Boxing Speculation, Odds and Predictions

[LUCKMCFLY]

The organization itself will find ways to connect him to Inoue. Marketing both fighters is no longer hard, as they already have that trash talk connection, just need to add more ideas to bring a huge fire.

The thing here is if the promoter of Inoue would consider a fight with Casimero.  It was Bob Arum's fault that the second chance for both boxer to fight got dissolve.  Remember the 1st fight were canceled due to the pandemic and the second possible fight did not materialize because Bob Arum has a different thing in mind.  The fight Inoue - Moloney should be Inoue - Casimero but then Bob Arum has another plan and agreed with the Inoue - Moloney.

It is indeed easy for these to boxer to meet in the ring but their promoter made it difficult.

Bob Arum is more on the money side, if there are many readers who can be converted to a possible viewer/ticket sales, maybe Arum will consider this possibility, for now, he still leaning with his cash cow Inoue and he needs to maximize all the profits that he can earned from his champ, still have a chance for Casimero but like what I said above he need to make his way to bring his name up inside the division and force the fans to bring him to an option for Inoue's fight.

I think it's more on Inoue's fault why he didn't get the chance to fight Inoue. All he had to do is make weight and win the fight against Butler. Now, it's getter harder for him to call out Inoue because he has no belt and not even recognized top 5 in any of the body in his new weight class.

So forget about Casimero for now, the focus of Arum is Inoue against the champion in 122 lbs like Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev. That is where the money is right now, not Casimero to be honest.

Yes, it's Casimero's fault why he didn't get that chance. I know it's just a typo from your statement, but it's really a missed opportunity to defend his title and take that fight against Butler. A mandatory fight that might bring them both in the situation where he and Inoue will not have any chance aside from climbing to another division if ever both of them still holding the belts.

We might have another chance if, in case that fate really brings them inside the ring, both Casimero will be in 122lbs a great chance to see them if they will continue fighting and winning their ways for the title belts.

In view of all these speculations, I would just like to see Inoue in action, I don't care who he is with, be it Canelo, Bivol with whomever, but I want to see the debut of a new weight and category for Inoue, because this The boxer has proven to be a genius in every sense of the word, I don't know if these things cause cirity in others but in my personal opinion I want to see this boxer in a scenario where he does not dominate and is proactically new in every way. What I want is to see this boxer in action, and I think he himself wants it too and the eyes of the world are expectantly waiting.


Boxing News: Naoya Inoue drops undisputed / WBC 130 belt set

Naoya Inoue is moving in weight and relinquishing his undisputed status as the ultimate ruler in the bantamweight division.

The Japanese fighter has notified the World Boxing Council that he will vacate its title to move up to the super bantamweight division.

He also intends to inform the IBF, WBO, and WBA of his decision.

Source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/01/14/boxing-news-naoya-inoue-undisputed-super-feather/

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[danherbias07]

In view of all these speculations, I would just like to see Inoue in action, I don't care who he is with, be it Canelo, Bivol with whomever, but I want to see the debut of a new weight and category for Inoue, because this The boxer has proven to be a genius in every sense of the word, I don't know if these things cause cirity in others but in my personal opinion I want to see this boxer in a scenario where he does not dominate and is proactically new in every way. What I want is to see this boxer in action, and I think he himself wants it too and the eyes of the world are expectantly waiting.


Boxing News: Naoya Inoue drops undisputed / WBC 130 belt set

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Naoya Inoue is moving in weight and relinquishing his undisputed status as the ultimate ruler in the bantamweight division.

The Japanese fighter has notified the World Boxing Council that he will vacate its title to move up to the super bantamweight division.

He also intends to inform the IBF, WBO, and WBA of his decision.

Source: https://www.worldboxingnews.net/2023/01/14/boxing-news-naoya-inoue-undisputed-super-feather/

Holy crap it's real.

TOKYO -- Japanese boxer Naoya Inoue is giving up his four bantamweight belts and plans to fight as a junior featherweight.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/35437550/undefeated-naoya-inoue-moving-super-bantamweight
So what he said in his recent interviews are all clues of what he will do. Sorry for the bantamweights who had been aiming to fight him and stain his perfect record.
Now this will probably make the super bantamweight more exciting, I bet all the top boxers in that weight class are all in ecstasy to have a piece of him too.
I love watching this guy fight too, there's the entertainment factor and the unexpected so that you won't miss any round of the fight.
The big question: Can he really do it? Take all the belts in the upper division? I can't wait for his next fight.

[Yaunfitda]

^^ For now we can't say if he can do it or not, but if you look at the opposition, it seems that Inoue can make at least 2 of the 4 belts and only two boxers have so far held it Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev.

So if given the chance to fight either one of them in his next fight in this new division then he has a chance to win another belt.

Or if his team decided to take a tune up match, then we will have to wait, but the chance are high since Inoue now has evolved to be one of the best boxers in this era, pound for pound.

[Fredomago]

^^ For now we can't say if he can do it or not, but if you look at the opposition, it seems that Inoue can make at least 2 of the 4 belts and only two boxers have so far held it Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev.

So if given the chance to fight either one of them in his next fight in this new division then he has a chance to win another belt.

Or if his team decided to take a tune up match, then we will have to wait, but the chance are high since Inoue now has evolved to be one of the best boxers in this era, pound for pound.

The decision still depends from the negotiation that will take place, either way it will be a good challenge in this new division that he will get in, if Arum will go to the direction where he will risk his cash-cow, challenging the current champ will be a good moneymaker. It is worth the risk, since if ever Inoue will win the fight, then a belt will be in his hand and the value of his next challenge will be much bigger.

[Distinctin]

Sorry for the bantamweights who had been aiming to fight him and stain his perfect record.

They'll be happy that Inoue vacates the bantamweight, now the competition will be fair because Inoue is just too dominant, no boxer that had a close match with him, except for Donaire, but in the rematch, he proved that he is far more superior.

Now this will probably make the super bantamweight more exciting, I bet all the top boxers in that weight class are all in ecstasy to have a piece of him too.
I love watching this guy fight too, there's the entertainment factor and the unexpected so that you won't miss any round of the fight.
The big question: Can he really do it? Take all the belts in the upper division? I can't wait for his next fight.

There's only one way to determine if he can do it, that is to see him fight his closest rank or a champion if possible. What about Casimero? I believe they are on the same weight class now, there fight should happen soon, it will be very exciting to watch.

[Kasabus]

There's a news where Ra'eese Aleem calling out Naoya Inoue to fight with him, he was won WBA interim belt at 2021 and currently become the top 6 boxer in super bantamweight boxer. If it's happen, I think there's no way Casimero can fight with Inoue since he's not even on top 10.

Aleem is really confident enough and seems like many articles are discuss about possible fight between him and Inoue.

"I would love to be the first man to hand Naoya Inoue his first loss," said Aleem. "I believe Inoue is a true champion, one who is willing to take on all comers, unlike some of the champions in my division currently. He is regarded as one of the best fighters of his era, and I truly see myself as the man to dethrone him."

This got a chance because it's like hitting two birds at once, and Bob Arum might favor this scenario because if Inoue will fight Aleem who got the WBA interim belt and it turns out good, Inoue will now have the choice to pick and fight either of the two current champions as he will be named as the WBA interim champion to fight Murodjon and the WBO super-champion to fight Fulton.

[Vaculin]

Sorry for the bantamweights who had been aiming to fight him and stain his perfect record.

They'll be happy that Inoue vacates the bantamweight, now the competition will be fair because Inoue is just too dominant, no boxer that had a close match with him, except for Donaire, but in the rematch, he proved that he is far more superior.

Now this will probably make the super bantamweight more exciting, I bet all the top boxers in that weight class are all in ecstasy to have a piece of him too.
I love watching this guy fight too, there's the entertainment factor and the unexpected so that you won't miss any round of the fight.
The big question: Can he really do it? Take all the belts in the upper division? I can't wait for his next fight.

There's only one way to determine if he can do it, that is to see him fight his closest rank or a champion if possible. What about Casimero? I believe they are on the same weight class now, there fight should happen soon, it will be very exciting to watch.

This is the reason why Donaire suddenly changed his course after knowing that Inoue will vacate all the belts once he climbs the next weight class, supposedly Donaire will go down at 115 pounds in super-flyweight division because he knows that he won't be holding any belts while Inoue is still in bantam weight but after knowing the fact, he is now maintaining the weight and I've heard that he's already scheduled to fight once WBO belt was vacated. Correct me if I'm wrong.

[chaser15]

Now this will probably make the super bantamweight more exciting, I bet all the top boxers in that weight class are all in ecstasy to have a piece of him too.

Names are exciting but only if the best fights that the boxing fans want will be organized and no such thing as ducking or pure business purposes.

I bet all the top boxers in that weight class are all in ecstasy to have a piece of him too.

I doubt. Top boxers do have their own promotions and are under contract with a certain network.

That was a clear suicide for their talent if Inoue will be the target right away.

Only champions will have the chance to face Inoue early as may be part of the mandatory fight, depending on the mood swing of the boxing councils.

The big question: Can he really do it? Take all the belts in the upper division? I can't wait for his next fight.

The answer is always yes but the chances are undetermined.

118lbs to 122lbs isn't a big change of environment and if Inoue will skip facing the champions here for the meantime but instead face other opponents as a warm up, with just 2-3 fights, he can adapt right away how boxing is supposed to be in the 122lbs.

[Baofeng]

Sorry for the bantamweights who had been aiming to fight him and stain his perfect record.

They'll be happy that Inoue vacates the bantamweight, now the competition will be fair because Inoue is just too dominant, no boxer that had a close match with him, except for Donaire, but in the rematch, he proved that he is far more superior.

Now this will probably make the super bantamweight more exciting, I bet all the top boxers in that weight class are all in ecstasy to have a piece of him too.
I love watching this guy fight too, there's the entertainment factor and the unexpected so that you won't miss any round of the fight.
The big question: Can he really do it? Take all the belts in the upper division? I can't wait for his next fight.

There's only one way to determine if he can do it, that is to see him fight his closest rank or a champion if possible. What about Casimero? I believe they are on the same weight class now, there fight should happen soon, it will be very exciting to watch.

This is the reason why Donaire suddenly changed his course after knowing that Inoue will vacate all the belts once he climbs the next weight class, supposedly Donaire will go down at 115 pounds in super-flyweight division because he knows that he won't be holding any belts while Inoue is still in bantam weight but after knowing the fact, he is now maintaining the weight and I've heard that he's already scheduled to fight once WBO belt was vacated. Correct me if I'm wrong.

Facts, Donaire said that he wants to challenge the winner of Estrada vs Chocolatito at 115 lbs, and we all know that Estrada won that fight already. But Donaire is old and it might be dangerous for him going down to 115 lbs as this point in his career.

But since Inoue has officially left the 118 lbs, and now the body is looking for him and others to have a fight and sort of eliminator as who will get one of Inoue's belt then for sure Nonito will stay here again and try to make a second run with another championship on his belt. The field is open now but he will have the inside track. Him and Moloney for the WBC belt.

[harizen]

This is the reason why Donaire suddenly changed his course after knowing that Inoue will vacate all the belts once he climbs the next weight class, supposedly Donaire will go down at 115 pounds in super-flyweight division because he knows that he won't be holding any belts while Inoue is still in bantam weight but after knowing the fact, he is now maintaining the weight and I've heard that he's already scheduled to fight once WBO belt was vacated. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not that Donaire suddenly changed his course but it was an option right from the start. It's just that some conditions were met.

As you mentioned, WBC mandated a fight involving Donaire if Naoya Inoue decided to vacate all his belts in the bantamweight.

Moving forward, since Inoue now officially moved up weight, Donaire will now instead push on the better option which is competing again in the WBC Bantamweight title against Australian's Jason “Mayhem” Moloney.

[danherbias07]

The answer is always yes but the chances are undetermined.

118lbs to 122lbs isn't a big change of environment and if Inoue will skip facing the champions here for the meantime but instead face other opponents as a warm up, with just 2-3 fights, he can adapt right away how boxing is supposed to be in the 122lbs.

True. It's not that far. I have seen fighters who had a hard time being in a new weight class especially if it's going for a heavier weight. Going slow, keeping up with the pace, rhythm, and so on. But it's not like he jumped for 3 weight classes, it's just one up so I think he can handle it, he ain't also that small to make an adjustment.

Sorry for the bantamweights who had been aiming to fight him and stain his perfect record.

They'll be happy that Inoue vacates the bantamweight, now the competition will be fair because Inoue is just too dominant, no boxer that had a close match with him, except for Donaire, but in the rematch, he proved that he is far more superior.

Who will be the pair here to fight for the belts left by Inoue? I have not seen some news yet about a fight for the title. Any share will be greatly appreciated, thanks.
At this point, will it be Rodriguez (1) vs Moloney (2) first before others will have their chances to steal it from them? I mean, the rankings must have some use that's why it was there and not just to enumerate them by strength.

[btc_angela]

This is the reason why Donaire suddenly changed his course after knowing that Inoue will vacate all the belts once he climbs the next weight class, supposedly Donaire will go down at 115 pounds in super-flyweight division because he knows that he won't be holding any belts while Inoue is still in bantam weight but after knowing the fact, he is now maintaining the weight and I've heard that he's already scheduled to fight once WBO belt was vacated. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not that Donaire suddenly changed his course but it was an option right from the start. It's just that some conditions were met.

As you mentioned, WBC mandated a fight involving Donaire if Naoya Inoue decided to vacate all his belts in the bantamweight.

Moving forward, since Inoue now officially moved up weight, Donaire will now instead push on the better option which is competing again in the WBC Bantamweight title against Australian's Jason “Mayhem” Moloney.

I guess though the condition still base on Inoue, and now that he has official going to super bantamweight, it make sense for Donaire to stay at the bantamweight and fight against Moloney for the vacant belt.

And if by chance Inoue decided for at least fight another one in the bantamweight, it's either Donaire moving down to 115 lbs and could remain semi retired. But the good thing is that the first condition has been met so Donaire will have another crack to get his belt back.

[Fredomago]

This is the reason why Donaire suddenly changed his course after knowing that Inoue will vacate all the belts once he climbs the next weight class, supposedly Donaire will go down at 115 pounds in super-flyweight division because he knows that he won't be holding any belts while Inoue is still in bantam weight but after knowing the fact, he is now maintaining the weight and I've heard that he's already scheduled to fight once WBO belt was vacated. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not that Donaire suddenly changed his course but it was an option right from the start. It's just that some conditions were met.

As you mentioned, WBC mandated a fight involving Donaire if Naoya Inoue decided to vacate all his belts in the bantamweight.

Moving forward, since Inoue now officially moved up weight, Donaire will now instead push on the better option which is competing again in the WBC Bantamweight title against Australian's Jason “Mayhem” Moloney.

A good way to re-try holding another belt, glad to see that he still active and still not retiring even at his age, he will now go to take that opportunity to push for his old title back against Moloney after Inoue decided to climb to the new division. I still believe that Donaire can win this fight. He still has that fighting, momentum just not enough to hold the monster.

But this possible mandatory fight can give him another exposure either to retire with a belt or to pursue for more money fight while he still can, depending on how would be the outcome.

[Jawhead999]

There's a rematch between Stephen Fulton vs Brandon Figueroa, Figueroa was once a WBO super bantamweight champion, this is a revenge match where Figueroa want to get back his belt and steal WBO belt from Fulton. Looking at their previous fight, Fulton is really dominating the fight and Figueroa only can compete Fulton for few rounds only. So it's not surprising to see the odds for Fulton is 1.32x while Figueroa is 3.80x.

The fight is expected will happen on 26th February 2023.

[freedomgo]

This is the reason why Donaire suddenly changed his course after knowing that Inoue will vacate all the belts once he climbs the next weight class, supposedly Donaire will go down at 115 pounds in super-flyweight division because he knows that he won't be holding any belts while Inoue is still in bantam weight but after knowing the fact, he is now maintaining the weight and I've heard that he's already scheduled to fight once WBO belt was vacated. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not that Donaire suddenly changed his course but it was an option right from the start. It's just that some conditions were met.

As you mentioned, WBC mandated a fight involving Donaire if Naoya Inoue decided to vacate all his belts in the bantamweight.

Moving forward, since Inoue now officially moved up weight, Donaire will now instead push on the better option which is competing again in the WBC Bantamweight title against Australian's Jason “Mayhem” Moloney.

I guess though the condition still base on Inoue, and now that he has official going to super bantamweight, it make sense for Donaire to stay at the bantamweight and fight against Moloney for the vacant belt.

And if by chance Inoue decided for at least fight another one in the bantamweight, it's either Donaire moving down to 115 lbs and could remain semi retired. But the good thing is that the first condition has been met so Donaire will have another crack to get his belt back.

Also, Donaire is more suited in the bantamweight division rather than looking for a title at 115 pounds as I'm inclined that his career might end sooner that what he expected. Having a fight against Moloney for the vacant title is already a good opportunity for Donaire to display his prowess again in this division that he was once a champion, it will be a perfect bout for him to test if he can still do few more fights or it's time for him to hang up his gloves.

[harizen]

Also, Donaire is more suited in the bantamweight division rather than looking for a title at 115 pounds as I'm inclined that his career might end sooner that what he expected. Having a fight against Moloney for the vacant title is already a good opportunity for Donaire to display his prowess again in this division that he was once a champion, it will be a perfect bout for him to test if he can still do few more fights or it's time for him to hang up his gloves.

Honestly, Donaire returning to 115 lbs is a good option for me knowing that he's already on a retirement period, and getting a title here shouldn't be a tough challenge for Donaire even at his age. However, since WBC Bantamweight is now vacant, fighting at 118 lbs becomes a better option for Donaire.

Another thing, it's not that when Inoue vacates his title, Donaire will get away with the rights of becoming a mandatory fighter. It's just that after being beaten by Inoue, Donaire retains its position on the WBC rankings and becomes a 2nd mandatory fighter.

Anyways, it's now official that Donaire vs Moloney for the vacant WBC Bantamweight champion will take place.

Just waiting for the other details and information e.g date, venue, etc.

[Kemarit]

This is the reason why Donaire suddenly changed his course after knowing that Inoue will vacate all the belts once he climbs the next weight class, supposedly Donaire will go down at 115 pounds in super-flyweight division because he knows that he won't be holding any belts while Inoue is still in bantam weight but after knowing the fact, he is now maintaining the weight and I've heard that he's already scheduled to fight once WBO belt was vacated. Correct me if I'm wrong.

It's not that Donaire suddenly changed his course but it was an option right from the start. It's just that some conditions were met.

As you mentioned, WBC mandated a fight involving Donaire if Naoya Inoue decided to vacate all his belts in the bantamweight.

Moving forward, since Inoue now officially moved up weight, Donaire will now instead push on the better option which is competing again in the WBC Bantamweight title against Australian's Jason “Mayhem” Moloney.

I guess though the condition still base on Inoue, and now that he has official going to super bantamweight, it make sense for Donaire to stay at the bantamweight and fight against Moloney for the vacant belt.

And if by chance Inoue decided for at least fight another one in the bantamweight, it's either Donaire moving down to 115 lbs and could remain semi retired. But the good thing is that the first condition has been met so Donaire will have another crack to get his belt back.

Also, Donaire is more suited in the bantamweight division rather than looking for a title at 115 pounds as I'm inclined that his career might end sooner that what he expected. Having a fight against Moloney for the vacant title is already a good opportunity for Donaire to display his prowess again in this division that he was once a champion, it will be a perfect bout for him to test if he can still do few more fights or it's time for him to hang up his gloves.

I agree, although some of us would likely advise him to retire because of the brutal beating he got from the hands of Inoue, this boxers still seek something before they finally hang up their gloves.

And this could be a make or break for Nonito, if he lost this one, then it's better to quit because he doesn't have anything to proved. But if he can win again then he has to go and will have to defend that belt and yes, this could be his second reign at bantamweight.

[danherbias07]

Also, Donaire is more suited in the bantamweight division rather than looking for a title at 115 pounds as I'm inclined that his career might end sooner that what he expected. Having a fight against Moloney for the vacant title is already a good opportunity for Donaire to display his prowess again in this division that he was once a champion, it will be a perfect bout for him to test if he can still do few more fights or it's time for him to hang up his gloves.

Honestly, Donaire returning to 115 lbs is a good option for me knowing that he's already on a retirement period, and getting a title here shouldn't be a tough challenge for Donaire even at his age. However, since WBC Bantamweight is now vacant, fighting at 118 lbs becomes a better option for Donaire.

Another thing, it's not that when Inoue vacates his title, Donaire will get away with the rights of becoming a mandatory fighter. It's just that after being beaten by Inoue, Donaire retains its position on the WBC rankings and becomes a 2nd mandatory fighter.

Anyways, it's now official that Donaire vs Moloney for the vacant WBC Bantamweight champion will take place.

Just waiting for the other details and information e.g date, venue, etc.

That's money and a chance for the title again. A perfect combination for a retiring boxer. Win or not, he will have a good amount in his pocket and maybe calm down waiting for a challenger or just do what Inoue did vacating the belt. I bet it will be difficult to trim that weight now considering his age, metabolism will be at a different level.
He already proved himself a lot of times in different weight classes. Time to just calm things down after this upcoming fight.

“I want to be very, very, very, very clear. As it stands today, with Inoue vacating the titles, I am not relinquishing my position in the WBC to fight Jason Moloney,” Donaire confirmed during his ‘Beyond the Ring With Nonito and Rachel’ podcast hosted by the boxer and his wife/manager Rachel. “I know they said that they have tried to talk about them negotiating with me.

“There was no negotiation. There was nothing when Inoue still had the belt.”

https://www.boxingscene.com/donaire-sends-notice-team-moloney-on-title-bid-i-not-relinquishing-my-position-wbc--171884

As for Naoya Inoue's news. Here is the take of boxingscene.

Looking ahead at the field in front of him, here are five tantalizing foes for Inoue in his new weight class.

Johnriel Casimero (32-4, 22 KO, TBRB #9 at Jr. Featherweight)
Luis Nery (33-1, 25 KO, TBRB #7, Ring Magazine #6)
Ra’eese Aleem (20-0, 12 KO, TBRB #4, Ring Magazine #4)
Murodjon Akhmadaliev (11-0, 8 KO, IBF/WBA, TBRB/Ring Magazine #2)
Stephen Fulton (21-0, 8 KO, WBC/WBO, TBRB/Ring Magazine #1)
https://www.boxingscene.com/naoya-inoue-new-frontier-jr-featherweight--171885

[yazher]

Also, Donaire is more suited in the bantamweight division rather than looking for a title at 115 pounds as I'm inclined that his career might end sooner that what he expected. Having a fight against Moloney for the vacant title is already a good opportunity for Donaire to display his prowess again in this division that he was once a champion, it will be a perfect bout for him to test if he can still do few more fights or it's time for him to hang up his gloves.

It's such a waste to go on retirement soon when he still feeling it and he still can punch to knock out his opponent. since this boxing industry gathers huge money, it's really hard for those like Donaire to turn away from offers while he still can box and can give the fans excited when he fights in the ring. I think he will stop when he will gonna suffers the same loss again when he will gonna be knockout out cold or can no longer take some punches like how he used to be in his prime. right now, his speed is not the same anymore, and when he retires he will be soon fighting celebrity boxers if he still wants to make money from boxing.

[Hypnosis00]

Also, Donaire is more suited in the bantamweight division rather than looking for a title at 115 pounds as I'm inclined that his career might end sooner that what he expected. Having a fight against Moloney for the vacant title is already a good opportunity for Donaire to display his prowess again in this division that he was once a champion, it will be a perfect bout for him to test if he can still do few more fights or it's time for him to hang up his gloves.

It's such a waste to go on retirement soon when he still feeling it and he still can punch to knock out his opponent. since this boxing industry gathers huge money, it's really hard for those like Donaire to turn away from offers while he still can box and can give the fans excited when he fights in the ring. I think he will stop when he will gonna suffers the same loss again when he will gonna be knockout out cold or can no longer take some punches like how he used to be in his prime. right now, his speed is not the same anymore, and when he retires he will be soon fighting celebrity boxers if he still wants to make money from boxing.

Whether we like it or not, Donaire will be retiring soon, he is already 40 years old and that's already old in boxing now. He suffer many losses already, one was against Inoue which was his recent loss, but of course, he has a chance to be a champion again as Inoue has already moved up in weight. So it's nice if he will just retire as a champion in case he'll be a champ again.