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October 20, 2023, 01:45:19 PM
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Australia are 4-down now. David Warner finally got out, to the bowling of Haris Rauf. He made a super-human 163 from 124 balls, that included 9 sixes. Josh Inglis and Marcus Stoinis at the crease now, and they are known for power-hitting. Australia at 330/4 after 43 overs. 10 runs per over should get them past 400. Even this total would not be the highest in the tournament so far. South Africa made 428 against Sri Lanka a few days back. But it should be more than enough to get 2 points and a good NRR boost from this match.
It must be said that the Australian batsmen gave away wickets towards the end. If the opening pair had not scored 250 runs, I don't think Australia's total would have crossed 350 plus today. That may be the problem for the Australian team, they may be completely dependent on their opening pair. Two top order batsmen did well while rest of the batsmen did not do well at all. Australia were supposed to be over 400 given where the two opening batsmen had left their innings but towards the end the Pakistani bowlers may have got the wickets they didn't ask for. Win Predictor says that Pakistan has only 25% chance of winning this match and Australia has 75% chance of winning this match. 
Since the target is 368, it can be assumed that Australia will win this match.

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October 20, 2023, 01:48:43 PM
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The way Australia batted today was really good, I thought Pakistan might bowl well today, but they didn't bowl that well. Pakistan didn't bowl very well at the start and gave Australia a lot of runs due to which Australia today scored 367 runs for the loss of 9 wickets. However, the duo of Australia's two batsmen was outstanding, especially Mitchell Marsh and Warner with an average of 284 runs. Both of them had a batting performance to watch and put up strong batting due to which they were making huge scores and scored brilliant centuries. Australia managed to collect so many runs for the pair of these two batsmen in today's match, but the target given by Australia may be under a lot of pressure to meet Pakistan. The way Australia scored runs at the beginning of the game. That's exactly how Pakistan will need to score runs to meet the target. Now if Pakistan can play sustainably and bat well then it will be possible to reach the target.

At the end of 10 overs of the power play, Australia's collection was 82 runs. Australia collected 39 runs in the ninth and tenth overs, due to which they managed to  collect a big one after 10 overs. Pakistan collected 59 runs without losing  any wicket at the end of 10 overs. Since the team is yet to lose a wicket, I  would say that Pakistan's two openers have been able to collect quite well.
Pakistan squad has several batsmen who are capable of scoring big. If the two openers are able to build a partnership of 150 runs then Pakistan may be able to continue  fighting to win the match. Babar, Rizwan, Iftikhar and Shakeel are all good batsmen and can bat aggressively. So the two openers should try to  stay at the crease, and bat at a  decent strike rate. If they  waste the ball too much, the Pakistani batsmen  will be under more pressure.

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October 20, 2023, 01:54:02 PM
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I won't say there is absolutely no chance of Pakistan winning. This is a much more difficult task, but it is not impossible. The outfield is very fast. If Pakistan's batsmen can stay at the crease, they have a chance to win this match. Scoring runs will not be too difficult if Pakistan's batsmen can stay at the crease. But the performance of Pakistan's batsmen is very erratic. They cannot be trusted.

Pakistani openers Imam Ul Haque and Abdullah Shafique have started well. Pakistan collected 40 runs in 5 overs. The team has not lost any wicket yet. They are batting very smoothly. Abdullah scored 10 runs from 11 balls and Imam Ul Haque remained unbeaten with 25 runs from 19 balls. If the opening pair is prolonged, the match will become more competitive.
Chasing down a score of 360+ is never easy, no matter what the pitch is like. But runs are coming from Pakistani batters, which is a good sign. However, they need to be cautious about not losing wickets quickly because if they lose 2/3, it puts them under pressure. Still, I believe Pakistan has a chance to chase this total, especially on this flat track with a small boundary. It's an opportunity for them to score and win the game. But, Australia is the favorite, and I think they might win comfortably.

Batting for a target of 368 is difficult to win, and very difficult. But it is not impossible. And that's what I mean. It is possible. But the top order players must play well. Australia scored 284 runs from their two openers. Pakistan need to get at least 150 runs from their two openers. Otherwise it will be impossible to win such a big target. Also Babar and Rizwan are in good form. We saw that they batted very responsibly against Sri Lanka in big targets as well. And that's why I think the match will be very competitive. But Pakistan's chances of winning are now said to be 20-25%. Australia's chances of victory are high if they can do controlled bowling.

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October 20, 2023, 02:23:35 PM
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Australia team's David Warner and Mitchell Marsh these two batsmen have done a great performance in today's match. I didn't like the performance of the rest of the Australia team's batsmen. David Warner scored 163 runs from 124 balls. Mitchell Marsh scored 121 runs from 108 balls. But the runs that Australia team scored in today's match  It will be very difficult for Pakistan team to win by exceeding this target. Pakistan team has performed poorly in the bowling line in today's match.

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October 20, 2023, 03:06:02 PM
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Australia team's David Warner and Mitchell Marsh these two batsmen have done a great performance in today's match. I didn't like the performance of the rest of the Australia team's batsmen. David Warner scored 163 runs from 124 balls. Mitchell Marsh scored 121 runs from 108 balls. But the runs that Australia team scored in today's match  It will be very difficult for Pakistan team to win by exceeding this target. Pakistan team has performed poorly in the bowling line in today's match.

Pakistan team played well then suddenly Abdullah Shafique lost their wicket and then Imam Ul Haq also went out, but don’t worry because Pakistan's middle order is very good, we have Iftikhar Ahmed, Saud Shakeel, Shadab and etc. Babar Azam and Rizwan are present on the ground. I think that Australia can play better if their players try to do good ground fielding otherwise Australia will lose their match and David Warner and many other players of Australia make a score for loss if they don’t do good fielding.

Babar Azam and Rizwan both play very well, try to make the score and are totally free of the fear of getting out, which is good.
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October 20, 2023, 03:10:57 PM
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Australia team's David Warner and Mitchell Marsh these two batsmen have done a great performance in today's match. I didn't like the performance of the rest of the Australia team's batsmen. David Warner scored 163 runs from 124 balls. Mitchell Marsh scored 121 runs from 108 balls. But the runs that Australia team scored in today's match  It will be very difficult for Pakistan team to win by exceeding this target. Pakistan team has performed poorly in the bowling line in today's match.

Australia lost their third wicket in the 27th over. Captain Babar Azam returned to the dressing room with just 18 runs. If Babar Azam was at the crease, Pakistan  would have won. But now I don't think Pakistan can  win anymore. Although Rizwan is still at the crease. However, I have no confidence in the performance of Pakistan's middle order players. Their performance is  very erratic. Pakistan team can't collect 200 runs yet. After Babar is out, their performance will slow down a bit  more in the next few overs. After 28 overs, Pakistan collected 181 runs from 132 balls, the team still needs 187 runs. If the batsmen can't bat at a good strike rate  then they won't be able to win this match from now on. They now need around 8.5 runs per over to win.

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October 20, 2023, 03:14:57 PM
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I was always expecting australia - pakistan to be a  high scoring game and AUS  ended up scoring 367 runs  in the 1st inning,  they were actually predicted  to scoree 400+ runs during the middle innings  but some good overs for pakistan atleast gave them a fighting  chance in this match

Pakistan victory surely depended on babar azam but he got  out with just 18 runs, australia are now 1.13  odds live and pakistan chances  look slim Sad
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After 28 overs, Pakistan collected 181 runs from 132 balls, the team still needs 187 runs. If the batsmen can't bat at a good strike rate  then they won't be able to win this match from now on. They now need around 8.5 runs per over to win.
The required run rate keeps on creeping and if Australia is able to pick wickets then it is going to be a difficult chase for Pakistan even though they had a good start just like Australia when they started. With the way Australia started, for a while i expected them to score above 400 but full credits to Pakistan bowlers for pulling the match back and started picking up wickets after breaking the opening partnership.
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October 20, 2023, 03:16:42 PM
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In the end, Australia's innings ended on 367 runs. They should have collected more than 400. Because the two openers batted brilliantly. The team lost 9 wickets to collect these 367 runs.

After collecting 259 runs from the first wicket pair, the team could not collect 300 runs. The middle order batted very poorly. Apart from the two openers, no other player can bat well. Australia collected only 28 runs in the last 6 overs. I expected some better batting from Australia's middle order.

Pakistan's fielding was not good enough today. If the fielding was good, they could have stopped the Australian team within 350. Shaheen Shah Afridi bowled brilliantly today. If one more bowler like Afridi did well today, Australia would not have collected so much. He took 5 wickets for just 54 runs in 10 overs. However, let's see how Pakistan performs batting against such a big target.
After 33 overs, Australia's total was 245/0. In the last 17 overs they collected 122 runs and lost 9 wickets. They averaged a little over 7 runs per over. The batting of Australia's two openers looked like they would deliver a target of over 400. But after the two openers are out, no batsman can bat responsibly. The two openers put together 284 runs today and Pakistan gave 25 extra runs. The collection of the remaining 9 batsmen of Australia was only 58 runs. Had Maxwell or Smith been able to stay at the crease, the team could have collected around 400.

Haris Rouf scored the most runs among Pakistani bowlers today. Despite picking up three wickets, he conceded 83 runs in 8 overs. I miss Naseem Shah today. If Naseem Shah was in the squad along with Afridi, maybe Pakistan's bowling attack would have been stronger.
I won't say there is absolutely no chance of Pakistan winning. This is a much more difficult task, but it is not impossible. The outfield is very fast. If Pakistan's batsmen can stay at the crease, they have a chance to win this match. Scoring runs will not be too difficult if Pakistan's batsmen can stay at the crease. But the performance of Pakistan's batsmen is very erratic. They cannot be trusted.

Pakistani openers Imam Ul Haque and Abdullah Shafique have started well. Pakistan collected 40 runs in 5 overs. The team has not lost any wicket yet. They are batting very smoothly. Abdullah scored 10 runs from 11 balls and Imam Ul Haque remained unbeaten with 25 runs from 19 balls. If the opening pair is prolonged, the match will become more competitive.

It is gradually becoming difficult for Pakistan to win the match. However, their two openers batted very responsibly. Pakistan's two openers got off to a decent start. But could not score a century. But the important thing is that Pakistan captain Babar cannot play well. Babar and Rizwan's performance was very important in this match. Now as Pakistan needed around 8.5 runs per over, hard hitting batsmen like Babar and Rizwan were needed. Babar could collect only 18 runs. Talented batsmen like Rizwan, Shakeel and Iftikhar are still there. But I don't think Pakistan will be able to win.

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After 28 overs, Pakistan collected 181 runs from 132 balls, the team still needs 187 runs. If the batsmen can't bat at a good strike rate  then they won't be able to win this match from now on. They now need around 8.5 runs per over to win.
The required run rate keeps on creeping and if Australia is able to pick wickets then it is going to be a difficult chase for Pakistan even though they had a good start just like Australia when they started. With the way Australia started, for a while i expected them to score above 400 but full credits to Pakistan bowlers for pulling the match back and started picking up wickets after breaking the opening partnership.

Losing a pile of wickets after a mammoth partnership is very common but in the last 10 overs Pakistani bowlers managed to keep the scoring level below par which helped them to score than what we expected. But what I didn't expect is good opening from Pakistani batsmen which actually put them in a better stand even now while Babar again failed and with long tail they can only hope that Rizwan can repeat the same that he did with Sri Lanka.

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October 20, 2023, 04:08:45 PM
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It is gradually becoming difficult for Pakistan to win the match. However, their two openers batted very responsibly. Pakistan's two openers got off to a decent start. But could not score a century. But the important thing is that Pakistan captain Babar cannot play well. Babar and Rizwan's performance was very important in this match. Now as Pakistan needed around 8.5 runs per over, hard hitting batsmen like Babar and Rizwan were needed. Babar could collect only 18 runs. Talented batsmen like Rizwan, Shakeel and Iftikhar are still there. But I don't think Pakistan will be able to win.

Rizwan and iftikhar were batting very well. But just  now iftikhar is out. He got out after collecting 26 runs from 20 balls. Had I ftikhar been at the crease, Pakistan might have had hope of victory.  Mohammad rizwan is still at the  crease. rizwan's collection of 43 runs from 36 balls. Pakistan need another 99 runs from  66 balls to win. It is not an easy task at all. They must now collect 9  runs per over. As Pakistan have already lost 5 wickets, now their last hope is Mohammad Rizwan. If Rizwan is out,  the team has no chance of winning  this match. But the match turned out  to be very enjoyable. If Rizwan can stay  at the crease for the next 5 overs, the run gap will reduce further. The match will become more competitive.

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October 20, 2023, 04:19:45 PM
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Pakistan is in deep trouble, Rizvan is out after scoring 46 runs. 7 wickets down and the asking run rate is now 10.4, this match has gone out of Pakistan's hand. Another pressure match and Pakistan batters are unable to handle the pressure. The bowling and fielding of the Pakistan team today was way below their standard. Looks like they haven't been able to come out of the loss against India. Much needed win for the Australian team in order for them to make a comeback in this tournament.  

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October 20, 2023, 04:23:22 PM
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It is gradually becoming difficult for Pakistan to win the match. However, their two openers batted very responsibly. Pakistan's two openers got off to a decent start. But could not score a century. But the important thing is that Pakistan captain Babar cannot play well. Babar and Rizwan's performance was very important in this match. Now as Pakistan needed around 8.5 runs per over, hard hitting batsmen like Babar and Rizwan were needed. Babar could collect only 18 runs. Talented batsmen like Rizwan, Shakeel and Iftikhar are still there. But I don't think Pakistan will be able to win.
Rizwan and iftikhar were batting very well. But just  now iftikhar is out. He got out after collecting 26 runs from 20 balls. Had I ftikhar been at the crease, Pakistan might have had hope of victory.  Mohammad rizwan is still at the  crease. rizwan's collection of 43 runs from 36 balls. Pakistan need another 99 runs from  66 balls to win. It is not an easy task at all. They must now collect 9  runs per over. As Pakistan have already lost 5 wickets, now their last hope is Mohammad Rizwan. If Rizwan is out,  the team has no chance of winning  this match. But the match turned out  to be very enjoyable. If Rizwan can stay  at the crease for the next 5 overs, the run gap will reduce further. The match will become more competitive.

Rizwan is out. Pakistan has no chance of winning. I doubt if Pakistan can even score 300 runs now. Pakistan lost the wicket of Rizwan for 274 runs. Now Pakistan has no experienced batsmen. Pakistan still need 94 runs to win. It is impossible for them to collect.

Adam Zampa bowled brilliantly today. He picked up three wickets. But the important thing is that he picked the wickets of three very important batsmen of Pakistan. Zampa took the wickets of Babar, Rizwan and Iftikhar. We don't see better bowling today than Starc and Stoinis. They gave a lot of runs today. A win in today's match will see Australia move up to third on the points table.

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October 20, 2023, 04:25:42 PM
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Okay, this is game over for Pakistan, The 8th wicket is down and the run rate is climbing up.

It was turning out to be a perfect chase, almost but Aussie kept chipping wickets in intervals. Now I can understand why Pakistani fans use the word "Zimbabar" every now n then.

Going forward Australia needs to work on their catching, they also dropped a few catches and gave good competition to Pakistan's fielders. Today they were saved but against top teams, it'll cost them a match.
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October 20, 2023, 04:29:13 PM
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Right now, Pakistan team chase down 273 runs target in 40.1 overs by losing 6 wickets. At current time, M.Nawaz and U.Mir are batting in the pitch and recently I.Ahmed dismissed from the pitch by A.Zampa bowler of Australia team. Now Pakistan team need 41 runs target in 81 balls and 2 wickets remaining for playing. A.Shafique and Imam ul Haq played very well for their team. A.Shafique scored 64 runs in 61 balls and hitted seven 4s and two 6s in the pitch and Imam ul Haq scored 70 runs in 71 balls and hitted ten 4s. But other players did show Their actual performance in front of Australia including Captain. Now let's see they will chase down this remaining target or not? I didn't think they will win this today match.

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October 20, 2023, 04:56:18 PM
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Okay, this is game over for Pakistan, The 8th wicket is down and the run rate is climbing up.

It was turning out to be a perfect chase, almost but Aussie kept chipping wickets in intervals. Now I can understand why Pakistani fans use the word "Zimbabar" every now n then.

Going forward Australia needs to work on their catching, they also dropped a few catches and gave good competition to Pakistan's fielders. Today they were saved but against top teams, it'll cost them a match.

Australia was saved today only with the excellent score they could muster up, all thanks to openers. They can't expect such inning each time. Aussies might make it to semis but not further. I feel we will see India vs NZ in finals, only these two appear worthy teams to me.

On a side note, neither Australia or Pakistan could capitalize on foundation openers had created.
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October 20, 2023, 05:25:46 PM
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It is gradually becoming difficult for Pakistan to win the match. However, their two openers batted very responsibly. Pakistan's two openers got off to a decent start. But could not score a century. But the important thing is that Pakistan captain Babar cannot play well. Babar and Rizwan's performance was very important in this match. Now as Pakistan needed around 8.5 runs per over, hard hitting batsmen like Babar and Rizwan were needed. Babar could collect only 18 runs. Talented batsmen like Rizwan, Shakeel and Iftikhar are still there. But I don't think Pakistan will be able to win.
A comprehensive victory for Australia as they defeated Pakistan by 62 runs in Bengaluru. This Back to back victories for Australia have propelled them to the fourth spot in the points table, while New Zealand maintains their top position in world cup. Marcus Stoinis took 2 wickets his bowling figures  2/40 in 5 Overs  and captain Pat Cummins shine with the ball also took 2 wickets for Australia against Pakistan.David Warner was awarded the player of the match for his incredible performance Scored 163 runs against Pakistan. Adam Zampa spin bowl to much that difficulty for Pakistan batters in Bengaluru on a flat deck he took 4/53 wickets in 10-Overs and Win match for Australia all Out Pakistan 305 runs.

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October 20, 2023, 06:11:13 PM
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A comprehensive victory for Australia as they defeated Pakistan by 62 runs in Bengaluru. This Back to back victories for Australia have propelled them to the fourth spot in the points table, while New Zealand maintains their top position in world cup. Marcus Stoinis took 2 wickets his bowling figures  2/40 in 5 Overs  and captain Pat Cummins shine with the ball also took 2 wickets for Australia against Pakistan.David Warner was awarded the player of the match for his incredible performance Scored 163 runs against Pakistan. Adam Zampa spin bowl to much that difficulty for Pakistan batters in Bengaluru on a flat deck he took 4/53 wickets in 10-Overs and Win match for Australia all Out Pakistan 305 runs.

368 is defiantly not an easy target to chase and that too against Aussies bowling lineup. The dilemma with Pakistan batting is that most of top order players are playing with too much defense. They are not scoring runs with requirement of the game. Only Abdullah Shafique was able to hit two 6 among top 4 batsmen. Imam and Rizwan as usual scored runs with run a ball and that is not helping Pakistan.
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October 20, 2023, 06:11:58 PM
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Pakistan is in deep trouble, Rizvan is out after scoring 46 runs. 7 wickets down and the asking run rate is now 10.4, this match has gone out of Pakistan's hand. Another pressure match and Pakistan batters are unable to handle the pressure. The bowling and fielding of the Pakistan team today was way below their standard. Looks like they haven't been able to come out of the loss against India. Much needed win for the Australian team in order for them to make a comeback in this tournament.  
Pakistan was defeated by 62 runs in this match against Australia. Pakistan were bowled out in 45 overs where they managed to score 305 runs before being bowled out. Pakistan needed 62 runs in 5 overs when they were all out. My bet was on Pakistan in this match and I was a Pakistan supporter in this match so as a Pakistan supporter I felt bad that if Pakistan could have held their wicket for a little longer they could have chased down another big target and won. The opening two batsmen got off to a great start and did more than they were required to do but Babar Azam and Mohammad Rizwan shied away from the task. These two reliable batsmen needed to stay on the wicket for a while longer.  
When Babar Azam and Mohammad Rezwan got some stability on the wicket, I thought that maybe these two batsmen would seal Pakistan's victory and then strike but in reality something different happened. Congratulations to David Warner and congratulations to Australia for a nice win.

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October 20, 2023, 06:47:49 PM
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368 is defiantly not an easy target to chase and that too against Aussies bowling lineup. The dilemma with Pakistan batting is that most of top order players are playing with too much defense. They are not scoring runs with requirement of the game. Only Abdullah Shafique was able to hit two 6 among top 4 batsmen. Imam and Rizwan as usual scored runs with run a ball and that is not helping Pakistan.

Well.. let's not blame the Pakistani batsmen. A target of 368 would have been quite formidable even against weak teams such as Sri Lanka. And here we have Australia, who has world class bowlers. It was a near-impossible task to start with. But then credit goes to the Pakistani batsmen for giving a tough fight. They kept the losing margin to two digits. And this is going to matter, when the semi-final slots will be decided on the basis of net run rate. And as of now, both Australia and Pakistan are having equal points. 

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