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October 04, 2023, 01:51:46 PM
Last edit: October 04, 2023, 02:51:21 PM by Swordsoffreedom
 #6141

It seems Manchester United will not qualify for the next round, sure they have a chance if we talk about the probability, but it's high unlikely. They don't have second strategy e.g. new goalkeeper and new defenders, so they will keep use their current poor goalkeeper and defenders.

At least, Hojlund didn't get bullied like Mudryk since he can show his capability Cheesy
I am not at all surprised by Manchester United's defeat. Many considered Manchester United as favorites in this match. But I was skeptical. So I refrained from betting on this match. And now it turns out my decision was correct.
Galatasaray would have won the match 4-2 if Mauro Icardi had been able to score from the penalty spot. One of the turning points of the match was Casemiro's red card. One of the most experienced players in United's squad is Casemiro. United's performance was further weakened after he received a red card. Manchester United is now the last team in the table. Confirming the knockout round has become more difficult for them. However, it is still possible for Manchester United to secure the knockout round.
The opportunity is still there, but if we look at Manchester United's current performance, I am very pessimistic about them being able to qualify from the group.
I see that Manchester United's defeat was inseparable from the mistakes made by Onana, even Casemiro's red card was also Onana's mistake which made Casemiro make this mistake.
And although Onana cannot be blamed alone, because of the blunders he made, all Manchester United players played very badly. I don't know how Ten Hag can make this team recover, but with so many Manchester United players injured, it is almost impossible for him to do it. make this team recover in the near future.

Manchester United's overall performance was poor.  And so I will not blame only Onana. The chemistry between Manchester United players is not good, this is why i think their performance is poor. But maybe if Onana had performed a bit better, they would not have been defeated in the match,  maybe the team would have been able to draw the match. Still  there's no denying that United's performance was poor.

Ten Hag must first try to stabilize his team. I don't see any chance for this team to improve unless there is a change in match strategy. If they continue this poor performance, the management may soon start looking for a new coach.

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October 04, 2023, 01:59:32 PM
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Man United's suffering is getting bigger and bigger. It looks like their Red color is being blurred. Grin The start of the match was quite convincing as they took control and won with a goal from Rasmus Hojlund. Even Rasmus Hojlund however could have scored again and drawn.  But the bad result of Onana's blunder earned Casemiro a red card. This makes it easier for Galatasaray to press.  Currently Man United is the caretaker. It seems that they will find it difficult to qualify for the knockout stage.

The team's morale is seriously degraded. I believe they are being discussed and insulted by the press and fans. They must have a strong spirit to overcome and regain energy for the next matches. Now Manchester United will be the hottest topic.
Rasmus Hojlund played very well, and the attack was stable again. As for defense, there is no need to debate. They have terrible destructive power, especially goalkeeper Onana. He is the one responsible for the defeat in the last 2 matches. I wonder if this was the stupidest thing when Ten Hag bought him at a high price to replace an experienced De Gea. If we keep De Gea so that both compete fairly, we will know who is the club's worthy goalkeeper. And pressure them to do better. Ten Hag is too confident that Onana will do better than De Gea, leading to serious consequences.

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October 04, 2023, 02:24:22 PM
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This is the first time PSG will meet Newcastle, although they have Mbappe, Muani, Dembele, Ramos, Marquinhos and Hakimi, but I think this match Newcastle will win because they're more rounded. PSG is like Manchester United, they have many talented players and at the same time they have many mediocre players.


It seems that at this moment I am quite doubtful about the Premier League teams in the Champions League because yes, it seems like the Premier League teams at this moment seem to be experiencing a bad trend because of the bad results obtained by Manchester United and Arsenal. Although indeed, we can still be confident in choosing Newcastle, but I am quite sure that PSG in the Champions League at this moment seems to have a better chance of win. So yeah, I'm personally not sure about Newcastle, even though Newcastle are playing at home and seem quite the favorites too based on the odds. But yes, I will still choose PSG in this match, because PSG has of course better experience in the Champions League compared to Newcastle.

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October 04, 2023, 02:28:16 PM
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Man United's suffering is getting bigger and bigger. It looks like their Red color is being blurred. Grin The start of the match was quite convincing as they took control and won with a goal from Rasmus Hojlund. Even Rasmus Hojlund however could have scored again and drawn.  But the bad result of Onana's blunder earned Casemiro a red card. This makes it easier for Galatasaray to press.  Currently Man United is the caretaker. It seems that they will find it difficult to qualify for the knockout stage.

This club, which was once so dominant in European football, is now experiencing difficult times. It is very worrying to see MU's current condition, losing in the league and UCL and playing at home.
watching the match last night, I saw the beginning of disaster for Mu when Onana's mistake which resulted in Casemiro's red card became one of the crucial moments that had a negative impact on Manchester United's game. and everyone knew after that Icardi could score
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October 04, 2023, 02:41:30 PM
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...But I want to raise a concern and that is that Madrid struggled much to have a win against Napoli and the method of playing of Madrid shows that they are in the lane of becoming an ordinary club. The Madrid fear factor is no longer there and it is a very big problem for them.

Real struggled against Napoli, yes, but in my opinion Napoli is a strong team, full credit to the Italian team. Last year they made it to the semi-finals, they won the Italian championship and today they're 3rd, so it's normal to any team to strugle against them.

This is hardly the best offensive in the league, and their error in not acquiring a striker will become apparent when they face bigger clubs. Bellingham scored another goal for the club in today's encounter against Napoli.

Real Madrid were much stronger when Real Madrid had an experienced striker in the squad. But in today's result, Real Madrid definitely needs a striker because Real Madrid is strong and even though they won with Napoli team but the margin is small.

I don't think it is the best attacking. Bayern Munich and Man City attacking are better, they have a strong striker and good wingers. Real Madrid is missing a strong pure striker (CF). That's why Real Madrid can't use the counter-attack strategy as well (effective) as in the previous seasons when they have Benzema or Ronaldo as a CF.

Hahaha, it seems the consensus is that Real Madrid need a striker ASAP
But you know what, I like the team like it is now, without a fixed striker and with very fast players who know how to dribble, give assists and score goals, in my opinion it's a difficult formation to opponents, hard to stop
Ancelotti is getting good results at least, as Real are top of La Liga too

Bellingham has already scored 8 goals in 9 games, if he keeps it up, Real will hardly miss another striker  Cheesy



In your opinion, can Real reach a final with this team? Or could the attack be the factor holding them back?





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October 04, 2023, 02:59:50 PM
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I was surprised by Osimhen's leap because he beat Rudiger in an aerial duel, but Kepa was still very alert because if he hadn't been, it could have been a goal.
A tense second half but Madrid came out on top in the end and I'm happy with the result and my bet on the game.
The game was worth watching as the intensity from start to finish was hot and that's what I expect from a big game.
My bets on Bayern, Madrid and Inter worked out, but Arsenal were beyond my expectations.
Anyone would agree that the Napoli and Madrid match was the match of the day as it was a thriller with neither club wanting to drop points although in the end Meret's own goal dashed Napoli's hopes of a point as Madrid took all 3 points.
With this result Madrid are firmly on top with 6 points and I reckon this will hold until the end for Madrid although I still feel that Napoli will take second place.

In another match 2 English clubs had to lose points where the favourite Arsenal had to lose to Lens and Casemiro's red card for Manchester United allowed Galatasaray to make a comeback and get 3 points for the second match and unfortunately with this defeat Manchester United had to be ranked last in group A.
Actually for the own goal from Meret I don't think it was Meret's fault because after all it was a difficut ball to reach when Valverde's hard shot hit the bar and accidentally hit in the air which was not a deliberate action because it was not too unexpected so I don't think it was a mistake from a goalkeeper because it would be difficult to avoid the ball in that position.

For Manchester United and Arsenal it's a little unfortunate because they are the favorites in this match, it's just that their conditions are not so good that they have to be willing to lose points and for Manchester United they have to try better in match 3 because otherwise it will be complicated and they may not be able to qualify for the next phase.

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October 04, 2023, 03:02:43 PM
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Man United's suffering is getting bigger and bigger. It looks like their Red color is being blurred. Grin The start of the match was quite convincing as they took control and won with a goal from Rasmus Hojlund. Even Rasmus Hojlund however could have scored again and drawn.  But the bad result of Onana's blunder earned Casemiro a red card. This makes it easier for Galatasaray to press.  Currently Man United is the caretaker. It seems that they will find it difficult to qualify for the knockout stage.

This club, which was once so dominant in European football, is now experiencing difficult times. It is very worrying to see MU's current condition, losing in the league and UCL and playing at home.
watching the match last night, I saw the beginning of disaster for Mu when Onana's mistake which resulted in Casemiro's red card became one of the crucial moments that had a negative impact on Manchester United's game. and everyone knew after that Icardi could score
Man United's nightmare is not over yet and I think Ten Hag should start to worry about his position. Ten Hag prefers to ignore De Gea in favor of bringing in Onana from Inter Milan, who at that time came with full confidence. But so far, Onana has not been able to perform according to expectations. 2 defeats in the Champions League is a bad start for Man United. They still have a chance, but it will not be an easy fight and of course, there must be significant changes.

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October 04, 2023, 03:03:36 PM
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Man United's suffering is getting bigger and bigger. It looks like their Red color is being blurred. Grin The start of the match was quite convincing as they took control and won with a goal from Rasmus Hojlund. Even Rasmus Hojlund however could have scored again and drawn.  But the bad result of Onana's blunder earned Casemiro a red card. This makes it easier for Galatasaray to press.  Currently Man United is the caretaker. It seems that they will find it difficult to qualify for the knockout stage.

Winning the next four fixtures in the Champions League can be attained of Erik Ten Hag would stop being a full-time idiot. This are worrying times but how they are managed is all that matters.
Man United have a good ball playing goal keeper but not same for  all of the Central defender's since Lisandro Martinez got Injured. That should have been improved before the season kicked but Man United didn't take the bold steps towards it.
Those two goals are good for his confidence. The Denmark young man is growing into a mature striker for United. Some decisions need to be tough taken by Ten Hag. Qualifications for the knock out stage will be tough I have come to conclusion.

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Copenhagen's opening goal scored by Lukas Lerager was immediately replied to by Jamal Musiala but until now the score has not changed because Copenhagen is also still defending and can keep up with the performance made by Bayern until the 80th minute.
Bayern are not too strong in terms of dominance but they are still very good so far because they are still pressing even though this is still lacking.

Copenhagen wanted to give their visitors Bayern Munich a tough time in this game, but the German side later proved they are the superior team.

As for the match between Manchester United and Galatasaray, the result from this game has made it the second time that Manchester United has lost in the Champions League group match and Galatasaray is gradually securing the second spot in their group, Man Utd losing in this game has decreased their chances of qualifying to the next round of the competition.
In the end, it wasn't wrong as Bayern were still very good and managed to win against Copenhagen who were quite troublesome in terms of defence in this match.
On the other hand, this is increasingly difficult for Manchester United because seeing Copenhagen when facing Bayern, this is a burden for Manchester United later because they must win in this match but on the other hand they will also be very inconvenient to face Copenhagen with a strong defence.

Copenhagen's opening goal scored by Lukas Lerager was immediately replied to by Jamal Musiala but until now the score has not changed because Copenhagen is also still defending and can keep up with the performance made by Bayern until the 80th minute.
Bayern are not too strong in terms of dominance but they are still very good so far because they are still pressing even though this is still lacking.
The crucial minute is happening now I think it will be interesting where the last 10 minutes sometimes always have a pretty good surprise in a match.
The game is now turned, 2:1 for Bayern Munich. Musiala has made the 1:1 by himself, sensational good. And now Thomas Müller makes an extremely good pass for Tel and he does it again shortly before the end, simply very well. The 3x change in minute 78 was exactly right from coach Tuchel, Müller and Tel make 10 minutes later the so important goal.
A few minutes after I posted, a goal was scored by Tel and Bayern secured 3 points in this match.
Copenhagen is quite good at compensating for the performance of Bayern, it's just that in terms of experience and conditions Bayern is much stronger than Copenhagen makes them difficult. The defence needs to be appreciated because however trying to keep up rather than defending completely against Bayern is very worthy of praise but the crucial minutes they seem to lose focus.

Btw currently Arsenal are still losing 2-1 to Lens and it looks like my multi for Arsenal and Madrid failed in this second match because the score is still unfavourable for Madrid and Arsenal.
I'm not impressed at all with the way Arsenal played it's match today. I wasn't impressed with the manager as well. All I was expecting was a straight win but otherwise happened. Although Lens had the struggles of holding the match, but Arsenal had all it takes to control the game. Loosing over Lens is not encouraging for the UCL. Unfortunately, Saka went off injured and had to leave the match from the first half. That I felt was part of the reasons why the team could not hold it stronger. I would not say, Vieira didn't try, but Arsenal needed more striking force. This further commensurate my opinion that Arsenal needs more squad depth to take this league. Especially from the Saka's angle.

Arsenal's dominance was actually very good and they also had quite good initiation but Lens is also clearly not a bad club even though their performance in Ligue 1 is currently not very good but they are still very good and of course in this match Lens needs to thank Bamba who made some good saves in this match.
David Raya's mistake must also be addressed by Arteta because this is purely a mistake he made so there needs to be improvements in buying time and finding a rhythm so that something similar does not happen again.

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Snip.
Last year was like a golden season for Onana. That's why they paid a huge amount of money to bring him to the team, and now we are talking about his skills not being enough. Of course, he is talented, but he may not have been able to adapt to the team. In this case, starting a few matches as a substitute could have an impact for him. Maybe he needs to rest to play more concentrated, I don't know. Making such mistakes in such an important tournament made ManU fans very angry.
Moving to Manchester United was like a disaster for Andre Onana, his performance has declined since he was in goal for Manchester United, even though previously he always performed well when he was playing for Inter. In two games in the UCL this season,
The goal guarded by Onana has been conceded 7 times. This number was the worst conceded figure for Manchester United and was accompanied by blunders and an unconvincing performance from Onana.

After being humiliated by Galatasaray at Old Trafford, Onana was considered a source of disaster for Manchester United because he was thought to have contributed to Manchester United's defeat to Galatasaray due to a series of blunders he made. Onana made the most serious blunder when Manchester United were defeated by Galatasaray, Onana pass went to the opposing player (Mauro Icardi). Icardi looked like he had just received a beautiful assist and then immediately took the ball into the penalty box. Casemiro, whose position was not far from Icardi, immediately made a tackle and caused Icardi to fall and at the same time earned him a red card from the referee which resulted in Galatasaray being awarded a penalty.

As a result of two consecutive defeats, Manchester United is at the bottom of Group A with 0 points and makes its chances of qualifying for the next round increasingly slim.
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maybe someone knows the answer to this question.....without reading the answer :
after how many champions league matches did Cristiano Ronaldo scored his first goal ? .....

CR7 didn't score his first goal until the 27th Champions League game. i didn't know that myself and only read it today. 26 games without a goal is a long time for such a star.


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As a result of two consecutive defeats, Manchester United is at the bottom of Group A with 0 points and makes its chances of qualifying for the next round increasingly slim.

I think it will be difficult for Manchester United, there are still many changes that have to be made by this club, especially the coach, I think they will not qualify for the group and will go home early in the UCL this season, I don't think Manchester United is worthy of qualifying for the next round in the UCL and I also think it takes time to fix everything and recover from adversity so it looks like they will fail in the UCL.

I think they might just be able to focus on the EPL and several other championships which they might still be able to face rather than meeting great clubs in the UCL which makes them helpless and even looks like they have no hope of getting through the group phase to the next round, I'm sure Manchester united will return home first from the UCL this season and they need to overhaul everything for the better.  Grin

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October 04, 2023, 03:49:37 PM
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Man United's suffering is getting bigger and bigger. It looks like their Red color is being blurred. Grin The start of the match was quite convincing as they took control and won with a goal from Rasmus Hojlund. Even Rasmus Hojlund however could have scored again and drawn.  But the bad result of Onana's blunder earned Casemiro a red card. This makes it easier for Galatasaray to press.  Currently Man United is the caretaker. It seems that they will find it difficult to qualify for the knockout stage.

This club, which was once so dominant in European football, is now experiencing difficult times. It is very worrying to see MU's current condition, losing in the league and UCL and playing at home.
watching the match last night, I saw the beginning of disaster for Mu when Onana's mistake which resulted in Casemiro's red card became one of the crucial moments that had a negative impact on Manchester United's game. and everyone knew after that Icardi could score

That's the depravity of MU's management, who wasted so much money on buying players that they thought would advance the club, but in fact, on the contrary, the expensive players they bought didn't meet the club's expectations and only filled the medical room. The Red Devils have really slumped this season, not only in the UCL, even in the League, they don't seem to have the fighting spirit to compete. In fact, this is different from their city rivals who are able to change everything from season to season, at least MU can emulate their city rivals, we don't need to talk about opportunities in Europe, because there are no more opportunities.

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How do you see Jude Bellingham's development so far? isn't this young player so amazing?

In fact, in the 9 matches he has played with Real Madrid in all competitions he has scored 8 goals and assisted 3. Last night's match against Napoli also added to his contribution with 1 goal and 1 assist which earned him the MOTM award. Moreover, the goal he scored was extraordinary by dribbling the ball alone into the opponent's penalty box before he finally kicked the ball into a goal. Of course, those of you who have watched him a lot lately will not be surprised because he is a midfielder who also acts as a striker for Real Madrid and that is why Real Madrid is currently not having too much difficulty in terms of goal productivity since the presence of Jude Bellingham. I think this player will continue to break new records, especially in the Champions League and by being on the team with the most UCL titles he will certainly be even more enthusiastic about being the difference in every match he plays in the future.
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Man United's suffering is getting bigger and bigger. It looks like their Red color is being blurred. Grin The start of the match was quite convincing as they took control and won with a goal from Rasmus Hojlund. Even Rasmus Hojlund however could have scored again and drawn.  But the bad result of Onana's blunder earned Casemiro a red card. This makes it easier for Galatasaray to press.  Currently Man United is the caretaker. It seems that they will find it difficult to qualify for the knockout stage.

This club, which was once so dominant in European football, is now experiencing difficult times. It is very worrying to see MU's current condition, losing in the league and UCL and playing at home.
watching the match last night, I saw the beginning of disaster for Mu when Onana's mistake which resulted in Casemiro's red card became one of the crucial moments that had a negative impact on Manchester United's game. and everyone knew after that Icardi could score
It baffles me to see that Man United time to participate in UCL is a blunder to their fans and the club, because of the poor defensive pattern and Onana worst performance. I don't have any hope for them to pass this group stage because since this season started and after I watched two of their games in the premiership, I knew it that Man United will be a mess in the champions league and I wasn't surprised at what happened yesterday because I knew it that Man united is suffering from a big problem that might not be gotten rid of this season.

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Bellingham has already scored 8 goals in 9 games, if he keeps it up, Real will hardly miss another striker.
Just as Haaland improved the chances of Manchester City to win the champions league last season, Bellingham in Real Madrid and with how well he plays has improved Real Madrid's chances to win the champions league again this time, and even the La Liga. Bellingham is the best transfer they have made so far in this season. Real Madrid will easily qualify from the group stage, they have six points currently from their group and can also win their next game to have a perfect start to the competition.

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October 04, 2023, 04:10:31 PM
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I think we could see some surprise results in most of the matches today, I expect goals in most of the matches and it's also possible that some of the matches will end in a goalless draw.
Like everyone else, I normally think we will see a lot of goals in the Leipzig-City match, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a goalless draw. In most games I expect the favorites not to lose, yesterday already a lot of favorites lost.

 
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October 04, 2023, 04:11:51 PM
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Winning the next four fixtures in the Champions League can be attained of Erik Ten Hag would stop being a full-time idiot. This are worrying times but how they are managed is all that matters.
Man United have a good ball playing goal keeper but not same for  all of the Central defender's since Lisandro Martinez got Injured. That should have been improved before the season kicked but Man United didn't take the bold steps towards it.
Those two goals are good for his confidence. The Denmark young man is growing into a mature striker for United. Some decisions need to be tough taken by Ten Hag. Qualifications for the knock out stage will be tough I have come to conclusion.
When the 2023/24  champions league fixture was drawn I had an online argument with a friend overwhere Manchester United would finish in their table, I mentioned 2nd but he said United would not qualify for the next round, well he might be right after all, cause Manchester United currently got 0 points in their group and are at the bottom of the table.

 For them to qualify to the next round, they'll need to best Copenhagen  home/away as well as beating  Galatasaray away from home and probably getting a draw from Bayern of which I've got a doubt about but if they do it would give them about 10 point  which is enough to qualify them for the next round, Erik Ten Hag and his boys have let the fans down and would need to start winning games to get their trust and support again.
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October 04, 2023, 04:23:06 PM
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Moving to Manchester United was like a disaster for Andre Onana, his performance has declined since he was in goal for Manchester United, even though previously he always performed well when he was playing for Inter. In two games in the UCL this season,
The goal guarded by Onana has been conceded 7 times. This number was the worst conceded figure for Manchester United and was accompanied by blunders and an unconvincing performance from Onana.

After being humiliated by Galatasaray at Old Trafford, Onana was considered a source of disaster for Manchester United because he was thought to have contributed to Manchester United's defeat to Galatasaray due to a series of blunders he made. Onana made the most serious blunder when Manchester United were defeated by Galatasaray, Onana pass went to the opposing player (Mauro Icardi). Icardi looked like he had just received a beautiful assist and then immediately took the ball into the penalty box. Casemiro, whose position was not far from Icardi, immediately made a tackle and caused Icardi to fall and at the same time earned him a red card from the referee which resulted in Galatasaray being awarded a penalty.

As a result of two consecutive defeats, Manchester United is at the bottom of Group A with 0 points and makes its chances of qualifying for the next round increasingly slim.
It seems that Onana has considered all aspects of the risks he will face if he is willing to move to Manchester United this season. Serie A and the Premier League are completely different and he seems to know that very well, but it doesn't feel right to judge him too much because so far he is still in the adaptation stage too.

Manchester United and the supporters should support his performance rather than ridicule him and say bad things which are the mistakes he made in several matches, but I am sure Onana can perform better and gain good self-confidence and be respected by his own team's supporters. Ten Hag 100% supports Onana and will always be like that, but Onana must be able to prove it by performing better without much pressure on his shoulders.

 
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October 04, 2023, 04:27:49 PM
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I think we could see some surprise results in most of the matches today, I expect goals in most of the matches and it's also possible that some of the matches will end in a goalless draw.
Like everyone else, I normally think we will see a lot of goals in the Leipzig-City match, but I wouldn't be surprised to see a goalless draw. In most games I expect the favorites not to lose, yesterday already a lot of favorites lost.
Last season, City often drew away matches, so it may well be that today we will see a cautious game from Guardiola. Today I will watch Newcastle - PSG, it is obvious that the main task for the Parisians will be not to lose this match in order to maintain first place. It’s surprising that bookmakers give such high odds for PSG - 2.96 looks very tempting, but at the same time it makes me think.

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