Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[noormcs5]

I agree, I happened to stumble on a casino that has no KYC on their terms and conditions but on the separate document of terms of privacy, they had this clause of right to gather user information such as full name, address etc.. and the requirement of ID submission.  That is plainly deceiving the players by creating another form of agreement through privacy terms.  So I guess  casino players must not only browse the Terms and conditions but also other documents that has something to do with casino players ' terms of agreement.

Thanks for sharing this experience. I never thought this possibility since I only use find function on ToS to locate the KYC claus of the casino.

I think it will be helpful to remember golden rule with regards to KYC that every casino with license to operate are deemed to ask KYC since it's the law requirements while casino that doesn't have license that still ask for KYC is doing unregulated way on gathering user information since they are not allowed to that unless the law dictates it.

Yeah, if KYC is a big concern for you, then you must read all the terms of services, privacy and every other link which takes you to the documentation of the casino. Also, if possible better see the reviews of the people and confirm if they are being able to withdraw with KYC and they are not asked for the KYC later. You need to do this research before playing at the casino, else you may face an awkward situation where you would not be able to withdraw, unless you do your KYC.

On the other hand, if KYC is not a problem for you, then be ready with all the KYC documents, as the non-KYC casino can ask for KYC anytime especially when you try to withdraw any big amount from the casino.

[Fatunad]

I agree, I happened to stumble on a casino that has no KYC on their terms and conditions but on the separate document of terms of privacy, they had this clause of right to gather user information such as full name, address etc.. and the requirement of ID submission.  That is plainly deceiving the players by creating another form of agreement through privacy terms.  So I guess  casino players must not only browse the Terms and conditions but also other documents that has something to do with casino players ' terms of agreement.

Thanks for sharing this experience. I never thought this possibility since I only use find function on ToS to locate the KYC claus of the casino.

I think it will be helpful to remember golden rule with regards to KYC that every casino with license to operate are deemed to ask KYC since it's the law requirements while casino that doesn't have license that still ask for KYC is doing unregulated way on gathering user information since they are not allowed to that unless the law dictates it.

Yeah, if KYC is a big concern for you, then you must read all the terms of services, privacy and every other link which takes you to the documentation of the casino. Also, if possible better see the reviews of the people and confirm if they are being able to withdraw with KYC and they are not asked for the KYC later. You need to do this research before playing at the casino, else you may face an awkward situation where you would not be able to withdraw, unless you do your KYC.

On the other hand, if KYC is not a problem for you, then be ready with all the KYC documents, as the non-KYC casino can ask for KYC anytime especially when you try to withdraw any big amount from the casino.

Research and in depth pointing out of those important information should really be something that you would really be trying out to check because if you do just making yourself in a hurry to play without even trying to look with those information and then it would really be just shocking you at the end that you cant really be able to pull out your funds because something like this and like that. Majority of the platforms that we do have today arent asking out some upfront KYC but they could really be possibly be able to ask out on the time that they would see someone who had violate their terms and conditions on which it would really be just that a normal approach or kind of act for them to do so. Trying out to make some argumentation basing up on what they have done? As long you dont be able to read up their terms and conditions since from the start
then you would really be having that guilt or something that odd feeling on trying out to fight for your right even if you are aware or wary that you have missed out on reading those things in the first place.
Gambling platforms are really that centralized and its really just normal that chances or tendency that they would be asking out that kind of verification on the time that they do see something.

[yahoo62278]

It's really unfair and frustrating. It can lead to players being unable to withdraw their winnings even if they have won fairly.

To be honest many gambling websites have such easy registration system. No business whats to give their potential customers some hard time and risk to lose the customer.

Even with some of the fiat casinos [as far as I can remember] you will not be asked for anything before even depositing. When you will try to withdraw winning then they will ask for a full KYC.

As some others already suggested, read terms and conditions. There are nothing to feel unfair. You will feel frustrated if you fail to understand the contract between a casino and you.

You are correct in saying that no business wants to give their potential customers a hard time, but you think it's fine for them to not ask KYC and let you deposit only to give the customer a hard time later?

I would rather if KYC is required that they do it before I make any sort of deposit. Yes, people should read the ToS, but how many actually do?

[MadHatters]

Uo I think it would be fair to usually ask for identity cases when making a very large withdrawal and it is to see who you are dealing with and verifications that they usually ask for once and it is a regulation that is within the license

[LUCKMCFLY]

I agree, I happened to stumble on a casino that has no KYC on their terms and conditions but on the separate document of terms of privacy, they had this clause of right to gather user information such as full name, address etc.. and the requirement of ID submission.  That is plainly deceiving the players by creating another form of agreement through privacy terms.  So I guess  casino players must not only browse the Terms and conditions but also other documents that has something to do with casino players ' terms of agreement.

Thanks for sharing this experience. I never thought this possibility since I only use find function on ToS to locate the KYC claus of the casino.

I think it will be helpful to remember golden rule with regards to KYC that every casino with license to operate are deemed to ask KYC since it's the law requirements while casino that doesn't have license that still ask for KYC is doing unregulated way on gathering user information since they are not allowed to that unless the law dictates it.

It is always a problem when it comes to games of chance, about the things that must be done when we are registering in a casino, the ugly task of reading almost carefully so as not to get into trouble because of the Tosses, or knowing how to defend ourselves. Faced with any problem, when there are clauses of this style it is like playing dirty against the player, because only with that is it enough to grab and demand KYC, and given that now the issue is based on KYC, doing some things that they do not want what the players do, because that is something that is presented, in this case it is angry to do it, because if they promote something that is not true, it is angry, in my case when I play, I always like to be present when they tell me that there is no type of problem with KYC.

The Kyc for many players is the main obstacle to being able to make withdrawals is that, the KYC, so if they ask for it they must be sincere, as I have said in many threads, they should rather say that they need to do a good KYC before the deposit, because then The player is well prepared, at this point things can present themselves this way, so that they are not deceived, so we must consider all these things.

When a casino is sincere or there is a problem , they must do it , because before Making any deposit, if the KYC is done and it is confirmed that it is okay, then they should provide the address to make a deposit, this is what we must always demand, Only once I entered a casino to be able to withdraw, they asked me for KYC, and with all my anger I had to do it, but that was long before the boom in which KYC became an obligation , something that It didn't seem like it to me, currently things are very focused on KYC and the way of doing things for that, that's why I would like all of us to decide how things are, my advice will always be to be able to do the KYC to be Able to have more Easy withdrawal Options , but at the most Reliable Casinos.

[slapper]

I agree, I happened to stumble on a casino that has no KYC on their terms and conditions but on the separate document of terms of privacy, they had this clause of right to gather user information such as full name, address etc.. and the requirement of ID submission.  That is plainly deceiving the players by creating another form of agreement through privacy terms.  So I guess  casino players must not only browse the Terms and conditions but also other documents that has something to do with casino players ' terms of agreement.

Thanks for sharing this experience. I never thought this possibility since I only use find function on ToS to locate the KYC claus of the casino.

I think it will be helpful to remember golden rule with regards to KYC that every casino with license to operate are deemed to ask KYC since it's the law requirements while casino that doesn't have license that still ask for KYC is doing unregulated way on gathering user information since they are not allowed to that unless the law dictates it.

It is always a problem when it comes to games of chance, about the things that must be done when we are registering in a casino, the ugly task of reading almost carefully so as not to get into trouble because of the Tosses, or knowing how to defend ourselves. Faced with any problem, when there are clauses of this style it is like playing dirty against the player, because only with that is it enough to grab and demand KYC, and given that now the issue is based on KYC, doing some things that they do not want what the players do, because that is something that is presented, in this case it is angry to do it, because if they promote something that is not true, it is angry, in my case when I play, I always like to be present when they tell me that there is no type of problem with KYC.

The Kyc for many players is the main obstacle to being able to make withdrawals is that, the KYC, so if they ask for it they must be sincere, as I have said in many threads, they should rather say that they need to do a good KYC before the deposit, because then The player is well prepared, at this point things can present themselves this way, so that they are not deceived, so we must consider all these things.

When a casino is sincere or there is a problem , they must do it , because before Making any deposit, if the KYC is done and it is confirmed that it is okay, then they should provide the address to make a deposit, this is what we must always demand, Only once I entered a casino to be able to withdraw, they asked me for KYC, and with all my anger I had to do it, but that was long before the boom in which KYC became an obligation , something that It didn't seem like it to me, currently things are very focused on KYC and the way of doing things for that, that's why I would like all of us to decide how things are, my advice will always be to be able to do the KYC to be Able to have more Easy withdrawal Options , but at the most Reliable Casinos.

Yeah, I do have a problem with these casinos. Your annoyance? I can feel it in my body. Making us go through a lot of trouble just to get our money seems like a sneaky plan to me. This act of hiding KYC standards really bothers me; it feels like a nasty surprise waiting to happen. I've been caught off guard, and I know how angry that makes you.

Try not to be victims. I agree that prior KYC checks are wise and strategic. KYC first makes sense, right? Take charge and demand respect and transparency. We must get what we want, right? We play games we like, not their rules. Players, the lifeblood of casinos, must change things and recover power.


For the change we want to see, we must work together, raise our voice. It's our money, our freedom, and the fun we're having. No one wants the excitement and fun of online gambling destroyed by strange and stupid KYC procedure. It's high time we got what we deserve

[8rch7]

All gambling site won't profitable for their costumer and required with KYC when withdrawing fund will make costumer face difficult, important for gambler if won't their data or document keep privacy never try with gambling site if worry when withdrawing later requirement with KYC. Have one possibility if won't KYC and withdrawing still process make withdrawing with few amount under $500 and seems gambling platform not required with KYC.

On the other hand, if KYC is not a problem for you, then be ready with all the KYC documents, as the non-KYC casino can ask for KYC anytime especially when you try to withdraw any big amount from the casino.

Withdrawing big amount always get problem for all gambling platform, its not problem with KYC level until upload document ID and selfie picture but some gambling site we need upload document proof until book bank raising KYC level four if want withdraw big amount.

[ethereumhunter]

All gambling site won't profitable for their costumer and required with KYC when withdrawing fund will make costumer face difficult, important for gambler if won't their data or document keep privacy never try with gambling site if worry when withdrawing later requirement with KYC. Have one possibility if won't KYC and withdrawing still process make withdrawing with few amount under $500 and seems gambling platform not required with KYC.

It has become commonplace for casinos to ask their customers to do KYC. Casinos also only follow the regulations of the regulator and try to implement them well. If customers don't want to do KYC at that casino, they can look for it at another casino because some still allow their customers not to do KYC. But customers must also understand that there are limits to how they can continue to gamble and withdraw their money because if customers want to withdraw larger amounts of money, they have to do KYC for further checks. And it will be up to the customers to choose it.

[coinerer]

There's what you fail to understand.... They've got T/C's and that should be Thier modus operandi..yeahh? Anything outside that isn't accountable to them... There's no casino that'll hide Thier KYC preference and remind of it when you wanna withdraw... They won't just bother you or make it compulsory at the start,...but ofcourse that gives everyone the privilege to think of boycotting their rules, that's also exactly where the problem comes...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Many casino sites advertise themselves as no kyc sites to attract gamblers.  But since they do business with a license they won't give you a chance to withdraw huge amount without kyc because then many people can launder thousands of crores anonymously.  But when someone does kyc, even if they do huge transactions, if any illegal activity is found, that person can be tracked according to his kyc documents.  So no one gives you complete kyc free service in gambling industry

[348Judah]

All gambling site won't profitable for their costumer and required with KYC when withdrawing fund will make costumer face difficult, important for gambler if won't their data or document keep privacy never try with gambling site if worry when withdrawing later requirement with KYC. Have one possibility if won't KYC and withdrawing still process make withdrawing with few amount under $500 and seems gambling platform not required with KYC.

On the other hand, if KYC is not a problem for you, then be ready with all the KYC documents, as the non-KYC casino can ask for KYC anytime especially when you try to withdraw any big amount from the casino.

Withdrawing big amount always get problem for all gambling platform, its not problem with KYC level until upload document ID and selfie picture but some gambling site we need upload document proof until book bank raising KYC level four if want withdraw big amount.

There's no problem with making withdrawal from the casinos irrespective of the amount you want to withdraw as long as you have every required documents and information needed for that stage, the process are direction and the procedures are simple, if you have the opportunity to use a non KYC casinos then make your decision if you think you will have issues with the KYC verification processes, most of the casinos will not require kyc until they find you on their request for making withdrawal, they will request for kyc because they are centralized and operates under such, it's not possible that they changed from a no KYC casino to kyc casino just because of your own sake, it's either a casino supports kyc or it does not.

[Synchronice]

It's really unfair and frustrating. It can lead to players being unable to withdraw their winnings even if they have won fairly.

To be honest many gambling websites have such easy registration system. No business whats to give their potential customers some hard time and risk to lose the customer.

Even with some of the fiat casinos [as far as I can remember] you will not be asked for anything before even depositing. When you will try to withdraw winning then they will ask for a full KYC.

As some others already suggested, read terms and conditions. There are nothing to feel unfair. You will feel frustrated if you fail to understand the contract between a casino and you.

You are correct in saying that no business wants to give their potential customers a hard time, but you think it's fine for them to not ask KYC and let you deposit only to give the customer a hard time later?

I would rather if KYC is required that they do it before I make any sort of deposit. Yes, people should read the ToS, but how many actually do?

You are right, it's definitely better to ask for KYC when user registers instead of asking it when user tries to withdraw money. To be honest, I think that 99% of casinos act like this (deposit first, KYC later when you decide to withdraw) because there is a chance user will leave funds on casino and not do KYC, the chance is especially big if user doesn't have to withdraw a lot of money. If they really care about money laundering, then why do they accept coins without KYC in the first place? C'mon, sadly, law is on their side. It drives me crazy when even governments push them to implement KYC but don't care when a data of their own citizens gets leaked.

[Lanatsa]

I agree, I happened to stumble on a casino that has no KYC on their terms and conditions but on the separate document of terms of privacy, they had this clause of right to gather user information such as full name, address etc.. and the requirement of ID submission.  That is plainly deceiving the players by creating another form of agreement through privacy terms.  So I guess  casino players must not only browse the Terms and conditions but also other documents that has something to do with casino players ' terms of agreement.

Thanks for sharing this experience. I never thought this possibility since I only use find function on ToS to locate the KYC claus of the casino.

I think it will be helpful to remember golden rule with regards to KYC that every casino with license to operate are deemed to ask KYC since it's the law requirements while casino that doesn't have license that still ask for KYC is doing unregulated way on gathering user information since they are not allowed to that unless the law dictates it.

It is always a problem when it comes to games of chance, about the things that must be done when we are registering in a casino, the ugly task of reading almost carefully so as not to get into trouble because of the Tosses, or knowing how to defend ourselves. Faced with any problem, when there are clauses of this style it is like playing dirty against the player, because only with that is it enough to grab and demand KYC, and given that now the issue is based on KYC, doing some things that they do not want what the players do, because that is something that is presented, in this case it is angry to do it, because if they promote something that is not true, it is angry, in my case when I play, I always like to be present when they tell me that there is no type of problem with KYC.

The Kyc for many players is the main obstacle to being able to make withdrawals is that, the KYC, so if they ask for it they must be sincere, as I have said in many threads, they should rather say that they need to do a good KYC before the deposit, because then The player is well prepared, at this point things can present themselves this way, so that they are not deceived, so we must consider all these things.

When a casino is sincere or there is a problem , they must do it , because before Making any deposit, if the KYC is done and it is confirmed that it is okay, then they should provide the address to make a deposit, this is what we must always demand, Only once I entered a casino to be able to withdraw, they asked me for KYC, and with all my anger I had to do it, but that was long before the boom in which KYC became an obligation , something that It didn't seem like it to me, currently things are very focused on KYC and the way of doing things for that, that's why I would like all of us to decide how things are, my advice will always be to be able to do the KYC to be Able to have more Easy withdrawal Options , but at the most Reliable Casinos.

Yeah, I do have a problem with these casinos. Your annoyance? I can feel it in my body. Making us go through a lot of trouble just to get our money seems like a sneaky plan to me. This act of hiding KYC standards really bothers me; it feels like a nasty surprise waiting to happen. I've been caught off guard, and I know how angry that makes you.

Try not to be victims. I agree that prior KYC checks are wise and strategic. KYC first makes sense, right? Take charge and demand respect and transparency. We must get what we want, right? We play games we like, not their rules. Players, the lifeblood of casinos, must change things and recover power.


For the change we want to see, we must work together, raise our voice. It's our money, our freedom, and the fun we're having. No one wants the excitement and fun of online gambling destroyed by strange and stupid KYC procedure. It's high time we got what we deserve

Whether we do like it or not but still we would really be still abiding on what are the rules and conditions that they have set specially if your funds been locked up then there's nothing you can do but to comply on whats been asked even if you do say that you do really value your information or personal identification that much but since we are talking about money then it would really become in your least priority which its not really that a shocking thing. This is why it would really be always ideal that you should really make yourself that prepared on whatever possible cimcumstances that you might experience yet we know that they are really the ones who get a hold of our funding and on the time that we do make out some huge win then they would really be having that high chance on asking out for some verification. Actually its not really that hard to comply about with those needed information specially if it is really that our money is being locked.

I agree with those suggestions that if you dont like on experiencing some potential problems such as this then it would be better that you do go and play into those sites which are known
on having no kyc on the time that you do pull out big amounts into their platform. All of casinos wont really be asking out kyc on the time that you do make out deposits
and shady ones are the only places that will really be asking out on the time that you do withdraw even if the amount isnt really that significant.

[Odusko]

I would rather if KYC is required that they do it before I make any sort of deposit. Yes, people should read the ToS, but how many actually do?

Not many actually take out the time to read the TOS of a casino before they go ahead with account creation and possibly making deposits and thereafter encounter problems that may be difficult for them to handle and afterward cry out like babies, most gambling site have their tos clearly published on their website so no gambler have the moral right to accuse a casino for jot allowing them to withdraw when they already mentioned what requirement you need to meet before having your withdrawal processed.
So basically if a casino will ask for KYC either at the point of account creation or ask for it later it is all stated in the tos as to when to expect KYC and what you should be asked for for the verification processes.

[suzanne5223]

Not many actually take out the time to read the TOS of a casino before they go ahead with account creation and possibly making deposits and thereafter encounter problems that may be difficult for them to handle and afterward cry out like babies, most gambling site have their tos clearly published on their website so no gambler have the moral right to accuse a casino for jot allowing them to withdraw when they already mentioned what requirement you need to meet before having your withdrawal processed.

We have a situation where some gamblers don't read the casino TOS but don't forget we also have a situation where the casino breached their TOS and made a false excuse just to scam their users.
Therefore, I suggest gamblers first be sure about the honesty of the casino service, and read the TOS, minimum, and Maximum (deposit and withdraw). These are mostly what causes scam accusations of casinos.

So basically if a casino will ask for KYC either at the point of account creation or ask for it later it is all stated in the tos as to when to expect KYC and what you should be asked for for the verification processes.

This is only applicable to fair and honest casinos. Some lied in their TOS just to attract more ftds.

[dezoel]

Uo I think it would be fair to usually ask for identity cases when making a very large withdrawal and it is to see who you are dealing with and verifications that they usually ask for once and it is a regulation that is within the license

It would be fair if they were transparent about it from the start, and didn't tell their customers that they won't ask for KYC at any point during their stay at the casino. In that case, if they ask for KYC during a withdrawal, there is nothing wrong with that. However, if they have said that they won't ask for KYC from their customers no matter what happens, and then if they start asking for KYC verification at the time of withdrawal, that is not really fair to the players.

Most casinos these days that are operating under a license would ask for KYC verification at some point and they don't mention anything about it beforehand, though they will have it in their terms and conditions and most gamblers don't really read the terms and conditions unless they get in trouble.

[fapar]

There's what you fail to understand.... They've got T/C's and that should be Thier modus operandi..yeahh? Anything outside that isn't accountable to them... There's no casino that'll hide Thier KYC preference and remind of it when you wanna withdraw... They won't just bother you or make it compulsory at the start,...but ofcourse that gives everyone the privilege to think of boycotting their rules, that's also exactly where the problem comes...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

Many casino sites advertise themselves as no kyc sites to attract gamblers.  But since they do business with a license they won't give you a chance to withdraw huge amount without kyc because then many people can launder thousands of crores anonymously.  But when someone does kyc, even if they do huge transactions, if any illegal activity is found, that person can be tracked according to his kyc documents.  So no one gives you complete kyc free service in gambling industry

This is a clear example of the problem of centralization. Earlier, the guys correctly noted that the casino and the company that created it are licensed and officially registered in any country. If the user violates the law, the casino may also be held liable before the law. Until there are truly decentralized casinos (similar to DEX), we will be faced with the requirement of KYC/AML.

[Maestro75]

There's what you fail to understand.... They've got T/C's and that should be Thier modus operandi..yeahh? Anything outside that isn't accountable to them... There's no casino that'll hide Thier KYC preference and remind of it when you wanna withdraw... They won't just bother you or make it compulsory at the start,...but ofcourse that gives everyone the privilege to think of boycotting their rules, that's also exactly where the problem comes...

Sandra 🧑‍🦰

What you said about no casino hiding its KYC policy may not be completely true. We know there are bad operators among the casino operators and this bad ones can hide their TC in very lengthy written articles because they know that many customers do not like to read such article to the end. No one want to waste time struggling to read things that are tiny. Those who do not read TC will not know what is there and what to expect from the casino, whether there is a KYC or not and that can make them conclude that there was never a KYC from the beginning.

[coolcoinz]

This is a clear example of the problem of centralization. Earlier, the guys correctly noted that the casino and the company that created it are licensed and officially registered in any country. If the user violates the law, the casino may also be held liable before the law. Until there are truly decentralized casinos (similar to DEX), we will be faced with the requirement of KYC/AML.

I hate what people allowed running a business to become. We've allowed them to turn us into slaves drowning in paperwork and red tape.
You should be allowed to run a business whenever and however you want. If the business is inefficient, losing you money, scamming customers, it's all on you. If they come at you with pitchforks, there's nothing anybody can do to defend you.

Clients should demand full transparency from a business and if there's not enough of it, they should go somewhere else. That's how free market should work. Instead the business owner has to treat every customer like a potential criminal and act like the police on behalf of the government. This has to change.

[ScamViruS]

This is a clear example of the problem of centralization. Earlier, the guys correctly noted that the casino and the company that created it are licensed and officially registered in any country. If the user violates the law, the casino may also be held liable before the law. Until there are truly decentralized casinos (similar to DEX), we will be faced with the requirement of KYC/AML.

Because of this KYC verification, many gamblers have to think a lot while selecting a gambling website. There are many gamblers who try to do various illegal activities using gambling websites, due to which other gamblers also have to do KYC verification due to this problem. It is a brutal fact that when a gambler wins huge on a gambling website, that gambling website will try their best to find any excuse to block the withdrawal of that gambler. So a gambler then has nothing to do but wait for the decision of that gambling website, because KYC verification is then forced on those gamblers.

[Fortify]

Just a warning in case it prevents someone from falling into this shitty scheme.

I was checking a crypto-casino with very easy entry just asking email and country, and allowed deposits in the main cryptos. I didn't need to deposit anything to realize that to withdraw funds they did require a complete KYC with ID, etc. I also tested registering from a banned country and even indicating it on the form, and it does not prevent you from making a deposit.

I guess I stated the obvious, but I don't see the point for gamblers in using this.
 
EDIT
I'll share the site since so much people is asking, but I guess this is usual:
https://elroyalecasinobonuses.com/ with a referal who leads you to the domain you'll be logged

In FAQ you find it clearly: https://elroyalecasinobonuses.com/faq/

Do I have to submit any documents when depositing money?
There are no documents needed for making a deposit at El Royale Casino. However, in some rare cases, we might ask you to provide a Credit Card Validation form to ensure the safety of your transactions.

How do I request a payout?
After you have submitted all the necessary documents for proving your identity, you will be able to request a payout in the Cashier section of your account. If you are using your mobile device, you need to go to “Menu,” and then to the section “Payout”.

El Royale is operated by Wonder Play Company N.V. having its office in Willemstad, Curacao. Company Registration number 162233.

When a user makes an aggregate lifetime total of deposits exceeding USD 2000 or requests a withdrawal of any amount at El Royale, they are obliged to undergo a full KYC procedure, wherein the user shall submit some basic details about themselves and then upload the files listed below:

A copy of Government Issued Photo ID (in some cases front and back depending on the doc)
A selfie of themselves holding the ID doc
A bank statement/Utility Bill

Yeah, pretty fair: give me 2K with no questions, but you won't be able to get a penny without fulfilling the rules. I'ts a regulatory joke. Even is a gambler trap: " I'll try to make it a big ammount so it's worth it to do the paperwork, then you loose. Unacceptable

While you could classify it as shitty behaviour, we are at a point now where everyone should expect identity verification when doing something like gambling. It is historically a notorious sector for money laundering so they get some of the strictest rules enforced against them and every player should expect to be asked for it. Besides that there are other things like very generous financial bonuses that they give away, which only work if they know the players genuine and unique, so many people try to abuse these things. There are plenty of good reasons for KYC, but you're right that they should be upfront about requiring it or at least state any limits they might impose.