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September 17, 2016, 08:39:27 AM
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Every Xanadu Maidsafe server is uniquely and securely identified.
Every Xanadu Maidsafe server can be operated independently or in a network.

http://www.25hoursaday.com/weblog/2009/09/27/DuctTapeProgrammersAndTheCultureOfComplexityInSoftwareProjects.aspx

"In practical terms, Project Xanadu Maidsafe was trying to solve too many complex problems in a v1 product."

Definitely no ominous parallels here....   Roll Eyes

So glad SAFE doesn't use servers then  Grin Grin Grin

Data has to be served to users from somewhere.  It won't magically appear from nowhere in the client.

Just because you nitpick about terminology doesn't mean the resemblances to Xanadu are uncanny (and damning).

Good luck solving too many complex problems in a v1 product.   Grin

Yes, of course data has to be served from somewhere. Just like BitTorrent that even works without servers (DHT) and Bitcoin (no servers, just nodes). We went over several testnets where we ran Vaults from home. Nothing to prove here, it already works. A known problem is "data integrity" which means a chunk stays on the system even if it's not requested for years. But the devs are working to fix this. And next to that they just delivered SAFE Mail which is quite amazing as it's a fully encrypted P2P email system.

Great times for SAFE, and I'm glad you still post in this topic because I know for sure 1 day you'll see the magic of this all and actually try the system  Grin. Although I advise you to watch the video a few replies back and test the SAFE Mail today as it's quite an accomplishment what they've build.   
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September 19, 2016, 09:49:09 AM
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The SAFE Beaker Browser is a dedicated browser for The SAFE Network. It won't connect you tot the HTTP and HTTPS internet. It does connect you to websites (safesites) on the SAFE Network.

This is how URL's look on SAFE




The SAFE Beaker Browser runs on Windows, Linux and Mac.


SAFE Beaker Browser dev update


Enjoy!@!
 
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September 19, 2016, 05:28:48 PM
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Safe is one of the most reliable projects in crypto world. A lot of years of development, I'm sure, will bring great results.

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September 19, 2016, 05:39:00 PM
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The SAFE Beaker Browser is a dedicated browser for The SAFE Network. It won't connect you tot the HTTP and HTTPS internet. It does connect you to websites (safesites) on the SAFE Network.

This is how URL's look on SAFE




The SAFE Beaker Browser runs on Windows, Linux and Mac.


SAFE Beaker Browser dev update


Enjoy!@!
 

Nice broswer, what's the core of it, chrome core or ir core? And is it really safe? Cheesy
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September 19, 2016, 08:01:50 PM
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The SAFE Beaker Browser is a dedicated browser for The SAFE Network. It won't connect you tot the HTTP and HTTPS internet. It does connect you to websites (safesites) on the SAFE Network.

This is how URL's look on SAFE




The SAFE Beaker Browser runs on Windows, Linux and Mac.


SAFE Beaker Browser dev update


Enjoy!@!
 

Nice broswer, what's the core of it, chrome core or ir core? And is it really safe? Cheesy

I think it's based on chrome. But a lot got stripped off. The normal Beaker Browser is able to connect to the normal internet. The SAFE version isn't. The SAFE Beaker Browser got sponsored by the community and Maidsafe.

https://safenetforum.org/t/safer-browser-s-proposal/10336
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September 20, 2016, 09:26:09 AM
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Any particular reason why maidsafe coin price declining ? It had a nice rise but now has been consistently dropping for almost a week?  Huh
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Any particular reason why maidsafe coin price declining ? It had a nice rise but now has been consistently dropping for almost a week?  Huh

It's normal. For the moment , people are trying to make profit by trading and those coins have no actual use as the Alpha release doesn't include the Safecoins .
Once the official release , you will see a huge increase since would buy them to use them instead of making profit only.

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Any particular reason why maidsafe coin price declining ? It had a nice rise but now has been consistently dropping for almost a week?  Huh

The lower, the better, I want to buy more below 15k sat, I even want to buy at 5k sat, but it is unrealistic goal.
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MaidSafe Dev Update 20th September 2016

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Any particular reason why maidsafe coin price declining ? It had a nice rise but now has been consistently dropping for almost a week?  Huh

One reason is the new crowdfunding initiative, which entails even more dilution of old investors' capital.

Even the dullest, most trusting person must begin to suspect something is wrong when Maid spends years burning ICO money yet produces nothing of value, and then goes back to the well asking for more funding.

That's what happens when you try to solve too many complex problems in a v1 product.

It's the old Xanadu Syndrome; ignore the KISS principle at your peril.


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September 20, 2016, 09:31:47 PM
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Why is synereo already overfunded in shorter time? Maidsafe made far less money in the same time.

https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/synereo

https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/maidsafe-net

Any opinions synero vs maidsafe? Worth investing?

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September 21, 2016, 08:28:54 AM
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    Any particular reason why maidsafe coin price declining ? It had a nice rise but now has been consistently dropping for almost a week?  Huh

    One reason is the new crowdfunding initiative, which entails even more dilution of old investors' capital.

    Even the dullest, most trusting person must begin to suspect something is wrong when Maid spends years burning ICO money yet produces nothing of value, and then goes back to the well asking for more funding.

    That's what happens when you try to solve too many complex problems in a v1 product.

    It's the old Xanadu Syndrome; ignore the KISS principle at your peril.


    Maybe keep your facts straight. The ICO doesn't hold any shareholder rights. This round of funding does as they're selling 6.25% of their company. StroJ did a round on BTTF as well even while they had a ICO befroe. Same for Factom. These projects are now selling real parts of their company, which isn't any different from the likes of AirBnB and Uber who even did several investment rounds. The nice thing about BTTF is that none of your cryptocoins from the ICO get diluted.

    Ohw, and Maidsafe did deliver projects. They hold some patents as well as this stuff is quite innovative.

    • DNS (decentralized Name System, crypto alternative to the current DNS)
    • Self_Encryption (This allows for caching, making popular data faster)
    • Self_Authentication (Log in to a decentralized network without sending your passwords to a server)
    • SAFE Mail (fully encrypted decentralized email with end-to-end encryption)


    Loads more to come. The real magic will be Safecoin with transactions at least 600 times faster than Bitcoin. Fully anonymous as well.[/list]
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    Why is synereo already overfunded in shorter time? Maidsafe made far less money in the same time.

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/synereo

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/maidsafe-net

    Any opinions synero vs maidsafe? Worth investing?

    MaidSafe started getting funds by the CEO as far as I know (from family & friends) by 5 million dollars then the Crowdsale was so successful (they got 7$ million in five hours) and now they are now using BankToTheFuture . So in terms of funding , MaidSafe was better.
    In my opinion , both worth investing but MaidSafe (decentralized internet) will be probably more successful as It offers better much better stuff than simply a Decentralized Social media website (Synereo). It's just a matter of time till MaidSafe price will skyrocket, for the moment there is no use for it but once the real version is released , It will increase.

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    Why is synereo already overfunded in shorter time? Maidsafe made far less money in the same time.

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/synereo

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/maidsafe-net

    Any opinions synero vs maidsafe? Worth investing?

    MaidSafe started getting funds by the CEO as far as I know (from family & friends) by 5 million dollars then the Crowdsale was so successful (they got 7$ million in five hours) and now they are now using BankToTheFuture . So in terms of funding , MaidSafe was better.
    In my opinion , both worth investing but MaidSafe (decentralized internet) will be probably more successful as It offers better much better stuff than simply a Decentralized Social media website (Synereo). It's just a matter of time till MaidSafe price will skyrocket, for the moment there is no use for it but once the real version is released , It will increase.


    I agree, for Synero it's their first funding as far as I know. Nou doubt they're doing a great job with it. And it's blockchain based. The blockchain got hyped to the max and still family and friends are sending me articles about it from the conventional media. Maidsafe uses no blockchain but is implementing the Datachain. It's technically quite hard to understand but it allows for proof that a files exists (like Factom) and allows version updates as well. It's like 1 big merkle tree of hashes which can be updated (if needed) as well. As all the hashes are linked each group of the network becomes responsible for a particular address range. Even after a total blackout the nodes can rebuild everything from scratch.

    https://metaquestions.me/2016/07/20/data-chains-what-why-how/

       
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    Why is synereo already overfunded in shorter time? Maidsafe made far less money in the same time.

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/synereo

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/maidsafe-net

    Any opinions synero vs maidsafe? Worth investing?

    MaidSafe started getting funds by the CEO as far as I know (from family & friends) by 5 million dollars then the Crowdsale was so successful (they got 7$ million in five hours) and now they are now using BankToTheFuture . So in terms of funding , MaidSafe was better.
    In my opinion , both worth investing but MaidSafe (decentralized internet) will be probably more successful as It offers better much better stuff than simply a Decentralized Social media website (Synereo). It's just a matter of time till MaidSafe price will skyrocket, for the moment there is no use for it but once the real version is released , It will increase.


    I agree, for Synero it's their first funding as far as I know. Nou doubt they're doing a great job with it. And it's blockchain based. The blockchain got hyped to the max and still family and friends are sending me articles about it from the conventional media. Maidsafe uses no blockchain but is implementing the Datachain. It's technically quite hard to understand but it allows for proof that a files exists (like Factom) and allows version updates as well. It's like 1 big merkle tree of hashes which can be updated (if needed) as well. As all the hashes are linked each group of the network becomes responsible for a particular address range. Even after a total blackout the nodes can rebuild everything from scratch.

    https://metaquestions.me/2016/07/20/data-chains-what-why-how/
       

    Synero had ico in 2015, first funding on BankToTheFuture site. Do you think ico as funding also?

    Maidsafe is selling the share/equity, so does synereo, synereo sold 12% while Maidsafe sold 6%

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    Why is synereo already overfunded in shorter time? Maidsafe made far less money in the same time.

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/synereo

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/maidsafe-net

    Any opinions synero vs maidsafe? Worth investing?

    MaidSafe started getting funds by the CEO as far as I know (from family & friends) by 5 million dollars then the Crowdsale was so successful (they got 7$ million in five hours) and now they are now using BankToTheFuture . So in terms of funding , MaidSafe was better.
    In my opinion , both worth investing but MaidSafe (decentralized internet) will be probably more successful as It offers better much better stuff than simply a Decentralized Social media website (Synereo). It's just a matter of time till MaidSafe price will skyrocket, for the moment there is no use for it but once the real version is released , It will increase.


    I agree, for Synero it's their first funding as far as I know. Nou doubt they're doing a great job with it. And it's blockchain based. The blockchain got hyped to the max and still family and friends are sending me articles about it from the conventional media. Maidsafe uses no blockchain but is implementing the Datachain. It's technically quite hard to understand but it allows for proof that a files exists (like Factom) and allows version updates as well. It's like 1 big merkle tree of hashes which can be updated (if needed) as well. As all the hashes are linked each group of the network becomes responsible for a particular address range. Even after a total blackout the nodes can rebuild everything from scratch.

    https://metaquestions.me/2016/07/20/data-chains-what-why-how/
       

    Synero had ico in 2015, first funding on BankToTheFuture site. Do you think ico as funding also?

    Maidsafe is selling the share/equity, so does synereo, synereo sold 12% while Maidsafe sold 6%

    Ahh yes I see. ICO is indeed funding, although not selling part of the company. 
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    Why is synereo already overfunded in shorter time? Maidsafe made far less money in the same time.

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/synereo

    https://bnktothefuture.com/pitches/maidsafe-net

    Any opinions synero vs maidsafe? Worth investing?

    MaidSafe started getting funds by the CEO as far as I know (from family & friends) by 5 million dollars then the Crowdsale was so successful (they got 7$ million in five hours) and now they are now using BankToTheFuture . So in terms of funding , MaidSafe was better.
    In my opinion , both worth investing but MaidSafe (decentralized internet) will be probably more successful as It offers better much better stuff than simply a Decentralized Social media website (Synereo). It's just a matter of time till MaidSafe price will skyrocket, for the moment there is no use for it but once the real version is released , It will increase.


    I agree, for Synero it's their first funding as far as I know. Nou doubt they're doing a great job with it. And it's blockchain based. The blockchain got hyped to the max and still family and friends are sending me articles about it from the conventional media. Maidsafe uses no blockchain but is implementing the Datachain. It's technically quite hard to understand but it allows for proof that a files exists (like Factom) and allows version updates as well. It's like 1 big merkle tree of hashes which can be updated (if needed) as well. As all the hashes are linked each group of the network becomes responsible for a particular address range. Even after a total blackout the nodes can rebuild everything from scratch.

    https://metaquestions.me/2016/07/20/data-chains-what-why-how/
       

    Synero had ico in 2015, first funding on BankToTheFuture site. Do you think ico as funding also?

    Maidsafe is selling the share/equity, so does synereo, synereo sold 12% while Maidsafe sold 6%

    Ahh yes I see. ICO is indeed funding, although not selling part of the company. 

    I consider ico/crowdfunding is a pre-seed A funding. Invest in good ico projects can be more profitable than seed funding investors or angel investors. Also, NXT, XEM, ETH these big projects don't have seed funding, angels can't buy the shares of the company, they can only buy coins to profit.

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      Any particular reason why maidsafe coin price declining ? It had a nice rise but now has been consistently dropping for almost a week?  Huh

      One reason is the new crowdfunding initiative, which entails even more dilution of old investors' capital.

      Even the dullest, most trusting person must begin to suspect something is wrong when Maid spends years burning ICO money yet produces nothing of value, and then goes back to the well asking for more funding.

      That's what happens when you try to solve too many complex problems in a v1 product.

      It's the old Xanadu Syndrome; ignore the KISS principle at your peril.


      Maybe keep your facts straight. The ICO doesn't hold any shareholder rights. This round of funding does as they're selling 6.25% of their company. StroJ did a round on BTTF as well even while they had a ICO befroe. Same for Factom. These projects are now selling real parts of their company, which isn't any different from the likes of AirBnB and Uber who even did several investment rounds. The nice thing about BTTF is that none of your cryptocoins from the ICO get diluted.

      Ohw, and Maidsafe did deliver projects. They hold some patents as well as this stuff is quite innovative.

      • DNS (decentralized Name System, crypto alternative to the current DNS)
      • Self_Encryption (This allows for caching, making popular data faster)
      • Self_Authentication (Log in to a decentralized network without sending your passwords to a server)
      • SAFE Mail (fully encrypted decentralized email with end-to-end encryption)


      Loads more to come. The real magic will be Safecoin with transactions at least 600 times faster than Bitcoin. Fully anonymous as well.[/list]

      Wow!  I can't believe Maidsafe is solving so many complex problems in a v1 product.   Roll Eyes


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        Any particular reason why maidsafe coin price declining ? It had a nice rise but now has been consistently dropping for almost a week?  Huh

        One reason is the new crowdfunding initiative, which entails even more dilution of old investors' capital.

        Even the dullest, most trusting person must begin to suspect something is wrong when Maid spends years burning ICO money yet produces nothing of value, and then goes back to the well asking for more funding.

        That's what happens when you try to solve too many complex problems in a v1 product.

        It's the old Xanadu Syndrome; ignore the KISS principle at your peril.


        Maybe keep your facts straight. The ICO doesn't hold any shareholder rights. This round of funding does as they're selling 6.25% of their company. StroJ did a round on BTTF as well even while they had a ICO befroe. Same for Factom. These projects are now selling real parts of their company, which isn't any different from the likes of AirBnB and Uber who even did several investment rounds. The nice thing about BTTF is that none of your cryptocoins from the ICO get diluted.

        Ohw, and Maidsafe did deliver projects. They hold some patents as well as this stuff is quite innovative.

        • DNS (decentralized Name System, crypto alternative to the current DNS)
        • Self_Encryption (This allows for caching, making popular data faster)
        • Self_Authentication (Log in to a decentralized network without sending your passwords to a server)
        • SAFE Mail (fully encrypted decentralized email with end-to-end encryption)


        Loads more to come. The real magic will be Safecoin with transactions at least 600 times faster than Bitcoin. Fully anonymous as well.[/list]

        Wow!  I can't believe Maidsafe is solving so many complex problems in a v1 product.   Roll Eyes


        Wow, are those 1428 posts all FUD ?
        Or just the last 1137 ones ?

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          Any particular reason why maidsafe coin price declining ? It had a nice rise but now has been consistently dropping for almost a week?  Huh

          One reason is the new crowdfunding initiative, which entails even more dilution of old investors' capital.

          Even the dullest, most trusting person must begin to suspect something is wrong when Maid spends years burning ICO money yet produces nothing of value, and then goes back to the well asking for more funding.

          That's what happens when you try to solve too many complex problems in a v1 product.

          It's the old Xanadu Syndrome; ignore the KISS principle at your peril.


          Maybe keep your facts straight. The ICO doesn't hold any shareholder rights. This round of funding does as they're selling 6.25% of their company. StroJ did a round on BTTF as well even while they had a ICO befroe. Same for Factom. These projects are now selling real parts of their company, which isn't any different from the likes of AirBnB and Uber who even did several investment rounds. The nice thing about BTTF is that none of your cryptocoins from the ICO get diluted.

          Ohw, and Maidsafe did deliver projects. They hold some patents as well as this stuff is quite innovative.

          • DNS (decentralized Name System, crypto alternative to the current DNS)
          • Self_Encryption (This allows for caching, making popular data faster)
          • Self_Authentication (Log in to a decentralized network without sending your passwords to a server)
          • SAFE Mail (fully encrypted decentralized email with end-to-end encryption)


          Loads more to come. The real magic will be Safecoin with transactions at least 600 times faster than Bitcoin. Fully anonymous as well.[/list]

          Wow!  I can't believe Maidsafe is solving so many complex problems in a v1 product.   Roll Eyes

          Great isn't it? as you can test all these features right now.

          https://safenetforum.org/t/safe-network-alpha-release/10687

          Here's the SAFE Mail location, it works like magic:

          https://safenetforum.org/t/safe-network-test-9-safe-mail-tutorial/11181

           
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