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October 04, 2023, 06:17:20 AM
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The Champions League match between Leipzig vs Manchester City will take place at the Red Bull Arena stadium, of course it will be a match that is quite difficult to predict knowing that both clubs are in good condition, but to see the odds, it looks like I will bet on Manchester City which is quite convincing.
Judging from their last match, Manchester City were able to win with a quite fantastic score, namely 7:0 without reply at Manchester City headquarters and of course Manchester City will continue to maintain its performance and prove that Manchester City deserves to win the Champions League title like last season.
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October 04, 2023, 06:19:31 AM
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Actually, three goals from Galatasaray is not totally mistake from Andre Onana, most weakness with left and right defender position how Galatasaray easily scoring goals last night. Despite his fatal mistake with wrong passing and make Casemiro have received second yellow card actually Manchester United defensive most weakness. Personally, I most excited with Manchester United forward Rasmus Højlund success made brave in this match and specially his second goals with brilliant dribbling start from in the middle field, but he was not luck with Manchester United have got bad result.
You're absolutely right. It's not fair to put all the blame on the goalkeeper for every goal conceded, especially when he managed to save a penalty. It's worth noting that MU had a decent performance, but Galatasaray seemed to have aged.
A team from the English Premier League also had unpleasant results because Arsenal lost to Lens even though the away team managed to control the match Lens managed to take advantage of better opportunities.
Arsenal had a stroke of bad luck, while Lens played impressively on their home turf. This defeat isn't too damaging for Arsenal in the Champions League, but it does tire out their squad ahead of the big match against Manchester City this weekend. Mikel Arteta fielded his strongest lineup against Lens.
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October 04, 2023, 06:27:45 AM
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What happened to Onana.

He was such a great goalkeeper the last year with Inter.
I already suspect that something like this will happen again and conceding 3 goals in the match against Galatassaray will continue to add to Onana's bad record with Manchester United. Even though everyone knows that when he was at Inter he performed very well and was even able to take Inter to the final round of the Champions League last season. It seems that Erik ten Hag has now run out of ideas to overcome the performance of his players and after 2 defeats in the group phase, Manchester United is in 4th place in Group A.

It's not yet stopped since manchester united will face copenhagen away. that will be also become a disastrous result for manchester united. Losing three points against copenhagen will put manchester united in a very big disadvantage at this moment.

Manchester united will be so difficult to be qualified for the play off stage. Let's imagine that if united will be losing against copenhagen and the table will be like this

Bayern 9
Galatasaray 4
Copenhagen 4
MU 0

So many fans are booing manchester united. The defenders are so garbage combined with stupid goalkeeper that was always doing blunder.

Onana was not playing in intermilan. It seems like that manchester united will not able to go to the next stage.

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October 04, 2023, 06:32:55 AM
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Manchester United actually didn't have a bad performance. They were very effective offensively throughout the match, but if there is a problem with something, it could be Casemiro's penalty and the red card he received. Everything in Galatasaray's favor became more evident after that red card. Before that, Galatasaray, which scored 2 goals with 2 counter attacks, found strong positions against ManU, which was missing. As a result, they scored the third goal and won the match. ETH may now need to be questioned in Manchester United.
In terms of play, Manchester United were indeed able to perform well and create dangerous attacks, but the carelessness of their own players made everything fall apart. Casemiro's red card gave Galatasaray more freedom, but Onana's poor performance was also the main cause of the defeat. Erik Ten Hag is really quite confused about the problems plaguing his team. I think Ten Hag must have the courage to make decisions for players who cannot make a big contribution to the team. Now Erik Ten Hag's fate is truly on the brink.
Casemiro's red card happened because Onana made a mistake when he passed to him under pressure, while it was clear that Mertens was pressing him and when it became clear that Mertens was likely to score, Casemiro basically had no other option but to foul. So if it wasn't for Onana, Casemiro wouldn't have gotten a red card. It was lucky that Icardi didn't score a penalty right away, but then because of the Manchester City defender's mistake he still managed to bring Galatasaray the victory.

Not very clear In the last round of the Champions League Manchester missed 4 goals, now only 3, so there is progress here).

Otherwise everything is bad, Onana is nervous and he should be removed, the defense understands that the goalkeeper can make mistakes and also plays unreliable, in the attack is a crisis and given the spending on transfers under 500 million euros, Ten Hag needs to quickly show results, otherwise it is unclear why they keep him.

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October 04, 2023, 06:35:19 AM
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Manchester United actually didn't have a bad performance. They were very effective offensively throughout the match, but if there is a problem with something, it could be Casemiro's penalty and the red card he received. Everything in Galatasaray's favor became more evident after that red card. Before that, Galatasaray, which scored 2 goals with 2 counter attacks, found strong positions against ManU, which was missing. As a result, they scored the third goal and won the match. ETH may now need to be questioned in Manchester United.
In terms of play, Manchester United were indeed able to perform well and create dangerous attacks, but the carelessness of their own players made everything fall apart. Casemiro's red card gave Galatasaray more freedom, but Onana's poor performance was also the main cause of the defeat. Erik Ten Hag is really quite confused about the problems plaguing his team. I think Ten Hag must have the courage to make decisions for players who cannot make a big contribution to the team. Now Erik Ten Hag's fate is truly on the brink.

yes that's right, and this is a losing streak for the red devils, and Manchester United have lost 3 matches at home even though last season they were good at home, thus, they are currently also slumped in the middle of the table. the blunder made by Onana which forced Casemiro to violate the opposing player which eventually led to a penalty and Casemiro got a red card, fortunately the penalty execution from the Galatasaray team was off target but that still did not make it a victory for Manchester United.

In my opinion this is a big mistake to let David De Gea leave Manchester United. to catch points and add points Manchester United must win in the upcoming match unfortunately now this club is ranked 10th in the primary league of course this is not a good ranking, and Erik ten Hag's future is a question mark. However, what is there to say that Erik Ten Hag is on the edge he feels quite confident his position remains safe.

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October 04, 2023, 06:42:32 AM
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From the beginning of the match Galatasaray team looked more confident, show readiness to win and fortunately they won. I didn’t expect such performance from them against United. Perhaps, it's because I didn't watch their first UCL match and wasn't aware they're this good. Manchester united wasted some precious chances actually but I won't agree with you that they had more chance to win against Galatasaray. From my observation, Galatasaray deserve to win because they play with full force and energy compare to united who doesn't look dangerous.

It baffles me how everyone is talking about Onana"s mistakes and left out Rashford. Rashford is the one who contributed most to the defeat of Manchester united in yesterday's game. If all chances he wasted were converted to goal, United would have won or the scoreline will be balanced. Yes, Onana actually fumble but at least he corrected his mistake by saving the penalty. I wonder if Rashford is somehow related to ETH in anyway as he keep starting him despite his very poor performance week in week out.

Manchester United has a weak defense, this will affect the fact that the team concedes a lot of goals, and if there are missed goals, then it’s hard not to blame the goalkeeper as well. Manchester United are conceding too many goals, and if nothing changes, good attacking play will not help them.

Bayern also made me nervous yesterday, Copenhagen is not the strongest team in Europe and I don’t want to think about what will happen when Tuchel has to meet Real or City. But Lens surprised us the most yesterday when they managed to beat Arsenal and top the table. A very unexpected situation in this group, I didn’t expect to see Lance as the leader after two rounds.

 
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October 04, 2023, 06:46:22 AM
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What Casemiro made was due to Onana's own mistake for passing to the opponent while Casemiro behind him tried to defend by making a tackle, as a result it became a penalty even though the Galatasaray player failed to execute it.

After that they lost their balance in defense to catch Man United defenders off guard, this is even more dilapidated into the Man United squad, Onana with an expensive goalkeeper has a lot of goals if I'm not mistaken after he joined 18 goals into his goal.

Man United's situation in Group A is getting worse, I'm not sure they will make it through if they see this poor performance, Erik Ten Hag has not been able to evaluate as a whole.
I see the Manchester United team as quite sad, as if bad luck always comes to this team from the various mistakes they make which are actually not that important.
Onana is actually a goalkeeper who has quite good qualities (we could see that last season when he was with Inter Milan) but now his self-confidence has really decreased while at Manchester United and his performance in every game is getting worse.
And Casemiro's red card was influential enough that they had to lose in front of their own supporters.
Now that Manchester United have not won any points in 2 matches, of course they will be very doubtful of qualifying from the group.

Actually, I was surprised by Arsenal's defeat, even though they were ahead in the first half, in the second half the Arsenal team experienced a slight decline so they conceded 2 goals, and Lens is a team that has not been good this season. , but they were able to beat the strong Arsenal team. This is an extraordinary result.

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October 04, 2023, 06:46:38 AM
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It's not yet stopped since manchester united will face copenhagen away. that will be also become a disastrous result for manchester united. Losing three points against copenhagen will put manchester united in a very big disadvantage at this moment.
If they lose another game they will be in trouble. Let's assume that they will lose against Bayern Munich again. They have now to hope for Galatasaray to drop points + they have to win in Turkey in order to catch them. Their next game will be in Manchester before going to Denmark. I doubt they could collect 6 points from these two games. If they fail to do that, they could say goodbye to qualification.

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October 04, 2023, 06:48:30 AM
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Manchester United actually didn't have a bad performance. They were very effective offensively throughout the match, but if there is a problem with something, it could be Casemiro's penalty and the red card he received. Everything in Galatasaray's favor became more evident after that red card. Before that, Galatasaray, which scored 2 goals with 2 counter attacks, found strong positions against ManU, which was missing. As a result, they scored the third goal and won the match. ETH may now need to be questioned in Manchester United.
In terms of play, Manchester United were indeed able to perform well and create dangerous attacks, but the carelessness of their own players made everything fall apart. Casemiro's red card gave Galatasaray more freedom, but Onana's poor performance was also the main cause of the defeat. Erik Ten Hag is really quite confused about the problems plaguing his team. I think Ten Hag must have the courage to make decisions for players who cannot make a big contribution to the team. Now Erik Ten Hag's fate is truly on the brink.

yes that's right, and this is a losing streak for the red devils, and Manchester United have lost 3 matches at home even though last season they were good at home, thus, they are currently also slumped in the middle of the table. the blunder made by Onana which forced Casemiro to violate the opposing player which eventually led to a penalty and Casemiro got a red card, fortunately the penalty execution from the Galatasaray team was off target but that still did not make it a victory for Manchester United.

In my opinion this is a big mistake to let David De Gea leave Manchester United. to catch points and add points Manchester United must win in the upcoming match unfortunately now this club is ranked 10th in the primary league of course this is not a good ranking, and Erik ten Hag's future is a question mark. However, what is there to say that Erik Ten Hag is on the edge he feels quite confident his position remains safe.
Manchester United is in big trouble, it seems difficult for them to get out of their downturn. Not only is the crisis of players experiencing injuries but the crisis of self-confidence is also another problem that must be considered.

Yes, Erik Ten Hag's mistake was when he threw De Gea out of the squad and replaced him with Onana. Onana was brave enough to be brought to Old Trafford because of his impressive performance with Inter, but unfortunately for United he always made mistakes that were detrimental to his team. Not only Onana, several other players must also be evaluated for the good of the team. I don't know how long Erik Ten Hag will stay at Old Trafford, if he doesn't get better maybe he will soon be asked to leave because the club has spent a lot of money to build the squad.

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October 04, 2023, 06:53:49 AM
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The Champions League match between Leipzig vs Manchester City will take place at the Red Bull Arena stadium, of course it will be a match that is quite difficult to predict knowing that both clubs are in good condition, but to see the odds, it looks like I will bet on Manchester City which is quite convincing.
Judging from their last match, Manchester City were able to win with a quite fantastic score, namely 7:0 without reply at Manchester City headquarters and of course Manchester City will continue to maintain its performance and prove that Manchester City deserves to win the Champions League title like last season.[/left]
- The comeback of Rodri will be a significant boost for Manchester City in this match. However, Man City has historically struggled against Leipzig. Even when they were in excellent form, Man City experienced a loss and a draw in their two visits to the Red Bulls Arena.
- Additionally, Kevin De Bruyne and John Stones will still be unavailable, although there's a chance that Bernardo Silva might play. Given these circumstances, I believe a draw would be a favorable outcome for Man City.
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October 04, 2023, 06:57:07 AM
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Yes, Erik Ten Hag's mistake was when he threw De Gea out of the squad and replaced him with Onana. Onana was brave enough to be brought to Old Trafford because of his impressive performance with Inter, but unfortunately for United he always made mistakes that were detrimental to his team. Not only Onana, several other players must also be evaluated for the good of the team. I don't know how long Erik Ten Hag will stay at Old Trafford, if he doesn't get better maybe he will soon be asked to leave because the club has spent a lot of money to build the squad.

MNU new goalkeeper is waste of money and time. Local sportbet service near me found out that Onana have negative save ratio and this is for last week or something like that. He saved 4-5 on goals shoots but received 12-13 goals in 18-19 shoot on target, That is very low for goalkeeper of this caliber you will all agree.
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October 04, 2023, 06:58:47 AM
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Again what an amazing and beautiful CL-evening we got tonight!
I absolutely LOVE this evenings more then anything else 🤓
Early games and then later games. I think that's the way to go for sure, can watch more games at once and more hours to be entertained.  Grin


Okay so let's check the games for tonight. (I just do the game's I think it's the most interesting for me)

Game: 1 Atletico Madrid - Feyenoord
To start early with we got a quite interesting game, Feyenoord is not a bad team, but in Madrid and Atletico have home it should be harder then normally for Feyenoord.
I think Atletico will win, it will be quite close but in the end they will win. In the end it's a lot different from the top in La Liga then Eredivisie, and don't forget Atletico did beat Real Madrid in the league.

Game: 2 - Newcastle-PSG
To start with for the later games we got, what a game Newcastle that hasn't played in Europe for 10 years make their way back, and what a first to go game! Against PSG.
Now PSG have lost a lot of players and need to build up something new so this will be the perfect test for now.
How good is PSG this year? I think it will be a close game the odds says (2.55x to Newcastle and 2.63x for PSG) Because I have a love in Isak and Newcastle I think I put a small bet on them. THEY ARE JUST COOL!  Cool

Game: 3  - Celtic-Lazio
We take our self to Scotland and Celtic Park for Celtic-Lazio. A place Celtic rarely lose on. Many teams are happy with a draw here and then they go and win home.
Lazio may be better but how much? The thing with the Scottish League is that it's only two good teams there, so hard to compare. But why not a draw or a 2 as a result?

Game: 4 Porto- Barcelona
This is one interesting game!! How good is actually Barcelona this year? Porto a good team that have showed it last years in Europe reaching play off in CL + Home advance.
But the odds!?! 1.87 for Barcelona away against Porto and 4.10 for Porto! It's not like they play against Salzburg (Sorry Salzburg) but that odd's is crazy. More fair: 2.25X Barcelona and 3.25X for Porto.

Game: 5 Dortmund - AC Milan
For last.... I think Dortmund will win this game over and out! Nah but they are a little bit better then Milan, I think with that said Milan ain't bad at all. They are in the lead with same points in the Serie A so far.
But that home advance for Dortmund is the thing that will tip over and give them the victory, sorry Milan.


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October 04, 2023, 06:59:37 AM
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Manchester United has a weak defense, this will affect the fact that the team concedes a lot of goals, and if there are missed goals, then it’s hard not to blame the goalkeeper as well. Manchester United are conceding too many goals, and if nothing changes, good attacking play will not help them.
Before the match started, I said that Manchester United's defense and attack are very weak. Although the attacking wing is lined with good players, most of the attacking wing players are out of form at the moment due to which the attacking wing players are not getting the expected performance.
It's better not to talk about Manchester United's defense, because the defense line-up of such a Premier League team can be so weak that I would not have realized if I had not seen Manchester United's defense line-up.  

Their defense should have made some changes earlier this season. Had the defense been strong, they would not have been defeated in the last match. If Manchester United continues to perform like this regularly then this club will undoubtedly lose their popularity.

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October 04, 2023, 07:01:37 AM
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Yes, Erik Ten Hag's mistake was when he threw De Gea out of the squad and replaced him with Onana. Onana was brave enough to be brought to Old Trafford because of his impressive performance with Inter, but unfortunately for United he always made mistakes that were detrimental to his team. Not only Onana, several other players must also be evaluated for the good of the team. I don't know how long Erik Ten Hag will stay at Old Trafford, if he doesn't get better maybe he will soon be asked to leave because the club has spent a lot of money to build the squad.

MNU new goalkeeper is waste of money and time. Local sportbet service near me found out that Onana have negative save ratio and this is for last week or something like that. He saved 4-5 on goals shoots but received 12-13 goals in 18-19 shoot on target, That is very low for goalkeeper of this caliber you will all agree.

Intermilan has been successfully exchanging their garabge goal keeper to the good goal keeper like yan sommer. Onana was utterly scam transfer by united. United has been scammed two times. The first one to buy mount from chelsea with 60 millions and then onana which was around 35 - 40 millions.

Manchester united has been scammed by another team for around 100 millions in the last transfer season. Watching manchester united played the game like to watch a comedy club.
It's very entertain for me to see how manchester united keeps repeat the horrific performance again and again. It's such a pathetic result. Ten hag has known so well about how to end his career as manchester united coach.

Manchester united fans will be yelling ten hag out once manchester united will be failed to be qualifying for play off round.

Onana is a wasteful goal keeper. I don't even know what motivation that push ten hag to buy him. I wanna see meguire to play in the upcoming match.

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October 04, 2023, 07:09:49 AM
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Napoli and Madrid played a good game and the chances to win were really the same, but Madrid were luckier... Today I think there could be a similar game between Leipzig and City... City have a defeat in the last two games, while Leipzig are very strong...
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October 04, 2023, 07:12:10 AM
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Paris Saint Germain were not that dominant in the French Ligue 1 this season, Newcastle United might stand a chance to beat Paris Saint Germain with their high flying confidence after they won 3 straight games in a row including beating Manchester City in the EFL Cup and also the thrashing of Sheffield United by scoring 8 goals past their opponent. I think Newcastle United might emerge as the winner of the match and score their first victory at Group F against Paris Saint Germain.

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October 04, 2023, 07:15:26 AM
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Game: 5 Dortmund - AC Milan
For last.... I think Dortmund will win this game, they are a bit, not much but a bit heavier I think. They have home so it's a plus for them!
But Milan is not bad. Started more then OK in the League and it will be interesting to see where we have them.


I have the same feeling, because  Milan has many weaknesses which, if the Dortmund coach sees it well, then Dortmund can win this match with a score of at least 2-0, IMO. But, as a Milan fan, of course I hope that Dortmund does not see this weakness and Milan can give victory to their fans. However, the result against Dortmund could determine whether Milan will qualify from the group phase or not. because in the first match, even though Milan had several chances, they had difficulty scoring goals against Newcastle. And the second match maybe we will see same playing style from Milan.

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October 04, 2023, 07:27:47 AM
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That was a reckless tackle by Casemeiro and his decision cost the team to lose, some may think that he did that for the team to prevent the goal but to me its a poor decision because a goal scored can always be equalized. The team suffered and they were in even more pressure and the story could have been different if the penalty went in.

I don’t think with Manchester United’s performance currently they can survive the group stage, they need to improve their game if they really want to qualify to the knockout round. They are not in good shape both in the Premier league and other competitions but no one can tell where the problem lies but I think the coach is not doing enough.
Don't blame Casemiro for the action that led to the penalty. It was Onana's fault because of the careless clearance of the ball which had to enter the legs of Mertens and Casemiro had to see if he could do something to save the team and as Mertens knew he was coming, ran into his front and that penalty was awarded. As it is, Onana is not living up to expectations and I can see frustration deeply liming his features. All he needs right now is to be relaxed, some games he should not start, so he can be able to ease off steam because at this rate of over use he'd not be able to pick up form.

 
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October 04, 2023, 07:29:22 AM
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I'm sure everyone who bet on Arsenal has lost money, including me. Cheesy

How could it not be that Arsenal has made me crazy, as have most people who have predictions that Arsenal will win easily in this away match against Lens. Even though Arsenal took the lead first and it made me even more optimistic that they would win by a landslide. However, it wasn't long before Lens managed to equalize before finally making a comeback in the second half. My multibet was immediately destroyed when Arsenal lost and even though the Bayern Munich bet was not optimal, at least I could still double my money here. Despite all that, the 2-1 score lasted until the final minute and this result meant that Arsenal failed to occupy the top position, while Lens managed to overtake Arsenal with 4 points.
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October 04, 2023, 07:34:36 AM
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Manchester United just might not make it to the round of 16.
It is very possible, but Manchester United still has the time to put things right, though it is going to be quite difficult. Their fate would be decided in their next two UCL games which is against Copenhagan, both home and away, if they can win both matches, then they'd be back in contention to make it to the RO16. Manchester United are in a really tough group and i am not sure they understood how tough the group would be after the draw was made.

Erik Ten Hag is under so much pressure, the hierarchy at Manchester United would definitely give him time, but he'll be forcing their hand into a change if the club continues to lose football matches, a club like Manchester United shouldn't be struggling the way they are doing right now.


I noticed something if you don't start the season well then there is a possibility of that club struggling till when that season will end. It has its on way of even reducing the confidence of the players and that is what is currently affecting Manchester united currently. With what Manchester united is playing they will not make it out of the group stage. Even their game against Galatasaray they tried and they scored first and even Galatasaray took advantage of Casemiro red card against manchester united they were trying by all means just to win not a bad performance from the united. And the round 16 will even get tougher and they will not survive it.

Erik Ten Hag is really trying is best to bring out the best in Manchester united but its getting more difficult, managing a team is not easy, everything is on you the welfare of the club their performance and many more been a coach is one hell of a work.

If Manchester united continue like this in this season, I think they will miss their opportunity in this tournament because they have the opportunity to win the match against Galatasaray to embrace three points from the match but they allowed them to equalized the goals at 71 minutes and achieved the winning goal at 81 minutes to defeated Manchester united. If Manchester united coach can work on their defenders and goalkeeper before their next match, I believe they will be able to defeat Copenhagen 2-0 to make their fans happy, and give them hope that they will top up in their group stage in this season. Since Bayern Munich is part of this group with Manchester united, it will going to be a tough match for this group, and Manchester united need to go and prepare themselves well so that they will be able to withstand their opponent in their remaining matches.
Manchester United is not ready and does not have the capacity  to continue in the Champion League even the Premier league is not in favor of Manchester United. If not for Casemiro red card is either Manchester united will draw or win the game, I did not expect much from them but from their performance they tried even if they did not win. Bayern Munich is on another level and can disable most of the clubs in their group. When you said they need to prepare there self i was already wondering what preparation they can do again i don't think Manchester united have anything serious to offer for now because they ain't going far in this champions league. Better luck for them next time.

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