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Question: UEFA Champions League 2022/23 Season Winner?
Real Madrid - 49 (33.3%)
Barcelona - 13 (8.8%)
Manchester City - 51 (34.7%)
Chelsea - 6 (4.1%)
Liverpool - 4 (2.7%)
Paris Saint-Germain - 9 (6.1%)
AC Milan - 2 (1.4%)
Other - 13 (8.8%)
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September 16, 2022, 07:46:57 PM
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I think Ajax are a good team but are not built to lift the champions League season after season, what happened to them reaching the final was a fairy tale journey, it happens once in a long time, so disappointed that Tottenham cut that story short, I think Paris Saint Germain wants to put that trophy inside their cabinet,it has been a long time and I think they have a better squad to do that now, last season was an adapting process for Lionel Messi and Sergio Ramos I think these two can makes a difference this season, while Manchester city seems to have putting what has been missing in their team by bringing a striker like haaland so I think they might nail it this season.
Ajax need a miracle to reach the final in the Champions League, but it is always possible if they can impress in every game and progress from round to round until the final. Their chances are very low compared to other teams, so I'm sure their journey this season in the Champions League will not reach the quarter-finals. Qualifying for the round of 16 is ok for them, but who knows even though Liverpool and Napoli seem to be stronger than them.

The Ajax team is strong enough. And they are famous because of their amazing match strategy and gameplay. Despite having relatively few star players, Ajax's performance is very commendable. However, Ajax does not have the squad to qualify for the Champions League final. I don't even think they will qualify for the round of 16. They lost against Liverpool in the last match as well. They must win against Napoli next match. If they fail to win against Napoli, they will not qualify for the next round.

Ajax always have a good team that finishes either in quarters or semi finals of the champions league and each year their team is looking better and better. They can surprise and reach the champions league final but a lot of huge things need to happen for them .

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September 16, 2022, 08:05:23 PM
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Ajax need a miracle to reach the final in the Champions League, but it is always possible if they can impress in every game and progress from round to round until the final. Their chances are very low compared to other teams, so I'm sure their journey this season in the Champions League will not reach the quarter-finals. Qualifying for the round of 16 is ok for them, but who knows even though Liverpool and Napoli seem to be stronger than them.
No doubt Ajax needs a miracle for reaching into Champions League final, but I have completely different view in this season as their group is having teams like Napoli, Liverpool they have very few chances going into knock out stage because they are not good enough to beat Napoli in away match and already lost against Liverpool with most chances they can face tough challenge against them at home as well with they already sell their few quality players which were able to give them good results and now surely they need miracle for going into next round in presence of these teams.

Currently, as they have funds from few transfers now time for them to have quality players which give them quality results in Champions League in future because now things are not easy for them in present.

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September 16, 2022, 08:53:29 PM
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It will be difficult for Ajax, but not impossible. They still play both games against Napoli. Ajax must then certainly win 1x and not lose 1x. Then they are good for it. We can assume that Rangers will no longer play a significant role in this group. It is also possible that the Rangers will not get any points at all. Liverpool have recovered with a good game, but that can go wrong again. I'm looking forward to Ajax-Liverpool. If Napoli wins away at Ajax, then I think it is decided.

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September 16, 2022, 09:24:04 PM
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As you said, strong teams often lose to weaker clubs. We can't predict it, remember that last season Bayern Munich was also the strongest club candidate before finally losing to Villareal which in La Liga they didn't look too good. The Champions League can motivate weak clubs to become strong and because it is a prestigious League there will be many unexpected possibilities. Man City, PSG and clubs that are considered giants must remain vigilant.
Surprise every possible, there must have been Villarreal and Salzburg last season was full of surprises but things like that are only limited to being a stumbling block because still when you are at the end the big teams are always at the top.
Currently in the group stage Club Brugge managed to surprise me in group B because with opponents who can be said to be quite well-known in the Champions League like Atletico, Porto and Leverkusen they now stand comfortably at the top of the group standings.
There is a bit of situation where they may think that they could end up with a good amount of "underestimating the opponent" going on as well. I am not saying that each loss attributed to that, but the example we gave, Bayern losing to Villareal was a typical underestimating the opponent.

Bayern was much better team, not even close on levels, and Villareal took that as advantage and used that to make a good unexpected win. Bayern thought they would win easily, 3-0 or 4-0 style, and they didn't expected a team that strong and united against them. These type of situations do rise up time to time and I believe that it could happen this year as well.
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September 16, 2022, 10:19:13 PM
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One thing about predicting UCL is that you always missed it with big teams. Take a look at 2 season ago winners, Chelsea, they started off badly and then come February after changing coach they won it. Same thing happened to Real Madrid last season, they look a lost team in the group stages and even lost to new comers Sheriff, but they proceed to win it miraculously by beaten the best teams in Europe. Man City look sharp now but its just a start to the season and its also a world Cup season. Let's see till after the world Cup
Will history repeat itself, I  certainly don't think so. A lot has changed in Chelsea, Chelsea players are been regarded as low-class players that can't reach the round of 16. A surprising turnaround can happen but let it not be too late before they start to adhere to the new coach's football patterns.

Real Madrid will not be that lucky this season. The god of soccer won't favour and be on their side this time around

 
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September 16, 2022, 10:20:15 PM
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Again and again Real Madrid was not in the prediction, because the previous season also Real Madrid were not considered for the Champions League title but in fact they were kings. I just don't want to have high hopes for any team to win the title this season, because I am also aware that some big teams with great squads certainly have a chance to win the title. But again and again, they are still difficult to predict even from the start until the end, there will always be surprises which of course all teams fight as best they can.

Kikikikiki...you just made me laugh this night. I read your comment and remembered something. I was discussing football with my brother and at one point in what seems like an argument, he asked me to name to favourite clubs to win the Champions League. I quickly mentioned Manchester City, Bayern Munich and PSG. And I told him that these are surely one of the people we will see in the finals. I was now telling him to mention, he said how did I forget Real Madrid. I immediately came back to my senses that those guys can't be written off in champions league even if they decided to play with their fans instead of their players.
They are always underrated at start but they perform in the end.

 
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One thing is certain that Real Madrid are always going to be secretly the biggest favourite team to win the Champions League title.  Grin

Because they have a huge domination in the Champions League if we look at how many times they have become the champions in the recent 10 years. Maybe they don't have the best squad among the teams now. But they are using their experience in this tournament very well. Ancelotti also has a system that works very well with the team now. Last season was not easy for Real Madrid at all. I don't know how they still managed to make it to the title despite every problem they had. Manchester City were nearly pushing them out of the tournament for example.

 
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It will be difficult for Ajax, but not impossible. They still play both games against Napoli. Ajax must then certainly win 1x and not lose 1x. Then they are good for it. We can assume that Rangers will no longer play a significant role in this group. It is also possible that the Rangers will not get any points at all. Liverpool have recovered with a good game, but that can go wrong again. I'm looking forward to Ajax-Liverpool. If Napoli wins away at Ajax, then I think it is decided.

In group A Napoli lead at the top with an unbeaten appearance in the group stage. While Liverpool and Rangers accepted defeat in in their previous match with Napoli
Ajax will host Napoli in week 3 of the Champions League group stage next October, before this Ajax suffered a defeat against Liverpool. Even Ajax see unable to maintain their performance when they met Liverpool yesterday, then what happens when they face Napoli later.
This will make it difficult for Ajax to defend, I believe they will be eliminated to the group stage of the Europa League

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September 17, 2022, 01:46:14 AM
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It will be difficult for Ajax, but not impossible. They still play both games against Napoli. Ajax must then certainly win 1x and not lose 1x. Then they are good for it. We can assume that Rangers will no longer play a significant role in this group. It is also possible that the Rangers will not get any points at all. Liverpool have recovered with a good game, but that can go wrong again. I'm looking forward to Ajax-Liverpool. If Napoli wins away at Ajax, then I think it is decided.

In my opinion, Ajax has a very small chance to qualify from the Champions League group stage, because in Group A there are Napoli and Liverpool
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because it is likely that in the end Ajax will be in 3rd position in Group A.

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Again and again Real Madrid was not in the prediction, because the previous season also Real Madrid were not considered for the Champions League title but in fact they were kings. I just don't want to have high hopes for any team to win the title this season, because I am also aware that some big teams with great squads certainly have a chance to win the title. But again and again, they are still difficult to predict even from the start until the end, there will always be surprises which of course all teams fight as best they can.

Kikikikiki...you just made me laugh this night. I read your comment and remembered something. I was discussing football with my brother and at one point in what seems like an argument, he asked me to name to favourite clubs to win the Champions League. I quickly mentioned Manchester City, Bayern Munich and PSG. And I told him that these are surely one of the people we will see in the finals. I was now telling him to mention, he said how did I forget Real Madrid. I immediately came back to my senses that those guys can't be written off in champions league even if they decided to play with their fans instead of their players.
They are always underrated at start but they perform in the end.

Yes like Leipzig, Madrid just won in the last minutes (80' and 90'), and they have strong resistance from the Bundesliga club which I think will continue when have met the bavarian. Real Madrid is also not expected to be Champions in the Zidane era because too many clubs strong than them, but all the thing is not the same on the fields. And in fact, they are capable of being Champion because they have mental for that.

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September 17, 2022, 01:52:16 AM
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I think, it will be difficult for PSG to win this season trophy because their starting in this UEFA champions competition, showed that they will not go far in this season if their coach continue benching some of the players that know how to attract early goals on the first half. If PSG coach can work on their midfield before their next match, I believe there will be massive change, because their strikers are lacking help from their midfielders. I don't think Ajax can defeat Manchester city in this season, because many things has changed in Manchester city in this season that will make them unbeatable through out this tournament.
One thing about predicting UCL is that you always missed it with big teams. Take a look at 2 season ago winners, Chelsea, they started off badly and then come February after changing coach they won it. Same thing happened to Real Madrid last season, they look a lost team in the group stages and even lost to new comers Sheriff, but they proceed to win it miraculously by beaten the best teams in Europe. Man City look sharp now but its just a start to the season and its also a world Cup season. Let's see till after the world Cup

The world cup tournament seems to tire the players a lot.  After crashing from this exhausting marathon and playing in the champions league, we may see more injuries this year.  Manchester City started very well.  Squad quality is also very high.  I think they can win UCL with Haaland this year.

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September 17, 2022, 03:47:54 AM
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Again and again Real Madrid was not in the prediction, because the previous season also Real Madrid were not considered for the Champions League title but in fact they were kings. I just don't want to have high hopes for any team to win the title this season, because I am also aware that some big teams with great squads certainly have a chance to win the title. But again and again, they are still difficult to predict even from the start until the end, there will always be surprises which of course all teams fight as best they can.
Real Madrid were of course lucky after they were confirmed in Group F where the other 3 teams didn't seem like a big deal to them. I don't think we will drop points in the group stage even if Benzema is out through injury. Leipzig, Shakhtar Donetsk and Celtic seem to be easy opponents for Real Madrid, so I hope we are safe to lead the table until matchday 6.

For now I don't want to talk too much especially about the final yet to be seen. Even if Real Madrid can easily qualify for the last 16, it won't guarantee anything we can get to the final this season.
Yes, it's too soon to predict now for the final later. although predicting it from now is also not a problem. but of course I also prefer to focus on the upcoming matches.
And regarding Real Madrid, it has always been a hot topic of discussion every season. because there is always something that deserves the spotlight of Real Madrid. Even Real Madrid's consistent performance has always been in the spotlight. and when it comes to being a champion. So of course Real Madrid have a strong opportunity for that.

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September 17, 2022, 04:14:07 AM
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Again and again Real Madrid was not in the prediction, because the previous season also Real Madrid were not considered for the Champions League title but in fact they were kings. I just don't want to have high hopes for any team to win the title this season, because I am also aware that some big teams with great squads certainly have a chance to win the title. But again and again, they are still difficult to predict even from the start until the end, there will always be surprises which of course all teams fight as best they can.
Real Madrid were of course lucky after they were confirmed in Group F where the other 3 teams didn't seem like a big deal to them. I don't think we will drop points in the group stage even if Benzema is out through injury. Leipzig, Shakhtar Donetsk and Celtic seem to be easy opponents for Real Madrid, so I hope we are safe to lead the table until matchday 6.

For now I don't want to talk too much especially about the final yet to be seen. Even if Real Madrid can easily qualify for the last 16, it won't guarantee anything we can get to the final this season.
I think you are absolutely right here in the Europa Champions League it takes a long time but I think there are a lot of players who give their best game but from here I think it will be a long game and we will see good games.  We have to wait for him

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September 17, 2022, 04:34:25 AM
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In my opinion, Ajax has a very small chance to qualify from the Champions League group stage, because in Group A there are Napoli and Liverpool
who are more superior to qualify from the group phase than Ajax. But if Ajax can beat Napoli in the next match, it makes Ajax's chances of qualifying
from the group stage more open. The key is in the Ajax vs Napoli match, Ajax must put out their best game and win the match if serious to qualify
for the next round. But if we look at Napoli's excellent performance by beating Liverpool and Rangers with a fairly large score, I'm sure Napoli will
beat Ajax. Moreover, Ajax is now not as strong as Ajax in the previous season, now Ajax have lost a lot of their star players who moved to other clubs,
then Ajax also lost Erik ten Hag as their coach. It looks like Ajax will fail to qualify from the group stage and will play in the Europa League,
because it is likely that in the end Ajax will be in 3rd position in Group A.

I don't agree with you about Ajax, they played great against Liverpool and confidently beat Rangers. Despite the fact that Napoli started the group stage well, it still doesn't mean anything. Ajax will almost certainly beat Napoli at home and possibly beat Liverpool as well. The group is very complex and everything is very confusing in it. The only thing that can be said for sure is that Rangers will be in last place, although even they sometimes have breakthroughs when they start to play better, but now the Champions League is clearly not their level.

 
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In my opinion, Ajax has a very small chance to qualify from the Champions League group stage, because in Group A there are Napoli and Liverpool
who are more superior to qualify from the group phase than Ajax. But if Ajax can beat Napoli in the next match, it makes Ajax's chances of qualifying
from the group stage more open. The key is in the Ajax vs Napoli match, Ajax must put out their best game and win the match if serious to qualify
for the next round. But if we look at Napoli's excellent performance by beating Liverpool and Rangers with a fairly large score, I'm sure Napoli will
beat Ajax. Moreover, Ajax is now not as strong as Ajax in the previous season, now Ajax have lost a lot of their star players who moved to other clubs,
then Ajax also lost Erik ten Hag as their coach. It looks like Ajax will fail to qualify from the group stage and will play in the Europa League,
because it is likely that in the end Ajax will be in 3rd position in Group A.

I don't agree with you about Ajax, they played great against Liverpool and confidently beat Rangers. Despite the fact that Napoli started the group stage well, it still doesn't mean anything. Ajax will almost certainly beat Napoli at home and possibly beat Liverpool as well. The group is very complex and everything is very confusing in it. The only thing that can be said for sure is that Rangers will be in last place, although even they sometimes have breakthroughs when they start to play better, but now the Champions League is clearly not their level.

It is not very good to write Ajax off this early time because we perceived that Liverpool and Napoli are bigger names than Ajax. We should not allow names to deceive us in making judgements. Ajax has proven that they are strong and can pull wonders from the group stage.
You can see with me that Liverpool is not finding great games this season and they are still looking for the beat strategy that will favour them but Ajax has already gotten a strategy. What I actually have to say is that Ajax team I watched has the capability to beat any club in their group if they so determine to do. According to the last comment before mine, the only sure and predictable thing is that Rangers will not qualify from the group, apart from that, every other things are open and anyone of the threecubs can grab it.

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September 17, 2022, 05:46:11 AM
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There are strong teams in the champions league this season but their is this team that always beat big teams but they will not still near the finals. Ajax Amsterdam, Paris Saint Germain and Manchester city. Ajax can win tough clubs in the league and still yet, would be eliminated from either round 8 or quarter finals. Manchester city were once given the chance to lift the UEFEA trophy but they failed after losing to Chelsea in the finals. Concerning PSG, I don't really know their problem and can't just see the reason why they can't win the UEFEA because they have one of the best squad in the league and they always lift the Ligue 1 title with ease. Let's hope one of them lift the trophy this season.

I think, it will be difficult for PSG to win this season trophy because their starting in this UEFA champions competition, showed that they will not go far in this season if their coach continue benching some of the players that know how to attract early goals on the first half. If PSG coach can work on their midfield before their next match, I believe there will be massive change, because their strikers are lacking help from their midfielders. I don't think Ajax can defeat Manchester city in this season, because many things has changed in Manchester city in this season that will make them unbeatable through out this tournament.
This is going to be a long season and with the world cup coming up soon the league fixtures are really tight so it is understandable to see some squad rotations on various occasions to give room to other players and to rest the best ones for tougher games. Sometimes these rotations term to drop the teams performance but in the long run it is important to preserve the best players for the toughest games.

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September 17, 2022, 06:00:03 AM
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One thing about predicting UCL is that you always missed it with big teams. Take a look at 2 season ago winners, Chelsea, they started off badly and then come February after changing coach they won it. Same thing happened to Real Madrid last season, they look a lost team in the group stages and even lost to new comers Sheriff, but they proceed to win it miraculously by beaten the best teams in Europe. Man City look sharp now but its just a start to the season and its also a world Cup season. Let's see till after the world Cup
Will history repeat itself, I  certainly don't think so. A lot has changed in Chelsea, Chelsea players are been regarded as low-class players that can't reach the round of 16. A surprising turnaround can happen but let it not be too late before they start to adhere to the new coach's football patterns.

Real Madrid will not be that lucky this season. The god of soccer won't favour and be on their side this time around
I agreed with your first half of this review but not with all as Chelsea is surely having some trouble specially after lost of their first Russian owner and now with the change of Coach which is also not good for them on this time with these changes most chances they are going to be had hard challenge to reach into last 16 teams their opening matches are giving all their performance indicators even they have few world-class players, but they are not able to preform as they needed to do this.

Real Madrid is doing good and having good run in their start of this season with La Liga and Champions League both results are giving how strong they are even god of soccer is not with them in this season for title, but I have feeling lady of luck always with them in affair with this Champions League, and they can do something special even having not good chance with this most chances this year Champions League title is going to be with the which is going to win this first time.

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September 17, 2022, 06:41:36 AM
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I don't agree with you about Ajax, they played great against Liverpool and confidently beat Rangers. Despite the fact that Napoli started the group stage well, it still doesn't mean anything. Ajax will almost certainly beat Napoli at home and possibly beat Liverpool as well. The group is very complex and everything is very confusing in it. The only thing that can be said for sure is that Rangers will be in last place, although even they sometimes have breakthroughs when they start to play better, but now the Champions League is clearly not their level.
Ajax cannot be underestimated. There are many things that Ajax can do to survive in the group stage. Even though there are Napoli and Liverpool, Ajax opportunities are still open. There are 3 matches left to see who survives in Group A. So, if there are 2 matches remaining, it will be clear which club has qualified. I think that Ajax and the young players currently developing need time, but the Champions League is always unpredictable.

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September 17, 2022, 06:49:55 AM
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It is not very good to write Ajax off this early time because we perceived that Liverpool and Napoli are bigger names than Ajax. We should not allow names to deceive us in making judgements. Ajax has proven that they are strong and can pull wonders from the group stage.
You can see with me that Liverpool is not finding great games this season and they are still looking for the beat strategy that will favour them but Ajax has already gotten a strategy. What I actually have to say is that Ajax team I watched has the capability to beat any club in their group if they so determine to do. According to the last comment before mine, the only sure and predictable thing is that Rangers will not qualify from the group, apart from that, every other things are open and anyone of the threecubs can grab it.

I can't say that Ajax is a less famous team than Napoli, I would even say that in recent years Ajax have achieved much better results in the European arena. Ajax score a lot in every match, except for the match with Liverpool when they managed to score only one goal. I thought that Ajax and Liverpool would be the leaders, but Napoli also turned out to be very ambitious and, unexpectedly for me, beat Liverpool. Nothing is clear about this group yet.

 
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September 17, 2022, 11:01:47 AM
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I was curious about why Real Madrid's odd was high again as it was around 1.65. However I still trusted them with my bet and won nicely. Considering the strength of their opponents so far these were really nice opportunities for placing a bet on them. It will be the same for their Shakhtar match also. I'd love to have another odd like this to take advantage of it.  Grin
I am not sure why Madrid odds was quite high compare to other teams odds such as Manchester City or PSG which is usually very low but my thoughts is because this season Madrid is not the first favourite to win champion league so that's why they have high odds for each matches but i think this is good opportunity to bets for them because they can wins for almost every matches and last week too while against Celtic bookmakers provide high odds for them approximately @1.73 next match against Shakhtar probably the odds will not so different



I've checked it and seen this.  Grin  This time Real Madrid's odd is very low which is not worth adding to a betslip. Real Madrid over 1.5 goals doesn't have any odd yet so maybe it might be more logical to bet on. Because Real Madrid don't have much problem on scoring multiple goals now.



Ajax are indeed not a team that should be underestimated in the Champions League. Ajax have a couple of titles won in this tournament in the distant past. When we come back to the near history of the tournament we can see a season that they reached the semi final too. They have been a much more successful team than Napoli here as a result. I'm aware of how strong Napoli are playing now. But the most important part of this group will be the matches between Napoli and Ajax. They are going to face each other two times in a row now. We will see for real which side is better this season.
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