[Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023

[harizen]

Yeah it is on a bigger stage but sadly they are not the main event.

Regardless, even not a main event, what matter is, it's a title fight.

Not that really a big deal that from an expected main event, it will now be part of the undercard of the mega bout between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. Promoters did a great job here to boost the PPV sales after the changes happened on the original undercard list.

Nonito has a great chance to be included again in history if he will win against Santiago.

If he wins against Alejandro Santiago, Nonito Donaire Jr. will top his previous achievement of being the oldest bantamweight champion. He got it at the age of 38 when he defeated Nordine Oubaali in a 4th Round KO win and become the WBC Bantamweight World Champion, his third time being a bantamweight title. Now at age 40 (turning 41 this year in November) another milestone in his career will be achieved; the oldest bantamweight champion at the age of 40 and a 4th-time bantamweight title holder.

Almost the entire advantages are on Donaire. It's now up to Santiago to defy all the odds and take advantage of his young age.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Yeah it is on a bigger stage but sadly they are not the main event.

Regardless, even not a main event, what matter is, it's a title fight.

Not that really a big deal that from an expected main event, it will now be part of the undercard of the mega bout between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. Promoters did a great job here to boost the PPV sales after the changes happened on the original undercard list.

Nonito has a great chance to be included again in history if he will win against Santiago.

If he wins against Alejandro Santiago, Nonito Donaire Jr. will top his previous achievement of being the oldest bantamweight champion. He got it at the age of 38 when he defeated Nordine Oubaali in a 4th Round KO win and become the WBC Bantamweight World Champion, his third time being a bantamweight title. Now at age 40 (turning 41 this year in November) another milestone in his career will be achieved; the oldest bantamweight champion at the age of 40 and a 4th-time bantamweight title holder.

Almost the entire advantages are on Donaire. It's now up to Santiago to defy all the odds and take advantage of his young age.

Yeah, still though, I think this is the biggest exposure for both of them, although Donaire has headline main events many times, not sure about Santiago though. But if they are included in the potential fight of the year and biggest, then it's good enough for them.

Another records is on the way, not sure though if it could be surpassed already, and only the great Donaire can topple his own record when he beat Nordine back then. Actually it's not even a match as Donaire dominated Ouballi that time.

[Pamadar]

But before all of that, let's see what Donaire can offer to us once he steps foot in the ring again. It will be a good fight knowing how Donaire wanted a full packed confrontation type of fight, unless if Santiago decides to be the opposite. That will be huge disappointment for sure.

Regarding about that, we all know that Donaire will try to take advantage the opportunity while he got the upper hand in this fight and will try to engage in a toe-to-toe fight in the early rounds, but I don't think that Santiago is inclined to do the same thing and will keep up with the phase to cath up with Donaire. I think he will start slow and might be in a defensive mode for a good 5 rounds until he can notice that Donaire is losing his speed.

It may work, if Santiago will start slow and observe what style Donaire will use against him.

He might have that chance of beating Donaire if he will not engage in a toe-tot-toe confrontation, though it may boring the
fans if we will see more on defense with a lesser offense.

But, if that's the way how to win against the former champ, why not try your luck and use it? We will see what style
Santiago will use once the fight already takes place.

[Kemarit]

But before all of that, let's see what Donaire can offer to us once he steps foot in the ring again. It will be a good fight knowing how Donaire wanted a full packed confrontation type of fight, unless if Santiago decides to be the opposite. That will be huge disappointment for sure.

Regarding about that, we all know that Donaire will try to take advantage the opportunity while he got the upper hand in this fight and will try to engage in a toe-to-toe fight in the early rounds, but I don't think that Santiago is inclined to do the same thing and will keep up with the phase to cath up with Donaire. I think he will start slow and might be in a defensive mode for a good 5 rounds until he can notice that Donaire is losing his speed.

It may work, if Santiago will start slow and observe what style Donaire will use against him.

Not sure if that strategy will be effective against Donaire, remember that Donaire has the experience here. So if there is someone that will adapt it will be Donaire.

He might have that chance of beating Donaire if he will not engage in a toe-tot-toe confrontation, though it may boring the
fans if we will see more on defense with a lesser offense.

But, if that's the way how to win against the former champ, why not try your luck and use it? We will see what style
Santiago will use once the fight already takes place.

That is the only chance that he got here, try to engage Donaire early just like what Inoue did to Donaire. Although Santiago didn't possesses the power, but he could land several punches that might damage Donaire.

But still early to conclude what style he should used here because I have said, Donaire has the advantage here.

[inthelongrun]

Yeah it is on a bigger stage but sadly they are not the main event.

Regardless, even not a main event, what matter is, it's a title fight.

Not that really a big deal that from an expected main event, it will now be part of the undercard of the mega bout between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. Promoters did a great job here to boost the PPV sales after the changes happened on the original undercard list.

The main event is not just a unification bought but for the undisputed belts so it really deserves as the main event. And there is a possibility that Bud might take the pound-for-pound king status if he dominates and wins the fight.

But I would've preferred this fight as the main undercard since this is a title fight. It is still Pitbull Cruz against Giovanni Cabrera as the main supporting event though it is also a WBA and WBC eliminator. And the fact that Donaire is not a PBC fighter, it is not surprising that they prefer Pitbull to have better exposure leading into the main event.

I doubt Donaire will get a share of the PPV revenue but obviously, he gets a higher purse here rather than the earlier schedule which is why both he and Santiago have no problem moving their scheduled fight.

Looking forward for some historic victories by Donaire and Crawford. Oldest current champion, the oldest bantamweight champion ever for Donaire, and the first-ever 2-division undisputed champion in the 4-belt era for Crawford.

[TimeTeller]

Yeah it is on a bigger stage but sadly they are not the main event.

Regardless, even not a main event, what matter is, it's a title fight.

Not that really a big deal that from an expected main event, it will now be part of the undercard of the mega bout between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. Promoters did a great job here to boost the PPV sales after the changes happened on the original undercard list.

The main event is not just a unification bought but for the undisputed belts so it really deserves as the main event. And there is a possibility that Bud might take the pound-for-pound king status if he dominates and wins the fight.

But I would've preferred this fight as the main undercard since this is a title fight. It is still Pitbull Cruz against Giovanni Cabrera as the main supporting event though it is also a WBA and WBC eliminator. And the fact that Donaire is not a PBC fighter, it is not surprising that they prefer Pitbull to have better exposure leading into the main event.

I doubt Donaire will get a share of the PPV revenue but obviously, he gets a higher purse here rather than the earlier schedule which is why both he and Santiago have no problem moving their scheduled fight.

Looking forward for some historic victories by Donaire and Crawford. Oldest current champion, the oldest bantamweight champion ever for Donaire, and the first-ever 2-division undisputed champion in the 4-belt era for Crawford.

Sometimes, the promoters are after for the purse that they can get from the fight.
So yes, definitely, both camps are fine getting a new schedule and being undercard of the one of the most anticipated fights this year.
This will be a good selling point for Donaire's camp if he will win on this fight, and won't think of retiring from this sports if they will really get the belt.
Aside from the good publicity that they can get from this new sched, it may be a deciding factor for Donaire where to go next for his career.

[Botnake]

Yeah it is on a bigger stage but sadly they are not the main event.

Regardless, even not a main event, what matter is, it's a title fight.

Not that really a big deal that from an expected main event, it will now be part of the undercard of the mega bout between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. Promoters did a great job here to boost the PPV sales after the changes happened on the original undercard list.

The main event is not just a unification bought but for the undisputed belts so it really deserves as the main event.

But I would've preferred this fight as the main undercard since this is a title fight. It is still Pitbull Cruz against Giovanni Cabrera as the main supporting event though it is also a WBA and WBC eliminator. And the fact that Donaire is not a PBC fighter, it is not surprising that they prefer Pitbull to have better exposure leading into the main event.

I doubt Donaire will get a share of the PPV revenue but obviously, he gets a higher purse here rather than the earlier schedule which is why both he and Santiago have no problem moving their scheduled fight.

Looking forward for some historic victories by Donaire and Crawford. Oldest current champion, the oldest bantamweight champion ever for Donaire, and the first-ever 2-division undisputed champion in the 4-belt era for Crawford.

We can say that all of this arrangements are well thought by the organizers and in their eyes, it is already the best cards they could give to the people who will watch the fight. And since that this fight is controlled by PBC and their network, it is understandable why they chose Pitbull's fight to be in the co-main event instead of Donaire vs Santiago.

And there is a possibility that Bud might take the pound-for-pound king status if he dominates and wins the fight.

There is also a big possibility that Terence Crawford will be the first boxer ever to attain a two undisputed titles in two separate divisions.

[bisdak40]

It may work, if Santiago will start slow and observe what style Donaire will use against him.

He might have that chance of beating Donaire if he will not engage in a toe-tot-toe confrontation, though it may boring the
fans if we will see more on defense with a lesser offense.

But, if that's the way how to win against the former champ, why not try your luck and use it? We will see what style
Santiago will use once the fight already takes place.

Santiago could emulate what Rido has done to Donaire when he beat the former, run, run and more running lol.

Rigo is a former Olympian (if my memory serves me right) and his speed is admirable so he could hit and run but i doubt Santiago could do the same, though i have not seen a fight of him but i speculate that he is not that fast.

Donaire is a counter-puncher and yeah, this fight will turn into a snore-feast if Santiago won't come out of his shell but i don't think he would do that as Mexicans are known to be warriors in the ring, they don't run in a fight so expect this fight to be explosive as usual for Donaire and hope the old guy's hand will be raised after the fight.

[Kelvinid]

It may work, if Santiago will start slow and observe what style Donaire will use against him.

He might have that chance of beating Donaire if he will not engage in a toe-tot-toe confrontation, though it may boring the
fans if we will see more on defense with a lesser offense.

But, if that's the way how to win against the former champ, why not try your luck and use it? We will see what style
Santiago will use once the fight already takes place.

Santiago could emulate what Rido has done to Donaire when he beat the former, run, run and more running lol.

Rigo is a former Olympian (if my memory serves me right) and his speed is admirable so he could hit and run but i doubt Santiago could do the same, though i have not seen a fight of him but i speculate that he is not that fast.

Donaire is a counter-puncher and yeah, this fight will turn into a snore-feast if Santiago won't come out of his shell but i don't think he would do that as Mexicans are known to be warriors in the ring, they don't run in a fight so expect this fight to be explosive as usual for Donaire and hope the old guy's hand will be raised after the fight.

Unfortunately, Santiago's style differs from Rigo's. He is an aggressive fighter, so I believe it will be hard for him to adapt to a new style and that will give Donaire a chance to execute his game plan effectively. Santiago is a warrior, unlike Rigo, and I believe he has the confidence to potentially knock out Donaire, so he will surely attack.

[carlisle1]

Yeah it is on a bigger stage but sadly they are not the main event.

Regardless, even not a main event, what matter is, it's a title fight.

Not that really a big deal that from an expected main event, it will now be part of the undercard of the mega bout between Terence Crawford and Errol Spence Jr. Promoters did a great job here to boost the PPV sales after the changes happened on the original undercard list.

The main event is not just a unification bought but for the undisputed belts so it really deserves as the main event. And there is a possibility that Bud might take the pound-for-pound king status if he dominates and wins the fight.

But I would've preferred this fight as the main undercard since this is a title fight. It is still Pitbull Cruz against Giovanni Cabrera as the main supporting event though it is also a WBA and WBC eliminator. And the fact that Donaire is not a PBC fighter, it is not surprising that they prefer Pitbull to have better exposure leading into the main event.

I doubt Donaire will get a share of the PPV revenue but obviously, he gets a higher purse here rather than the earlier schedule which is why both he and Santiago have no problem moving their scheduled fight.

Looking forward for some historic victories by Donaire and Crawford. Oldest current champion, the oldest bantamweight champion ever for Donaire, and the first-ever 2-division undisputed champion in the 4-belt era for Crawford.

Sometimes, the promoters are after for the purse that they can get from the fight.
So yes, definitely, both camps are fine getting a new schedule and being undercard of the one of the most anticipated fights this year.
This will be a good selling point for Donaire's camp if he will win on this fight, and won't think of retiring from this sports if they will really get the belt.
Aside from the good publicity that they can get from this new sched, it may be a deciding factor for Donaire where to go next for his career.

For sure, all parties are okay in switching the schedule as they will be placed on a much wider slot, I mean even you are playing in
an undercard fight, but the main event is what the whole world is anticipated.

The publicities and the chance of gaining more viewers and fans that will solidize your career, I like to see both fighters being inspired
to come up with a toe-to-toe confrontations,.

Giving those live viewers a reason to watch them and have a closer look at the way they've fought. It's an opportunity for both Santiago
and Donaire to hype up their names, more chance to earn money if they earn the attention of more crowd/viewers.

[Natalim]

Giving those live viewers a reason to watch them and have a closer look at the way they've fought. It's an opportunity for both Santiago
and Donaire to hype up their names, more chance to earn money if they earn the attention of more crowd/viewers.

No doubt, Donaire and Santiago would earn a larger sum of money by being the undercard fight for Spence vs Crawford. In terms of hype, Donaire is already well-known, so he only needs a bit more exposure. It's actually Santiago who will be presented with a great opportunity because if he wins this fight, promoting his next fight would not be difficult.

The changes made to the fight should be appreciated as the promoters simply aim to make it a more successful event.

[Pamadar]

It may work, if Santiago will start slow and observe what style Donaire will use against him.

He might have that chance of beating Donaire if he will not engage in a toe-tot-toe confrontation, though it may boring the
fans if we will see more on defense with a lesser offense.

But, if that's the way how to win against the former champ, why not try your luck and use it? We will see what style
Santiago will use once the fight already takes place.

Santiago could emulate what Rido has done to Donaire when he beat the former, run, run and more running lol.

Rigo is a former Olympian (if my memory serves me right) and his speed is admirable so he could hit and run but i doubt Santiago could do the same, though i have not seen a fight of him but i speculate that he is not that fast.

Donaire is a counter-puncher and yeah, this fight will turn into a snore-feast if Santiago won't come out of his shell but i don't think he would do that as Mexicans are known to be warriors in the ring, they don't run in a fight so expect this fight to be explosive as usual for Donaire and hope the old guy's hand will be raised after the fight.

Unfortunately, Santiago's style differs from Rigo's. He is an aggressive fighter, so I believe it will be hard for him to adapt to a new style and that will give Donaire a chance to execute his game plan effectively. Santiago is a warrior, unlike Rigo, and I believe he has the confidence to potentially knock out Donaire, so he will surely attack.

Taking a chance to aggressively push his way might be good if he converted his attacks.

For sure, it will be tough for both fighters as they'll going to fight each other without really knowledge of what to expect
from one another, surprise attacks or slow start, then attack aggressively when you already weight the opponents' capabilities.
More on how they review old fights and assess if what potential strategy will be executed during the fight.

[cryptomaniac_xxx]

Giving those live viewers a reason to watch them and have a closer look at the way they've fought. It's an opportunity for both Santiago
and Donaire to hype up their names, more chance to earn money if they earn the attention of more crowd/viewers.

No doubt, Donaire and Santiago would earn a larger sum of money by being the undercard fight for Spence vs Crawford. In terms of hype, Donaire is already well-known, so he only needs a bit more exposure. It's actually Santiago who will be presented with a great opportunity because if he wins this fight, promoting his next fight would not be difficult.

The changes made to the fight should be appreciated as the promoters simply aim to make it a more successful event.

I think even before them moving on the undercard, maybe Donaire has the lion share already as he is the number 1 contender for the belt. But we don't know if the split has been bumped since they are going to move to the Spence and Crawford.

If yes, then good for them, they deserved it specially for Santiago as this could be his first time to be in a huge undercard fight.

Definitely, win or lose, going to be a big exposure. And perhaps the winner here could be the next main event of their careers.

[bisdak40]

Giving those live viewers a reason to watch them and have a closer look at the way they've fought. It's an opportunity for both Santiago
and Donaire to hype up their names, more chance to earn money if they earn the attention of more crowd/viewers.

No doubt, Donaire and Santiago would earn a larger sum of money by being the undercard fight for Spence vs Crawford. In terms of hype, Donaire is already well-known, so he only needs a bit more exposure. It's actually Santiago who will be presented with a great opportunity because if he wins this fight, promoting his next fight would not be difficult.

The changes made to the fight should be appreciated as the promoters simply aim to make it a more successful event.

Agree, Santiago is new to this kind of stage as he has not fought in Vegas yet if I'm correct so another disadvantage for him. Money-wise, I don't know if the promoters will compensate for the postponement of this fight so it will be put in the undercard of Spence vs Crawford fight but definitely this is a big plus/attraction to the main event so i think money will flow to the purse of Donaire and Santiago lol.

[Kemarit]

Giving those live viewers a reason to watch them and have a closer look at the way they've fought. It's an opportunity for both Santiago
and Donaire to hype up their names, more chance to earn money if they earn the attention of more crowd/viewers.

No doubt, Donaire and Santiago would earn a larger sum of money by being the undercard fight for Spence vs Crawford. In terms of hype, Donaire is already well-known, so he only needs a bit more exposure. It's actually Santiago who will be presented with a great opportunity because if he wins this fight, promoting his next fight would not be difficult.

The changes made to the fight should be appreciated as the promoters simply aim to make it a more successful event.

Agree, Santiago is new to this kind of stage as he has not fought in Vegas yet if I'm correct so another disadvantage for him. Money-wise, I don't know if the promoters will compensate for the postponement of this fight so it will be put in the undercard of Spence vs Crawford fight but definitely this is a big plus/attraction to the main event so i think money will flow to the purse of Donaire and Santiago lol.

If Santiago is not used to it then this will be a big disadvantage for him. For Donaire he is used to this big crowds so maybe this is just a normal flow for him. The best thing is to really perform at peak and then crown himself as the oldest bantamweight champion.

As for the purse, yeah, Donaire is already an attraction so he has every right to take the big money here.

The burden is on Santiago to proved that he has what it takes to fight the legend in Nonito Donaire.

[carlisle1]

Giving those live viewers a reason to watch them and have a closer look at the way they've fought. It's an opportunity for both Santiago
and Donaire to hype up their names, more chance to earn money if they earn the attention of more crowd/viewers.

No doubt, Donaire and Santiago would earn a larger sum of money by being the undercard fight for Spence vs Crawford. In terms of hype, Donaire is already well-known, so he only needs a bit more exposure. It's actually Santiago who will be presented with a great opportunity because if he wins this fight, promoting his next fight would not be difficult.

The changes made to the fight should be appreciated as the promoters simply aim to make it a more successful event.

Agree, Santiago is new to this kind of stage as he has not fought in Vegas yet if I'm correct so another disadvantage for him. Money-wise, I don't know if the promoters will compensate for the postponement of this fight so it will be put in the undercard of Spence vs Crawford fight but definitely this is a big plus/attraction to the main event so i think money will flow to the purse of Donaire and Santiago lol.

And we all know that it's a business aside from the front of being a sport. They are more on the money and how they will get that huge
compensations out of the fight that they will promote.

Both Santiago and Donaire will earn not just the possible crowd, but the main deal is the money that will going to flow.

It's the way how they will use this opportunity individually to hype up their careers, more viewers more chance of good upcoming fights.

[Jating]

Giving those live viewers a reason to watch them and have a closer look at the way they've fought. It's an opportunity for both Santiago
and Donaire to hype up their names, more chance to earn money if they earn the attention of more crowd/viewers.

No doubt, Donaire and Santiago would earn a larger sum of money by being the undercard fight for Spence vs Crawford. In terms of hype, Donaire is already well-known, so he only needs a bit more exposure. It's actually Santiago who will be presented with a great opportunity because if he wins this fight, promoting his next fight would not be difficult.

The changes made to the fight should be appreciated as the promoters simply aim to make it a more successful event.

Agree, Santiago is new to this kind of stage as he has not fought in Vegas yet if I'm correct so another disadvantage for him. Money-wise, I don't know if the promoters will compensate for the postponement of this fight so it will be put in the undercard of Spence vs Crawford fight but definitely this is a big plus/attraction to the main event so i think money will flow to the purse of Donaire and Santiago lol.

As far as I know, promoters are not going to be compensated here, on the contrary as you have said, this could be more advantageous to them as they will be the prior fight before the main event.

So obviously the promoters are going to jump on this opportunity and for sure Donaire and Santiago knows that it will be a big boost for them to be in the limelight of this big fight. And their names will be remember in history as the undercard in this unification fight between two great fighters.

[Kelvinid]

Both Santiago and Donaire will earn not just the possible crowd, but the main deal is the money that will going to flow.

It's the way how they will use this opportunity individually to hype up their careers, more viewers more chance of good upcoming fights.

That's business; they will not make this fight happen without money. It's not a real competition where they are representing their country. Nowadays, it's just secondary, as money is the main inspiration for these boxers who want to be at the top.

[inthelongrun]

Both Santiago and Donaire will earn not just the possible crowd, but the main deal is the money that will going to flow.

It's the way how they will use this opportunity individually to hype up their careers, more viewers more chance of good upcoming fights.

That's business; they will not make this fight happen without money. It's not a real competition where they are representing their country. Nowadays, it's just secondary, as money is the main inspiration for these boxers who want to be at the top.

Yeah, nowadays money talks a lot. And if there are fighters that are more focused on achievements they are still powerless because their promoters and networks are the ones investing and putting money on them. Even managers, coaches, and other staff will always convince a fighter to go for the money route as their salaries depend on how much the fighter is receiving.

Anyways, looks like we are going to watch Inoue vs Fulton first before Donaire's historic attempt to become the oldest bantamweight champion in history. And there's also Crawford's historic attempt to become the first-ever 2-division undisputed champion in this 4-belt era, in the main event.

[Yamifoud]

I'm really tempted to bet on Inoue to win by KO; it's 1.98 in my sportsbook now. What do you guys think about these odds? Are you going in, or will you play it safe and just bet on Inoue to win the game regardless of how?

Inoue's first-round KO win is at x40. Is it worth the risk?