Eredivisie 23/24 - discussion thread

[casperBGD]

they have three games to play, one this round, and their position will eventually change, but Ajax will spend this evening in relegation zone

that is probably least expected ever to see from their fans, and things have to change and change quickly

AZ game tomorrow is all but easy, and odds @2.35 for Ajax home win is something that wasn't seen even in derbies against PSV and Feyenoord
interesting season

[Weawant]

Go ahead eagle won Heracles to cing the Sixth position on the tables with thirteen points, Heracles was able to secure no goal as go ahead eagles was at home and made sure to take full advantage of their home over Heracles. Go ahead eagles had the most of goal attempts but Heracles possessed the ball the most but then the most important was get the full points which was what Go ahead eagles did with a broad margin.

Heerenveen drew against Nijmegen, heerenveen played from home but sti had to share to points with Nijmegen, although they didn't loose they so didn't perform well enough, a they were dispossessed of the ball and had multiple shots on target which they could possibly convert to a goal but didn't, they are at thirteenth position while nijimegen is at tenth position on the table.

The last game in the eredivise was between vitesse and excelsior which ended a goalless draw so both teams again had to share one point each and staying on the 5rh position for excelsior and 12th position for vitesse.

[Docnaster]

Another dark game in the history and current situation of Ajax Amsterdam, 3 goals down despite having much more possession, then the fan riots, the interruption and finally the abandonment of the game.

Mislintat has now also been fired, I can't assess it 100% but I think it's good that he's leaving Ajax, allegedly he ignored the talent scouts and with the transfer of Borna Sosa not everything went right.

Ajax has been a shadow of themselves since the start of the season and doesn't look like that Ajax that was destroying teams in both the Dutch league and in the UEFA Champions League competition in the past.
After they're  were beaten at home against Feyenoord last weekend, I  think they're gonna find a way to defeat AZ Alkmaar tomorrow in other to keep their title hopes alive.

[Webetcoins]

Today we are having all top teams in action with early action for the defending champions Feyenoord against Zwolle as they are coming from tough challenging match against Atlético Madrid even they lost, but their performance was really impressive now they are going to keep their fight at good level for the top spot.

Ajax which is currently at the bottom in relegation zone after having five games with just one win and two draw having AZ Alkmaar even things are looking not good for the Ajax which is surely having troubling time, but we can expect good performance from the both sides and AZ Alkmaar will try to keep themselves at the second spot with the win.

Current league leaders are going to visit Sparta Rotterdam for eight win in this season as right now they are having best run without any lost and concede only two goals from their last seven games in league this could be one-sided affair for them.

[LTU_btc]

Today we are having all top teams in action with early action for the defending champions Feyenoord against Zwolle as they are coming from tough challenging match against Atlético Madrid even they lost, but their performance was really impressive now they are going to keep their fight at good level for the top spot.

Ajax which is currently at the bottom in relegation zone after having five games with just one win and two draw having AZ Alkmaar even things are looking not good for the Ajax which is surely having troubling time, but we can expect good performance from the both sides and AZ Alkmaar will try to keep themselves at the second spot with the win.

Current league leaders are going to visit Sparta Rotterdam for eight win in this season as right now they are having best run without any lost and concede only two goals from their last seven games in league this could be one-sided affair for them.

It's going to be interesting day in Eredivisie. It looks that Feyenoord have easiest opponent and I doubt that they will have problems against Zwolle.
Ajax - AZ, that moment when Ajax is so bad that even playing at home they're not favorites. Difficult to predict something here, so, I got with BTTS @2.40.
Twente have difficult away game with Fortuna Sittard and 1.90 odds for their wins looks attractive.
I'm not so confident that Sparta - PSV will be one sided game. Sparta is good team, especially playing at home.

[casperBGD]

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Ajax - AZ, that moment when Ajax is so bad that even playing at home they're not favorites. Difficult to predict something here, so, I got with BTTS @2.40.

AZ left Ajax in relegation zone
at least your bet passed
Ajax has three loses in a row, and it really does seem their crisis is big, and international break is on right time for them to consolidate

all other favorites took easy wins, it was just PSV that needed more than half-time to broke their opponent, but scored most goals in the end

[LTU_btc]

AZ left Ajax in relegation zone
at least your bet passed
Ajax has three loses in a row, and it really does seem their crisis is big, and international break is on right time for them to consolidate

all other favorites took easy wins, it was just PSV that needed more than half-time to broke their opponent, but scored most goals in the end

It's just painful to watch Ajax this season and I'm not even Ajax fan, how they should feel now... It's true that international break came at right time because otherwise they could fall even deeper. I would be surprised if they won't sack their coach in next few days. But with squad that they have, I'm not sure who would be able to save their season.

[Volgastallion]

How many people can guess after 8 rounds Ajax was gonna be in relegation zone? I answer 0, impossible, this mark how bad this crisis is.

What was the last time Ajax was in this places? Asides of Eredivisie, i dont remember a similar crisis in a team in big leagues, only Chelsea last season being bad but not this bad.

[snipie]

How many people can guess after 8 rounds Ajax was gonna be in relegation zone? I answer 0, impossible, this mark how bad this crisis is.

What was the last time Ajax was in this places? Asides of Eredivisie, i dont remember a similar crisis in a team in big leagues, only Chelsea last season being bad but not this bad.

It is hard to say top teams in Ligue 1 since old and recent ones are fluctuating a lot from a season to another but Lyon are doing horrible with 0 victory and they are obviously sitting in the relegation zone. Lens, ended among top 4 last season and they are hovering around the relegation zone this season. Manchester United in the beginning of the last season were doing very bad in the end of the table but they woke up after Ten Hag joined them. For Ajax, I believe they have to figure out a way to fix their successive failures. It is sad to see a team like them performing like that. Management but also players should wake up and work hard to being the team to a competitive spot since with 15 - 19 goals difference, I doubt they could fight for the first spot or even top 4 ones..

[temple]

How many people can guess after 8 rounds Ajax was gonna be in relegation zone? I answer 0, impossible, this mark how bad this crisis is.

What was the last time Ajax was in this places? Asides of Eredivisie, i dont remember a similar crisis in a team in big leagues, only Chelsea last season being bad but not this bad.

It is hard to say top teams in Ligue 1 since old and recent ones are fluctuating a lot from a season to another but Lyon are doing horrible with 0 victory and they are obviously sitting in the relegation zone. Lens, ended among top 4 last season and they are hovering around the relegation zone this season. Manchester United in the beginning of the last season were doing very bad in the end of the table but they woke up after Ten Hag joined them. For Ajax, I believe they have to figure out a way to fix their successive failures. It is sad to see a team like them performing like that. Management but also players should wake up and work hard to being the team to a competitive spot since with 15 - 19 goals difference, I doubt they could fight for the first spot or even top 4 ones..

But this downfall of Ajax Amsterdam is more like Manchester City dropping to relegation zone in two years from now. Ajax Amsterdam has been this far outstanding team next to PSV in the Eredivisie. Ajax Amsterdam and PSV have for very long been in a very unique position in the league and usually the title could not have been won by any other team except when these two teams had severe issues during a season. Ajax has been the champions from 2019 - 2022 for yours years in a row. Now it is pretty crazy because it doesn't look like they just have some minor problems and they will be solved in just a few weeks time. It looks like they might be struggling like never before this season.

[Volgastallion]

How many people can guess after 8 rounds Ajax was gonna be in relegation zone? I answer 0, impossible, this mark how bad this crisis is.

What was the last time Ajax was in this places? Asides of Eredivisie, i dont remember a similar crisis in a team in big leagues, only Chelsea last season being bad but not this bad.

It is hard to say top teams in Ligue 1 since old and recent ones are fluctuating a lot from a season to another but Lyon are doing horrible with 0 victory and they are obviously sitting in the relegation zone. Lens, ended among top 4 last season and they are hovering around the relegation zone this season. Manchester United in the beginning of the last season were doing very bad in the end of the table but they woke up after Ten Hag joined them. For Ajax, I believe they have to figure out a way to fix their successive failures. It is sad to see a team like them performing like that. Management but also players should wake up and work hard to being the team to a competitive spot since with 15 - 19 goals difference, I doubt they could fight for the first spot or even top 4 ones..

Yeah men i forgot about that one, Lyon is doing very poorly and i also dont know why. But Lyon is not so historical big than Ajax for his own league.

Now we have 4 teams in top positions with a gap of only 4 points and 3 of them without losing a game.

[CLS63]

This is really a call for help by Ajax this season. They have changed 3 managers in a really short time period. But this hasn't ended up well for them at all. They are even in worse condition now. Maurice Steijn would be the next manager to get sacked soon which wouldn't be surprising to be honest. 

Since Erik ten Hag left this team they haven't been able to do a good work for real. But it has taken them a really long time to see some progress and there is still none. I wonder whether there are managerial issues with the whole team. I have heard that Louis van Gaal was appointed as advisor a week ago but I don't know whether this will change anything.

[Weawant]

I don't know what is more shameful - how Ajax is playing or how their fans is behaving. 0:3 after 45 minutes and soon in 2nd half fans started throwing flares into pitch. As I understand, game is abandoned and won't be resumed.
https://twitter.com/TheEuropeanLad/status/1705946868880904224
It's not just about Ajax, but in general, similar things happens in almost every big game involved by Ajax, Feyenoord, PSV or Twente. What's wrong with this league? I hope that league finally will take serious actions because such things can't continue.

I dont want to be that annoying guy who said " I said it" , but if anyone relook the thread i said in the beginning of the season this Ajax not start well and also can be very bad if they dont wake up fast, but asides of that thinking i dont expect this bad, they have a very good team in names, i dont really kinow what its happen.

Ajax is now so poor with their performance as compared to their form last season, this season they have recorded one of the worse of their performance, they conceed goals so much that is almost frequent with all their matches in recent times, they struggle to win matches unlike last season where they had steaks of winnings back to back.

Their fans on the other hand are becoming more aggressive than they used to be, probably because they are not used to so much defeat coming at them serially, this season they have recorded two or more games been abandoned due to the reaction of the fans after some minutes into losses and they feel there's no hope for a comeback and of course the players play in a style that doesn't seem as if they could possibly get a comeback. The decline in ajax is jus so bad I just hope they don't get relegated or sanctioned before the season ends because the players are underperforming and the fans are worse with coordinating themselves especially when suffering a loss.

[Koal-84]

AZ left Ajax in relegation zone
at least your bet passed
Ajax has three loses in a row, and it really does seem their crisis is big, and international break is on right time for them to consolidate

all other favorites took easy wins, it was just PSV that needed more than half-time to broke their opponent, but scored most goals in the end

Has there ever been a season where Ajax was so bad and didn't win 5 games in a row in the Eredivisie and is now even at the relegation place? Ajax almost have to win the next game against the last team in the table, but it will be difficult with the Europa Cup places for next season.

The top four are playing through their games and currently have a four-way race for the top of the table.

[casperBGD]

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Has there ever been a season where Ajax was so bad and didn't win 5 games in a row in the Eredivisie and is now even at the relegation place?

not sure, but can't remember Ajax being so bad recently
they are just bad, AZ and Feyenoord easy wins on their pitch are almost hard to call derbies, Ajax looked as relegation fighting team trying to save bare life against them, and playing at home turf

all being said, Stein is still in position, with 2 wins from 10 matches played, probably worst debut in Ajax history

[Rampagoe004]

Has there ever been a season where Ajax was so bad and didn't win 5 games in a row in the Eredivisie and is now even at the relegation place? Ajax almost have to win the next game against the last team in the table, but it will be difficult with the Europa Cup places for next season.

Ajax are the worst this season as far as I'm concerned. Last season they only suffered 5 defeats at the end of the season but now they have even suffered 3 defeats before even reaching the halfway point of the season. I'm not even sure about talking about the European league for Ajax. I haven't watched the Eredivise for a long time and I was very surprised by Ajax's performance this season. Ajax must win the game against the last team in the standings to get them back on a positive track.

[temple]

Has there ever been a season where Ajax was so bad and didn't win 5 games in a row in the Eredivisie and is now even at the relegation place? Ajax almost have to win the next game against the last team in the table, but it will be difficult with the Europa Cup places for next season.

Ajax are the worst this season as far as I'm concerned. Last season they only suffered 5 defeats at the end of the season but now they have even suffered 3 defeats before even reaching the halfway point of the season. I'm not even sure about talking about the European league for Ajax. I haven't watched the Eredivise for a long time and I was very surprised by Ajax's performance this season. Ajax must win the game against the last team in the standings to get them back on a positive track.

If it was only the 3 defeats but the rest would have been wins, at least they would still be showing up in the upper half of the table, but this is looking terribly bad for them. This start into the season is like so bad that more losses and draws should most likely be expected. This doesn't look like a former champions has a few little problems and will soon be shining again. This rather is like they will have serious problems to get out of the relegation zone anytime soon. But bad results are only one part of the whole story once it enfolds. If Ajax plays a bad season, they have to fear more players willing to leave the club, which makes the situation even worse entailing long term consequences for them.

[casperBGD]

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If Ajax plays a bad season, they have to fear more players willing to leave the club, which makes the situation even worse entailing long term consequences for them.

next match against Utrecht on Sunday, and Ajax is favored by bookies to win it, although their form and being away match
not sure if that is good to take

match looks like derby, with former champions and top table contender, but Utrecht is also having a bad moment, being rock bottom with only three points so far
struggling derby, I would say

[Slow death]

In two days the league games will resume, Ajax is in a terrible position, even reaching the point of being in the relegation zone, it's shocking to see this:



In the last 5 games Ajax unbelievably failed to win at least 1 game, this is something very serious, they are now fighting to get out of the relegation zone, while they were a team that was constantly at the top fighting and winning the title. Seeing them going through this bad phase is something sad, and in the next game they will play against another team that is in the relegation zone, but that at least in the last 5 games has won 1 game, so this will be a very important game for Ajax who needs to win this game to move away from the relegation zone

unfortunately, this is my opinion, ajax no longer has a chance of fighting for the title this season, I highly doubt that they will be able to improve their performance much before January, they need to fight to have an acceptable performance while they wait for the transfer window to open so they can hire more good players to reinforce the team and with that they could fight to stay in the 3rd to 5th position at most, but also as they say that in football anything can happen, I won't be surprised if they also don't manage to stay in the 3rd to 5th position and end up in very irrelevant positions.

The saddest thing is that the season is just beginning and even so, we are seeing them so bad that it is already expected that they have no chance of fighting for the title, and that they are fighting to not be relegated, it is unbelievable. I don't know what the hell happened to them to end up in this sad situation

[Volgastallion]

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If Ajax plays a bad season, they have to fear more players willing to leave the club, which makes the situation even worse entailing long term consequences for them.

next match against Utrecht on Sunday, and Ajax is favored by bookies to win it, although their form and being away match
not sure if that is good to take

match looks like derby, with former champions and top table contender, but Utrecht is also having a bad moment, being rock bottom with only three points so far
struggling derby, I would say

I think after this international break we can start to see a recovery from Ajax, they have time to train and to cool down a little bit the head and the organization. The BIG problem can come if they dont win this weekend because this can make much more deep crisis.