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November 09, 2023, 05:56:57 AM
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With the number of points England currently have, they are pretty sure to play in the Champions Trophy.  England can play the Champions Trophy as the seventh team and there will be a big battle between Sri Lanka and Bangladesh for the eighth position. Bangladesh's next match is against Australia and Sri Lanka's next match is against New Zealand. The match against New Zealand will be very difficult for Sri Lanka whereas the match against Australia will be very difficult for Bangladesh. If Sri Lanka is well defeated against New Zealand, on the other hand if Bangladesh is defeated against Australia by a big margin, then Sri Lanka will play the Champions Trophy and Bangladesh will be eliminated from the Champions Trophy.
Nothing is 100% sure yet, yeah odds are favoring them.

But what if England managed to lose the last match against Pakistan and that too by a big margin? What if Sri Lanka vs New Zealand match washed out and they share 1 point each?

No hope for Bangladesh against Australia but you never know and what if the Dutch win the match against India too?  Grin

For everyone, this is a dead rubber fixer but Poor Poms are playing for their Champions Trophy qualification. They'll win tonight but automatic qualification is still at risk because they are not alone in this race as Bangbros and the Lankans are also competing for the last 2 positions.

NZ (WC semis slot) vs SL (CT qualification)
AUS vs BAN (CT qualification))
PAK (WC semis slot) vs ENG ((CT qualification) -We will witness an epic meltdown like the death of the ODI format Grin lol if England fails to qualify-.

And Party Pooper fixture for at least 1 test playing nation
IND vs NED (CT qualification)
 

My take on the games that are meant to qualify automatically for the Champions Trophy:

  • Srilanka won't qualify for the Champions Trophy as they would lose today or if the match gets canceled due to rain.
  • Bangladesh might not qualify if Australia takes the game seriously
  • England should qualify which means they might be able to beat Pakistan considering the kind of game played by them yesterday.
  • Again if India plays the match against the Netherlands in the same manner they have been playing then the Netherlands might not qualify
Considering the Kiwi's luck there are lot of ifs and buts

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November 09, 2023, 06:26:36 AM
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LOL.. Dutch beating India would be the ultimate upset after getting drubbed by Australia and England. I can't even imagine a possibility where Netherlands would defeat India. That is the case even if India fields their 3rd string team. And the Dutch doesn't seems to have learnt anything from the tournament so far. Their running between the wickets is still horrific, and their bowlers just undergo meltdowns whenever they bowl after the 40th over. The players just surrender the match if they lose the toss and are asked to bowl first.

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November 09, 2023, 06:36:28 AM
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England's next match will be interesting to watch where England's stakes will be to be participants of Champions trophy while Pakistan's stakes will be to qualify for semis. Likely we'll see interesting contest.

To not see England in champions trophy will be a different feeling.
Everyone is feeling bad to see England's performance in this world cup because last season's world cup winner England will perform so badly this time that we can't even imagine. England are still in a tough equation for the Champions Toffees. If England can beat Pakistan by a huge margin, maybe England can qualify for the Champions League. Even then, England will have to be very lucky or they will be knocked out of the Champions Trophy. Next match we will look forward and enjoy playing Pakistan England but hope England win against Pakistan by a big margin to retain their Champions League qualification.

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November 09, 2023, 06:44:49 AM
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No hope for Bangladesh against Australia but you never know and what if the Dutch win the match against India too?  Grin
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LOL.. Dutch beating India would be the ultimate upset after getting drubbed by Australia and England. I can't even imagine a possibility where Netherlands would defeat India. That is the case even if India fields their 3rd string team. And the Dutch doesn't seems to have learnt anything from the tournament so far. Their running between the wickets is still horrific, and their bowlers just undergo meltdowns whenever they bowl after the 40th over. The players just surrender the match if they lose the toss and are asked to bowl first.
Ikr but again a lot of possibilities

Who would have thought New Zealand could lose a match after scoring 400 runs, not many saw DLS coming and playing a big part there. We saw what Maxi achieved recently and the win predictor was 98% in favor of Afghanistan so strange things happen sometimes.

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With the number of points England currently have, they are pretty sure to play in the Champions Trophy.  England can play the Champions Trophy as the seventh team and there will be a big battle between Sri Lanka and Bangladesh for the eighth position. Bangladesh's next match is against Australia and Sri Lanka's next match is against New Zealand. The match against New Zealand will be very difficult for Sri Lanka whereas the match against Australia will be very difficult for Bangladesh. If Sri Lanka is well defeated against New Zealand, on the other hand if Bangladesh is defeated against Australia by a big margin, then Sri Lanka will play the Champions Trophy and Bangladesh will be eliminated from the Champions Trophy.
Nothing is 100% sure yet, yeah odds are favoring them.

But what if England managed to lose the last match against Pakistan and that too by a big margin? What if Sri Lanka vs New Zealand match washed out and they share 1 point each?

No hope for Bangladesh against Australia but you never know and what if the Dutch win the match against India too?  Grin
According to the weather forecast, there is no chance of the match between New Zealand and Sri Lanka being abandoned due to rain.  Just like you don't see any chance of Bangladesh against Australia match, I don't see any chance of Netherlands against India. Anything can still happen but I have mentioned the most likely ones. If you were asked which team would you prefer in today's match between Sri Lanka and New Zealand, I think New Zealand would be your answer. We can imagine the outcome of India Netherlands, Bangladesh Australia and Sri Lanka New Zealand matches but we have doubts about England and Pakistan matches. England vs Pakistan match can be anything. Just as Pakistan has the potential to beat England, England has the potential to beat Pakistan.

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November 09, 2023, 07:52:25 AM
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Ikr but again a lot of possibilities

Who would have thought New Zealand could lose a match after scoring 400 runs, not many saw DLS coming and playing a big part there. We saw what Maxi achieved recently and the win predictor was 98% in favor of Afghanistan so strange things happen sometimes.

Well.. they lost the match due to technical reasons. DLS system needs to be reviewed. Pakistan scored 200/1 after 25.3 overs, and therefore they were declared as the winners. But what is the guarantee that Pakistan would have scored another 202 runs in the next 24.3 overs? That is close to 9 runs per over. DLS system in this case assumes that all the Pakistan batsmen will bat like Fakhar Zaman and will score at strike rate of 150-160. I don't think that it is the case and the Kiwis were just one wicket away from the win.

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November 09, 2023, 08:10:17 AM
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Ikr but again a lot of possibilities

Who would have thought New Zealand could lose a match after scoring 400 runs, not many saw DLS coming and playing a big part there. We saw what Maxi achieved recently and the win predictor was 98% in favor of Afghanistan so strange things happen sometimes.

Well.. they lost the match due to technical reasons. DLS system needs to be reviewed. Pakistan scored 200/1 after 25.3 overs, and therefore they were declared as the winners. But what is the guarantee that Pakistan would have scored another 202 runs in the next 24.3 overs? That is close to 9 runs per over. DLS system in this case assumes that all the Pakistan batsmen will bat like Fakhar Zaman and will score at strike rate of 150-160. I don't think that it is the case and the Kiwis were just one wicket away from the win.
Yeah, the longer the format/Duration, the better chance of winning for a superior team and i guess no one really understands how DLS works in general, i have no idea either.

That's why T-20 is considered hit and miss and skill is not the main factor, even less equipped teams can get away from trouble waters with just one short burst.

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Today it is the 39 match of ICC world cup. It is between Sri Lanka and new Zealand match. Sri Lanka win is very important for Pakistan.If Sri Lanka defeats New Zealand, then Pakistan will be replaced in the semi-finals. Pakistan has full hope on Sri Lanka.That they will take Pakistan to the semi-finals.New Zealand  lose for Sri Lanka  very important of Pakistan team. Sri Lanka batsmen will have to struggle and work hard in today's match.If New Zealand wins this match, Pakistan will have to play with the run rate to win the match.And it will be very difficult for Pakistan.

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Today it is the 39 match of ICC world cup. It is between Sri Lanka and new Zealand match. Sri Lanka win is very important for Pakistan.If Sri Lanka defeats New Zealand, then Pakistan will be replaced in the semi-finals. Pakistan has full hope on Sri Lanka.That they will take Pakistan to the semi-finals.New Zealand  lose for Sri Lanka  very important of Pakistan team. Sri Lanka batsmen will have to struggle and work hard in today's match.If New Zealand wins this match, Pakistan will have to play with the run rate to win the match.And it will be very difficult for Pakistan.

Today's match is very important for three teams Sri Lanka, Pakistan and New Zealand. Sri Lanka wants to win today's match and stay in the top 8 of the points table. On the other hand, if New Zealand wins today's match by a big margin, the semi-final is almost guaranteed for them. Because the New Zealand team is in a much better position than Pakistan in terms of net run rate.

New Zealand won the toss and decided to field. New Zealand's bowlers picked up three wickets very quickly in the beginning. But they are giving plenty of runs. In 7 overs, Sri Lanka lost three wickets and collected 61 runs. Experienced bowlers like Tim Southee gave 35 runs in three overs and Boult took two wickets with 26 runs in 4 overs. The outfield is very fast today. If you stay at the crease on this pitch it is possible to collect more than 300 easily.

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Today it is the 39 match of ICC world cup. It is between Sri Lanka and new Zealand match. Sri Lanka win is very important for Pakistan.If Sri Lanka defeats New Zealand, then Pakistan will be replaced in the semi-finals. Pakistan has full hope on Sri Lanka.That they will take Pakistan to the semi-finals.New Zealand  lose for Sri Lanka  very important of Pakistan team. Sri Lanka batsmen will have to struggle and work hard in today's match.If New Zealand wins this match, Pakistan will have to play with the run rate to win the match.And it will be very difficult for Pakistan.
Today's match is very important for three teams Sri Lanka, Pakistan and New Zealand. Sri Lanka wants to win today's match and stay in the top 8 of the points table. On the other hand, if New Zealand wins today's match by a big margin, the semi-final is almost guaranteed for them. Because the New Zealand team is in a much better position than Pakistan in terms of net run rate.

New Zealand won the toss and decided to field. New Zealand's bowlers picked up three wickets very quickly in the beginning. But they are giving plenty of runs. In 7 overs, Sri Lanka lost three wickets and collected 61 runs. Experienced bowlers like Tim Southee gave 35 runs in three overs and Boult took two wickets with 26 runs in 4 overs. The outfield is very fast today. If you stay at the crease on this pitch it is possible to collect more than 300 easily.

Despite losing three wickets, Kushal Perera is batting brilliantly today. He scored a fifty off just 22 balls. This is the fastest fifty by Sri Lankan batsmen. Sri Lanka's run rate is very good. But they lost wickets very quickly. Sri Lankan batsmen should have batted carefully at the beginning of the innings. The three top order batsmen returned to the dressing room with a total of 9 runs. Sri Lanka's run rate is good so far as Kusal Perera is playing well. But if Perera is out I think Sri Lankan Duttong will drop badly. Perera should play carefully. Perera should try to stay at the crease now.

Edit : Asalanka was out by Boult's delivery. Australia lost their fourth wicket by 70 runs. Now if Perera doesn't stay at the crease, I doubt Sri Lankan team will be able to collect 200 runs.

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November 09, 2023, 09:52:10 AM
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5 wickets have already fallen before Srilanka could even get to 100 runs. The last batting pair is on the pitch, if they lose their wickets then Srilanka would be in trouble. No one is expecting them to get 300 runs but they should try to get a honourable target for the New Zealand batters.

This match is just a waste of time, they are batting like ameatures. Only against Pakistan they had more than 300 runs on the scoreboard which got chased by Pakistani batters. If they lose today they won't qualify for the champions trophy.
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Today it is the 39 match of ICC world cup. It is between Sri Lanka and new Zealand match. Sri Lanka win is very important for Pakistan.If Sri Lanka defeats New Zealand, then Pakistan will be replaced in the semi-finals. Pakistan has full hope on Sri Lanka.That they will take Pakistan to the semi-finals.New Zealand  lose for Sri Lanka  very important of Pakistan team. Sri Lanka batsmen will have to struggle and work hard in today's match.If New Zealand wins this match, Pakistan will have to play with the run rate to win the match.And it will be very difficult for Pakistan.
Today's match is very important for three teams Sri Lanka, Pakistan and New Zealand. Sri Lanka wants to win today's match and stay in the top 8 of the points table. On the other hand, if New Zealand wins today's match by a big margin, the semi-final is almost guaranteed for them. Because the New Zealand team is in a much better position than Pakistan in terms of net run rate.
New Zealand won the toss and decided to field. New Zealand's bowlers picked up three wickets very quickly in the beginning. But they are giving plenty of runs. In 7 overs, Sri Lanka lost three wickets and collected 61 runs. Experienced bowlers like Tim Southee gave 35 runs in three overs and Boult took two wickets with 26 runs in 4 overs. The outfield is very fast today. If you stay at the crease on this pitch it is possible to collect more than 300 easily.
Despite losing three wickets, Kushal Perera is batting brilliantly today. He scored a fifty off just 22 balls. This is the fastest fifty by Sri Lankan batsmen. Sri Lanka's run rate is very good. But they lost wickets very quickly. Sri Lankan batsmen should have batted carefully at the beginning of the innings. The three top order batsmen returned to the dressing room with a total of 9 runs. Sri Lanka's run rate is good so far as Kusal Perera is playing well. But if Perera is out I think Sri Lankan Duttong will drop badly. Perera should play carefully. Perera should try to stay at the crease now.
Edit : Asalanka was out by Boult's delivery. Australia lost their fourth wicket by 70 runs. Now if Perera doesn't stay at the crease, I doubt Sri Lankan team will be able to collect 200 runs.

Sri Lanka team will be defeated badly in today's match as well. I did not expect to see such bad batting from the Sri Lankan batsmen on this pitch. I thought the match would be very competitive. And Sri Lanka will provide more than 300 targets. But even though they batted at a smart strike rate from the beginning of the innings, they lost wickets very quickly. The team lost 6 of their top order batsmen in just 18 overs. And Sri Lanka collected 105 runs in 18 overs. If Dhananjaya De Silva can't play big innings then Sri Lanka's innings won't be big either. Dhananjaya De Silva needs to bat responsibly and stay at the crease.

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OK.. so it is going to be really difficult for Pakistan to qualify for the semi-finals. Sri Lanka is struggling at 105/7. This means that New Zealand will walk away with 2 points from this match and will get a significant boost in their net run rate. Now Pakistan needs a similar win in their match against England, which is going to be extremely difficult. Also, remember that Pakistan's NRR (+0.036) is much lower than that of New Zealand (+0.398) at this moment. So it is almost impossible for Pakistan to qualify. New Zealand may face India in the semis.

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SL 107-7, again crumbling badly, NZ gonna surely win this by huge margin and may be the one qualifying for semis well.

Good thing from SL inning today was Perera's fifty.

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New Zealand won the toss and decided to field first. New Zealand's bowlers have been bowling brilliantly. None of the batsmen in Sri Lanka's first sari could play very well. sri lanka were 70 runs in 7 overs and run rate was close to nine decimals.kusal perera is batting brilliantly as he seems to be playing t20 style. If Kusal Perera could have batted for a while, maybe Sri Lanka's team's run would have increased a little. Sri Lanka team's current state of play looks like they will be all out within 170 runs. If New Zealand can bowl out Sri Lanka within 170 runs, then it will be very easy for New Zealand to win this match today.

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A very disappointing performance by the Sri Lankan batters. A poor short selection and some good length bowling did the trick for New Zealand. Sri Lanka is currently 8 wickets down on 114 runs after 25 overs. There are no chances of rain as of now. 150 from here looks like an impossible task.
I am feeling sad for Pakistan fans. They were hoping that somehow Sri Lanka would dominate New Zealand and win the match. Their only option -at the moment- is to pray for continuous rain until the call-off time. LOL  Cheesy

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2 overs remaining each for both Boult and Ferguson. The New Zealand captain maybe looking to take the remaining wicket with these bowlers. BTW, Sri Lanka just lost the 9th wicket, after Rachin Ravindra picked up the wicket of Dushmantha Chameera. Dilshan Madushanka has come to join Maheesh Theekshana at the crease and Sri Lanka are at 131/9. It has been an exceptional performance from New Zealand bowlers (especially from the pacers), after conceding 200 runs in 25 overs against Pakistan a few days ago. 

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2 overs remaining each for both Boult and Ferguson. The New Zealand captain maybe looking to take the remaining wicket with these bowlers. BTW, Sri Lanka just lost the 9th wicket, after Rachin Ravindra picked up the wicket of Dushmantha Chameera. Dilshan Madushanka has come to join Maheesh Theekshana at the crease and Sri Lanka are at 131/9. It has been an exceptional performance from New Zealand bowlers (especially from the pacers), after conceding 200 runs in 25 overs against Pakistan a few days ago. 

There is no doubt that Boult and Ferguson bowled well today. Sri Lanka's top order collapsed mainly due to Boult's brilliant bowling. But we didn't get a good performance from Southee today. He gave a lot of runs as usual in today's match. However, the overall performance of the New Zealand bowlers was very good today. But New Zealand's bowlers are facing a lot of problems to take the last few wickets. Maheesh Theeksana in particular is batting very responsibly. He is unbeaten by collecting 34 runs from 82 balls. After losing 7 wickets before 20 overs, I didn't think that Sri Lanka would be able to stay at the crease till 43 overs.

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OK.. so it is going to be really difficult for Pakistan to qualify for the semi-finals. Sri Lanka is struggling at 105/7. This means that New Zealand will walk away with 2 points from this match and will get a significant boost in their net run rate. Now Pakistan needs a similar win in their match against England, which is going to be extremely difficult. Also, remember that Pakistan's NRR (+0.036) is much lower than that of New Zealand (+0.398) at this moment. So it is almost impossible for Pakistan to qualify. New Zealand may face India in the semis.

Three teams have confirmed the semi-finals of the ongoing ODI World Cup. After India, Australia, South Africa, New Zealand, Pakistan and Afghanistan are well in the race to reach the semis as the fourth team. Bangladesh, Sri Lanka are fighting to secure a place in the 2025 Champions Trophy as they will be fighting to secure a semi-final spot. Pakistan will have the biggest advantage if Sri Lanka can beat New Zealand today. In that case, Babar-Rizwan will go to the semi-finals even if they win against England on the 11th. Because, it is very impossible to go to the semifinals of Afghanistan by topping Pakistan. 171 (46.4) all out Sri Lanka. New Zealand target 172 I think they will win this match very easily and confirm semi final.
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Collapse was cute but look at the bright side they successfully avoided the 3rd under 100 scorelines in 2023, so that's some improvement and doing so their tail wagged at the right time and managed to irritate the opposition bowlers and also added extra runs on the board, now bowlers will have something to fight.

If they get lucky under the lights then maybe we'll have a tight finish otherwise it should be an easy chase for the kiwis. Having said that we've seen some funny cricket in this edition so you never know.

 

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