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I'm curious about what will happen to bets that were placed before a tragic event. For example, something bad happened to Donald Trump that led him to death. Will the bets be back to bettors who placed bets on Donald Trump on the Presidential election?
I came here to ask the same question lol. Last week before this incident happens, I had made up my mind to place a bet on Donald Trump winning the presidential election but I totally forgot about that. Now, after what happened to him in this assassination attempt that injured him, I'm curious to also ask if something else were to happen to him, would the casinos refund the money to bettors who had bet on Trump, or would those bets be considered lost or only get a partial refund? It's confusing because while this is gambling, death is a tragedy and it doesn't seem fair for casinos to just keep that money. I believe a good casino would refund the money to the bettors by choice, but it's not an obligation for them and wouldn’t be considered a scam IMO. It's similar to betting on a boxing or UFC match just before one of the fighters gets injured or dies, your bet would typically be considered lost in such cases or you will get a refund? Did such incidents happened before?
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Whoever planned this attack on Trump has just handed him the victory. If the poll was tomorrow Trump should be celebrating already. He is going to gain more votes now even people who wanted to stay neutral will now have a change of mind and support him because of this attack on his life. Trump will attract a lot of sympathy votes and he will be very popular more than the way he was already. His odds of winning will be reduced.
Well this point of yours is very valid and there's no doubt this will really attract sympathisers who may decide to give him a chance due to his ordeal but then that wouldn't be the best thing to do because you shouldn't be made to pick a person for such a position by meare sympathy meanwhile you bare supposed to be rational as ro what you really want for a leader, don't get me wrong I do sympathize with Trump but it wouldn't be a reason I will give my vote if for any reason I think he isn't the kind of person I would want in the position that will affect my being as a citizen of the country he will be governing.
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July 15, 2024, 03:31:43 PM |
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I'm curious about what will happen to bets that were placed before a tragic event. For example, something bad happened to Donald Trump that led him to death. Will the bets be back to bettors who placed bets on Donald Trump on the Presidential election?
I came here to ask the same question lol. Last week before this incident happens, I had made up my mind to place a bet on Donald Trump winning the presidential election but I totally forgot about that. Now, after what happened to him in this assassination attempt that injured him, I'm curious to also ask if something else were to happen to him, would the casinos refund the money to bettors who had bet on Trump, or would those bets be considered lost or only get a partial refund? It's confusing because while this is gambling, death is a tragedy and it doesn't seem fair for casinos to just keep that money. I believe a good casino would refund the money to the bettors by choice, but it's not an obligation for them and wouldn’t be considered a scam IMO. It's similar to betting on a boxing or UFC match just before one of the fighters gets injured or dies, your bet would typically be considered lost in such cases or you will get a refund? Did such incidents happened before? The election hasn't happened yet and no one has declared a winner yet which I guess will be considered No contest. Maybe they will send the coins back and it will be fair to do that. But there was a match in boxing that after a few months the fight was considered No Contest as well such as the fight of Ryan Garcia vs Devin Haney. I think the coins weren't sent back. After all that time, it was considered Ryan who won and the fight was over. And most probably Trump will be replaced by someone else and your bet will be void as well. Such a disaster when you already think its a sure winning bet.
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July 15, 2024, 03:55:35 PM |
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Does anyone know about the 1984 United States presidential election? It was conducted after the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. Republican candidate won close to 60% of the popular vote, and ended up winning all states except Minnesota (home state for the Democrat candidate Walter Mondale). That was one of the most one-sided presidential elections in the history of the United States. Now the 2024 POTUS elections are also heading in the same direction (that is, if there is no vote rigging from the Democrats).
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He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.
This was going to be a close race, but with this lastest incident Trump has indeed increased his chances to win, the picture of him alone screaming with his fist up to the sky is worth millions in political capital already, it is a truly a blessing in disguise for him, also the fact he quickly mentioned and asked for prayers for the family of those who died, makes him to look even more humane. I am not sure whether his assassination would have sparked a civil war or not, USA polítics are more complex than that and the average Republican and the establishment would not find convenient for a war to happen in the USA, if anything, Putin would greatly benefit from it happening. When I have some time, I'll try to find a graph which shows how the odds of Trump changed because of this unpredictable assassination attempt. I thought the same thing, the situation, as difficult as it may have been, elected Donald Trump, if anyone had doubts about who to vote for, after this incident it is practically certain that the vote will go to Trump, he showed that even in adversity he did not let himself go slaughter and showed himself to be a very strong person with an American spirit that everyone wants to see. It's even easy to bet now, I would put all in on Trump if I were to bet. I would not go as far as claiming it is an easy bet, these kind of bets are never easy and in the end of the day, it is never certain one candidate is going to beat their foe, thus going all in on a candidate is never a good advice. We are supposed to bet on money we are willing to lose to our own bad luck, it is the thumb rule of gambling and risky investments, after all. As it stands now, I wonder whether Trump is going to use this unfortunate event to advertise his campaign further, as it is truly remarkable how he faced the chance of getting killed by a second gunman, he and his team did not know whether there was one or several people threatening the life of Trump. It was a risk, to pose and raise his fist.
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July 15, 2024, 04:45:07 PM |
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He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.
You forgot mail-in voting, which can magically change the results of the count ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Considering that the Democrats are opposed to the need to prove that you are a US citizen in the presidential election (what a fucking clown world), I would not be surprised if tens of millions of fake votes are thrown in Biden’s favor. If anyone (even illegal immigrant without documents) can vote, then why not? Hopefully T thought something about it this time.
It is amazing to see that there are people who thought Biden had a chance to win even before the shooting. The guy can't successfully put a sentence together and he had a chance... because there are still people who will vote for him. (As you can see above)
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He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.
You forgot mail-in voting, which can magically change the results of the count ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Considering that the Democrats are opposed to the need to prove that you are a US citizen in the presidential election (what a fucking clown world), I would not be surprised if tens of millions of fake votes are thrown in Biden’s favor. If anyone (even illegal immigrant without documents) can vote, then why not? Hopefully T thought something about it this time.
It is amazing to see that there are people who thought Biden had a chance to win even before the shooting. The guy can't successfully put a sentence together and he had a chance... because there are still people who will vote for him. (As you can see above) I think that in the US elections, the Democrats will leave the election to Trump and try to bully and force him while he is in power, otherwise they would have to change their election candidates already. You are right, even before Trump was shot, the statistics said that Trump was much ahead, now it has increased even more and I do not expect any different results, Trump will win the presidential elections, the world is just waiting for the voting day. Also, since it is said that it supports bitcoin, there may be acceleration in bitcoin when we get closer to the elections. Of course, this is just the prediction that everyone sees. Will it actually be like this?
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He didn't need an assassination attempt to win, the election was already in his pocket and Biden/Democrats did everything to lose but this last incident carried everything to whole another level. He will use this to fight and clean the corruption which entrenched in every corner of the country. So this is a blessing in disguise for him. Had he died yesterday, it would have triggered a civil war easily and the results of that would be catastrophic. He probably was going to get 60% of the popular votes and now it is more like 80%. It doesn't even make much sense to make a bet on it unless... there is be a second successful murder attempt.
You forgot mail-in voting, which can magically change the results of the count ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Considering that the Democrats are opposed to the need to prove that you are a US citizen in the presidential election (what a fucking clown world), I would not be surprised if tens of millions of fake votes are thrown in Biden’s favor. If anyone (even illegal immigrant without documents) can vote, then why not? Hopefully T thought something about it this time.
It is amazing to see that there are people who thought Biden had a chance to win even before the shooting. The guy can't successfully put a sentence together and he had a chance... because there are still people who will vote for him. (As you can see above) Nice Sig! Who would put his life on the line, and set up an assassination attempt I don't think Trump is this dumb. Anyone can see how this guy talks and responds quickly to those reporters who want him to make mistakes. Trump has been on the mic almost all his life talking because people listen to him. He will win the election without the assassination attempt but he will even get more votes this time after this failed attempt. Hope he hires loyal people alongside those SS. Trump, Donald 1.35 Biden, Joe 5.50 So Biden condemned the violent attempt and then his odds went 5.50.
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I reckon the dead of the secret service should resign. He is incompetent, however, the skeptical me is thinking of something very bad like who gets direct benefits on the death of the Donald Trump? In any case, the assassinator and if there are more people behind this assassination, they have given the victory to Trump on November with a very big landslide! Can't resign, already dead. ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Kidding aside, yeah, it's negligence that almost killed the presidential candidate. Anyway, I'd rather focus on the shooter than the other things that would happen if Trump's dead. Thomas Crooks appears to be a sad young man who wants to shoot. At this point, it seems Thomas doesn't have a strong motive in killing a presidentiable. Trump's winning not because he was assassinated. Trump's winning because Biden is senile. However, we cannot stop some people from speculating on why he has done this or if he was alone on this mission. Who would be the most benefitted if Trump is dead? In any case, election killings and violence should not be a normal occurrence in America. @cabron. Trump might not have needed the assassination to win the election, however, surviving this has made him presently the certainty to become the next president of America. In the eyes of the people he is the president already.
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Does anyone know about the 1984 United States presidential election? It was conducted after the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. Republican candidate won close to 60% of the popular vote, and ended up winning all states except Minnesota (home state for the Democrat candidate Walter Mondale). That was one of the most one-sided presidential elections in the history of the United States. Now the 2024 POTUS elections are also heading in the same direction (that is, if there is no vote rigging from the Democrats).
After the facts you presented, it looks like Trump now has a very high chance of winning. I didn't exactly keep track of his chances of winning before what happened, but I'm sure they increased by several tens of percent. In general, for some reason I think that not everything will be so simple and perhaps we will see some more unexpected moments in these elections, I hope that they will not be as bad. Among the interesting facts, I can remember that after the last elections, bookmakers immediately began accepting bets on Trump’s victory 4 years ago. And if I’m not mistaken, the chances at that moment were no more than 10% for his victory. I had the idea at that moment to bet on it, but for me 4 years is too long a period with huge uncertainty. Strictly speaking, therefore, the chances were very small.
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Does anyone know about the 1984 United States presidential election? It was conducted after the assassination attempt on Ronald Reagan. Republican candidate won close to 60% of the popular vote, and ended up winning all states except Minnesota (home state for the Democrat candidate Walter Mondale). That was one of the most one-sided presidential elections in the history of the United States. Now the 2024 POTUS elections are also heading in the same direction (that is, if there is no vote rigging from the Democrats).
After the facts you presented, it looks like Trump now has a very high chance of winning. I didn't exactly keep track of his chances of winning before what happened, but I'm sure they increased by several tens of percent. In general, for some reason I think that not everything will be so simple and perhaps we will see some more unexpected moments in these elections, I hope that they will not be as bad. Among the interesting facts, I can remember that after the last elections, bookmakers immediately began accepting bets on Trump’s victory 4 years ago. And if I’m not mistaken, the chances at that moment were no more than 10% for his victory. I had the idea at that moment to bet on it, but for me 4 years is too long a period with huge uncertainty. Strictly speaking, therefore, the chances were very small. now that I have read this thread I have also decided to bet on the next American elections, I was browsing the bookmakers and I must say that all the expectations of victory are projected on Trump after the attack I would say that it is very normal that he has captured the consensus of many more than expected, then with that iconic photo taken by chance the game is practically done
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So, anyone that has placed a bet on this, before putting your money on it have you checked the terms and see what happens if one of the candidates gets killed or dies of natural causes (just as possible) before the election? Cause I am pretty certain they use terms of withdrawing from it but now being withdrawn by a 7.62! Either way: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F14%2Fo0eOP.png&t=665&c=4oTuFTilfWyymQ) People are starting treating it as a sure bet since yesterday! I have placed the bet on Donald Trump and got 1.35 odds. I think even without the day before yesterday's event where he was shot on the ear, he is quite popular and will be the next president of the United States. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F16%2F4AT1T.png&t=665&c=0-asgXEhSn6UfQ) He is known for his affection with cryptocurrencies and despite being assassination attempt on him, he will be addressing the Bitcoin conference later this month. He has got all the crypto community support with him. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F16%2F4AFQ1.png&t=665&c=JhiLqHIeDM4aSw)
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July 16, 2024, 06:13:06 PM |
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So, anyone that has placed a bet on this, before putting your money on it have you checked the terms and see what happens if one of the candidates gets killed or dies of natural causes (just as possible) before the election? Cause I am pretty certain they use terms of withdrawing from it but now being withdrawn by a 7.62! Either way: ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F14%2Fo0eOP.png&t=665&c=4oTuFTilfWyymQ) People are starting treating it as a sure bet since yesterday! I’ve considered it a sure bet for quite some time. I have plenty of multi bet winners waiting to payout when Trump gets elected. The crazy thing is that some media outlets are still acting like Biden is neck and neck with Trump in the polls. It’s pretty funny when Vegas is more reliable than the political professionals.
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I'm pretty convinced at this point that Trump will win the 2024 US presidential election. In my humble opinion both are completely unfit for office, both due their age as well as both clearly have a cognitive decline (especially Joe Biden).
If the democrats want to have any chance of winning, they need to get Biden out of the race ASAP. He shouldn't have been there to begin with. Just blow my mind really.
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I have placed the bet on Donald Trump and got 1.35 odds. I think even without the day before yesterday's event where he was shot on the ear, he is quite popular and will be the next president of the United States. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F16%2F4AT1T.png&t=665&c=0-asgXEhSn6UfQ) He is known for his affection with cryptocurrencies and despite being assassination attempt on him, he will be addressing the Bitcoin conference later this month. He has got all the crypto community support with him. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.talkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2024%2F07%2F16%2F4AFQ1.png&t=665&c=JhiLqHIeDM4aSw) Looks like a easy +35%. And even waiting until November seems justified. By the way, Trump is already officially nominated as the Republican candidate, what about Biden? When will the Democrats finish their selection process and will we know exactly who will compete for the presidency? It seems to me that on the day when Biden is (if) finally announced as a candidate, the quotes for Trump’s victory will rise to 1.20.
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I'm pretty convinced at this point that Trump will win the 2024 US presidential election. In my humble opinion both are completely unfit for office, both due their age as well as both clearly have a cognitive decline (especially Joe Biden).
If the democrats want to have any chance of winning, they need to get Biden out of the race ASAP. He shouldn't have been there to begin with. Just blow my mind really.
After what happened in the debate, Joe Biden's chances are over, not even the most fanatical of his fans still believe that he has any capacity to preside over the country, as his decline in even expressing himself is notable. Donald Trump will win these elections with certain ease, even at his advanced age, I consider Trump the best candidate the USA can have. IN any case, it will be his last term (if elected)
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July 17, 2024, 06:18:02 AM |
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I'm pretty convinced at this point that Trump will win the 2024 US presidential election. In my humble opinion both are completely unfit for office, both due their age as well as both clearly have a cognitive decline (especially Joe Biden).
If the democrats want to have any chance of winning, they need to get Biden out of the race ASAP. He shouldn't have been there to begin with. Just blow my mind really.
I very much agree on your argument on the both of them! However, we should take care of ourselves and our investments in the cryptospace. Who will bring a pump on the cryptospace, will it be Trump or Biden? It appears that presently it is Trump. On Biden being removed as the Democrats' candidate, if you put yourself in Biden's situation on being an old man with dementia, would you want to run for president or spend time with your grandchildren?
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July 17, 2024, 10:10:10 AM |
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I'm pretty convinced at this point that Trump will win the 2024 US presidential election. In my humble opinion both are completely unfit for office, both due their age as well as both clearly have a cognitive decline (especially Joe Biden).
If the democrats want to have any chance of winning, they need to get Biden out of the race ASAP. He shouldn't have been there to begin with. Just blow my mind really.
I very much agree on your argument on the both of them! However, we should take care of ourselves and our investments in the cryptospace. Who will bring a pump on the cryptospace, will it be Trump or Biden? It appears that presently it is Trump. On Biden being removed as the Democrats' candidate, if you put yourself in Biden's situation on being an old man with dementia, would you want to run for president or spend time with your grandchildren? Or let's put it this way, the lesser of two evil as far as crypto goes? It will be Trump for sure. And then he get a VP that is pro crypto, so what can you ask for me from Trump, he played very well in this election and his chances almost leap up with he got Vance as his running mate, That's why my question is the other thread is that what the US voters will value more? their political beliefs or them being a pro-crypto voters?
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July 17, 2024, 10:59:33 AM |
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Odds are clearing showing the aftermath of what happened, and how Trump is almost guaranteed the presidency. I don't know if this was a bad or good thing for Trump to be fair, sure it's never good to be shot at, and it is almost like fear will settle forever, because once it happened, there is no turning back and you may fear that it may happen again in the future, and you never know when, and that's a fear.
However, if we are talking about the reality, then he didn't get that much hurt, it is just a small piece of the ear I suppose, not a big part, and in return he will become the president again. If anyone asks me if I would give piece of my ear to be president of USA, I would definitely take that deal lol. Good luck to him, he will need it, being president is tough.
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July 17, 2024, 01:31:41 PM |
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Looks like a easy +35%. And even waiting until November seems justified. By the way, Trump is already officially nominated as the Republican candidate, what about Biden? When will the Democrats finish their selection process and will we know exactly who will compete for the presidency? It seems to me that on the day when Biden is (if) finally announced as a candidate, the quotes for Trump’s victory will rise to 1.20.
I could have waited more but i thought that 1.35 odd is quite decent as you wait it can come down to 1.20 too, so its better to place the bet now and get good odds. I think as Trump will gain more popularity in the coming days, the odds for him will continue to decline. On Biden being removed as the Democrats' candidate, if you put yourself in Biden's situation on being an old man with dementia, would you want to run for president or spend time with your grandchildren?
If you talk only about the ages then Trump is not young either. While Biden is 81 years old, Trump is 78 years old. Both need to spend time with grandchildren ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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