[Boxing] Nonito Donaire vs Alejandro Santiago for WBC bantamweight (july15,2023

[Lanatsa]

Well maybe here, it will be a different strategy for him, maybe he will test Santiago and once he read him, he might go for a win or become aggressive in the middle rounds.

Donaire I'm sure won't show any different strategy on this fight. He will just fight like he faced other boxers.

Santiago should not be a big threat for Donaire as he alredy faced the most dangerous boxer in the bantamweight which is Naoya Inoue. Fighting Santiago, he should just feel that his opponent is nothing compare to Naoya Inoue.

Have the same feeling on what you do have said but of course he would really remain out his body shape and condition to be prepared for this fight.He wont really be still that confidently facing up this one.

You wouldn't know on what comes and this would end up on a shock into your career.Yes, we might see this upcoming fight for it not to be that challenging for Donaire but we shouldnt belittle.

This fight is for the WBC bantamweight title and Santiago wont really be just taking it easy on not minding about on whose gonna fight on.

[Fundamentals Of]

Well maybe here, it will be a different strategy for him, maybe he will test Santiago and once he read him, he might go for a win or become aggressive in the middle rounds.

Donaire I'm sure won't show any different strategy on this fight. He will just fight like he faced other boxers.

Santiago should not be a big threat for Donaire as he alredy faced the most dangerous boxer in the bantamweight which is Naoya Inoue. Fighting Santiago, he should just feel that his opponent is nothing compare to Naoya Inoue.

Have the same feeling on what you do have said but of course he would really remain out his body shape and condition to be prepared for this fight.He wont really be still that confidently facing up this one.

You wouldn't know on what comes and this would end up on a shock into your career.Yes, we might see this upcoming fight for it not to be that challenging for Donaire but we shouldnt belittle.

This fight is for the WBC bantamweight title and Santiago wont really be just taking it easy on not minding about on whose gonna fight on.

Donaire should remain 100% of course in facing Santiago, but we know for a fact that Santiago is an easier opponent. Of course his youth is a big advantage because Donaire is already old in boxing at 40 years old, but he is not that special. He is not a rising star even. So Donaire can handle him pretty well. In fact he can even hand this young fighter his very first knock out loss.

I also want Santiago to be competitive and give Donaire a hard time. He has been winning against nobodies in his past fights. This is his time to prove something against somebody as popular as Donaire.

[Oasisman]

Well maybe here, it will be a different strategy for him, maybe he will test Santiago and once he read him, he might go for a win or become aggressive in the middle rounds.

Donaire I'm sure won't show any different strategy on this fight. He will just fight like he faced other boxers.

Santiago should not be a big threat for Donaire as he alredy faced the most dangerous boxer in the bantamweight which is Naoya Inoue. Fighting Santiago, he should just feel that his opponent is nothing compare to Naoya Inoue.

This actually get me less interested in this fight, not really underestimating Donaire's opponent, though it sounds like a bit that way lol. But, I was really expecting someone who's obviously better than Santiago as an opponent for Donaire.
The fact that Donaire have already fought the most elite in that weight division, this will obviously put Santiago being a nobody against Donaire. Though we never know the outcome, but a huge chance for Donaire though. 

[Silberman]

Well, to know more about that, let's see if Donaire's age will be a stumbling block on his way to greatness again. As far as we know, Donaire's KO punch is still lethal as long as he will get an opening to land it cleanly but in-terms of speed, I think he's not that kind of Flash that we used to know anymore and maybe that's has something to do with his age. You know, nobody can escape father time.

That's what he needs - find an opponent and go for a KO shot. He is still a KO artist, but he should aim to end his opponent early, so he won't struggle in the later rounds. The problem with Donaire is that he gets frustrated if he cannot finish his opponent early and gets careless in the end. So, a proper game plan is very important for him, as he is not getting any younger.

Winning the fight on the first rounds will be the very best case scenario for Donaire, but at the same time he cannot expect that every single fight goes according to this script, and he needs to find another way to win, the problem is that with his age this is becoming more problematic as his endurance is going down with each year that passes, so it is possible he may try even harder to win the fight against Santiago early and if he fails then getting a loss could be a real possibility.

[Japinat]

Well, to know more about that, let's see if Donaire's age will be a stumbling block on his way to greatness again. As far as we know, Donaire's KO punch is still lethal as long as he will get an opening to land it cleanly but in-terms of speed, I think he's not that kind of Flash that we used to know anymore and maybe that's has something to do with his age. You know, nobody can escape father time.

That's what he needs - find an opponent and go for a KO shot. He is still a KO artist, but he should aim to end his opponent early, so he won't struggle in the later rounds. The problem with Donaire is that he gets frustrated if he cannot finish his opponent early and gets careless in the end. So, a proper game plan is very important for him, as he is not getting any younger.

Yes and hence why we got this fight, their camp managed to get Santiago's approval to fight him for this vacant title and the advantage is on their side because they got the option to pick their opponent just to make the championship fight happen. Donaire surely got more chances here compared to the 1st mandatory fight where Jason Moloney cancelled and pursued another belt where he wouldn't have to face Nonito Donaire.

[BitcoinPanther]

Well, to know more about that, let's see if Donaire's age will be a stumbling block on his way to greatness again. As far as we know, Donaire's KO punch is still lethal as long as he will get an opening to land it cleanly but in-terms of speed, I think he's not that kind of Flash that we used to know anymore and maybe that's has something to do with his age. You know, nobody can escape father time.

That's what he needs - find an opponent and go for a KO shot. He is still a KO artist, but he should aim to end his opponent early, so he won't struggle in the later rounds. The problem with Donaire is that he gets frustrated if he cannot finish his opponent early and gets careless in the end. So, a proper game plan is very important for him, as he is not getting any younger.

Good observation about the flaw of Donaire.  If Donaire got focused on 1 hit KO, or KO-ing his opponent, Donaire tends to forget all means of strategy and just go for Knock out, even delivering himself for a free hit just like what happened when he fought against Guillermo Rigondeaux and "The Axe Man" Nicholas Walters.

He somehow to manage to minimize this kind of trait and hopefully he will eliminate this flaw on his next fight to have a least a higher chance of winning.

[Lanatsa]

Well maybe here, it will be a different strategy for him, maybe he will test Santiago and once he read him, he might go for a win or become aggressive in the middle rounds.

Donaire I'm sure won't show any different strategy on this fight. He will just fight like he faced other boxers.

Santiago should not be a big threat for Donaire as he alredy faced the most dangerous boxer in the bantamweight which is Naoya Inoue. Fighting Santiago, he should just feel that his opponent is nothing compare to Naoya Inoue.

Have the same feeling on what you do have said but of course he would really remain out his body shape and condition to be prepared for this fight.He wont really be still that confidently facing up this one.

You wouldn't know on what comes and this would end up on a shock into your career.Yes, we might see this upcoming fight for it not to be that challenging for Donaire but we shouldnt belittle.

This fight is for the WBC bantamweight title and Santiago wont really be just taking it easy on not minding about on whose gonna fight on.

Donaire should remain 100% of course in facing Santiago, but we know for a fact that Santiago is an easier opponent. Of course his youth is a big advantage because Donaire is already old in boxing at 40 years old, but he is not that special. He is not a rising star even. So Donaire can handle him pretty well. In fact he can even hand this young fighter his very first knock out loss.

I also want Santiago to be competitive and give Donaire a hard time. He has been winning against nobodies in his past fights. This is his time to prove something against somebody as popular as Donaire.

Popular and experienced one on which you cant just take it lightly if you were Santiago.For sure they do already know on what they are facing into but since this is for the fight of those vacanted title then

preparations would really be that something be focused because they do know that this fight wont really be that something simple.As for Donaire, then yes he's old but its not something that
coudl make him not that able to have that good performance and just like on what you are hoping that this one should at least be entertaining to watch. It would be great if there would be
no much clinching and running around. 

[Baofeng]

Well maybe here, it will be a different strategy for him, maybe he will test Santiago and once he read him, he might go for a win or become aggressive in the middle rounds.

Donaire I'm sure won't show any different strategy on this fight. He will just fight like he faced other boxers.

It's kinda different though when he face Inoue Inoue, he said that they have a good strategy and preparation, but during the fight he chooses to brawl against the Monster,

“I love brawling and it’s hard for me to go and change that overnight and that was the biggest mistake that I did and it’s a learning experience.”

https://sports.inquirer.net/465716/donaire-says-wanting-to-brawl-was-biggest-mistake-in-loss-to-inoue

So definitely in every fight he and his team has strategy, that's what I'm saying. It's not he will go there with no plans at all and brawl. He is known to be a counter puncher though, maybe that was the plan to wait for Inoue to come in and make some mistakes.

Santiago should not be a big threat for Donaire as he alredy faced the most dangerous boxer in the bantamweight which is Naoya Inoue. Fighting Santiago, he should just feel that his opponent is nothing compare to Naoya Inoue.

He still need to feel though, the distance, the moves of Santiago, so again, he will read him early. And maybe he will go with some fakes and feints to see his reaction and then throw that patented left hook of his to finished Santiago. He will have to prepared for a full 12 rounds though, maybe Santiago chin is going to hold so at least he has some in his tank if this goes to full distance.

[Mr. Magkaisa]

Well maybe here, it will be a different strategy for him, maybe he will test Santiago and once he read him, he might go for a win or become aggressive in the middle rounds.

Donaire I'm sure won't show any different strategy on this fight. He will just fight like he faced other boxers.

Santiago should not be a big threat for Donaire as he alredy faced the most dangerous boxer in the bantamweight which is Naoya Inoue. Fighting Santiago, he should just feel that his opponent is nothing compare to Naoya Inoue.

Have the same feeling on what you do have said but of course he would really remain out his body shape and condition to be prepared for this fight.He wont really be still that confidently facing up this one.

You wouldn't know on what comes and this would end up on a shock into your career.Yes, we might see this upcoming fight for it not to be that challenging for Donaire but we shouldnt belittle.

This fight is for the WBC bantamweight title and Santiago wont really be just taking it easy on not minding about on whose gonna fight on.

Donaire should remain 100% of course in facing Santiago, but we know for a fact that Santiago is an easier opponent. Of course his youth is a big advantage because Donaire is already old in boxing at 40 years old, but he is not that special. He is not a rising star even. So Donaire can handle him pretty well. In fact he can even hand this young fighter his very first knock out loss.

I also want Santiago to be competitive and give Donaire a hard time. He has been winning against nobodies in his past fights. This is his time to prove something against somebody as popular as Donaire.

    -   Donaire is one of the most popular in the boxing industry, in the many fights he has had, he has lost many times, but even so, he is still popular. It's just a sign that he has a punch that he can be proud of when he's in the middle of the ring. Although, he has age anyway and maybe this is one of his advantages that could be the advantage of a younger person who can fight him in the boxing ring.

But at least, he will be given the opportunity to meet his opponent because of the popularity that Donaire brings whether he wins or loses. I hope our fellow Pinoys win.

[harizen]

But at least, he will be given the opportunity to meet his opponent because of the popularity that Donaire brings whether he wins or loses. I hope our fellow Pinoys win.

Just want to clarify that Nonito Donaire Jr.'s eligibility to fight at the vacant WBC Bantamweight title is not because of his popularity.

Technically, there's a process for that, and not just because of the boxer's fame.

After Naoya Inoue vacates all his belts at the Bantamweight, Donaire Jr. is ranked 2 by the WBC, therefore, gaining the eligibility to fight for the vacant title against the rank 1, which is Jason Moloney during that time. But Moloney backed out on that supposed fight against Donaire and it results in WBC to dropped him from their ranking list making Donaire the current number 1 contender for the title. It should be those boxers below Donaire's rank that is eligible for Moloney's replacement but since those boxers now have their respective fight schedules already, Santiago got the right as another contender for the title.

[goinmerry]

He still need to feel though, the distance, the moves of Santiago, so again, he will read him early. And maybe he will go with some fakes and feints to see his reaction and then throw that patented left hook of his to finished Santiago. He will have to prepared for a full 12 rounds though, maybe Santiago chin is going to hold so at least he has some in his tank if this goes to full distance.

As usual, Donaire will keep his play safe first in early rounds calculating his opponent's move.

Since entering the veteran age, Donaire watched how his opponent moves first before making his own move.

Remember when Donaire defeats the young and prime Gaballo? He's being careful with his moves until founding a hole that connects his body shot that makes Gaballo suffers heavy pain and never able to get up.

[gunhell16]

He still need to feel though, the distance, the moves of Santiago, so again, he will read him early. And maybe he will go with some fakes and feints to see his reaction and then throw that patented left hook of his to finished Santiago. He will have to prepared for a full 12 rounds though, maybe Santiago chin is going to hold so at least he has some in his tank if this goes to full distance.

As usual, Donaire will keep his play safe first in early rounds calculating his opponent's move.

Since entering the veteran age, Donaire watched how his opponent moves first before making his own move.

Remember when Donaire defeats the young and prime Gaballo? He's being careful with his moves until founding a hole that connects his body shot that makes Gaballo suffers heavy pain and never able to get up.

That's right, I watched that too because Donaire is like Pacquiao, his left fist punched hard and really hit his opponent and if he was crushed, it would be hard for his opponents to get up.

So I think that even with his age, his opponent should not be complacent even if it is said that he is younger than Donaire because when it comes to experience, Donaire is more for sure. He had received more blows than someone younger than him.

[Ziskinberg]

That's right, I watched that too because Donaire is like Pacquiao, his left fist punched hard and really hit his opponent and if he was crushed, it would be hard for his opponents to get up.

So I think that even with his age, his opponent should not be complacent even if it is said that he is younger than Donaire because when it comes to experience, Donaire is more for sure. He had received more blows than someone younger than him.

But Donaire is not as quick as Pacman. He may have the power of Pacman, but I don't think he has Pacman's quickness and stamina. What Donaire has is timing. He is good at timing his punches, which is why most of the opponents he has beaten were knocked out due to his great counterpunching ability.

[Sanitough]

That's right, I watched that too because Donaire is like Pacquiao, his left fist punched hard and really hit his opponent and if he was crushed, it would be hard for his opponents to get up.

So I think that even with his age, his opponent should not be complacent even if it is said that he is younger than Donaire because when it comes to experience, Donaire is more for sure. He had received more blows than someone younger than him.

But Donaire is not as quick as Pacman. He may have the power of Pacman, but I don't think he has Pacman's quickness and stamina. What Donaire has is timing. He is good at timing his punches, which is why most of the opponents he has beaten were knocked out due to his great counterpunching ability.

That's true, you cannot compare Donaire to Pacman as Pacman is too special. He lost to Ugas, but after that, he could still fight, but he chose to declare his retirement because he was busy with politics. As for Donaire, he does not have any involvement in politics, so he is focused on his boxing career. We just have to wait for the outcome of this fight and maybe conclude that Donaire is old if he loses. But until that happens, let's expect the same Donaire who is a dominant boxer.

[Yaunfitda]

That's right, I watched that too because Donaire is like Pacquiao, his left fist punched hard and really hit his opponent and if he was crushed, it would be hard for his opponents to get up.

So I think that even with his age, his opponent should not be complacent even if it is said that he is younger than Donaire because when it comes to experience, Donaire is more for sure. He had received more blows than someone younger than him.

But Donaire is not as quick as Pacman. He may have the power of Pacman, but I don't think he has Pacman's quickness and stamina. What Donaire has is timing. He is good at timing his punches, which is why most of the opponents he has beaten were knocked out due to his great counterpunching ability.

That's true, you cannot compare Donaire to Pacman as Pacman is too special. He lost to Ugas, but after that, he could still fight, but he chose to declare his retirement because he was busy with politics. As for Donaire, he does not have any involvement in politics, so he is focused on his boxing career. We just have to wait for the outcome of this fight and maybe conclude that Donaire is old if he loses. But until that happens, let's expect the same Donaire who is a dominant boxer.

Yeah, too very different animal in the ring, Manny rely on his God given talent of speed and power combine and his ability to go up in weight without any issues whatsoever. As compare to Nonito who rely more on his timing and counter punching and developing one of the best left hook that we have seen in the last decade or so. I still remember him cracking Montiel with perfect left hook and Montiel on the floor was a scary thing to witnessed and after that it was reported that Montiel suffered a hairline crack in his jaw. That's how powerful that left hook of Nonito is during his prime.

[Sanitough]

That's right, I watched that too because Donaire is like Pacquiao, his left fist punched hard and really hit his opponent and if he was crushed, it would be hard for his opponents to get up.

So I think that even with his age, his opponent should not be complacent even if it is said that he is younger than Donaire because when it comes to experience, Donaire is more for sure. He had received more blows than someone younger than him.

But Donaire is not as quick as Pacman. He may have the power of Pacman, but I don't think he has Pacman's quickness and stamina. What Donaire has is timing. He is good at timing his punches, which is why most of the opponents he has beaten were knocked out due to his great counterpunching ability.

That's true, you cannot compare Donaire to Pacman as Pacman is too special. He lost to Ugas, but after that, he could still fight, but he chose to declare his retirement because he was busy with politics. As for Donaire, he does not have any involvement in politics, so he is focused on his boxing career. We just have to wait for the outcome of this fight and maybe conclude that Donaire is old if he loses. But until that happens, let's expect the same Donaire who is a dominant boxer.

Yeah, too very different animal in the ring, Manny rely on his God given talent of speed and power combine and his ability to go up in weight without any issues whatsoever. As compare to Nonito who rely more on his timing and counter punching and developing one of the best left hook that we have seen in the last decade or so. I still remember him cracking Montiel with perfect left hook and Montiel on the floor was a scary thing to witnessed and after that it was reported that Montiel suffered a hairline crack in his jaw. That's how powerful that left hook of Nonito is during his prime.

Actually, he can still knock out his opponent as long as he stays in a weight class that he is comfortable with. The good thing about this division is that he has a height advantage, which makes him very effective against smaller opponents, just like in his past fights, as you mentioned, such as Montiel.

Donaire becoming a champion again is not hard to imagine as he is up against a challenger who is lower than his rank. However, would he stay longer fighting his challengers once he becomes a champion? I think he will not and might retire as a champion if he does not move up to a higher weight division.

[btc_angela]

That's right, I watched that too because Donaire is like Pacquiao, his left fist punched hard and really hit his opponent and if he was crushed, it would be hard for his opponents to get up.

So I think that even with his age, his opponent should not be complacent even if it is said that he is younger than Donaire because when it comes to experience, Donaire is more for sure. He had received more blows than someone younger than him.

But Donaire is not as quick as Pacman. He may have the power of Pacman, but I don't think he has Pacman's quickness and stamina. What Donaire has is timing. He is good at timing his punches, which is why most of the opponents he has beaten were knocked out due to his great counterpunching ability.

That's true, you cannot compare Donaire to Pacman as Pacman is too special. He lost to Ugas, but after that, he could still fight, but he chose to declare his retirement because he was busy with politics. As for Donaire, he does not have any involvement in politics, so he is focused on his boxing career. We just have to wait for the outcome of this fight and maybe conclude that Donaire is old if he loses. But until that happens, let's expect the same Donaire who is a dominant boxer.

Yeah, too very different animal in the ring, Manny rely on his God given talent of speed and power combine and his ability to go up in weight without any issues whatsoever. As compare to Nonito who rely more on his timing and counter punching and developing one of the best left hook that we have seen in the last decade or so. I still remember him cracking Montiel with perfect left hook and Montiel on the floor was a scary thing to witnessed and after that it was reported that Montiel suffered a hairline crack in his jaw. That's how powerful that left hook of Nonito is during his prime.

Actually, he can still knock out his opponent as long as he stays in a weight class that he is comfortable with. The good thing about this division is that he has a height advantage, which makes him very effective against smaller opponents, just like in his past fights, as you mentioned, such as Montiel.

Donaire becoming a champion again is not hard to imagine as he is up against a challenger who is lower than his rank. However, would he stay longer fighting his challengers once he becomes a champion? I think he will not and might retire as a champion if he does not move up to a higher weight division.

Gonna be interesting how the career will Donaire will go win or lose in this fight. As you have said, he still has the advantage to some of this boxers in this division and with his power he can knockout anyone without a blink.

However, if he lose, (given the chance), will he go out in retirement? he is old and time is running out for him to have another crack at the belt. Unless Santiago will give him a rematch or if the new crown champion in other division will want to fight him because his name is good in their resume. So let's see, anyhow, I'm still not seeing any date for this fight.

[LUCKMCFLY]

True, no such thing as an easy fight in boxing especially if you are fighting unpopular boxing because you are not so familiar with his style but the thing with Donaire, he has this experience advantage over Santiago which I think should offset with the Filipino Flash's age disadvantage so this makes the whole fight even.

Donaire is very serious now with his training as he knows that fights on this stage of his career is tough and he is very discipline so this gives him a slight advantage over Santiago.

If we do speak about Age then this is really a huge factor which would affect every athlete considering that we arent getting younger as the years passing by.Donaire do knows that or into those athletes
who are on such condition on which it is really that normal that they would really be trying out to suppress out that kind of risk via doing hard training which would be able to patch up
with that inevitable disadvantage but overall we do know that he does have that speed and good countering which it isnt really still rusted despite of having the age.
I could see that he could still pull off this fight.

Without a doubt Donaire still has a lot of potential within him, however the problem is not only his age but all the damage he has accumulated over his career, this is why we see that at the end of their careers legends end up losing against young boxers which are nowhere near their peak, as they cannot take damage as they were used to and their ability to recover diminishes, so while Donaire should be the favorite, doubts about his age will surely remain with him until the moment he decides to retire.

Well, you are absolutely right about that, a boxer like Donaire who has more experience than other boxers due to his age, is something that he should take advantage of, but in part he also has to train his body much harder, and even if age also passes bill a boxer has to make more and more effort,there are some boxers who lose to young boxers, but evidently it is because they are very confident in what they know, in what they have and in what they can give in the ring, they do not take into consideration that a young boxer has much more resistance.


Things continue to go well for Nonito:

Richard Schaefer Named President of Anthem Sports Group; Will Continue To Promote Donaire, Stanionis

Richard Schaefer is off to his next adventure.

The veteran promoter is prepared to hit the ground running in his new role as president of Anthem Sports Group (ASG), a multi-platform firm based in Toronto that has taken strides to enhance its plans for expansion in the combat sports market. Schaefer joins the company on the heels of his departure from Probellum, which he co-founded and helped launch in the fourth quarter of 2021.

A lot of the ideas behind the now-defunct company are in line with ASG’s mission to acquire and grow relationships in combat sports, particularly in the boxing market.

Therein lies Schaefer’s expertise.

“Richard Schaefer is a major force in the combat sports and boxing arena,” said ASG president and CEO Leonard Asper. “As one of the industry’s most respected executives, he leads with integrity and brings an unprecedented wealth of expertise—cultivated from more than two decades working alongside the sport’s biggest brands and most legendary fighters.

“Anthem is pleased to welcome him to our executive team as the President of Anthem Sports Group, and we look forward to reaching even greater heights as a global sports powerhouse under his guidance.”

Source: https://www.boxingscene.com/richard-schaefer-named-president-anthem-sports-group-continue-promote-donaire-stanionis--173079

[Sanitough]

@LUCKMCFLY, Of course, promoters will go after Donaire as he is a very exciting fighter. This means he can sell the fight and it will result in a profitable event. However, we don't know how long Donaire will continue boxing because he is already 40 years old, which is considered retirement age for most boxers.

This is his comeback fight after a disappointing loss to Inoue.

He should come back strong, and that means he has to win by KO.

[Shamm]

@LUCKMCFLY, Of course, promoters will go after Donaire as he is a very exciting fighter. This means he can sell the fight and it will result in a profitable event. However, we don't know how long Donaire will continue boxing because he is already 40 years old, which is considered retirement age for most boxers.

This is his comeback fight after a disappointing loss to Inoue.

He should come back strong, and that means he has to win by KO.

As I said Lately Donaire is Old enough that a 40-year-old boxer still fights and competes for the young ones. But without a doubt donaire still have a condition body that can compete the young boxers who are in their prime year's. As we can see doniare has a big chance of winning in this matchup but dinaire must be vigilant as we all know that his opponent Alejandro Santiago is good fighter as well. And This is not an easy win for donaire.