season has been quite competitive than last season and so I think they need to work well on their winning mentality because in the end that differentiate every quality team from each other.
The competition for the Premier League title is becoming more and more exciting! Manchester City is showing incredible form in their recent matches, and I can clearly see their determination to succeed. The top four teams, especially Liverpool, are not giving up either. Aston Villa is putting in a commendable effort, making the points difference not as significant.
The league is getting tougher by the day especially at this late time of the season because the competition between Liverpool, Tottenham Hotspur, Manchester City, Aston Villa and Arsenal is very strong that you can hardly see a club lasting longer on the premier League first position because almost all the above mentioned club has tested the premier League first position but could not stay long, so perhaps right now is very difficult to predict the winner because there performance are almost equal but however with the way things are going if Liverpool remains consistent on there performance they will stand on a higher chance of wining the league.
I will actually exclude Tottenham and Aston villa from the list of title contenders but they can be considered top 4 contenders while Arsenal is the least among the 3 (Liverpool, Arsenal and Manchester City) to win the league since they are more inconsistent. If Liverpool really want to win the league, they already know that they need to avoid losing or drawing games since Man City is not a team to give such opportunity because it will be hard to get it back from them just like what happened between Man City and Arsenal last season











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January 03, 2024, 06:48:13 PM

Now seeing Aston Villa is even wilder in terms of the game so that it is in second place which is quite good at the moment, and it is true that if they are still consistent until the end of the season then this is extraordinary with what Unai Emery has achieved.
Newcastle have started to decline, there must be a little bit of improvement in their squad especially some important players are absent due to injury or Tonali is punished, what Eddie Howe must do is find a way out if not they will only be in the middle of the table so we are not sure they can finish better.

I believe squad depth is not a major factor for a team to be consistent because anyway, if we consider about Aston Villa. Then yes, at least Aston Villa also does not have good squad depth but anyway, the fact is that Aston Villa managed to maintain a position in second place. Whereas before, we know that Arsenal are at the top of the table and Arsenal have better squad depth compared to Aston Villa but in fact, Arsenal still failed to maintain their position.

Therefore, I think at this moment it is about how well their head coach applies the strategy by adjusting the players in the squad. If their head coach is right in applying the players according to the right strategy then yes, at least the team's performance will also be able to have better consistency.

I actually don't know how Aston Villa will perform. Have they started to bottom like Arsenal or have there been just a few accidents in the recent matches? They lost to Manchester 3-2 a few days ago and had a tough victory against Burnley. They are starting to look shaky. Unai Emery had a good chance of getting the top spot if they had won the match against Manchester United.

Salah probably will not play a few matches due to the AFCON. If Liverpool starts to lose points now then it would be a good chance for them to get the top spot. Manchester City are also chasing now so things are getting very exciting.

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January 03, 2024, 06:51:47 PM

Now Newcastle has been eliminated from the Champions League but their performance has not improved. I don't think Newcastle stage fright in the UCL has had an impact on the EPL, Newcastle performance declined because they were unable to maintain the best game that occurred last season.
The Premier League is very competitive this season, you can see for yourself how the big teams compete in the top four positions. Newcastle needs changes in its team to improve its performance, I doubt Newcastle can repeat last season's success if there is no improvement in performance.

No improvement still, really bad performance from the Magpies, they need to sit up if they want to continue winning, that's how to stay ontop of the table. The elimination of Newcastle from UCL weakened the club and that poses strong doubt for the players and the manager, even affects the supporters. Newcastle united have no solid stands in the UEFA Champions League, they only cough but they can't bark like a competitive club in the league. Eddie Howe have tried but he just can't withstand the pressing pressure from elite and mediocre teams.
Now it is obvious that the problem of Newcastle is a psychological one primarily caused by their exit from the European championship. The depreciation was too rapid and continuous. Losing 1:3 to Nottingham Forest in their is what will not happen when they were playing with enthusiasm. Not only that, Leeds United also beat them 1:0 which is enough reason to conclude that Newcastle has become a shadow of itself.

What they need now is the introduction of new faces in the team and a possible change of coach to reinstate the winning psychology in them because if they continue the way they are going, they might be relegated.

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January 03, 2024, 06:59:46 PM


Now it is obvious that the problem of Newcastle is a psychological one primarily caused by their exit from the European championship. The depreciation was too rapid and continuous. Losing 1:3 to Nottingham Forest in their is what will not happen when they were playing with enthusiasm. Not only that, Leeds United also beat them 1:0 which is enough reason to conclude that Newcastle has become a shadow of itself.

What they need now is the introduction of new faces in the team and a possible change of coach to reinstate the winning psychology in them because if they continue the way they are going, they might be relegated.

You mentioned a few examples for bad games that Newcastle played and then there elimination from the Champions League and the Europa League at the same time. If the games against Nottingham Forest was an exception, everything would still be alright. But Newcastle is going straight down the table with high speed. That is what makes people who support the club be concerned. It's not clear whether they can fix all the issues within a short period of time and get the chance to qualify for the Champions League for next season again. At the moment it looks as if they won't have a chance to compete for the top 4.

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January 03, 2024, 07:04:20 PM

And it turns out our predictions were wrong. ha ha ha I was really surprised when I saw the final result of Arsenal vs West Ham 0 - 2. Arsenal lost.

The fact that these end results catch us by surprise so often also shows how unpredictable the Premier League is. In the last few weeks I really have been wrong countless of times with my picks and that had mostly to do with the games in which the favorites won against the inferior teams. Today it was Manchester United against Nottingham Forest, but then there was of course Arsenal against West Ham. But there have been several games recently where this became evident.

I sometimes want to be more bold with my picks, but every time I think that there is no chance it would end like that. But it does quite often. Should be taking more risks at times.
And apparently it doesn't stop there, mate. In fact, at the end of this year, yesterday Arsenal also lost to Fulham 2 - 1. Isn't this really worrying? after being in the top standing position for so long and in the end having to plunge to 4th place at Arsenal? Even if we look at the mid-season match, Arsenal's performance has declined quite a bit... I don't know what will happen in Arsenal's next EPL match against Crystal Palace, where their opponents often give strong surprises and are difficult to beat. Hemmm, this will really test Arsenal's abilities again, whether they have recovered or are still the same.

The game against Fulham was just the culmination of the bad times that they are going through. They got 4 points out of their last 5 games, so out of 15 points they got 4. I think this pretty much sums up what's going on with them. It is not just this one bad game, it is looking bad for them.

But it is surprising that they are facing these challenges so early in the season already. They could just show their best and win their games. Or I wonder whether it could be a quality issue. Do they really have the top players required to compete with Manchester City and Liverpool?

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Is true that they're good at messing up and for Arteta to be in this position he is at the table only means they have lost so many points and chances which isn't healthy for the club, if this continues it will only be when the fans start shouting for Arteta to be fired. If Arsenal mistakenly win the league I'd just say it's luck because they haven't shown any sign of improvement from last season, is like they're repeating the same mistake and wishing to win the title.
As it is, City are topping the league that's if you add up those outstanding games (the points) which to me they'll win it, you know that Liverpool and the others have no chance of bringing the Citizens down, so is best for this Arsenal team to start hoping for other teams who are competing for the title to lose while they win their games.
At the moment,  Manchester City is far from the trophy and even though they are the defending champions they still will need to put in the effort if they ever want to retain the title just as you speculated which looks impossible to me and for sure Liverpool may not be able to sustain the forces for the entire season since it just via miracle that they are sustaining the number one spot up until now and if in the next couple of matches, Liverpool failed to win just as there did in the last match it will be a big downside for the club,  but if there be lucky to win in the next legs of the matches there will be able to attempt a possible win in the season with their current point in the leagues table.

But for Arsenal,  it is now clearly impossible for them to make a repeat of their last season's results this season and due to recent results they're now far from the first spots in any way for the remaining days of this season.

Man City are still in the race of retaining the title with them having 2 games at hand (if I'm not mistaken) that's just an advantage for the Citizens and we know how they are with those chances, City don't make mistakes when they have 2 life lines to get to the trophy and I can't even see Liverpool getting far in this title race.
Like you said is only a miracle that can happen for Klopp's boys to win the league and let's face it, this is the toughest round of the season because is like those teams who lost to the other teams won't make any mistake to lose twice, although we have teams that can't help it but lose twice (home & away).
In Arsenal's own situation I think is them that need that miracle you're talking about because to them they're still in the race but I feel they'd be having this impossible wish to come to past like let City, Liverpool and maybe Aston Villa to lose for them to win and top the table again or probably win the league.











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Is true that they're good at messing up and for Arteta to be in this position he is at the table only means they have lost so many points and chances which isn't healthy for the club, if this continues it will only be when the fans start shouting for Arteta to be fired. If Arsenal mistakenly win the league I'd just say it's luck because they haven't shown any sign of improvement from last season, is like they're repeating same mistake and wishing to win the title.
As it is, City are topping the league that's if you add up those outstanding games (the points) which to me they'll win it, you know that Liverpool and the others have no chance of bringing the Citizens down, so is best for this Arsenal team to start hoping for other teams who are competing for the title to lose while they win their games.
Arsenal are just a heavy joke in England because why trying to prove your weight if you can’t keep up with the fierce competition up till the very end. I think Arteta thinks he still got time with the fans to get things done.The fans are tired of the whole trial and error method used by Arteta and if they go trophyless they’ll start calling for his sack. Now Arsenal have probably let the title slip away by loosing 6 crucial points, and we can now say Citizens and Liverpool will battle all out for it.

 But will Liverpool be able to match the citizens who are now back in full shape, well time shall tell. I think Arteta’s work on this team can only help them maintain top 4 spot and not challenge for the league because they’re obviously out of the race, cause it’s obvious that they'll end up like last season, which is bottling the league, lol.
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January 03, 2024, 07:23:36 PM

Salah probably will not play a few matches due to the AFCON. If Liverpool starts to lose points now then it would be a good chance for them to get the top spot. Manchester City are also chasing now so things are getting very exciting.
Mo Salah won't miss too many games, there are only a few EPL games to be played in January, i think only 2 EPL games would  be played this month, so Liverpool should be able to cope before Mo Salah returns from the AFCON. This is an opportunity for other attacking players to step up, the likes of Jota, Nunez and Gakpo, they have to start getting important goals, and if they do so, Salah won't be missed too much.

Having said that, Aston Villa do not have any chance of winning the league, though they have a chance of making it to Europe (CL or Europa League) next season. It is going to be a three horse race for the EPL title this season between Liverpool, Arsenal and City.

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At the beginning of the season no one saw Liverpool coming, they played badly and at a time was battling to move to the big six, it was all Manchester city and Arsenal.
Now Liverpool sit 5 points clear of Arsenal and Manchester city with Aston villa their closest rivals.
I think in terms of consistency Liverpool are better than Arsenal and has a better chance of maintaining the top spot and would be Manchester city main adversary to them defending their premier league title.
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Salah probably will not play a few matches due to the AFCON. If Liverpool starts to lose points now then it would be a good chance for them to get the top spot. Manchester City are also chasing now so things are getting very exciting.
Jurgen Klopp will have to draw his mappings again because one of his key players is leaving the club, a big threat for them to start declining in performance. Not only Mohammed Salah,  there are other players that will be leaving their perspective clubs and focused on AFCON, some of these players are call up by their country while some doesn't fall favorite. You're pointing out the fact that Liverpool can not survive without the presence of Mohammed Salah? I don't think so because he would be be gone for a while and he will ensure he return back to the club as soon as he's services ends for his country Egypt.

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We are leading the league table. Villa and Arsenal are no threat. City is concern but 5 points behind. Hope we don't lose motivation.
The EPL table keep changing and we know the elite clubs that would become competitive. Motivation, consistency and hardwork is what Liverpool need to fuel the stage. You're mocking other elite clubs yeah? Who has the best laugh? The EPL campaign have not ended, so these clubs mentioned have potentials of climbing to the first spot. Liverpool is lucky enough to have Jurgen Klopp who have boosts the onfidence of the club at Anfield. You're a Liverpool fan, you're happy, it's normal but don't get carried away because there are clubs that might not be doing good presently but they will certainly bounce back to good form.
In last few years first time I have changes like these as we have four teams lead the league table and things are still not certain about how we will have in near future even currently Liverpool is at the top with 3 points lead from the Aston Villa and 5 points from Manchester City which is having one match in hand Arsenal and Tottenham are also in hunt but facing some decline with still able to fight in coming weeks Jürgen Klopp is surely having one of the best strategy after having troubling last season now he is doing which is important for keeping things at the top.

As things going right now, we can expect good challenges, but most of the soccer fans are feeling again we will have Manchester City and Liverpool for the final title race with others are not good enough to have anything special.

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The competition for the Premier League title is becoming more and more exciting! Manchester City is showing incredible form in their recent matches, and I can clearly see their determination to succeed. The top four teams, especially Liverpool, are not giving up either. Aston Villa is putting in a commendable effort, making the points difference not as significant.

As I observe the ongoing race in the Premier League, it's challenging to predict which team will emerge as the champion. However, based on their consistent performances, my focus is on Manchester City and Liverpool. These two teams have a history of not giving up, especially towards the end of the season. With half of the season already behind us, the competition is heating up. On the other hand, Arsenal seems to be facing challenges, having recently won only one out of their last five games. The pattern they showed last season is starting to resurface, and it remains uncertain whether they can turn things around.

The only thing that is stopping Manchester City from overtaking Aston Villa is because of their outstanding match with Brentford but that will be settled very soon. I didn't expect them to have good form after they fell out of the table and because Haaland has not been active but now it seems Alvarez has took the show with Manchester City on his shoulder making the team proud. Now visualize how they are going to come back strongly if KDB and Haaland was to be active like he use to be in the last few months.

My only fear now about the Premier League is because of Arsenal, they raw 1 of their last 3 matches and 2 losses and this losses happen in a row, now it's difficult to describe the form of Arsenal. They are tired and need to change some players. I think they need more players so that Saka and Jesus can be bench when they have more important matches to play like the Champions League, it will allow them to be productive and have time energies.

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Now it is obvious that the problem of Newcastle is a psychological one primarily caused by their exit from the European championship. The depreciation was too rapid and continuous. Losing 1:3 to Nottingham Forest in their is what will not happen when they were playing with enthusiasm. Not only that, Leeds United also beat them 1:0 which is enough reason to conclude that Newcastle has become a shadow of itself.

What they need now is the introduction of new faces in the team and a possible change of coach to reinstate the winning psychology in them because if they continue the way they are going, they might be relegated.
I can't conclude anything about Newcastle this season other than confirming that their performance so far has declined greatly. Compared to last season, Newcastle has so far lost 9 times and drawn 2 in 20 matches. Last season Newcastle only managed 5 defeats and 14 draws in 38 games, so it was two different displays from them.

Newcastle needs several additional quality players to support its long-term plans. They have to take advantage of the transfer market to build a squad consisting of several quality players, and in my opinion this is very necessary so that they are able to compete closely in the top four of the standings.

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I can't conclude anything about Newcastle this season other than confirming that their performance so far has declined greatly. Compared to last season, Newcastle has so far lost 9 times and drawn 2 in 20 matches. Last season Newcastle only managed 5 defeats and 14 draws in 38 games, so it was two different displays from them.

Newcastle needs several additional quality players to support its long-term plans. They have to take advantage of the transfer market to build a squad consisting of several quality players, and in my opinion this is very necessary so that they are able to compete closely in the top four of the standings.
Now Newcastle has more defeats than draws, it can be said that the performance of the current season has dropped dramatically because it cannot be in the top 4 considering that this team continues to lose, it can be called inconsistent.

Is it because of the difficult situation that Eddie Howe is currently experiencing? Several players have suffered injuries and those are the main players while so far Tonali is still far free from punishment plus his poor performance has become more suffering for Newcastle.

Totally agree! So far I haven't received any news regarding signings for Newcastle even though they have a lot of money to spend on players, utilizing the transfer market this winter will be very good but it depends on how Eddie Howe and the management do it.

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And it turns out our predictions were wrong. ha ha ha I was really surprised when I saw the final result of Arsenal vs West Ham 0 - 2. Arsenal lost. Yes, but this is the result. Arsenal are good at playing but bad at goal execution. It's quite a disappointing result. This time, they must completely lose the point.

And today, they will compete against Fullham. Don't let them make the same mistake, namely only winning in ball possession but not executing the goal. Arsenal must do it this time. If not, their position will be increasingly threatened and the points will be further away. Currently the top positions in the EPL are very competitive so they really have to be careful.

The results of Arsenal in recent weeks have been disturbing. They lost 2-1 to Fulham which was not expected even though Fulham was on full point.
I didn't expect Arsenal to win the league last season but I knew they wouldn't win the league this season. I knew they wouldn't be among the top teams this season, but they should have been able to fight for the top 4. They started the season well but now they're just losing up and down.
Now Arsenal is in 4th position while Manchester City is in 3rd.
Tottenham is on 5th hunting badly for a spot in the Champions League.

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Now Newcastle has more defeats than draws, it can be said that the performance of the current season has dropped dramatically because it cannot be in the top 4 considering that this team continues to lose, it can be called inconsistent.

Is it because of the difficult situation that Eddie Howe is currently experiencing? Several players have suffered injuries and those are the main players while so far Tonali is still far free from punishment plus his poor performance has become more suffering for Newcastle.

Totally agree! So far I haven't received any news regarding signings for Newcastle even though they have a lot of money to spend on players, utilizing the transfer market this winter will be very good but it depends on how Eddie Howe and the management do it.
The current decline in team performance is basically a sign that Newcastle is not ready for all the tough competition in the Premier League. Their game strategy is no different from last season, but they are too weak for some of the lower and mid-table teams. This is difficult to accept considering that Eddie Howe managed to bring Newcastle to a Champions League finish last season, but this season everything is different for him.

I don't think Newcastle is one of the teams that is greedy when it comes to spending on players. Management does not want to spend a lot of money in one season and prefers to save the budget, but the impact of this cannot help Newcastle appear impressive because what Newcastle needs is the quality of its players rather than just high motivation and vision of the game.

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January 03, 2024, 07:52:18 PM

Salah probably will not play a few matches due to the AFCON. If Liverpool starts to lose points now then it would be a good chance for them to get the top spot. Manchester City are also chasing now so things are getting very exciting.
Jurgen Klopp will have to draw his mappings again because one of his key players is leaving the club, a big threat for them to start declining in performance. Not only Mohammed Salah,  there are other players that will be leaving their perspective clubs and focused on AFCON, some of these players are call up by their country while some doesn't fall favorite. You're pointing out the fact that Liverpool can not survive without the presence of Mohammed Salah? I don't think so because he would be be gone for a while and he will ensure he return back to the club as soon as he's services ends for his country Egypt.
I don’t know why people think that Liverpool would suffer when Salah leaves for Afcon. Honestly to me I think without Salah Liverpool will do well. They have been through this before and they didn’t look like they missed him then. They have quality players that can do the damage in his absence.  

In fact with Salah, Liverpool is very predictable. Because as the press begins from the right hand side,Salah dictates from the right. The others watches his movement before engaging. But without Salah..Liverpool are unpredictable.
Gakpo returns to his favorite position on the left. Nunez goes through the middle and I can see Diogo Jota/ Elliot on the right. They'd engage their double 8's more in attack and Arnold remains the chief creator
Nothing changes. Just that they'd be very unpredictable. They have options and I trust Klopp to use the available players effectively.
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January 03, 2024, 08:01:08 PM

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At the beginning of the season no one saw Liverpool coming, they played badly and at a time was battling to move to the big six, it was all Manchester city and Arsenal.
Now Liverpool sit 5 points clear of Arsenal and Manchester city with Aston villa their closest rivals.
I think in terms of consistency Liverpool are better than Arsenal and has a better chance of maintaining the top spot and would be Manchester city main adversary to them defending their premier league title.
I thought Liverpool will not meet up again in this season until they began to show some signs that made many people to believed that their coach has done something positive that will make them to do what they couldn't do last season to returned back to first position. If care is not taking, Liverpool will be the team that will lift this trophy this season because Arsenal everybody think that will lift the trophy have failed in some games that made Liverpool to use huge amount of points to gap them in the premier league table.

I'm not the fans of Liverpool but as it stand now in the premier league competition, Liverpool will be the team that will win this trophy because they are capable to withstand any team in this season to achieve victory which they have done to many teams in this tournament.

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January 03, 2024, 08:01:55 PM

I really think that Arsenal would be able to carry out a good counter attack so they could turn things around. but it turned out they actually lost quite embarrassingly 0 - 2, without a goal in return, even though they were playing at home. ....
The overhyped Arsenal didn't meet up the expectations, they settle for a loss and that's one of the pure weaknesses of Gunners this season. They don't know how to take chances, this was simply their chance to top the table but they relent and didn't grab any golden chance.
Seriously, whatever the reasons, this is pure weaknesses. Moreover, this didn't just happen once, but there was a series of previous matches where Arsenal was also unable to optimize enough chances. What's worse, Arsenal also lost to Fulham in the next match. This isn't bad luck, right? But it is pure weakness as you said. The problem now is that Arsenal are not very convincing, especially in their front line. I'm sure Arteta is confused about the condition of the team. It's not just their performance that has declined, but automatically their position at the standing table... This has even gotten worse. And let's wait and see how they will be in the next match and how Arteta will be able to re-manage his squad, especially to face difficult matches in the EPL and UCL, of course.

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January 03, 2024, 08:06:36 PM

I really think that Arsenal would be able to carry out a good counter attack so they could turn things around. but it turned out they actually lost quite embarrassingly 0 - 2, without a goal in return, even though they were playing at home. ....
The overhyped Arsenal didn't meet up the expectations, they settle for a loss and that's one of the pure weaknesses of Gunners this season. They don't know how to take chances, this was simply their chance to top the table but they relent and didn't grab any golden chance.
Seriously, whatever the reasons, this is pure weaknesses. Moreover, this didn't just happen once, but there was a series of previous matches where Arsenal was also unable to optimize enough chances. What's worse, Arsenal also lost to Fulham in the next match. This isn't bad luck, right? But it is pure weakness as you said. The problem now is that Arsenal are not very convincing, especially in their front line. I'm sure Arteta is confused about the condition of the team. It's not just their performance that has declined, but automatically their position at the standing table... This has even gotten worse. And let's wait and see how they will be in the next match and how Arteta will be able to re-manage his squad, especially to face difficult matches in the EPL and UCL, of course.

Of course is not bad luck.Bad luck is when it hits you once,twice or triple times the maximum but when you keep losing games against weaker opponents it is not bad luck anymore,it is lack of psychological preparation to the players,they don't feel quite confident that they can win any game.I doubt Arsenal players underestimate their opponents as they know where they are and they need to keep winning in order to have a chance to be back fighting for the title which looks extremely difficult right now.

It is not enough anymore to fight in the title fight and lose it every time because of your own mistakes,there is something definitely wrong with Arsenal which needs to be fixed right away.

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