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November 23, 2022, 05:04:13 AM
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After surprising lose of Argentina to Saudi Arabia I wouldn't bet anymore on Argentina to win tournament honestly. In match Argentina players looked very nervous. This will definitely affect their performance in future. They are actually lucky because Poland and Mexico got draw. I think Argentina will be able to beat Mexico. But Poland match will be tough for them. They may go home even after group stage. Gonna be very risky to bet for Argentina from now on.

They didn't looked nervous. They rather looked overconfident. Argentina probably thought that Saudi Arabia were one of the weakest teams participating in this tournament, and therefore they will be able to beat them by a big margin. And that is also one of the reasons why they fell in to the off-side trap that was set by Saudi Arabia. They were on the attack from the very beginning onwards, and that enabled the Saudis to breach through their defense and put Argentina in the backfoot. By the time Argentines realized their mistake, it was too late.

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November 23, 2022, 06:43:23 AM
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Even before the start of the tournament, I had pointed out that Saudi Arabia may benefit from the fact that the conditions in Qatar are familiar to them. Qatar is a neighboring country of Saudi Arabia and not just the weather, but the language and culture is also the same. But the reason Argentina lost yesterday has nothing to do with climate or language. Despite all their experience, they failed to save themselves from the off-side trap that was cleverly set by the Saudis. All they had to do was to play with a cool head and they failed there.
Yes, Saudi Arabia are benefiting from the climate conditions but the experiences and maturity in the Argentina side should have been able to negate that advantage. The high line of Saudi Arabia defense was risky although it saved them as those goals were ruled offside and it also gave them the platform to create problems. Argentina's biggest fear happened because they weren't able to dominate the ball in midfield  and have their circuit of passes, because of the high press of the Saudi Arabian team.
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Even before the start of the tournament, I had pointed out that Saudi Arabia may benefit from the fact that the conditions in Qatar are familiar to them. Qatar is a neighboring country of Saudi Arabia and not just the weather, but the language and culture is also the same. But the reason Argentina lost yesterday has nothing to do with climate or language. Despite all their experience, they failed to save themselves from the off-side trap that was cleverly set by the Saudis. All they had to do was to play with a cool head and they failed there.
Yes, Saudi Arabia are benefiting from the climate conditions but the experiences and maturity in the Argentina side should have been able to negate that advantage. The high line of Saudi Arabia defense was risky although it saved them as those goals were ruled offside and it also gave them the platform to create problems. Argentina's biggest fear happened because they weren't able to dominate the ball in midfield  and have their circuit of passes, because of the high press of the Saudi Arabian team.
The reason for the loss of Argentina is their overconfidence and underestimation of Saudi  Arabia team . They thought that would be an easy game for them as they managed to score their first goal in 1st half and after second half when Saudi scored two goals that was an alarming situation for them and than they become nervous and as a result they lost .

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November 23, 2022, 06:52:39 AM
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Yes, Saudi Arabia are benefiting from the climate conditions but the experiences and maturity in the Argentina side should have been able to negate that advantage. The high line of Saudi Arabia defense was risky although it saved them as those goals were ruled offside and it also gave them the platform to create problems. Argentina's biggest fear happened because they weren't able to dominate the ball in midfield  and have their circuit of passes, because of the high press of the Saudi Arabian team.
I think even in a favorable weather, it is possible for Saudi Arabia to win, it is normal for a weak team to win, this is not the first of its kind, there have been many matches played in the past that the weak team won, so this is not new, Argentina just had better chance and stronger players, but that does not give the country 100% assurance to win. It would have been a good match for Argentina if their plan was fulfilled, to dominate and play an attacking match, they scored very fast in the first half, but later their plans became offsides and many opportunities to win become unrealistic. What I think that happened is that Argentina underestimate Saudi players.

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November 23, 2022, 06:52:57 AM
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Even before the start of the tournament, I had pointed out that Saudi Arabia may benefit from the fact that the conditions in Qatar are familiar to them. Qatar is a neighboring country of Saudi Arabia and not just the weather, but the language and culture is also the same. But the reason Argentina lost yesterday has nothing to do with climate or language. Despite all their experience, they failed to save themselves from the off-side trap that was cleverly set by the Saudis. All they had to do was to play with a cool head and they failed there.
Yes, Saudi Arabia are benefiting from the climate conditions but the experiences and maturity in the Argentina side should have been able to negate that advantage. The high line of Saudi Arabia defense was risky although it saved them as those goals were ruled offside and it also gave them the platform to create problems. Argentina's biggest fear happened because they weren't able to dominate the ball in midfield  and have their circuit of passes, because of the high press of the Saudi Arabian team.
The reason for the loss of Argentina is their overconfidence and underestimation of Saudi  Arabia team . They thought that would be an easy game for them as they managed to score their first goal in 1st half and after second half when Saudi scored two goals that was an alarming situation for them and than they become nervous and as a result they lost .
You are absolutely right, I agree with you. Argentina's first half performance looked like they could beat Saudi Arabia with ease. They also thought scoring goals against Saudi Arabia didn't matter. But the reality speaks differently and they have to accept the fact that they have been defeated by Saudi Arabia against them. I hope they learn some great lessons from the image and play the next matches properly.

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November 23, 2022, 09:09:34 AM
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I still want to know who won in this bet because surely most of the losers in this match bet Cheesy
I just won, but I bet in a live when the odds are 4x. I am very regretful after that because I am late to put them when the odds are still on 13x. So I guess many bettors won out there because Saudi Arabia is a good performance in the last 5 matches, many bettors are calculated they will make surprised because they know Argentina is just a team who filled up the veteran player.

That look funny the big team can't handle winning versus a team which not have an achievement like Saudi Arabia. Messi will be shamed and maybe still regret in his room hotels.

Maybe in this case you bet when they draw there but indeed that is also very good in my opinion.
But it would be even better when you wake up early and bet when the odds are x100 at that time Cheesy
I also regret that because I didn't place any bets because when I wanted to bet on Argentina the odds were not attractive and at first I was quite hesitant when I wanted to bet on Saudi Arabia but it seems that I am still very weak and think too much about objectivity because Saudi Arabia is not seeded so I don't dare to try something challenging.

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November 23, 2022, 09:19:23 AM
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The reason for the loss of Argentina is their overconfidence and underestimation of Saudi  Arabia team . They thought that would be an easy game for them as they managed to score their first goal in 1st half and after second half when Saudi scored two goals that was an alarming situation for them and than they become nervous and as a result they lost .
This is indeed a fundamental problem especially with their condition which is the favorite in this match which in the end they got a crushing blow from Saudi Arabia in this match.
Now the Saudi Arabian supporters are partying after this match and they even apply today as a national holiday in their country.
On the other hand, this is also a confidence boost for Saudi Arabia now and they have to make sure that 1 more win is enough for them or maybe 2 draws can also do something good for them.

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November 23, 2022, 09:24:30 AM
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After surprising lose of Argentina to Saudi Arabia I wouldn't bet anymore on Argentina to win tournament honestly. In match Argentina players looked very nervous. This will definitely affect their performance in future. They are actually lucky because Poland and Mexico got draw. I think Argentina will be able to beat Mexico. But Poland match will be tough for them. They may go home even after group stage. Gonna be very risky to bet for Argentina from now on.

They didn't looked nervous. They rather looked overconfident. Argentina probably thought that Saudi Arabia were one of the weakest teams participating in this tournament, and therefore they will be able to beat them by a big margin. And that is also one of the reasons why they fell in to the off-side trap that was set by Saudi Arabia. They were on the attack from the very beginning onwards, and that enabled the Saudis to breach through their defense and put Argentina in the backfoot. By the time Argentines realized their mistake, it was too late.
I %100 agree that Argentina lost because they were overconfident. When you are pointed out as a candidate to win title before a single match is played, its obviously disruptive for mentality. I think there are %50 possibility Argentina will lose their self confidence from now and won't go to second round. (I still think Argentina won't be able to beat Poland).
Or they will concentrate to a single match instead of whole and gonna recover quickly. Hard to be sure which one is gonna be true.
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A few minutes lest Morocco vs Croatia match will be start . The two teams are fairly evenly matched so the game will be tight.  However, Croatia is somewhat stronger.  What do you think of today's game predictions?  Which team do you think will win?  I think Croatia will be slightly ahead in terms of goals. Or the match could be a draw, something like that would happen .what is your predictions ?


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November 23, 2022, 09:41:33 AM
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Absolutely right.

The Argentinians never really seemed to learn and adapt to what was happening. The Saudis performed the offside trap flawlessly multiple times.

Also the whole stadium was booing Argentina which probably wasn't something they are used to, bringing morale even lower.

Argentina was of course way better technically speaking, each player has amazing skills, but the Saudis won with pure tactic.

On the one hand, Argentina had to do something about Saudi Arabia's offside tactics, but on the other hand, it is almost impossible to change team play during the game. I think that the best decision on the part of the coach would be to instruct the players to try to attack using individual qualities, sacrificing team play. Given the large advantage in this indicator on the part of Argentina, this could bring success.
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November 23, 2022, 09:45:47 AM
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A few minutes lest Morocco vs Croatia match will be start . The two teams are fairly evenly matched so the game will be tight.  However, Croatia is somewhat stronger.  What do you think of today's game predictions?  Which team do you think will win?  I think Croatia will be slightly ahead in terms of goals. Or the match could be a draw, something like that would happen .what is your predictions ?
See Morocco doing a lot of damage. I hope Morocco will be able to get the first win for the continent of Africa in this world cup. This Moroccan team has all it takes to win the game looking at their lineup of players the key point for winning this game is the set pieces and putting the ball in the 18 box and free kicks. The right-hand side of Morocco is the strongest side. Croatia will  try to win the game or have a draw. They do not want to lose their first game.

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November 23, 2022, 09:46:45 AM
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A few minutes lest Morocco vs Croatia match will be start . The two teams are fairly evenly matched so the game will be tight.  However, Croatia is somewhat stronger.  What do you think of today's game predictions?  Which team do you think will win?  I think Croatia will be slightly ahead in terms of goals. Or the match could be a draw, something like that would happen .what is your predictions ?

I really hope that Croatia will win this match because I made a bet for them to win Smiley Morocco may be one of the best teams in Africa, but Croatia is also one of the best teams in Europe so they should win today. Morocco has strong defense, but lack in quality in the middle of the field where trio Modric, Brozovic and Kovacic rule. I guess Croatia will have the possession but their problem are strikers where they don't have a world class player.

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November 23, 2022, 09:59:51 AM
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A few minutes lest Morocco vs Croatia match will be start . The two teams are fairly evenly matched so the game will be tight.  However, Croatia is somewhat stronger.  What do you think of today's game predictions?  Which team do you think will win?  I think Croatia will be slightly ahead in terms of goals. Or the match could be a draw, something like that would happen .what is your predictions ?

I really hope that Croatia will win this match because I made a bet for them to win Smiley Morocco may be one of the best teams in Africa, but Croatia is also one of the best teams in Europe so they should win today. Morocco has strong defense, but lack in quality in the middle of the field where trio Modric, Brozovic and Kovacic rule. I guess Croatia will have the possession but their problem are strikers where they don't have a world class player.
This world cup is shocking everyone, to make predictions based on team history is not longer important, what's necessary is to access the current team and make your predictions. Morocco will give Croatia a tough game today. I'm sure both team will score and if am to give strength winning will give it to Morocco. But like I said this world is shocking, let's watch and enjoy the game today
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November 23, 2022, 10:33:03 AM
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A few minutes lest Morocco vs Croatia match will be start . The two teams are fairly evenly matched so the game will be tight.  However, Croatia is somewhat stronger.  What do you think of today's game predictions?  Which team do you think will win?  I think Croatia will be slightly ahead in terms of goals. Or the match could be a draw, something like that would happen .what is your predictions ?

I really hope that Croatia will win this match because I made a bet for them to win Smiley Morocco may be one of the best teams in Africa, but Croatia is also one of the best teams in Europe so they should win today. Morocco has strong defense, but lack in quality in the middle of the field where trio Modric, Brozovic and Kovacic rule. I guess Croatia will have the possession but their problem are strikers where they don't have a world class player.
This world cup is shocking everyone, to make predictions based on team history is not longer important, what's necessary is to access the current team and make your predictions. Morocco will give Croatia a tough game today. I'm sure both team will score and if am to give strength winning will give it to Morocco. But like I said this world is shocking, let's watch and enjoy the game today
This is going to be an interesting game between Morocco and Croatia, till now both of them are trying to score a goal. Half and hour till game started and 1st half about to end let's see who will be successful in scoring goal first.

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November 23, 2022, 10:45:18 AM
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I really hope that Croatia will win this match because I made a bet for them to win Smiley Morocco may be one of the best teams in Africa, but Croatia is also one of the best teams in Europe so they should win today. Morocco has strong defense, but lack in quality in the middle of the field where trio Modric, Brozovic and Kovacic rule. I guess Croatia will have the possession but their problem are strikers where they don't have a world class player.
Quality of Croatia is lower than four years ago and I wish a good World Cup for Luka Modric but honestly I really think Croatia will not be available for knock-out phases. Their younger players can not replace players in generation of Modric, Kalinic, Rakitic, Mandzukic and Perisic. This is not good for their performance in this World Cup.

On the one hand, Argentina had to do something about Saudi Arabia's offside tactics, but on the other hand, it is almost impossible to change team play during the game. I think that the best decision on the part of the coach would be to instruct the players to try to attack using individual qualities, sacrificing team play. Given the large advantage in this indicator on the part of Argentina, this could bring success.
Argentina did created many chances in the match but it is a very terrible one for them. Luckiness did not stand with Argentina but chose to stand with Saudi Arabia. At the end, Saudi Arabia made one of biggest shock in World Cup history and their win is a good one for Asian teams. In previous days, both Iran and Australia had two big defeats and in coming days we will see two other clubs from Asia, Japan and South Korea.

Argentina must play will all carefulness in two matches ahead because if they can not win in one of two matches, they will mostly not be able to join knockout later.

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November 23, 2022, 10:48:39 AM
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A few minutes lest Morocco vs Croatia match will be start . The two teams are fairly evenly matched so the game will be tight.  However, Croatia is somewhat stronger.  What do you think of today's game predictions?  Which team do you think will win?  I think Croatia will be slightly ahead in terms of goals. Or the match could be a draw, something like that would happen .what is your predictions ?

I really hope that Croatia will win this match because I made a bet for them to win Smiley Morocco may be one of the best teams in Africa, but Croatia is also one of the best teams in Europe so they should win today. Morocco has strong defense, but lack in quality in the middle of the field where trio Modric, Brozovic and Kovacic rule. I guess Croatia will have the possession but their problem are strikers where they don't have a world class player.
This world cup is shocking everyone, to make predictions based on team history is not longer important, what's necessary is to access the current team and make your predictions. Morocco will give Croatia a tough game today. I'm sure both team will score and if am to give strength winning will give it to Morocco. But like I said this world is shocking, let's watch and enjoy the game today
I totally agree with you.  And that's why I'm not so worried about today's game, I'm actually worried about tomorrow's game because Serbia is going to play against Brazil tomorrow.  We have already seen Argentina beated by Saudi Arabia 2-1.  Although according to the performance of Brazil, it is understood that the winning percentage of brazil is more than Serbia, but this year's FIFA Cup is really going to be unpredictable.

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November 23, 2022, 11:14:16 AM
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A few minutes lest Morocco vs Croatia match will be start . The two teams are fairly evenly matched so the game will be tight.  However, Croatia is somewhat stronger.  What do you think of today's game predictions?  Which team do you think will win?  I think Croatia will be slightly ahead in terms of goals. Or the match could be a draw, something like that would happen .what is your predictions ?

I really hope that Croatia will win this match because I made a bet for them to win Smiley Morocco may be one of the best teams in Africa, but Croatia is also one of the best teams in Europe so they should win today. Morocco has strong defense, but lack in quality in the middle of the field where trio Modric, Brozovic and Kovacic rule. I guess Croatia will have the possession but their problem are strikers where they don't have a world class player.
This world cup is shocking everyone, to make predictions based on team history is not longer important, what's necessary is to access the current team and make your predictions. Morocco will give Croatia a tough game today. I'm sure both team will score and if am to give strength winning will give it to Morocco. But like I said this world is shocking, let's watch and enjoy the game today
Both teams continue to play very well after the end of the first half time there is no goal and now the second half has started but there is a hard fight between the two teams . no one is able to get the ball to the goalbar and the two teams are almost equally strong because of which team is different from the other team Can't top the team and score goals. The game is very interesting. It's very fun to watch because it's a hard-fought game.


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November 23, 2022, 11:19:59 AM
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A few minutes lest Morocco vs Croatia match will be start . The two teams are fairly evenly matched so the game will be tight.  However, Croatia is somewhat stronger.  What do you think of today's game predictions?  Which team do you think will win?  I think Croatia will be slightly ahead in terms of goals. Or the match could be a draw, something like that would happen .what is your predictions ?
The first half ended the match between Mexico vs Croatia, the current score is still 0-0, both teams played a very interesting game, they both traded attacks, Croatia has very good mental quality, it's clear that the Croatian team is superior in this match, because of the slick report card at the 2018 world cup made Modric et al a team to fear and managed to get through the group F stage, but maroco also has several experienced players who play in European leagues,
But my prediction from group F,
Belgium and Croatia who managed to qualify for the last 16 of the world cup.

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November 23, 2022, 11:21:37 AM
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A few minutes lest Morocco vs Croatia match will be start . The two teams are fairly evenly matched so the game will be tight.  However, Croatia is somewhat stronger.  What do you think of today's game predictions?  Which team do you think will win?  I think Croatia will be slightly ahead in terms of goals. Or the match could be a draw, something like that would happen .what is your predictions ?

I really hope that Croatia will win this match because I made a bet for them to win Smiley Morocco may be one of the best teams in Africa, but Croatia is also one of the best teams in Europe so they should win today. Morocco has strong defense, but lack in quality in the middle of the field where trio Modric, Brozovic and Kovacic rule. I guess Croatia will have the possession but their problem are strikers where they don't have a world class player.
This world cup is shocking everyone, to make predictions based on team history is not longer important, what's necessary is to access the current team and make your predictions. Morocco will give Croatia a tough game today. I'm sure both team will score and if am to give strength winning will give it to Morocco. But like I said this world is shocking, let's watch and enjoy the game today
I totally agree with you.  And that's why I'm not so worried about today's game, I'm actually worried about tomorrow's game because Serbia is going to play against Brazil tomorrow.  We have already seen Argentina beated by Saudi Arabia 2-1.  Although according to the performance of Brazil, it is understood that the winning percentage of brazil is more than Serbia, but this year's FIFA Cup is really going to be unpredictable.
Here I will say that the best will win. You may have emphasized the World Cup situation rather than Argentina's situation, but the reality is that Argentina made the mistake that other countries will not make the same mistake. However, depending on the match in Argentina, a much stronger team has now become quite active. Hopefully Brazil will not follow that same way that Argentina walked. Their action and strategies will also be different.

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November 23, 2022, 12:44:00 PM
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I think Argentina have little chance of getting out of Group C after losing to Saudi Arabia. Mexico and Poland are not favourites for the championship. But these two teams are traditionally the dark horses. I think after the draw in the Mexico vs. Poland match, these teams are the main contenders qualify from the group C.

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