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April 05, 2023, 10:18:28 PM
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And keep NATO unified and NATO membership attractive to other countries, especially those that share a border with Russia.

No other person is more responsible for NATO expansion than Vlad.

Isn't it crazy to think that since invading Ukraine, Russias border with NATO countries has doubled?
From 1213 km to 2553 km. All thanks to Putin, without him it wouldn't had happened. I'm wondering, why Russians still aren't screaming about denazification of Finland and taking Helsinki in 3 days.

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April 06, 2023, 07:06:49 AM
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A big chunk of the military budget obviously went somewhere besides the military....

Obviously. If they intend to compete with USA, they need at least 2 wars in every decade,
to keep army in good shape and root out corruption

And keep NATO unified and NATO membership attractive to other countries, especially those that share a border with Russia.

No other person is more responsible for NATO expansion than Vlad.

Isn't it crazy to think that since invading Ukraine, Russias border with NATO countries has doubled?

Yes, because before war, Finland and Sweden was Russia-friendly and Russia allies
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April 06, 2023, 09:15:26 AM
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And keep NATO unified and NATO membership attractive to other countries, especially those that share a border with Russia.

No other person is more responsible for NATO expansion than Vlad.

Isn't it crazy to think that since invading Ukraine, Russias border with NATO countries has doubled?
From 1213 km to 2553 km. All thanks to Putin, without him it wouldn't had happened. I'm wondering, why Russians still aren't screaming about denazification of Finland and taking Helsinki in 3 days.
When NATO missiles appear on the territory of Finland, then they will start talking. For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.

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April 06, 2023, 09:53:29 AM
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A big chunk of the military budget obviously went somewhere besides the military....

Obviously. If they intend to compete with USA, they need at least 2 wars in every decade,
to keep army in good shape and root out corruption

If Russia could break through the lying media, and show the people of the world that they are in favor of peace, the world would overthrow their governments to get Russian peace.

Cool

Wouldn't it be quite easy for Russia to break through the lying media by stopping their media to lie? As much as this sounds like a circular conclusion, it makes a lot of sense since there was a whistle blower who leaked the Vulkan files. Those are 5,000 pages of documents showing the sophisticated instructions and requirements as to how and what cyber attacks should be done and how Vulkan is supposed to spread disinformation.

As bad as it is what the USA has done at times, shown by the Snowden leaks, nobody really refuted that the material leaked by Snowden was true. I expect that it will be said that the Vulkan files are fake.

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April 06, 2023, 03:12:07 PM
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And keep NATO unified and NATO membership attractive to other countries, especially those that share a border with Russia.

No other person is more responsible for NATO expansion than Vlad.

Isn't it crazy to think that since invading Ukraine, Russias border with NATO countries has doubled?
From 1213 km to 2553 km. All thanks to Putin, without him it wouldn't had happened. I'm wondering, why Russians still aren't screaming about denazification of Finland and taking Helsinki in 3 days.
When NATO missiles appear on the territory of Finland, then they will start talking. For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.

Ok well NATO missiles appeared on the territory of Finland the moment they officially joined.


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April 06, 2023, 07:21:18 PM
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And keep NATO unified and NATO membership attractive to other countries, especially those that share a border with Russia.

No other person is more responsible for NATO expansion than Vlad.

Isn't it crazy to think that since invading Ukraine, Russias border with NATO countries has doubled?
From 1213 km to 2553 km. All thanks to Putin, without him it wouldn't had happened. I'm wondering, why Russians still aren't screaming about denazification of Finland and taking Helsinki in 3 days.
When NATO missiles appear on the territory of Finland, then they will start talking. For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.

Ok well NATO missiles appeared on the territory of Finland the moment they officially joined.


I think you are wishful thinking.
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Nuclear weapons will not enter Finnish territory even after membership is implemented.

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April 06, 2023, 07:47:58 PM
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For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.
Don'y worry, with new government Finland's views towards Russia and support to Ukraine won't change.

I think you are wishful thinking.
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Nuclear weapons will not enter Finnish territory even after membership is implemented.
Where did he mentioned nuclear weapons?

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April 06, 2023, 07:56:51 PM
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And keep NATO unified and NATO membership attractive to other countries, especially those that share a border with Russia.

No other person is more responsible for NATO expansion than Vlad.

Isn't it crazy to think that since invading Ukraine, Russias border with NATO countries has doubled?
From 1213 km to 2553 km. All thanks to Putin, without him it wouldn't had happened. I'm wondering, why Russians still aren't screaming about denazification of Finland and taking Helsinki in 3 days.
When NATO missiles appear on the territory of Finland, then they will start talking. For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.

Ok well NATO missiles appeared on the territory of Finland the moment they officially joined.


I think you are wishful thinking.
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Nuclear weapons will not enter Finnish territory even after membership is implemented.
Not all missiles are nuclear.

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April 06, 2023, 08:05:18 PM
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For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.
Don'y worry, with new government Finland's views towards Russia and support to Ukraine won't change.

I think you are wishful thinking.
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Nuclear weapons will not enter Finnish territory even after membership is implemented.
Where did he mentioned nuclear weapons?
Well, I gave a link, it seems in the second paragraph the passage about nuclear weapons.

Not all missiles are nuclear.
What do you want me to say? That Finns are generally more adequate than Ukrainians? Or that a big war in Europe is inevitable and it's only a matter of time, and Finland's entry into NATO is another step in Europe into the abyss? You don't think that everything will end in Ukraine, do you?

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April 06, 2023, 09:14:34 PM
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A big chunk of the military budget obviously went somewhere besides the military....

Obviously. If they intend to compete with USA, they need at least 2 wars in every decade,
to keep army in good shape and root out corruption

And keep NATO unified and NATO membership attractive to other countries, especially those that share a border with Russia.

No other person is more responsible for NATO expansion than Vlad.

Isn't it crazy to think that since invading Ukraine, Russias border with NATO countries has doubled?

Yes, because before war, Finland and Sweden was Russia-friendly and Russia allies

No, it is because they were not subject to article 5 and now they are. Congratulations to the RF government, diplomats and "glorious" army for this great achievement that makes the world more dangerous and closer to a serious incident. But yeah...blame it on Nazism, Rusophobia and on the solar winds if you want, it does not matter - the deed is done.

It was already difficult for Finland, which lost 10% of their territory to Russia remain neutral, all they needed was a Putin.

Oh, BTW, there are rumours of fighting in Chechenia... probably Nazis and Russophobes there too right?

For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.
Don'y worry, with new government Finland's views towards Russia and support to Ukraine won't change.
...

They will change. They will be even less favourable to Putin.

Oh, man, I just learned that someone left a kettle for too long in the Ministry of Defence and there was a little (well, not that little fire) there in Moscow. Probably the same guy who smoke in Moskva's magazine.

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April 06, 2023, 10:34:44 PM
Last edit: September 10, 2023, 09:56:35 PM by LTU_btc
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Well, I gave a link, it seems in the second paragraph the passage about nuclear weapons.
@TwitchySeal was talking just about missiles without mentioning nuclear weapons, you moved topic to nuclear wepons. For now it will be enough ordinary weapons, in future - maybe. I just remind that a bit over year ago Finland weren't even thinking about joining NATO and what we have now?

Oh, man, I just learned that someone left a kettle for too long in the Ministry of Defence and there was a little (well, not that little fire) there in Moscow. Probably the same guy who smoke in Moskva's magazine.
And someone managed to get photo of that kettle:

Ok, it's associative image, source : https://t.me/truexanewsua/71337

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April 06, 2023, 11:18:28 PM
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When NATO missiles appear on the territory of Finland, then they will start talking. For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.
You clearly have no idea what's going on. So what's your point and are you talking about? How would our elections would have anything to do with this? You really think that our government lead by "kokoomus" would have any different relations with russia then SDP and Sanna Marin? Fuck no. If anything "KOK" is going to be more nationalistic. So you have no idea what you are talking about.

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April 06, 2023, 11:45:24 PM
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Not all missiles are nuclear.
What do you want me to say? That Finns are generally more adequate than Ukrainians? Or that a big war in Europe is inevitable and it's only a matter of time, and Finland's entry into NATO is another step in Europe into the abyss? You don't think that everything will end in Ukraine, do you?

I guess they didn't have enough farm tractors to till the ground in Ukraine. So, they are getting Russian missiles to do it for them so they can plant this spring.

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For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.
Don'y worry, with new government Finland's views towards Russia and support to Ukraine won't change.

I think you are wishful thinking.
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Nuclear weapons will not enter Finnish territory even after membership is implemented.
Where did he mentioned nuclear weapons?
Well, I gave a link, it seems in the second paragraph the passage about nuclear weapons.

Not all missiles are nuclear.
What do you want me to say? That Finns are generally more adequate than Ukrainians? Or that a big war in Europe is inevitable and it's only a matter of time, and Finland's entry into NATO is another step in Europe into the abyss? You don't think that everything will end in Ukraine, do you?

It depends on the Russians' willingness to fight in foreign lands.

If I had to guess, Putin will continue this until he dies, is killed or his army is completely decimated.

Even if Putinians lose, they will not stop. They are like mad animals, they have to be stopped.

So I am guessing this thing will end in Kremlin, with Moscovian Empire disintegrating.


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April 07, 2023, 04:42:25 AM
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Good analysis of Russias progress in the donbas since invading.












https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/04/06/world/europe/russia-offensive-maps.html



I wonder why they're invading Ukraine so slowly?

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April 07, 2023, 08:43:18 AM
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When NATO missiles appear on the territory of Finland, then they will start talking. For now, it's enough that the Finnish government lost the election and resigned.
You clearly have no idea what's going on. So what's your point and are you talking about? How would our elections would have anything to do with this? You really think that our government lead by "kokoomus" would have any different relations with russia then SDP and Sanna Marin? Fuck no. If anything "KOK" is going to be more nationalistic. So you have no idea what you are talking about.
Oh, so you're from Finland? Of course, I don’t particularly delve into the ups and downs of the internal political struggle in your country, I’m simply not interested. From the outside, this whole story with joining NATO looks like Finland was thrown hard through the dick. Moreover, Sweden prudently moved off the topic, with the help of some ridiculous actions to burn the Koran. And Finland suddenly found itself at the forefront of the universal struggle for democracy and other pederastic values against the huge and terrible Russia, which immediately redeployed Topol-M mobile complexes to Vyborg. Well, good luck. Grin

I wonder why they're invading Ukraine so slowly?
I have repeatedly said that time in this story works for Russia, it is strange that you yourself have not understood this yet.

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If someone likes seeing Russian forces having their asses kicked in the field here's a long but satisfying video showing a large group of Russian soldiers trying to attack a trench held by a handful of Ukrainians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu4W4FJ3xCA

There's news that Putin is sending Nukes to Belarus while his mouthpieces say that the West is trying to escalate the war.
I haven't seen any NATO nukes being moved to positions, so Putin makes the first move but it's all our fault.

Apparently Putin is afraid of covid. One of his personal guards fled Russia and gave an interview. If you want to meet with Putin you need to be in quarantine for 2 weeks and he refuses to take any vaccine out of fear of being poisoned  Roll Eyes

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April 07, 2023, 02:41:13 PM
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Because Putin still didn't purge all oligarchs that were plundering it and transferring money to the West

You mean the great geo-strategist genius who doubled the length of Russia's border with NATO hasn't been able to fix Russia in 23 years? Shocking.

Number of billionaires in Russia when Putin started his promising career of a genocidal dictator: 0
Number of billionaires in Russia today: 100+ (due to sanctions might be down to ~80 by some estimates)


First of all I couldn't find a better name for the "disease" killing oligarchs like flies. It is the so called:



The number is shrinking rapidly. I am too lazy to list the countless sources here stating ridiculous stories of how all those people coincidentally fall out of windows, have a stroke, fall off the third floor in a hotel, kill their entire families and then themselves, etc.

But all of these cases have one thing in common besides being statistically unrealistic (if not impossible), as we are talking about a tiny, tiny, tiny subset of society experiencing excess mortality such that the odds to win the lottery is countless times higher. They have in common that they criticized Putin. Putin denies that he has anything to do with it, of course he does. That's the point of his strategy.

To the Putin fans here, what would you say if 38 of the most important people (sometimes including their families) die in the USA after they criticized Joe Biden? When the Crimea was annexed, 38 died between 2014 and 2017.

Now, at least from what is publicly known, another 32 have died, some are in prison and are probably going to die as well like Igor Shkuroko just 3 days ago.

There is only one cure to the "Sudden Russian Death Syndrome": don't criticize the psychopath Putin and do whatever he wants even without him asking you. If you don't you get a mysterious disease or you "commit suicide" because you started hating your boring oligarch life.

The coincidences are so ridiculous and Putin is killing all over the planet. It is disgusting to read that he is even willing wives and daughters and sons at child age.

To the Putin trolls: where is the line for you guys that you would say "ok, can't be coincidence, and it is ugly what the psychopath is doing"? Would you even do that in case you realize it must be true? (no worries, you wouldn't realize)

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April 07, 2023, 04:45:42 PM
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Oh, so you're from Finland? Of course, I don’t particularly delve into the ups and downs of the internal political struggle in your country, I’m simply not interested. From the outside, this whole story with joining NATO looks like Finland was thrown hard through the dick. Moreover, Sweden prudently moved off the topic, with the help of some ridiculous actions to burn the Koran. And Finland suddenly found itself at the forefront of the universal struggle for democracy and other pederastic values against the huge and terrible Russia, which immediately redeployed Topol-M mobile complexes to Vyborg. Well, good luck. Grin
What you don't get is that pravda propaganda is aimed against Russia, not us. And moving some rockets around is not any kind of significant tactical move especially against nato. They just want to be seen as doing something so they move some rockets and trucks. That's supposed to be signaling Russians as a show of some sort of strength. It's empty muscle flexing for anyone who understands Russian point of view. Meanwhile whole west is facepalming to this nonsense. They can't do anything about Finland joining NATO, they just wish they could.

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April 07, 2023, 06:49:00 PM
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If someone likes seeing Russian forces having their asses kicked in the field here's a long but satisfying video showing a large group of Russian soldiers trying to attack a trench held by a handful of Ukrainians.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zu4W4FJ3xCA

There's news that Putin is sending Nukes to Belarus while his mouthpieces say that the West is trying to escalate the war.
I haven't seen any NATO nukes being moved to positions, so Putin makes the first move but it's all our fault.

Apparently Putin is afraid of covid. One of his personal guards fled Russia and gave an interview. If you want to meet with Putin you need to be in quarantine for 2 weeks and he refuses to take any vaccine out of fear of being poisoned  Roll Eyes

That is quite ironic if we keep in mind the number of times that opposition leaders in Russian happened to be poisoned out of no where.
Still, keeping that to one side, I have also read that Putin keep his personal distance from anyone and during official visits he has his own private portable bathroom out of fear of someone getting samples of his excrement for God knows what purpose.

Very paranoid, the kind of thing we should have expected from a former soviet spy with many enemies around the globe.

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