[Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023

[dothebeats]

However, if you are just looking for the underdog bet, regardless on who will it be or what fight it is then Santiago ML will be enough, just saying.

That's suicidal thinking. Knowing Donaire, I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and can dominate the division. Santiago may be younger, but he doesn't possess the skills and experience that Donaire has. If we're just after attractive odds, we should consider going for a KO per round range bet, as most of the time the odds are higher than +200.

In my sportsbook, Alejandro Santiago's odds are 2.31x and if you're inclined for some adventure in your bets like betting towards the underdog then that would be the line for you as Donaire's line are much lower ranging from 1.5x - 1.7x. Besides, I agree that it would be beneficial for us bettors because I don't think that an upset is going to happen in this fight, I know that it is not a guaranteed win but Donaire's chances are much greater compared to his foe.

I'd take that Donaire's bet just to be on the safe side. While the dude may be older (as I have stated on my previous posts), he still has a lot of techniques and skill developed over the years of boxing professionally. Santiago's relatively young, and though he may have more stamina and can tank more punches, I doubt he can defeat Donaire in terms of speed and footwork. 1.5x - 1.7x odds aren't too bad for a favorite, especially if that favorite is one of the legends in the ring. That defeat to Inoue might have set him back in the eyes of bookmakers, but he is undoubtedly one of the most vicious fighters in the bantamweight division currently.

[serjent05]

However, if you are just looking for the underdog bet, regardless on who will it be or what fight it is then Santiago ML will be enough, just saying.

That's suicidal thinking. Knowing Donaire, I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and can dominate the division. Santiago may be younger, but he doesn't possess the skills and experience that Donaire has. If we're just after attractive odds, we should consider going for a KO per round range bet, as most of the time the odds are higher than +200.

I know, I'm just saying though, maybe there could be fans of Alejandro that is willing to take the rest and very happy to see that their boy is the underdog. So I don't think that they will think it as a suicide bet.

Those who love high reward can bet for the underdog.  Besides it is normal in boxing to have an upset win which often happens when a younger boxer labeled as an underdog fight against an aged boxer who is way past his prime.  Just remember the Paquiao - Dela Hoya fight, I believe Manny won't stand a chance if Dela Hoya is in his prime.

Of course, as fans of Donaire on the other hand, we will think that there is no value in betting with Alejandro as we think that Donaire can still pull the trigger and make this fight exciting or dominate it and not let the fight goes to the hands of the judges to score it. Already fight week so for sure majority of us will spare some of our BTC in this fight.

It is obvious as a fan and wanted to support Donaire, we will still bet on Donaire even if Alejandro is capable of beating Donaire.  I still think that it is too early to say that Alejandro is not capable of beating Donaire, we don't know how Alejandro prepares for this fight and it is obvious that the guy is serious and probably has something in his sleeves that can defeat Donaire.  He may probably surprise us, I don't know but considering upset wins frequently happen in boxing,  so we cannot be 100% confident that Donaire will end up the victor of the fight.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

However, if you are just looking for the underdog bet, regardless on who will it be or what fight it is then Santiago ML will be enough, just saying.

That's suicidal thinking. Knowing Donaire, I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and can dominate the division. Santiago may be younger, but he doesn't possess the skills and experience that Donaire has. If we're just after attractive odds, we should consider going for a KO per round range bet, as most of the time the odds are higher than +200.

In my sportsbook, Alejandro Santiago's odds are 2.31x and if you're inclined for some adventure in your bets like betting towards the underdog then that would be the line for you as Donaire's line are much lower ranging from 1.5x - 1.7x. Besides, I agree that it would be beneficial for us bettors because I don't think that an upset is going to happen in this fight, I know that it is not a guaranteed win but Donaire's chances are much greater compared to his foe.

I'd take that Donaire's bet just to be on the safe side. While the dude may be older (as I have stated on my previous posts), he still has a lot of techniques and skill developed over the years of boxing professionally. Santiago's relatively young, and though he may have more stamina and can tank more punches, I doubt he can defeat Donaire in terms of speed and footwork. 1.5x - 1.7x odds aren't too bad for a favorite, especially if that favorite is one of the legends in the ring. That defeat to Inoue might have set him back in the eyes of bookmakers, but he is undoubtedly one of the most vicious fighters in the bantamweight division currently.

Experience wise, Donaire still has it, and even if Santiago is young, I think Donaire might be able to take his punch and then throw some of his left hooks though. And as boxers ages, obviously comes experienced. So Donaire has a big boxing IQ because of his years in the pro ranks and it could really help him in this fight specially if this becomes to close and might end up in the judges scorecard.

So a ML bet could also be good bet instead of waiting for more attractive odds to be listed. Just a few more days if I'm not mistaken right?

Gonna be another good weekends for boxing fans around the world.

[freedomgo]

However, if you are just looking for the underdog bet, regardless on who will it be or what fight it is then Santiago ML will be enough, just saying.

That's suicidal thinking. Knowing Donaire, I'm sure he still has a lot to offer and can dominate the division. Santiago may be younger, but he doesn't possess the skills and experience that Donaire has. If we're just after attractive odds, we should consider going for a KO per round range bet, as most of the time the odds are higher than +200.

I know, I'm just saying though, maybe there could be fans of Alejandro that is willing to take the rest and very happy to see that their boy is the underdog. So I don't think that they will think it as a suicide bet.

Of course, as fans of Donaire on the other hand, we will think that there is no value in betting with Alejandro as we think that Donaire can still pull the trigger and make this fight exciting or dominate it and not let the fight goes to the hands of the judges to score it. Already fight week so for sure majority of us will spare some of our BTC in this fight.

No doubt about that because if we are on their shoes and Nonito Donaire is on the underdog corner, I'd bet that many of us here who are supporting him will be glad that he is listed that way because that will mean that Donaire's odds are juicy and not the other way around. In this fight, it's the opposite though but that is fine by me as I'm not really inclined to bet on ML if my boxer is on the favorite side.

Correct. If we are in their shoes and we have seen that our favorite figure is listed as an underdog suredeal, we will quickly
We place our bet because we believe that it will bring us decent profits.

Same thing with how Santiago's fans will react, we can't remove the fact that there are people or fans out there who are believing that upset
can happen as it's boxing, and there's no guarantee.

Let's see what will happen, almost the fight schedule. it allows you to either advance your bet or wait for more available odds.

Yup, that gives us less than one week to place our bets towards this fight and for me, I'll be patiently waiting for the other options like the range of the fight and what would be the outcome as it will likely open in less than 48 hours. I'll try to remember the date because we never know, this might be the last fight of Nonito Donaire regardless of the result and for sure I cannot let that slide.

[bisdak40]

Experience wise, Donaire still has it, and even if Santiago is young, I think Donaire might be able to take his punch and then throw some of his left hooks though. And as boxers ages, obviously comes experienced. So Donaire has a big boxing IQ because of his years in the pro ranks and it could really help him in this fight specially if this becomes to close and might end up in the judges scorecard.

So a ML bet could also be good bet instead of waiting for more attractive odds to be listed. Just a few more days if I'm not mistaken right?

Gonna be another good weekends for boxing fans around the world.

ML odds of @1.62 boosted is already attractive, especially to those bettors who will allocate a substantial amount to bet for Donaire and that would be my choice if no other options that bookies will offer come weekend.

Experience and size would be Donaire's advantage for this coming fight and it will be obvious that Santiago will always be on the watch for that left hook counter after he throws some punch as this could be the end of the night for him. I reckon that this will end via KO if Donaire will win because if Donaire couldn't hit Santiago early, this might swing to the latter's advantage as the fight goes to the distance.

[aioc]

A few days before the fight and Nonito is showing confidence in this fight I just stumble this image in social media, I doubt if Santiago possesses the power of Inoue with only 40% knock out of his record, if he cannot hurt Donaire and he has a very good skill, Donaire could bring home the crown.

[Kemarit]

^^ Yes, saw this posts, not sure if the words comes directly from Donaire's mouth, but in any case, yes, I think I would say that 90% of the current 118 lbs, Donaire can beat them, not name Naoya Inoue.

So just a couple more days, between the two, and hopefully we will see some hype in the media as well as this is very important fight because WBC will have a new bantamweight champion in the process.

[mirakal]

A few days before the fight and Nonito is showing confidence in this fight I just stumble this image in social media, I doubt if Santiago possesses the power of Inoue with only 40% knock out of his record, if he cannot hurt Donaire and he has a very good skill, Donaire could bring home the crown.

Well, I cannot even deny that claims by the former champion because Nonito Donaire was just spitting some simple and understandable facts as there is no way that he will be defeated in this fight because Santiago doesn't have his strength nor Inoue's. In line to that, his chances to win are much more higher even if it is not a guaranteed and let's just get back to basics, Donaire will not pick Santiago if he knew that he will have a hard time fighting for that crown. He knew that his age will be a factor and right now, his goal is to be a champion first, nothing else.

[Distinctin]

Well, I cannot even deny that claims by the former champion because Nonito Donaire was just spitting some simple and understandable facts as there is no way that he will be defeated in this fight because Santiago doesn't have his strength nor Inoue's. In line to that, his chances to win are much more higher even if it is not a guaranteed and let's just get back to basics, Donaire will not pick Santiago if he knew that he will have a hard time fighting for that crown. He knew that his age will be a factor and right now, his goal is to be a champion first, nothing else.

He truly respected the power of Inoue and accepted that his power was what defeated him. Santiago is not a high-quality boxer, so I don't expect him to be able to knock out Donaire if he were to win. However, if Santiago loses, it's highly likely that Donaire will secure the victory by knockout.

Among the champions in his division, I believe that Donaire is likely to create a buzz with his impressive fighting style and the way he wins the fight.

[Kelvinid]

Well, I cannot even deny that claims by the former champion because Nonito Donaire was just spitting some simple and understandable facts as there is no way that he will be defeated in this fight because Santiago doesn't have his strength nor Inoue's. In line to that, his chances to win are much more higher even if it is not a guaranteed and let's just get back to basics, Donaire will not pick Santiago if he knew that he will have a hard time fighting for that crown. He knew that his age will be a factor and right now, his goal is to be a champion first, nothing else.

He truly respected the power of Inoue and accepted that his power was what defeated him. Santiago is not a high-quality boxer, so I don't expect him to be able to knock out Donaire if he were to win. However, if Santiago loses, it's highly likely that Donaire will secure the victory by knockout.

Among the champions in his division, I believe that Donaire is likely to create a buzz with his impressive fighting style and the way he wins the fight.

If he wins this fight, there's no doubt it will be by KO. Donaire's power is simply too much for this relatively unknown boxer. It's unfortunate that he has to face Donaire for the belt, but I hope he won't be discouraged if he experiences a devastating KO. I also hope he is adequately prepared to prevent such an outcome.

Remember, guys, this fight is scheduled to happen on July 15, 2023, so make sure not to miss it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/nonito-donaire-alexandro-santiago-wbc-title-fight-set-july-15-las-vegas--175355

[btc_angela]

Well, I cannot even deny that claims by the former champion because Nonito Donaire was just spitting some simple and understandable facts as there is no way that he will be defeated in this fight because Santiago doesn't have his strength nor Inoue's. In line to that, his chances to win are much more higher even if it is not a guaranteed and let's just get back to basics, Donaire will not pick Santiago if he knew that he will have a hard time fighting for that crown. He knew that his age will be a factor and right now, his goal is to be a champion first, nothing else.

He truly respected the power of Inoue and accepted that his power was what defeated him. Santiago is not a high-quality boxer, so I don't expect him to be able to knock out Donaire if he were to win. However, if Santiago loses, it's highly likely that Donaire will secure the victory by knockout.

Among the champions in his division, I believe that Donaire is likely to create a buzz with his impressive fighting style and the way he wins the fight.

If he wins this fight, there's no doubt it will be by KO. Donaire's power is simply too much for this relatively unknown boxer. It's unfortunate that he has to face Donaire for the belt, but I hope he won't be discouraged if he experiences a devastating KO. I also hope he is adequately prepared to prevent such an outcome.

Remember, guys, this fight is scheduled to happen on July 15, 2023, so make sure not to miss it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/nonito-donaire-alexandro-santiago-wbc-title-fight-set-july-15-las-vegas--175355

Yes, this fight will be this weekend so mark your calendar, and if you haven't put a bet yet then you still have some days to come and make the decision on what value you can find in this fight, Donaire by KO or Donaire by decision.

I think it's good that Donaire really measured himself against Inoue and so he knows where his power is and maybe it is still the best in this division since Inoue has move up in weight already.

[Hypnosis00]

I think it's good that Donaire really measured himself against Inoue and so he knows where his power is and maybe it is still the best in this division since Inoue has move up in weight already.

We will find out if he can reclaim the championship title. While Santiago may not pose a significant threat, this is still a championship fight, and Santiago will undoubtedly give his all to have a chance at defeating Donaire. I'm hoping for an exciting fight, and that often happens when a knockout occurs.

Donaire @1.60 by the way, I think it's already a good steal.

[Questat]

Donaire @1.60 by the way, I think it's already a good steal.

That's an opportunity IMO, not all the time do you get that odds when Donaire is the favorite, and considering his opponent is not a high rank in the division, I believe I will be very confident to bet on that spread. I check my bookies as well, there's still no alternative lines aside from ML odds.

@Kelvinid, thanks about the info on the date, I will add it in the thread title.

[Russlenat]

Well, I cannot even deny that claims by the former champion because Nonito Donaire was just spitting some simple and understandable facts as there is no way that he will be defeated in this fight because Santiago doesn't have his strength nor Inoue's. In line to that, his chances to win are much more higher even if it is not a guaranteed and let's just get back to basics, Donaire will not pick Santiago if he knew that he will have a hard time fighting for that crown. He knew that his age will be a factor and right now, his goal is to be a champion first, nothing else.

He truly respected the power of Inoue and accepted that his power was what defeated him. Santiago is not a high-quality boxer, so I don't expect him to be able to knock out Donaire if he were to win. However, if Santiago loses, it's highly likely that Donaire will secure the victory by knockout.

Among the champions in his division, I believe that Donaire is likely to create a buzz with his impressive fighting style and the way he wins the fight.

If he wins this fight, there's no doubt it will be by KO. Donaire's power is simply too much for this relatively unknown boxer. It's unfortunate that he has to face Donaire for the belt, but I hope he won't be discouraged if he experiences a devastating KO. I also hope he is adequately prepared to prevent such an outcome.

Remember, guys, this fight is scheduled to happen on July 15, 2023, so make sure not to miss it.

https://www.boxingscene.com/nonito-donaire-alexandro-santiago-wbc-title-fight-set-july-15-las-vegas--175355

Yes, this fight will be this weekend so mark your calendar, and if you haven't put a bet yet then you still have some days to come and make the decision on what value you can find in this fight, Donaire by KO or Donaire by decision.

I think it's good that Donaire really measured himself against Inoue and so he knows where his power is and maybe it is still the best in this division since Inoue has move up in weight already.

Yes, the fight night is already right around the corner and I just put my bets through for Donaire because the bookies already opened some more lines in this bout.
I managed to bet on Nonito Donaire to win via KO/TKO @ 3.20 and threw some on what round should the fight will end.

I was surprised to see the line because I only expected it to be a little bit over 2.3x because the ML is just 1.7x but the KO option went as far as 3.2x 

[Pamadar]

Donaire @1.60 by the way, I think it's already a good steal.

That's an opportunity IMO, not all the time do you get that odds when Donaire is the favorite, and considering his opponent is not a high rank in the division, I believe I will be very confident to bet on that spread. I check my bookies as well, there's still no alternative lines aside from ML odds.

@Kelvinid, thanks about the info on the date, I will add it in the thread title.

I solely agree with that. Even Donaire is already aging that such odd for me is already a steal.

We can't conclude yet, but the winning chance of Donaire is decent against Santiago and with the way he sees this upcoming
fight. I'm under the impression that he is still on the chase for the belt.

He mentioned that he was still confident and willing to take his chance, just not with the same level of Inoue as he knows the
rising champ already has a huge edge against him.

[inthelongrun]

^^ Yes, saw this posts, not sure if the words comes directly from Donaire's mouth, but in any case, yes, I think I would say that 90% of the current 118 lbs, Donaire can beat them, not name Naoya Inoue.

So just a couple more days, between the two, and hopefully we will see some hype in the media as well as this is very important fight because WBC will have a new bantamweight champion in the process.

Yeah, I am pretty sure Donaire is aware of the current situation. The power of Donaire is just too much in this division. Since becoming a champion after that huge KO upset over Vic Darchinyan, there were only 2 fighters in this division and below that were able to survive Donaire's power punches, long-time champion Omar Narvaez who went turtle defense throughout the whole fight and Rafael Concepcion who came in 2 division overweight.

A few more days left and we will see if Donaire who's turning 41 this year will be able to break his own previous record as the oldest champion in this division's history. Santiago is not a KO artist so he is expected to move and box. Santiago only suffered a single knockdown in his whole career once which means his chin is tough and it will be put to another huge test this weekend. And we will also see if Donaire won't tire out in the late rounds if he cannot catch Santiago in the first 7 rounds.

[LUCKMCFLY]

Agreed. The only reason why Donaire is still continuing his career here in boxing industry is he thinks that he can still have a good fight and defeat the younger guys at 118 but if the opposite will happen especially if he will be defeated without a doubt or worse, a KO/TKO. I think that will be an enough reason for him to believe that his time is already finished because he's not the same Donaire anymore and most probably, cannot become a champion again before he hangs up his gloves.

Also because his last fight was against a truly stronger one in the 118 and that is Naoya Inoue so he thinks he can still match with other boxers in that division. If some boxers in 118 will now put Donaire to another loss, that's the time maybe that he will consider retiring.

If happened that he still dominated Santiago here, it will give him think that he can still face young boxers despite his age. Maybe after he wins here, he will still have 1-2 fights and that's enough to make him fight in a unification match at the age of 42-43.

If Donaire loses and Santiago wins, there is no sense of continuing his boxing journey now and it's good to hang his gloves now. He cemented already his legacy as one of the well-known PH boxers who established a great boxing career.

Personally, I would like Nonito Donaire to be able to demonstrate that age is not an impediment to sport, on the contrary, that the more seniority and the more experience the better for every boxer and I believe that for every athlete, this It is something that will always be noticed, not only in boxing do you see these things, but also in soccer I have seen that the players always do whatever it takes to look fit and be in shape, so that new players do not surpass them or hurt them. gain in speed, that's what they always fear, but that's something that can go wrong, in boxers things look different.

Of course, who wouldn't want Nonito to have another belt at his age and makes history, and we have seen elite boxers defying age as a factor and winning. George Foreman for example, become the oldest HW champion at age 45.

There could be a lot of factors, maybe it was genetics or discipline or the environment. But nevertheless we've witnessed Donaire knocking everyone out except Naoya Inoue. And he has maintain this weight for so long that maybe his body is used to it and that's why he has been in boxing for so long.

Exactly, for that reason, +he needs this opportunity, he needs it, it's no longer a story, things with Nonito must be done now, but of course, we all know that the business model is not with Nnonito, because of his small popularity, The business he likes is to have another type of show where there are many more million-dollar profits, this is something common that now manifests itself in all senses , for this reason I always think that here interests are above sport , They don't give sport the importance it is, but that's what the fans are for , to remind them that Things can be done Well.

Nonito needs an opportunity , as is given to many Boxers, why not Give it Now?

Nonito Donaire vs. Alexandro Santiago: Date, start time, TV channel and live stream

Nonito Donaire faces Alexandro Santiago on Saturday night in Las Vegas, for the vacant WBC bantamweight title.

Donaire already holds the record for the oldest fighter to become bantamweight champion, at 38, and he could break that by a further two years on Saturday.

Here's everything you need to know about Donaire vs. Santiago.
When is Donaire vs. Santiago? Date, start time

    Date: Saturday, July 15
    Start time:  2.30 a.m. BST / 9.30 p.m. ET
    Main event ringwalks (approx):  4 a.m. BST / 11 p.m. ET

Source: https://www.dazn.com/en-US/news/boxing/nonito-donaire-vs-alexandro-santiago-date-start-time-tv-channel-and-live-stream/g7k6kfrmaroq1g9z4cn0a159q

[bisdak40]

^^ Yes, saw this posts, not sure if the words comes directly from Donaire's mouth, but in any case, yes, I think I would say that 90% of the current 118 lbs, Donaire can beat them, not name Naoya Inoue.

So just a couple more days, between the two, and hopefully we will see some hype in the media as well as this is very important fight because WBC will have a new bantamweight champion in the process.

Yeah, I am pretty sure Donaire is aware of the current situation. The power of Donaire is just too much in this division. Since becoming a champion after that huge KO upset over Vic Darchinyan, there were only 2 fighters in this division and below that were able to survive Donaire's power punches, long-time champion Omar Narvaez who went turtle defense throughout the whole fight and Rafael Concepcion who came in 2 division overweight.

A few more days left and we will see if Donaire who's turning 41 this year will be able to break his own previous record as the oldest champion in this division's history. Santiago is not a KO artist so he is expected to move and box. Santiago only suffered a single knockdown in his whole career once which means his chin is tough and it will be put to another huge test this weekend. And we will also see if Donaire won't tire out in the late rounds if he cannot catch Santiago in the first 7 rounds.

That's good trivia mate, his losses after that Rigo fight were above the bantamweight division (except Inoue fight) but in this division, Donaire is just too much for his opponent so there is a great possibility that he would break his own record as the oldest to become a world champion in this division.

One thing that I found interesting is that as the fight day approaches, the odds for Donaire to win also increase, it was at @1.58 the other day and now it is pegged at 1.62, maybe it would reach @1.70 on fight day.

[Kelvinid]

One thing that I found interesting is that as the fight day approaches, the odds for Donaire to win also increase, it was at @1.58 the other day and now it is pegged at 1.62, maybe it would reach @1.70 on fight day.

It's not a positive sign if the odds are increasing because it indicates that bettors are also placing money on the other side. However, considering Donaire's skill and dominance in this division (except against Inoue), I wouldn't overcomplicate things and would simply take the moneyline odds.

Are the other betting lines already available?

[btc_angela]

^^ Yes, saw this posts, not sure if the words comes directly from Donaire's mouth, but in any case, yes, I think I would say that 90% of the current 118 lbs, Donaire can beat them, not name Naoya Inoue.

So just a couple more days, between the two, and hopefully we will see some hype in the media as well as this is very important fight because WBC will have a new bantamweight champion in the process.

Yeah, I am pretty sure Donaire is aware of the current situation. The power of Donaire is just too much in this division. Since becoming a champion after that huge KO upset over Vic Darchinyan, there were only 2 fighters in this division and below that were able to survive Donaire's power punches, long-time champion Omar Narvaez who went turtle defense throughout the whole fight and Rafael Concepcion who came in 2 division overweight.

A few more days left and we will see if Donaire who's turning 41 this year will be able to break his own previous record as the oldest champion in this division's history. Santiago is not a KO artist so he is expected to move and box. Santiago only suffered a single knockdown in his whole career once which means his chin is tough and it will be put to another huge test this weekend. And we will also see if Donaire won't tire out in the late rounds if he cannot catch Santiago in the first 7 rounds.

That's good trivia mate, his losses after that Rigo fight were above the bantamweight division (except Inoue fight) but in this division, Donaire is just too much for his opponent so there is a great possibility that he would break his own record as the oldest to become a world champion in this division.

One thing that I found interesting is that as the fight day approaches, the odds for Donaire to win also increase, it was at @1.58 the other day and now it is pegged at 1.62, maybe it would reach @1.70 on fight day.

So someone is throwing money on the Santiago? maybe there are really boxing fans who think that there are value on Santiago or they think that Donaire is too old right now to win and become another world champion.

Not surprise, but we will have to see what Santiago can bring in the table. Donaire is already battle tested, we have seen his up and down as a bantamweight, and will be coming from a huge knockout lost to Inoue. But still though, he is already a legend like Manny Pacquiao and so he has a good chance to break or established a new record as the oldest bantamweight in history.