[ANN] Storj - Decentralized Storage

[dimke_yu]

And we need more decentralized systems not because of our privacy, anonymity or whatnot it is because then every user controls what he owns and whole responsibility is on themselves, also why would some company make millions of dollars for something that can be spread across the network and shared between users... As some people said in very short period of time there would not be any more centralized services at all... when big players understand this behavior it is going to be too late for them... This project is one of few where I see bright future. Keep up the good work STORJ team!

[brandoff]

Thanks guys! And, shamless plug (if it's allowed here), but if you're pumped about Storj, I encourage you to join our own talk boards too at storjtalk.org. We try to be very responsive to our community's feedback, whether it be technical, business, or something else. Contributions are welcome too, whether they are simple grammatical reviews of our websites/blog/whitepapers or code or spin-off projects (e.g. Storj-based X).

[luffy]

thanks.
in storjtalk it has a ton of information without spamming

[YoyodyneSystems]

Where can we buy Storj except Polo?

We are talking with some other exchanges. We expect to have 1-2 more soonish.

https://bittrex.com is a good choice, many guys use this exchange and fell well.

bittrex avoid all bitcoin 2.0 assets.

What is the reasoning behind Bittrex avoiding the "assets"?
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

They are hosting dozens of "crowd funding" campaigns (ICOs) but not useful projects like Storj and many others.

What would be their fear?
Maybe some campaigning should be done to get them to see the light.

[mthompson362]

What is the reasoning behind Bittrex avoiding the "assets"?
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

Bittrex has voiced security concerns with assets, and in our case, Counterparty assets. We have yet to see whether these concerns are legitimate.

[STORJX]

Where can we buy Storj except Polo?

We are talking with some other exchanges. We expect to have 1-2 more soonish.

https://bittrex.com is a good choice, many guys use this exchange and fell well.

bittrex avoid all bitcoin 2.0 assets.

What is the reasoning behind Bittrex avoiding the "assets"?
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

Transaction fees also are relatively high and they are worried that they will be making very little profit if users were to withdraw small amounts in great numbers. For example if someone has 10,000 SJCX on an exchange and starts withdrawing them 1 SJCX at the time the Tx fees cost could spiral pretty high. A way around that would be to set higher withdraw fees on the exchange itself.

I believe more exchanges will come sooner or later. It's just a question of time and them realizing the utility of SJCX and its possible popularity when our apps are released. There may be also some technical concerns with the implementation of XCP assets on their platforms. I didn't see PoloniEx having issues adding SJCX or XCP and they are doing a pretty good job. Counterparty/Counterwallet APIs are available on GitHub and I believe they are keen on helping out exchanges with implementation too.

[IamNotSure]

Where can we buy Storj except Polo?

We are talking with some other exchanges. We expect to have 1-2 more soonish.

https://bittrex.com is a good choice, many guys use this exchange and fell well.

bittrex avoid all bitcoin 2.0 assets.

What is the reasoning behind Bittrex avoiding the "assets"?
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

Transaction fees also are relatively high and they are worried that they will be making very little profit if users were to withdraw small amounts in great numbers. For example if someone has 10,000 SJCX on an exchange and starts withdrawing them 1 SJCX at the time the Tx fees cost could spiral pretty high. A way around that would be to set higher withdraw fees on the exchange itself.

I believe more exchanges will come sooner or later. It's just a question of time and them realizing the utility of SJCX and its possible popularity when our apps are released. There may be also some technical concerns with the implementation of XCP assets on their platforms. I didn't see PoloniEx having issues adding SJCX or XCP and they are doing a pretty good job. Counterparty/Counterwallet APIs are available on GitHub and I believe they are keen on helping out exchanges with implementation too.

This makes no sense. You could easily force min withdrawals amount on those assets. Meanwhile, it looks like XCP and coutnerparty assets have nice trading volume on poloniex since several weeks, so it must be profitable for busoni.

[STORJX]

Where can we buy Storj except Polo?

We are talking with some other exchanges. We expect to have 1-2 more soonish.

https://bittrex.com is a good choice, many guys use this exchange and fell well.

bittrex avoid all bitcoin 2.0 assets.

What is the reasoning behind Bittrex avoiding the "assets"?
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

Transaction fees also are relatively high and they are worried that they will be making very little profit if users were to withdraw small amounts in great numbers. For example if someone has 10,000 SJCX on an exchange and starts withdrawing them 1 SJCX at the time the Tx fees cost could spiral pretty high. A way around that would be to set higher withdraw fees on the exchange itself.

I believe more exchanges will come sooner or later. It's just a question of time and them realizing the utility of SJCX and its possible popularity when our apps are released. There may be also some technical concerns with the implementation of XCP assets on their platforms. I didn't see PoloniEx having issues adding SJCX or XCP and they are doing a pretty good job. Counterparty/Counterwallet APIs are available on GitHub and I believe they are keen on helping out exchanges with implementation too.

This makes no sense. You could easily force min withdrawals amount on those assets. Meanwhile, it looks like XCP and coutnerparty assets have nice trading volume on poloniex since several weeks, so it must be profitable for busoni.

We do try our best, we encourage our community members to ask their favourite exchanges to consider adding SJCX.
Eventually we will have more support, in the meantime feel free to tweet, email, vote for Storjcoin X to be added.

We have a few topics on our forum just for that: https://storjtalk.org/index.php?board=5.0

[prophetx]

Where can we buy Storj except Polo?

We are talking with some other exchanges. We expect to have 1-2 more soonish.

https://bittrex.com is a good choice, many guys use this exchange and fell well.

bittrex avoid all bitcoin 2.0 assets.

What is the reasoning behind Bittrex avoiding the "assets"?
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

Transaction fees also are relatively high and they are worried that they will be making very little profit if users were to withdraw small amounts in great numbers. For example if someone has 10,000 SJCX on an exchange and starts withdrawing them 1 SJCX at the time the Tx fees cost could spiral pretty high. A way around that would be to set higher withdraw fees on the exchange itself.

I believe more exchanges will come sooner or later. It's just a question of time and them realizing the utility of SJCX and its possible popularity when our apps are released. There may be also some technical concerns with the implementation of XCP assets on their platforms. I didn't see PoloniEx having issues adding SJCX or XCP and they are doing a pretty good job. Counterparty/Counterwallet APIs are available on GitHub and I believe they are keen on helping out exchanges with implementation too.

This makes no sense. You could easily force min withdrawals amount on those assets. Meanwhile, it looks like XCP and coutnerparty assets have nice trading volume on poloniex since several weeks, so it must be profitable for busoni.

We do try our best, we encourage our community members to ask their favourite exchanges to consider adding SJCX.
Eventually we will have more support, in the meantime feel free to tweet, email, vote for Storjcoin X to be added.

We have a few topics on our forum just for that: https://storjtalk.org/index.php?board=5.0

bter.com also  - sign up here so i get some referral credit https://bter.com/signup/4780 (you also get 10% off on trading fee for 6 months)

and vote for SJCX here https://bter.com/voting

you get 10 votes per hour

* correction you get up to 10 points an hour once you have some bter points which you get from trading

[evok3d]

Tweet
https://twitter.com/ev0k3d/status/533287528582094850

Nomination Thread
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=855130.msg9542207#msg9542207

[sherbyspark]

bter.com also  - sign up here so i get some referral credit https://bter.com/signup/4780 (you also get 10% off on trading fee for 6 months)

and vote for SJCX here https://bter.com/voting

you get 10 votes per hour

* correction you get up to 10 points an hour once you have some bter points which you get from trading

I am surprised that STORJX hasn't been listed on other exchanges except POLO. It will probably be listed, after all the services and applications are launched.

[5000Bitcoins]

What is the reasoning behind Bittrex avoiding the "assets"?
http://coinmarketcap.com/assets/

Bittrex has voiced security concerns with assets, and in our case, Counterparty assets. We have yet to see whether these concerns are legitimate.

They're probably worried about selling this to US citizens because they are US based, not sure though, but we've heard the noise here and there about it.
Legit or not, currencies right now is probably less of a hassle for them.

[SpeedDemon13]

Hey super3, are you still working on Stroj to some how work with Burstcoin? I thought I remember you mentioning it in the Burstcoin thread....

[STORJX]

Watch The DriveShare Farming Demo

Checkout the video on our YouTube Channel: http://youtu.be/lFuflBdpAnE.
An overview of early DriveShare farming by Storj Core Developer Josh Brandoff.
You can follow the status of current farming tests at https://live.driveshare.org.

[STORJX]

We have had several requests from our supporters for Storj Stickers Templates.
They are now available for everyone to print and are attached as .PDF files.
Thanks goes to our Lead Designer Tome.  

Feel free to use them, we are happy if you would like to promote Storj in you area.

The attached PDF templates work perfectly on Moo.com, they should work on a local site of your choice too.
Available for Download all together as .zip file on MetaDisk.

• USA: http://us.moo.com/products/stickers/
• UK: http://uk.moo.com/products/stickers/
• Germany: http://uk.moo.com/de/products/stickers/
• Italy: http://uk.moo.com/it/products/stickers/
• Spain: http://uk.moo.com/es/products/stickers/
• France: http://uk.moo.com/fr/products/stickers/
• Netherlands: http://nl.moo.com/products/stickers/
• EU: http://eu.moo.com/products/stickers/
• Australia: http://au.moo.com/products/stickers/
• Canada: http://ca.moo.com/products/stickers/

If you find a local printer in your country that works better and cheaper make sure to post a link.
You can also setup your own template for other people in your area who may be interested.

[GamingUnleashed]

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

you should think about getting your coin added

[STORJX]

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

you should think about getting your coin added

I have sent them a request. Thanks for sharing.

We have more places where we are added for voting, feel free to help!

Vote to add SJCX on BTER. We need everyone's help with this one.

Vote to add SJCX on askcoin.net

Ask your favourite exchange to list Storjcoin X (SJCX)!!!

[barabbas]

Considering I have over 2 TB of space just on my normal hard drive, i'd love to use this. It looks really cool.

We have removed our whitepaper because we want to refine it a bit more. At least according to those numbers if you sold you hard drive at Dropbox prices you would make $2,000 a year off your 2 TB. You will be a very happy camper when we add proof of resource to Storj.

We aren't promising that quite yet as the computer science algorithms need a ton more work, but you might be able to run a web node (if you don't mind doing a decent amount of config) and make a nice sum of coins that way.

If there's decent documentation on how everything works I won't have a problem doing any of that stuff. I don't care how much I get paid really, as long as it's noticeable that something is happening. The problem is that the 2 TB is split between being half on my 2 TB hard drive and the other half on an empty 1 TB external. An easy solution would probably just be to partition my main drive.

EDIT: If you have any kind of beta for this, please let me know. I'd be eager to help work out bugs and just generally help with this.

EDITEDIT: I just looked on the website and entered my email, didn't see that before.

Our early supporters will get to play around with the web nodes. Those just get stuff working and allow you to play around with our platform.

Should not be a problem when we have our apps for that. We also plan on working with Maidsafe for the whole sell your hard drive part.

A couple questions:

1.- So this is an encryption protocol by which images/documents/files will be "saved" to hard drives of people's computers all over the world, presumably in parts, am I right? If I am, the likelihood of those parts of files being lost or otherwise inaccessible, is very high, so I'd imagine there will be numerous "backups" with the search jumping from one to another until finding the right, complete file/folder which is requested... if that is the case, how is this going to compete or even use remotely close numbers to dropbox, that you mention, when they have DEDICATED server accessible 24/7? And since so many people will be paid for their storage, either insignificant payments will be made or it would result in non competitive prices... what am I missing?

2.- Since this will be completely decentralized, people will be storing in their computers, unknowingly, everything from child porno to unlawful contracts of every kind, from drugs and weapons to human parts... how do you plan on avoiding legal enforcement giving the seriousness of the items? Yo DO know that such activities will not only BE LOCATED but shot down and with the responsible parties (that would be you or anyone that facilitates and/or makes money facilitating such activities) thrown in jail, don't you?

[prophetx]

https://www.coinpayments.net/vote

you should think about getting your coin added

I have sent them a request. Thanks for sharing.

We have more places where we are added for voting, feel free to help!

Vote to add SJCX on BTER. We need everyone's help with this one.

Vote to add SJCX on askcoin.net

Ask your favourite exchange to list Storjcoin X (SJCX)!!!

i vote a few times a day on https://bter.com/voting

if i just had help from 4 or 5 people, this would be in the top 20 very quick.  so far we are up to #36 since i started voting earlier this month.

[mthompson362]

Considering I have over 2 TB of space just on my normal hard drive, i'd love to use this. It looks really cool.

We have removed our whitepaper because we want to refine it a bit more. At least according to those numbers if you sold you hard drive at Dropbox prices you would make $2,000 a year off your 2 TB. You will be a very happy camper when we add proof of resource to Storj.

We aren't promising that quite yet as the computer science algorithms need a ton more work, but you might be able to run a web node (if you don't mind doing a decent amount of config) and make a nice sum of coins that way.

If there's decent documentation on how everything works I won't have a problem doing any of that stuff. I don't care how much I get paid really, as long as it's noticeable that something is happening. The problem is that the 2 TB is split between being half on my 2 TB hard drive and the other half on an empty 1 TB external. An easy solution would probably just be to partition my main drive.

EDIT: If you have any kind of beta for this, please let me know. I'd be eager to help work out bugs and just generally help with this.

EDITEDIT: I just looked on the website and entered my email, didn't see that before.

Our early supporters will get to play around with the web nodes. Those just get stuff working and allow you to play around with our platform.

Should not be a problem when we have our apps for that. We also plan on working with Maidsafe for the whole sell your hard drive part.

A couple questions:

1.- So this is an encryption protocol by which images/documents/files will be "saved" to hard drives of people's computers all over the world, presumably in parts, am I right? If I am, the likelihood of those parts of files being lost or otherwise inaccessible, is very high, so I'd imagine there will be numerous "backups" with the search jumping from one to another until finding the right, complete file/folder which is requested... if that is the case, how is this going to compete or even use remotely close numbers to dropbox, that you mention, when they have DEDICATED server accessible 24/7? And since so many people will be paid for their storage, either insignificant payments will be made or it would result in non competitive prices... what am I missing?

2.- Since this will be completely decentralized, people will be storing in their computers, unknowingly, everything from child porno to unlawful contracts of every kind, from drugs and weapons to human parts... how do you plan on avoiding legal enforcement giving the seriousness of the items? Yo DO know that such activities will not only BE LOCATED but shot down and with the responsible parties (that would be you or anyone that facilitates and/or makes money facilitating such activities) thrown in jail, don't you?

1) You set the redundancy a file is stored at. If a node stops carrying a file or goes offline, it will fail a 'check-in' for that data by the network. The network will heal this missing file by taking an existing copy and rehosting it to a new node to maintain redundancy. If you're still scared of files going  down, you can set redundancy to 50 or even higher - just keep in mind these are quite small micropayments to hosts so even redundancy at 50 won't cost too much relative to, say, Dropbox prices. Keep in mind that bandwidth is also taken into account, not just storage.
 
2) Considering the encryption involved, though it isn't impossible to break, it will be extremely hard to figure out what a file is that is being stored on a node's hard drive - so hard in fact that it would be virtually useless to try to break the encryption. In that way, you can't really get in trouble as a host because there is essentially no way to see what is being stored on your hard drive.
 
On the flip side, if you are storing something illegal on the network, you yourself can get in trouble if LE confiscates your computer. Considering that people will be using things like VPNs and that all you have is an address for SJCX, even then you wouldn't be able to tell what node is storing the illegal content. So while for these examples you can't say FOR SURE that the encryption would be cracked back to the storee or forward to the storage node, it would most likely take such an incredibly long time and a huge amount of computing power that it would be useless to try (to the point that even with a supercomputer or something of the likes it would take billions of year to brute force).  
  
This isn't to say that Storj is made for illegal content, though. We've been passing around ideas for things like if a storee or node makes it public knowledge that they are facilitating the transfer of illegal content, they can be blacklisted.