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December 30, 2022, 05:20:10 AM
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^^ 4 fights per year might be too much for Casimero or any boxer, he is not getting any younger, so he needs to be selective on how he is going to fight next in his new division.

And probably he is not rated because his fight with Akaho is not sanctioned by any boxing organizations, so he is not recognized with that win. So although the fight was turn from NC to KO in his record, it doesn't have any bearing. That's why we said that he need to climb back the hard way again, just like what he did when he become a champion in 118 lbs. He went to title eliminator, Ricardo Franco for the interim belt, defend it against Cesar Ramirez in the Philippines then beat Zolani Tete for the regular belt. So I think he can do it again in super bantamweight.

Well, in order to get to the top he surely needs to struggle, this is just my opinion of what he can do, to fasten his descent into greatness again, but a mere boxer can not take 4 times pondering to the head per year, and yes I know that the health officials will surely prohibit Casimero in doing so, but it is likely that Casimero is now starting over again and without any backer and for this to come through he surely needs a big promoter to surely back him up to easily catch the boxer he is after but sad to say we will never going to see that,



December 30 - Right now Philippine time, Ghana is having its boxing event and it is called Takyi vs Kuwornu fighters are all from Ghana I think this is just exclusive to Ghana's people, and in Cazin, Bosnia, and Herzegovina there are events right now and it is called Cazin Fight Night where exclusive fighters were from Bosnia, and Herzegovina,

December 31 - There are also fights in the new years eve, and I think this one is noteworthy because there are 2 Filipino fighters, and this event was the Lifetime Boxing Fights 12: Ioka vs. Franco where the main event was Kazuto Ioka against Joshua Franco and the winner will get the WBA World Super Flyweight Title, but the two Filipino that I am talking about was Peter Apolinar against Hayato Tsutsumi and Robin Langres against Ryuto Owan,

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December 30, 2022, 06:28:45 AM
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^^ 4 fights per year might be too much for Casimero or any boxer, he is not getting any younger, so he needs to be selective on how he is going to fight next in his new division.

And probably he is not rated because his fight with Akaho is not sanctioned by any boxing organizations, so he is not recognized with that win. So although the fight was turn from NC to KO in his record, it doesn't have any bearing. That's why we said that he need to climb back the hard way again, just like what he did when he become a champion in 118 lbs. He went to title eliminator, Ricardo Franco for the interim belt, defend it against Cesar Ramirez in the Philippines then beat Zolani Tete for the regular belt. So I think he can do it again in super bantamweight.
4 fights?  Grin
That's exhausting and there's not much room for preparation. Maybe 3 fights per year could be done and he needs perfect wins to be eligible for a championship win.
It is also the reason why he badly needs that win against Akaho. Imagine how much frustration was done by that in his camp after the decision made by the judges about the "no contest". But now it's cleared, he won that fight, no doubt, perhaps WBO could prepare him for a good match with a higher-ranking boxer in their weight class. I think he does deserve it too and we want to see how good he is when faced with a stronger fighter.

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December 30, 2022, 08:12:52 AM
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^^ 4 fights per year might be too much for Casimero or any boxer, he is not getting any younger, so he needs to be selective on how he is going to fight next in his new division.

And probably he is not rated because his fight with Akaho is not sanctioned by any boxing organizations, so he is not recognized with that win. So although the fight was turn from NC to KO in his record, it doesn't have any bearing. That's why we said that he need to climb back the hard way again, just like what he did when he become a champion in 118 lbs. He went to title eliminator, Ricardo Franco for the interim belt, defend it against Cesar Ramirez in the Philippines then beat Zolani Tete for the regular belt. So I think he can do it again in super bantamweight.

Don't expect something big will happen to Casimero right away, he is just testing this new division, choosing Akaho as a sort of welcoming fight for him. And yes, he won't get the same treatment as Inoue because Naoya is one of the cash cow and pound for pound. And so like we say, he needs to climb back the ladder, go back to zero, fight contender first because he will be recognized by any of those ABC bodies and put him on their rankings. If Casimero is looking for a contender like Luis Nery, it will be a long shot for him since Nery is the #1 contender by the WBC. And for all we know that belt is being held by Fulton in which Inoue is targeting when he officially moves up to this division.

Fair enough, I agree that he needs to climb up and he has this actually in his DNA, we don't know what's with Casimero but he really loves to take the challenges.

Nery will be good in his resume, as you have said, he is currently a former champion and rank high not just by WBC, there are still other bodies that recognized Nery achievement. I'm just watching Casimero's highlight and I'm really impressed on his power and how his former says about him. He maybe arrogant, but he can back his trash talk.

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December 30, 2022, 07:31:41 PM
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It looks like Casimero needs to rank up in order for him to be noticed and become a mandatory challenger for the 122 lbs title and possibly have a match with Inoue. 

He sure do need to go through the ranks before he can face any champions at 122 pounds and become a mandatory challenger because he doesn't have any perks that Naoya Inoue have. Aside from that, Casimero also don't have the likes of Bob Arum who do have strong ties to the governing bodies that will give him some favors. We don't need to prove that statement because it's already clear that political ties are far more important in this era.

Sadly yes, as much as we know that Casimero is a good fighter and I will say that his style bring fans to the seat to watch him because he is so flamboyant and brandish, he will have to go the old style of ranking up because meeting any of the champions at 122 pounds and maybe it can include Naoya Inoue that time. But we all know that he is not stranger to this kind of test, so for sure he will welcome it and then crush the competitions like what he did at bantamweight division before becoming a champion, the hard way, the better for him, not like Inoue who is given like a jumpstart and will fight the champion in his first move in the 122 pounds.

I agree, he's like McGregor of MMA who speaks nonsense words and tries to fight the enemies inside their head prior to the fight but when the fight commence, Casimero works his end and prove to everybody that he's not all talk. I'm just glad now that the result against Ryo Akaho has been corrected by the KBM and that the fight was indeed ended with a KO in Casimero's favor. Now, that's already one step ahead, he needs to fight more and hopefully he can do 2-3 fights next year so that his name will soon pop up to be one of the title challenger.

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December 30, 2022, 07:36:52 PM
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^^ 4 fights per year might be too much for Casimero or any boxer, he is not getting any younger, so he needs to be selective on how he is going to fight next in his new division.

And probably he is not rated because his fight with Akaho is not sanctioned by any boxing organizations, so he is not recognized with that win. So although the fight was turn from NC to KO in his record, it doesn't have any bearing. That's why we said that he need to climb back the hard way again, just like what he did when he become a champion in 118 lbs. He went to title eliminator, Ricardo Franco for the interim belt, defend it against Cesar Ramirez in the Philippines then beat Zolani Tete for the regular belt. So I think he can do it again in super bantamweight.
4 fights?  Grin
That's exhausting and there's not much room for preparation. Maybe 3 fights per year could be done and he needs perfect wins to be eligible for a championship win.
It is also the reason why he badly needs that win against Akaho. Imagine how much frustration was done by that in his camp after the decision made by the judges about the "no contest". But now it's cleared, he won that fight, no doubt, perhaps WBO could prepare him for a good match with a higher-ranking boxer in their weight class. I think he does deserve it too and we want to see how good he is when faced with a stronger fighter.

That's quite funny, you know.

Now, I know that Casimero needed to win some few more fights so that his name will go up in the ladder much faster but having 4 fights in a year? That's quite absurd, I reckon because we only have 12 months per year, so that means that Casimero should fight every 3 months to have 4 bouts in a year. I don't think that any boxer can handle that much stress, the world of boxing is not a joke after that just needed a small time to prepare. And after every fight, a boxer needed a few weeks to rest, so that leaves them more or less 2 months to prepare for the next bout.
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December 30, 2022, 08:02:27 PM
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^^ 4 fights per year might be too much for Casimero or any boxer, he is not getting any younger, so he needs to be selective on how he is going to fight next in his new division.

And probably he is not rated because his fight with Akaho is not sanctioned by any boxing organizations, so he is not recognized with that win. So although the fight was turn from NC to KO in his record, it doesn't have any bearing. That's why we said that he need to climb back the hard way again, just like what he did when he become a champion in 118 lbs. He went to title eliminator, Ricardo Franco for the interim belt, defend it against Cesar Ramirez in the Philippines then beat Zolani Tete for the regular belt. So I think he can do it again in super bantamweight.
4 fights?  Grin
That's exhausting and there's not much room for preparation. Maybe 3 fights per year could be done and he needs perfect wins to be eligible for a championship win.
It is also the reason why he badly needs that win against Akaho. Imagine how much frustration was done by that in his camp after the decision made by the judges about the "no contest". But now it's cleared, he won that fight, no doubt, perhaps WBO could prepare him for a good match with a higher-ranking boxer in their weight class. I think he does deserve it too and we want to see how good he is when faced with a stronger fighter.

That's quite funny, you know.

Now, I know that Casimero needed to win some few more fights so that his name will go up in the ladder much faster but having 4 fights in a year? That's quite absurd, I reckon because we only have 12 months per year, so that means that Casimero should fight every 3 months to have 4 bouts in a year. I don't think that any boxer can handle that much stress, the world of boxing is not a joke after that just needed a small time to prepare. And after every fight, a boxer needed a few weeks to rest, so that leaves them more or less 2 months to prepare for the next bout.

2 fights will do for him, and it's based on the quality of his opponents to be name or at least break into the top 10 rankings i any of this division. He doesn't need to go to a lot of fights in a year, as you have said, no boxer can handle that stress, again, quality not quantity is the name of the name.

At least he made his debut successfully, although it was a delayed gratification because the result was overuled and turned into a knockout later. But if his next fight will be in the likes of Luis Neri and beat him, then he will surely break into the ranking in 122 pounds.
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December 30, 2022, 08:35:19 PM
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Fair enough, I agree that he needs to climb up and he has this actually in his DNA, we don't know what's with Casimero but he really loves to take the challenges.

Mentioning about the challenge, I remember the fight of Casimero where he was mobbed by the audience because he beat their champion.  It is sure thing that Casimero's boxing records is full of excitement, adding his trashtalking as a way to promote a fight, He is indeed and interesting boxer and hardly to miss because of his stunts and scandals (the SPA experience where he was stripped of his title) LOL

Nery will be good in his resume, as you have said, he is currently a former champion and rank high not just by WBC, there are still other bodies that recognized Nery achievement. I'm just watching Casimero's highlight and I'm really impressed on his power and how his former says about him. He maybe arrogant, but he can back his trash talk.
Whoever on the ranking is a good match for Casimero since he is currently unranked (ranked only on boxrec) and any fighter he beats that is on the top ranking position will give way for Casimero to be listed on the top ranking boxers and give Casimero chance to secure a mandatory challenge for the title belt.
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December 31, 2022, 02:12:34 AM
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Nery will be good in his resume, as you have said, he is currently a former champion and rank high not just by WBC, there are still other bodies that recognized Nery achievement. I'm just watching Casimero's highlight and I'm really impressed on his power and how his former says about him. He maybe arrogant, but he can back his trash talk.
Whoever on the ranking is a good match for Casimero since he is currently unranked (ranked only on boxrec) and any fighter he beats that is on the top ranking position will give way for Casimero to be listed on the top ranking boxers and give Casimero chance to secure a mandatory challenge for the title belt.

Talking about boxrec, it made me curious that Casimero has given a rank on the said platform and that made me verify about that claim, surprisingly, John Riel Casimero has been ranked 3rd in the super-bantamweight division next to the current champs, Stephen Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, respectively.

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?sex=M&division=Super%20Bantamweight&offset=0

Given the scenario, I'm somehow positive that he will become a mandatory challenger after 1-2 fights next year. And Naoya Inoue will likely take Casimero's rank if the Japanese super-champion will announce his climb at 122 pounds.

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December 31, 2022, 04:09:26 AM
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Nery will be good in his resume, as you have said, he is currently a former champion and rank high not just by WBC, there are still other bodies that recognized Nery achievement. I'm just watching Casimero's highlight and I'm really impressed on his power and how his former says about him. He maybe arrogant, but he can back his trash talk.
Whoever on the ranking is a good match for Casimero since he is currently unranked (ranked only on boxrec) and any fighter he beats that is on the top ranking position will give way for Casimero to be listed on the top ranking boxers and give Casimero chance to secure a mandatory challenge for the title belt.

Talking about boxrec, it made me curious that Casimero has given a rank on the said platform and that made me verify about that claim, surprisingly, John Riel Casimero has been ranked 3rd in the super-bantamweight division next to the current champs, Stephen Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, respectively.

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?sex=M&division=Super%20Bantamweight&offset=0

Given the scenario, I'm somehow positive that he will become a mandatory challenger after 1-2 fights next year. And Naoya Inoue will likely take Casimero's rank if the Japanese super-champion will announce his climb at 122 pounds.

Wow, quite nice for Casimero and if he continues winning his upcoming fights for sure, it's not just the ranking but the hype in his name from this current division. We never know what will be next in his career. What is important for now is he will get decent fights and perform to impress both fans and the organization.

After that fight against Akaho, a controversial fight that gives him a good exposure from this division, he might get a good money fight
after Akaho.

Just assuming and hoping that we will see him next year with a better career ahead..

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Nery will be good in his resume, as you have said, he is currently a former champion and rank high not just by WBC, there are still other bodies that recognized Nery achievement. I'm just watching Casimero's highlight and I'm really impressed on his power and how his former says about him. He maybe arrogant, but he can back his trash talk.
Whoever on the ranking is a good match for Casimero since he is currently unranked (ranked only on boxrec) and any fighter he beats that is on the top ranking position will give way for Casimero to be listed on the top ranking boxers and give Casimero chance to secure a mandatory challenge for the title belt.

Talking about boxrec, it made me curious that Casimero has given a rank on the said platform and that made me verify about that claim, surprisingly, John Riel Casimero has been ranked 3rd in the super-bantamweight division next to the current champs, Stephen Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, respectively.

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?sex=M&division=Super%20Bantamweight&offset=0

Given the scenario, I'm somehow positive that he will become a mandatory challenger after 1-2 fights next year. And Naoya Inoue will likely take Casimero's rank if the Japanese super-champion will announce his climb at 122 pounds.

Good, but I don't know if it is recognized though, the official rankings should come from the WBC,WBA,WBO and IBF. Boxrec may have their own rankings but not sure if it has weight to be honest.

Regardless of what they released, I do also believed that in 1-2 fights Casimero should be in the ranking or challenger for the belt.

Specially if that 2 fight will show his skills and winning against his opponent thru knock out.

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Nery will be good in his resume, as you have said, he is currently a former champion and rank high not just by WBC, there are still other bodies that recognized Nery achievement. I'm just watching Casimero's highlight and I'm really impressed on his power and how his former says about him. He maybe arrogant, but he can back his trash talk.
Whoever on the ranking is a good match for Casimero since he is currently unranked (ranked only on boxrec) and any fighter he beats that is on the top ranking position will give way for Casimero to be listed on the top ranking boxers and give Casimero chance to secure a mandatory challenge for the title belt.

Talking about boxrec, it made me curious that Casimero has given a rank on the said platform and that made me verify about that claim, surprisingly, John Riel Casimero has been ranked 3rd in the super-bantamweight division next to the current champs, Stephen Fulton and Murodjon Akhmadaliev, respectively.

https://boxrec.com/en/ratings?sex=M&division=Super%20Bantamweight&offset=0

Given the scenario, I'm somehow positive that he will become a mandatory challenger after 1-2 fights next year. And Naoya Inoue will likely take Casimero's rank if the Japanese super-champion will announce his climb at 122 pounds.

Good, but I don't know if it is recognized though, the official rankings should come from the WBC,WBA,WBO and IBF. Boxrec may have their own rankings but not sure if it has weight to be honest.

Regardless of what they released, I do also believed that in 1-2 fights Casimero should be in the ranking or challenger for the belt.

Specially if that 2 fight will show his skills and winning against his opponent thru knock out.

He can do that in two fights, but it has to be someone that is recognized, like the name of Nery or someone among the top 5 and if he wins then go for the top 3 name, (although Nery is too high already as he is a former champion).

Casimero is not short of highlights that's for sure, he is more powerful at 122 lbs and if he touches anyone at this weight class even the champion and high rank boxers, they are going to be for a rude awakening.

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December 31, 2022, 10:51:38 AM
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^^ 4 fights per year might be too much for Casimero or any boxer, he is not getting any younger, so he needs to be selective on how he is going to fight next in his new division.

And probably he is not rated because his fight with Akaho is not sanctioned by any boxing organizations, so he is not recognized with that win. So although the fight was turn from NC to KO in his record, it doesn't have any bearing. That's why we said that he need to climb back the hard way again, just like what he did when he become a champion in 118 lbs. He went to title eliminator, Ricardo Franco for the interim belt, defend it against Cesar Ramirez in the Philippines then beat Zolani Tete for the regular belt. So I think he can do it again in super bantamweight.
4 fights?  Grin
That's exhausting and there's not much room for preparation. Maybe 3 fights per year could be done and he needs perfect wins to be eligible for a championship win.
It is also the reason why he badly needs that win against Akaho. Imagine how much frustration was done by that in his camp after the decision made by the judges about the "no contest". But now it's cleared, he won that fight, no doubt, perhaps WBO could prepare him for a good match with a higher-ranking boxer in their weight class. I think he does deserve it too and we want to see how good he is when faced with a stronger fighter.

That's quite funny, you know.

Now, I know that Casimero needed to win some few more fights so that his name will go up in the ladder much faster but having 4 fights in a year? That's quite absurd, I reckon because we only have 12 months per year, so that means that Casimero should fight every 3 months to have 4 bouts in a year. I don't think that any boxer can handle that much stress, the world of boxing is not a joke after that just needed a small time to prepare. And after every fight, a boxer needed a few weeks to rest, so that leaves them more or less 2 months to prepare for the next bout.
Yes, and there's conditioning too. After rigorous training, they don't just battle the next day. They are giving them rest with a non-exhausting training plan, just to preserve their rhythm.
I agree, no boxer can make this happen, it will be too much for their body.
Then, there's no manager that would risk his boxer to do that kind of thing, a waste of money, because the chances of losing the fight will be higher.

Casimero made a mistake before but I am sure he wants his title back. Having more fights in a year will not be the solution. He needs a match with higher boxer seeds to gain the rankings.

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December 31, 2022, 01:52:14 PM
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Casimero made a mistake before but I am sure he wants his title back. Having more fights in a year will not be the solution. He needs a match with higher boxer seeds to gain the rankings.

Title of becoming a champion again, yes of course. However, it will not be an easy journey for him as he hasn't challenged the champion of this new weight class he is in. His first win was a great statement that he still has the power, and with that, I believe he will be a very dangerous challenger, I hope Inoue will also move up.
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December 31, 2022, 01:58:06 PM
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Right now the event Lifetime Boxing Fights 12: Ioka vs. Franco has been settled and here is the result of the fight

Kazuto Ioka DRAW Joshua Franco

Hayato Tsutsumi DEF Peter Apolinar

Kai Watanabe DEF Ryo Nakai

Ryuto Owan DEF Robin Langres

Satsuki Ito DEF Wassana Kamdee

Taiga Ito DEF Kentaro Miyamoto

Kazuki Ogiwara DEF Ayato Mochizuki

Kantaro Nakanishi DEF Akira Nakashima

Pretty much the main event turns into a draw and right now I really don't know what happens because I don't want to waste money watching it and surely just going to wait for the replay on youtube, for this fight, well most Japanese were the winners and sad to say the two Filipino lost the fight Peter Apolinar lost to Hayato Tsutsumi with a unanimous decision, while Robin Langres defeated by Ryuto Owan with a unanimous decision aswell,
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December 31, 2022, 03:17:36 PM
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Right now the event Lifetime Boxing Fights 12: Ioka vs. Franco has been settled and here is the result of the fight

Kazuto Ioka DRAW Joshua Franco


Pretty much the main event turns into a draw and right now I really don't know what happens because I don't want to waste money watching it and surely just going to wait for the replay on youtube, for this fight, well most Japanese were the winners and sad to say the two Filipino lost the fight Peter Apolinar lost to Hayato Tsutsumi with a unanimous decision, while Robin Langres defeated by Ryuto Owan with a unanimous decision aswell,

Joshua Franco vs. Kazuto Ioka resulted as majority draw with a scorecard of 115-113, 114-114, 114-114.  Many viewers thought that the fight should be won by Franco by a small margin since the fight is too close.  Obviously Japan is known to have a home decision advantage and is often biased on the result when it comes to the scorecard.  So it is not a surprise that Franco did not win, but kinda surprising that it resulted in a draw  Grin.

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January 01, 2023, 02:33:58 AM
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Right now the event Lifetime Boxing Fights 12: Ioka vs. Franco has been settled and here is the result of the fight

Kazuto Ioka DRAW Joshua Franco


Pretty much the main event turns into a draw and right now I really don't know what happens because I don't want to waste money watching it and surely just going to wait for the replay on youtube, for this fight, well most Japanese were the winners and sad to say the two Filipino lost the fight Peter Apolinar lost to Hayato Tsutsumi with a unanimous decision, while Robin Langres defeated by Ryuto Owan with a unanimous decision aswell,

Joshua Franco vs. Kazuto Ioka resulted as majority draw with a scorecard of 115-113, 114-114, 114-114.  Many viewers thought that the fight should be won by Franco by a small margin since the fight is too close.  Obviously Japan is known to have a home decision advantage and is often biased on the result when it comes to the scorecard.  So it is not a surprise that Franco did not win, but kinda surprising that it resulted in a draw  Grin.

And now I have watched the replay and judging from the fight it was a slow pace fight that pretty much sure the judges are confused and it was a close fight in their eyes but for me, Joshua Franco is keeping the advantage by always being on the center of the ring while Kazuto Ioka was circling around him, so for sure Joshua Franco has the upper hand but the judges have declared it as a draw seems very controversial at all, in that sense I smell something about the Japanese promoter of this event the last time that this happens was with the John Riel Casimero VS Ryo Akaho fight it was a No contest it seems that the judges and the referee are controlling on who's going to win,

But right now as I am looking back at the Tapology record for the John Riel Casimero VS Ryo Akaho fight it seems that decision for that fight has changed and instead of a No Contest it was a win for John Riel Casimero KO/TKO punch to the back of the head a 1st fight won by a boxer because of a rabbit punch,


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January 01, 2023, 03:08:27 AM
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Right now the event Lifetime Boxing Fights 12: Ioka vs. Franco has been settled and here is the result of the fight

Kazuto Ioka DRAW Joshua Franco


Pretty much the main event turns into a draw and right now I really don't know what happens because I don't want to waste money watching it and surely just going to wait for the replay on youtube, for this fight, well most Japanese were the winners and sad to say the two Filipino lost the fight Peter Apolinar lost to Hayato Tsutsumi with a unanimous decision, while Robin Langres defeated by Ryuto Owan with a unanimous decision aswell,

Joshua Franco vs. Kazuto Ioka resulted as majority draw with a scorecard of 115-113, 114-114, 114-114.  Many viewers thought that the fight should be won by Franco by a small margin since the fight is too close.  Obviously Japan is known to have a home decision advantage and is often biased on the result when it comes to the scorecard.  So it is not a surprise that Franco did not win, but kinda surprising that it resulted in a draw  Grin.

Oh I have to see the fight, I never thought that it will end like this, I wouldn't say that Japan is known to be biased, but that's how others have did, like Manny losing to Jeff Horn in Australian soil.

Perhaps Ioka is already down that the best thing the judges could do is to award a draw instead of pushing him as a winner as it might be another uproar similar to what we've seen on Casimero against another Japanese fighter.

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January 01, 2023, 11:06:48 AM
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Right now the event Lifetime Boxing Fights 12: Ioka vs. Franco has been settled and here is the result of the fight

Kazuto Ioka DRAW Joshua Franco


Pretty much the main event turns into a draw and right now I really don't know what happens because I don't want to waste money watching it and surely just going to wait for the replay on youtube, for this fight, well most Japanese were the winners and sad to say the two Filipino lost the fight Peter Apolinar lost to Hayato Tsutsumi with a unanimous decision, while Robin Langres defeated by Ryuto Owan with a unanimous decision aswell,

Joshua Franco vs. Kazuto Ioka resulted as majority draw with a scorecard of 115-113, 114-114, 114-114.  Many viewers thought that the fight should be won by Franco by a small margin since the fight is too close.  Obviously Japan is known to have a home decision advantage and is often biased on the result when it comes to the scorecard.  So it is not a surprise that Franco did not win, but kinda surprising that it resulted in a draw  Grin.

I do agree that it should be Franco, because of his incredible work rate in this fight and probably Ioka was surprised with the volume that Franco throws in this fight up to round 12. Most likely the best thing this corrupt judges can do is to make the fight a draw so that it will not looks like something is being home cook for Ioka. I do hope that the organizations will look at the score of the two judges and put sanctions on them, maybe not to score any fight because their scoring is absurd in this case. Sad to hear that Filipinos lost as well, I'm only familiar with the name of Peter Apolinar though, but he lost by a UD, which means he didn't really do good in this fight or it's that his Japanese foe is too good for him.

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January 01, 2023, 11:27:10 AM
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Right now the event Lifetime Boxing Fights 12: Ioka vs. Franco has been settled and here is the result of the fight

Kazuto Ioka DRAW Joshua Franco


Pretty much the main event turns into a draw and right now I really don't know what happens because I don't want to waste money watching it and surely just going to wait for the replay on youtube, for this fight, well most Japanese were the winners and sad to say the two Filipino lost the fight Peter Apolinar lost to Hayato Tsutsumi with a unanimous decision, while Robin Langres defeated by Ryuto Owan with a unanimous decision aswell,

Joshua Franco vs. Kazuto Ioka resulted as majority draw with a scorecard of 115-113, 114-114, 114-114.  Many viewers thought that the fight should be won by Franco by a small margin since the fight is too close.  Obviously Japan is known to have a home decision advantage and is often biased on the result when it comes to the scorecard.  So it is not a surprise that Franco did not win, but kinda surprising that it resulted in a draw  Grin.

I do agree that it should be Franco, because of his incredible work rate in this fight and probably Ioka was surprised with the volume that Franco throws in this fight up to round 12. Most likely the best thing this corrupt judges can do is to make the fight a draw so that it will not looks like something is being home cook for Ioka. I do hope that the organizations will look at the score of the two judges and put sanctions on them, maybe not to score any fight because their scoring is absurd in this case. Sad to hear that Filipinos lost as well, I'm only familiar with the name of Peter Apolinar though, but he lost by a UD, which means he didn't really do good in this fight or it's that his Japanese foe is too good for him.

Japan has been known for their unfair judgement when it comes to boxing scorecard.  It was so unfair that the term "Japanese judging is fair" is written as a myth in this article[1].  Grin

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In the 1990's Japan had a spate of awful judging decisions favouring their fighters, this was particularly notable in Nagoya and Osaka. There used to be a joke that when a champion was defending his title in Nagoya he started 3 rounds up at the first bell. Suggesting that they only needed to win 4 of 12 rounds to win a fight.

So it isn't really surprising that the Japanese boxer seldom lost in their country.  During the 1990's the only way to win in Japan was to knock out their boxer and if you failed to stop your opponent it is a sure lost to the visiting boxer.



[1] https://www.asianboxing.info/thinking-out-east/5-misconceptions-of-japanese-boxing

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January 01, 2023, 12:04:37 PM
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So it isn't really surprising that the Japanese boxer seldom lost in their country.  During the 1990's the only way to win in Japan was to knock out their boxer and if you failed to stop your opponent it is a sure lost to the visiting boxer.


The same thing happened in Australia when Pacman was robbed. Let's hope that things will change for the fairness of sports, that way they will be able to have the opportunity to host a championship fight because they have good credibility, big fights are not fought in countries where there's a questionable reputation about judging a fight, so it's not good for business.



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