Casinos not asking for KYC to register and play, but do require it to withdraw

[Taskford]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

Well, being reputable doesn't mean one's data cannot be leaked in your domain. The casino's management may not know about it, it could be some bad employee(s), and truly, data are being leaked for money daily and it's enough reason to answer your question, some people will indeed be scared because of this. However, I see no reason why a gambler who signed up with a KYC casino should not complete the KYC, after all, he knew before signing up there. Better still, he can move to the no-KYC casino if he is afraid of the KYC, and if the no-KYC casino later becomes a KYC type, he can still abandon them and move to the next. There are decentralised casinos as well, they will never ask you for the KYC, so why not go there to avoid issues of the KYC?

We can always move from a KYC casino to a non KYC casino when we noticed that the casino we are using to bet has become a KYC casino. But sometimes we might enjoy the company and the fun we do get from the casino especially when we have been using it for a very long time before it became a KYC casino. Also since we have been using the particular casino for a while now, we could have some funds there that could make us think otherwise. This could be a critical decision that will need continuous agitations before we decide to either stop using the casino or abide by the new terms and conditions that require all users to do their KYC.

The problem exist on non KYC compliant casino is their reputation, if they can really provide secured platform to their gamblers give them peace of mind regarding on scams and other matters that can compromised them. Compare on reputable and compliant casino which already been tested by many also we trust is they can offer convenience also we can make sure that everything is fine. So I'd rather choose those reputable and comply to KYC asked since we can assure that we are safe, away from potential scam and also we can assure that we can get our gains especially if we talk about winning huge profit playing in their casino.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I agree with you. It's also possible that gamblers can develop paranoia about revealing their identity.

Sometimes we accept the fact that a KYC is the most Normal thing in the World but we do not realize the importance of our data, and to give importance to the fact that in the world not everyone is a good person , that there is humanity , that anonymity always helps protect us from everything in some way, then starting from that point is my basis in saying that we as we use Casinos where we Handle money through BTC , and Crypto , it is much better to stay like this without data, the important Thing is to play, the data and all this is so that in some way they give it to the Countries to see them as active citizens and then demand taxes from them , and so on, without counting the possibility of the casinos being Hacked.

[EarnOnVictor]

Can someone name the reason or reasons why you would not pass KYC in casino? One thing that a person is afraid because he isnt sure that casino will keep documents secured and they wont leak somewhere. Other thing is that people, I dont know, are afraid to reveal their identity because gambling is illegal in their country, or they want to keep that in secret. For first category, I think people just need to choose reputed casinos. For second category of gamblers, honestly, I dont know what to suggest except gamble when they are abroad.

Well, being reputable doesn't mean one's data cannot be leaked in your domain. The casino's management may not know about it, it could be some bad employee(s), and truly, data are being leaked for money daily and it's enough reason to answer your question, some people will indeed be scared because of this. However, I see no reason why a gambler who signed up with a KYC casino should not complete the KYC, after all, he knew before signing up there. Better still, he can move to the no-KYC casino if he is afraid of the KYC, and if the no-KYC casino later becomes a KYC type, he can still abandon them and move to the next. There are decentralised casinos as well, they will never ask you for the KYC, so why not go there to avoid issues of the KYC?

We can always move from a KYC casino to a non KYC casino when we noticed that the casino we are using to bet has become a KYC casino. But sometimes we might enjoy the company and the fun we do get from the casino especially when we have been using it for a very long time before it became a KYC casino. Also since we have been using the particular casino for a while now, we could have some funds there that could make us think otherwise. This could be a critical decision that will need continuous agitations before we decide to either stop using the casino or abide by the new terms and conditions that require all users to do their KYC.

I don't have any issues with the KYC casinos and I complete my KYC as and when necessary which is often immediately after registering with the casino. This is the best practice before you make your first deposit and I have never had any cause to regret doing that to date. But there are some people who are particular about their identities or are not just ready to complete the KYC due to whatever reason, we need to respect that. They should have carefully observed that from the beginning, they do not even need to try the casino as you said but learn about them first and ask their support questions about the KYC before proceeding to join them.

But these days, the no-KYC casinos that some of them join later move to KYC casinos. This could be because some regulators are truly on their necks, but in many cases, the casinos do that to target some good gamblers who win regularly or withdraw big. Now tell me, who is deceiving who when the no-KYC can't even save some people? This is why I advise that if anyone would prefer not to complete the KYC, the best bet is to go for the decentralised casino. It is not necessarily to be with centralised casinos if that is what you want no matter what they offer.

[Supun221]

OK, ot was probably when I was being more active in my deposits and withdrawals that started to casino to notice. I wasn't doing anything "shady", I merely didn't want to keep me coins in the casino for more than 24 hours. It's not that I don't trust the casino, it's just because we were given a feature of self-custody by Bitcoin.

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Almost every gambling site out there(FIAT and Crypto) hates it when customers keep withdrawing frequently from their sites, but love it when customers keep depositing regularly which is the sad reality.

This is why they use shitty tactics like enforcing KYC etc in order to try and slow down the withdrawals.

The problem is that many casinos claim in their advertisements that KYC is not required. However, it is not explained there that KYC is not required only for registration. However, KYC is required at the first withdrawal attempt.
This is unfair to users in my opinion.

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[shasan]

To be honest if you only look at the side of a project holding marketing with signature campaigns is also something that is not the main reason that he has that credibility, we know that 1xbit held it on the forum to get some good reviews about them but they cheated after they really got the market do forum.

So we need to also look at other aspects to make us more confident that a casino is safe to use.

The presence of the 1xbit has changed as they have stopped the signature campaign on the forum. The presence of the site has decreased at the same time the scam accusations and the activity of scams have decreased and hopefully think it will not change anymore in the future.

[bangjoe]

To be honest if you only look at the side of a project holding marketing with signature campaigns is also something that is not the main reason that he has that credibility, we know that 1xbit held it on the forum to get some good reviews about them but they cheated after they really got the market do forum.

So we need to also look at other aspects to make us more confident that a casino is safe to use.

The presence of the 1xbit has changed as they have stopped the signature campaign on the forum. The presence of the site has decreased at the same time the scam accusations and the activity of scams have decreased and hopefully think it will not change anymore in the future.

I also remember that they still do marketing even though their problems are still not resolved on the forum, and there are still many accounts working for that casino, this proves that it is also not a condition for judging a casino if only speculating about marketing.

Exactly every complaint should be resolved, no matter who complains to them to keep the trust of their customers, but the fact is, and they think it's crazy to do that, it's a stupid decision.

[arwin100]

To be honest if you only look at the side of a project holding marketing with signature campaigns is also something that is not the main reason that he has that credibility, we know that 1xbit held it on the forum to get some good reviews about them but they cheated after they really got the market do forum.

So we need to also look at other aspects to make us more confident that a casino is safe to use.

The presence of the 1xbit has changed as they have stopped the signature campaign on the forum. The presence of the site has decreased at the same time the scam accusations and the activity of scams have decreased and hopefully think it will not change anymore in the future.

I also remember that they still do marketing even though their problems are still not resolved on the forum, and there are still many accounts working for that casino, this proves that it is also not a condition for judging a casino if only speculating about marketing.

Exactly every complaint should be resolved, no matter who complains to them to keep the trust of their customers, but the fact is, and they think it's crazy to do that, it's a stupid decision.

Maybe they think about they can still convince people to gamble its because they are active doing those marketing here. But they made a huge damage to the community and they receive a lot of criticism then also lots of people always brought up their issues and other negative situations has been done by their casino. That's why lots of people avoid to gamble in their casino since they see how people react and give feedbacks about their past actions done here.

If other casino don't want to experience what 1xbit get, they should perform more better and always catch the interest of people since this will generate them a lot of profit especially if gamblers would find their platform as reliable online casino which is good to spend their time and money.

[shasan]

I also remember that they still do marketing even though their problems are still not resolved on the forum, and there are still many accounts working for that casino, this proves that it is also not a condition for judging a casino if only speculating about marketing.

Exactly every complaint should be resolved, no matter who complains to them to keep the trust of their customers, but the fact is, and they think it's crazy to do that, it's a stupid decision.

Are they still marketing? I have tried to know whether they are promoting or not. But I have not found any place for their promotion. So, I think they have stopped promoting it. I think it has happened as they have no benefit by their promotion as there is already a huge negative marketing on the forum which has affected their business.

[Taskford]

I also remember that they still do marketing even though their problems are still not resolved on the forum, and there are still many accounts working for that casino, this proves that it is also not a condition for judging a casino if only speculating about marketing.

Exactly every complaint should be resolved, no matter who complains to them to keep the trust of their customers, but the fact is, and they think it's crazy to do that, it's a stupid decision.

Are they still marketing? I have tried to know whether they are promoting or not. But I have not found any place for their promotion. So, I think they have stopped promoting it. I think it has happened as they have no benefit by their promotion as there is already a huge negative marketing on the forum which has affected their business.

I guess they are promoting their casino thru articles since see some articles created dedicated to their casino so provably this is their new tactics to attract new people to gamble in their casino.

Sample of article I see for reference https://www.besoccer.com/new/1xbit-promo-code-csxb-no-deposit-bonus-and-free-spins-review-1328651

This mean they are still active and just lurking around waiting for new people to try their casino, then after they get the trust of those people then we provably know what will happen next since they have bad reputation for doing scams.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

I also remember that they still do marketing even though their problems are still not resolved on the forum, and there are still many accounts working for that casino, this proves that it is also not a condition for judging a casino if only speculating about marketing.

Exactly every complaint should be resolved, no matter who complains to them to keep the trust of their customers, but the fact is, and they think it's crazy to do that, it's a stupid decision.

Are they still marketing? I have tried to know whether they are promoting or not. But I have not found any place for their promotion. So, I think they have stopped promoting it. I think it has happened as they have no benefit by their promotion as there is already a huge negative marketing on the forum which has affected their business.

If you guys are talking about 1xbit, 1xbit stopped promoting their brand on this forum a long time ago, like over a year now or more, but yeah, at the time when they were still advertising here, they had alot of complaints from customers, scam accusations and multiple flags, from both reputable and high ranking members of this community, all of those accusations, flags were not attended to, or paid attention to by the management of 1xbit, until DT members began tagging all users account that wear the 1xbit signature, at this point, their advertising on this forum become useless since they were no longer getting any traffic or customers from here, they did tried but at the end of the day, they had to leave the forum.

I still see 1xbit ads on some sites like coinmarketcap and the rest, but that is more expensive for sure, and I guess less productive than when they were advertising here.

[EarnOnVictor]

I also remember that they still do marketing even though their problems are still not resolved on the forum, and there are still many accounts working for that casino, this proves that it is also not a condition for judging a casino if only speculating about marketing.

Exactly every complaint should be resolved, no matter who complains to them to keep the trust of their customers, but the fact is, and they think it's crazy to do that, it's a stupid decision.

Are they still marketing? I have tried to know whether they are promoting or not. But I have not found any place for their promotion. So, I think they have stopped promoting it. I think it has happened as they have no benefit by their promotion as there is already a huge negative marketing on the forum which has affected their business.

Yes, if it's on the forum, they've stopped promoting it entirely since last year but I pity those who campaigned for them, they both lost their forum reputation and I wonder if they paid them eventually, especially the last promoting work they did for them when allegations and attacks of people were more seriously biting.

The awful part is that they will only move their promoting gimmicks to other places, I've seen them elsewhere already and their rating online is not so bad compared to this forum which means more business for them and more victims will be attracted.

[ultrloa]

I also remember that they still do marketing even though their problems are still not resolved on the forum, and there are still many accounts working for that casino, this proves that it is also not a condition for judging a casino if only speculating about marketing.

Exactly every complaint should be resolved, no matter who complains to them to keep the trust of their customers, but the fact is, and they think it's crazy to do that, it's a stupid decision.

Are they still marketing? I have tried to know whether they are promoting or not. But I have not found any place for their promotion. So, I think they have stopped promoting it. I think it has happened as they have no benefit by their promotion as there is already a huge negative marketing on the forum which has affected their business.

If you guys are talking about 1xbit, 1xbit stopped promoting their brand on this forum a long time ago, like over a year now or more, but yeah, at the time when they were still advertising here, they had alot of complaints from customers, scam accusations and multiple flags, from both reputable and high ranking members of this community, all of those accusations, flags were not attended to, or paid attention to by the management of 1xbit, until DT members began tagging all users account that wear the 1xbit signature, at this point, their advertising on this forum become useless since they were no longer getting any traffic or customers from here, they did tried but at the end of the day, they had to leave the forum.

I still see 1xbit ads on some sites like coinmarketcap and the rest, but that is more expensive for sure, and I guess less productive than when they were advertising here.

Lots of people know about them here and they cannot penetrate their scam activities here anymore  since lots of people will break their attempts and always call them as scam. They already leave in this forum because they know there's nothing to get here and they are just wasting their money if they insist to do marketing campaigns since they are already known as scam casino.

Now they try to market in different area but not as wide the same as before since for sure that they are short of funding's since I believe they didn't get much costumer in their casino since lots of people will get dismay if they research the reputation of 1xbit since for sure lots of scam keyword will show up there. Still see one 1xbit on random site but I also think those kind of advertising is not effective since for sure they get less traffic and attention with those things they do.

[DomicianoTovar]

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[erep]

Yes, if it's on the forum, they've stopped promoting it entirely since last year but I pity those who campaigned for them, they both lost their forum reputation and I wonder if they paid them eventually, especially the last promoting work they did for them when allegations and attacks of people were more seriously biting.

I have seen some neutral trust accounts apply for prof to join the casino because they were attracted to the weekly payouts, they didn't even consider the negative trust impact and they already knew the consequences even if it meant sacrificing their account reputation. The last information I know about campaign payouts the casino is not paying out regularly weekly and their payouts are still pending it seems they didn't get paid in full at the end of the campaign period. CMIIW

The awful part is that they will only move their promoting gimmicks to other places, I've seen them elsewhere already and their rating online is not so bad compared to this forum which means more business for them and more victims will be attracted.

They are looking for a solution to still run the casino promotion on other forums but most of the users are from this forum and they will probably create a thread discussing the assutions scam on that forum. So we have to voice out the scam facts of bad casinos to avoid new victims.

[shasan]

I also remember that they still do marketing even though their problems are still not resolved on the forum, and there are still many accounts working for that casino, this proves that it is also not a condition for judging a casino if only speculating about marketing.

Exactly every complaint should be resolved, no matter who complains to them to keep the trust of their customers, but the fact is, and they think it's crazy to do that, it's a stupid decision.

Are they still marketing? I have tried to know whether they are promoting or not. But I have not found any place for their promotion. So, I think they have stopped promoting it. I think it has happened as they have no benefit by their promotion as there is already a huge negative marketing on the forum which has affected their business.

If you guys are talking about 1xbit, 1xbit stopped promoting their brand on this forum a long time ago, like over a year now or more, but yeah, at the time when they were still advertising here, they had alot of complaints from customers, scam accusations and multiple flags, from both reputable and high ranking members of this community, all of those accusations, flags were not attended to, or paid attention to by the management of 1xbit, until DT members began tagging all users account that wear the 1xbit signature, at this point, their advertising on this forum become useless since they were no longer getting any traffic or customers from here, they did tried but at the end of the day, they had to leave the forum.

I still see 1xbit ads on some sites like coinmarketcap and the rest, but that is more expensive for sure, and I guess less productive than when they were advertising here.

Yes I mean the gambling site 1xbit which has a lot of accusation and I think still a lot of accusations which has not been resolved till now. I have not yet seen any ads of 1xbit recently. If you really see that they are still promoting their site then it is confirmed they are still scamming.

[Jody.Drummer]

Fulfilling the KYC submitted by the casino must of course be done, maybe some gamblers don't pay attention to things like this when they register their account at the beginning, because in my opinion, casinos rarely submit KYC at the beginning. Players only need to fulfill it without thinking strangely or being lazy, because this will help them in the withdrawal process that is carried out and if you think about it, why are there players who are annoyed by the KYC submission from a casino? this is strange. In addition, KYC is also one of the things that every player really needs to pay attention to so that they can be comfortable by minimizing the occurrence of problems with the gambling they do.

[bakasabo]

Fulfilling the KYC submitted by the casino must of course be done, maybe some gamblers don't pay attention to things like this when they register their account at the beginning, because in my opinion, casinos rarely submit KYC at the beginning. Players only need to fulfill it without thinking strangely or being lazy, because this will help them in the withdrawal process that is carried out and if you think about it, why are there players who are annoyed by the KYC submission from a casino? this is strange. In addition, KYC is also one of the things that every player really needs to pay attention to so that they can be comfortable by minimizing the occurrence of problems with the gambling they do.

I believe that many dont like passing KYC not because they care so much anonymity, but because they dont like the fact that something has changed in their deposit/withdrawal routine, or they were asked for something extra to do. I have noticed many times, that people try to do minimum required, but when they asked to do something extra, or they have done something extra without asking, they consider that is a huge achievement and "ask for a medal for doing more than others". I believe that many are ready to pass KYC in casino, but if often happens like that, that when they urgently need a withdrawal and casino ask for KYC, that makes them furious.

[LUCKMCFLY]

I believe that many dont like passing KYC not because they care so much anonymity, but because they dont like the fact that something has changed in their deposit/withdrawal routine, or they were asked for something extra to do. I have noticed many times, that people try to do minimum required, but when they asked to do something extra, or they have done something extra without asking, they consider that is a huge achievement and "ask for a medal for doing more than others". I believe that many are ready to pass KYC in casino, but if often happens like that, that when they urgently need a withdrawal and casino ask for KYC, that makes them furious.

Yes and it is understandable, because the majority of players have in their mind not to complicate something as simple as withdrawing their money , the money that belongs to them, if just winning at a casino is already something big, the fact that they try to prevent it with a KYC is a reason for anger, it is something that is not liked, and if you are counting on that money for that moment, but then have to wait days for your approval, if it is something to put you in a bad mood, something that does not happen in physical casinos, then the KYC from any angle is bad , well that is my perception, although currently it is something mandatory.

[The Cryptovator]

As we can see, most of the allegation against the casino is locking the account for multiple accounts. I have debated with a couple of casinos why they don't verify during deposits that they have multiple accounts. But they suspend accounts when a user wins. I haven't gotten any reasonable answers from them. They should use their mechanism during deposits or play. This isn't the right thing to do to suspend an account or disable withdrawal after a win. I believe casinos just use this backdoor to scam innocent gamblers. But professional casinos handle these types of allegations carefully, and they are friendly enough to solve the issue. 

[stomachgrowls]

I believe that many dont like passing KYC not because they care so much anonymity, but because they dont like the fact that something has changed in their deposit/withdrawal routine, or they were asked for something extra to do. I have noticed many times, that people try to do minimum required, but when they asked to do something extra, or they have done something extra without asking, they consider that is a huge achievement and "ask for a medal for doing more than others". I believe that many are ready to pass KYC in casino, but if often happens like that, that when they urgently need a withdrawal and casino ask for KYC, that makes them furious.

Yes and it is understandable, because the majority of players have in their mind not to complicate something as simple as withdrawing their money , the money that belongs to them, if just winning at a casino is already something big, the fact that they try to prevent it with a KYC is a reason for anger, it is something that is not liked, and if you are counting on that money for that moment, but then have to wait days for your approval, if it is something to put you in a bad mood, something that does not happen in physical casinos, then the KYC from any angle is bad , well that is my perception, although currently it is something mandatory.

One of the main considerations of gamblers when choosing up on the site that they would be is about making smooth withdrawal. On the moment that they've seen some issues or feedbacks that it is really having some issues about withdrawals then this is where they do end up on being skeptical on dealing up with a certain site on which you cant blame out people because the main thing that they would be in concern on having that smooth withdrawals and having no issues about having locked up funds or having those sudden KYC requirements. So far we do have still some sites that doesnt ask out some KYC on the moment that you do make out withdrawals but even into those legit or known sites then they do came up with those possible verification specially if you have won something big on which it wont really be that an issue as long they are really that legit
and wont really be asking further requirements. We do know that this kind of business is really that involving huge amount of money and its not shocking that government wont really be letting it pass.

So changes such as this about KYC is something inevitable but it will always be that preferrable that imposing such rule wont really be that much strict. You could eventually be able to point out those places which
are looking scammy and shady on the moment that they are using this kind of thing when dealing up with witdhrawals on which you could tell that they are scamming their users since from the start.