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September 26, 2016, 01:43:37 PM
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How can you put the Internet in the hands of the people when infrastructure and networks are still required. Would you project that the service providers get stronger and greedier over time?

The SAFE Network is fully encrypted from bit 1. Even if you connect to a bootstrap-server where you get other nodes to connect to. No service provider or ISP can see what you're doing online. It's even more than that: if the NSA hacks your router inside your house it's still all gibberish to them as the data get's encrypted inside your computer and the keys never leave your system. So the only thing the ISP's could do is block your internet. Well, good luck with that. People would switch to another ISP. And let's hope we'll see mesh networks in the coming years to get rid of ISP's as a whole.    
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September 26, 2016, 02:00:57 PM
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Campaign on Bnktothefuture is not successful. People have no trust in MAID? It is a pity because Alpha version is working. However, price of MAID is still high but I expected to see it in the range of Storj.

They said they're funded for the coming year. They're also looking at funding options next to BTTF. But it would've been great if we went to 1 million a bit faster. Maidsafe wants to grow to around 100 employees in the coming years. Other projects that use a blockchain get funded faster it seems, as the blockchain is a hype. But anyway, I'm in  Tongue and I paid with Bitcoin  Cheesy. I still hold MAID as well. My vision is that Maidsafe could become quite a big company when this tech goes big. I mean, no spam-attacks possible, no blocksize-debates needed, transactions hundreds of times faster than blockchain tech and social applications like MAIL and storage all in 1 big P2P network protected by cryptography. It took quite some time (10 years!) but they've showed me they deliver.   




Here's a video where David and Nick (Maidsafe) get interviewed by Simon Dixon (BTTF).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgM06HFIYdc


Of course I hope they succeed with this funding. They already have around 15 people working for them, but with good funding they could extend to even more.

 
 

I think that the best option is to invest in company rather than hold MAID.

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September 26, 2016, 05:37:24 PM
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This is why MaidSafe project really matters!

Pushing for Decentralized Web After A Yahoo Hack
http://www.valuewalk.com/2016/09/yahoo-hack-emails/

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September 27, 2016, 10:51:43 AM
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https://safenetforum.org/t/top-8-reasons-to-invest-in-maidsafe-shares/11303

Still kinda shocked more people aren't falling over themselves to get in on this.

I guess other people don't like money or freedom as much as I do...

if you hate money and freedom then DO NOT invest in the SAFE network Wink
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September 27, 2016, 10:57:54 AM
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In this Episode

Today we have an in-depth visit with Nick Lambert, COO of MaidSafe, covering a lot about where MaidSafe has been, where it’s gotten to and where it’s going. With the Bank to the Future equity crowd funding pitch in play, we dig in to find out how MaidSafe, as an open source, very altruistically oriented company, is likely to be profitable enough to invest in. This is a very well rounded, very informative coverage of MaidSafe and the SAFE Network, accessible to most anyone whether they are familiar with the SAFE Network or not. Whether you’re looking to be directly involved on an equity level or not, frank questions are asked and answered, and you may get a very new view of this project.

SAFE Crossroads Podcast#34, What’s to Profit? with Nick Lambert


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September 27, 2016, 02:42:07 PM
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Does Maidsafe have any contingency plans in the event that they fail to raise the minimum investment amount? Assuming they have enough funds to continue development until the end of the year, what happens after that? It is obvious they still have quite a way to go in terms of development, as they wouldn't be pushing so hard to secure additional funding if they had an official release in the pipeline for the near future.
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September 27, 2016, 04:15:55 PM
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Does Maidsafe have any contingency plans in the event that they fail to raise the minimum investment amount? Assuming they have enough funds to continue development until the end of the year, what happens after that? It is obvious they still have quite a way to go in terms of development, as they wouldn't be pushing so hard to secure additional funding if they had an official release in the pipeline for the near future.

They still have quite some MAID from the 2014 crowdsale. They are in Alpha stage now, this is where everyone can use and try out the software with nice GUI's and installers. In the coming months they will go from Alpha to BETA. This means: Vaults complete so everybody can run from home. Safecoin built in and active, several Apps and more. I expect the MAID price to jump when they deliver what's on the roadmap. So if the MAID price doubles they might last 2 years on the amount they have. If it triples they might be able to survive even 3 years with current holdings. That doesn't mean they don't want more investors. They are talking for several weeks now about deals with other companies and what more. No idea what it is, could be hardware or something else. They also look for investors besides from BTTF. So they will deliver a BETA network without a doubt. Let's hope it becomes big and see MAID go wild. But I hope they find investors as well. That way they can hire more people.   
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September 27, 2016, 06:18:21 PM
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MaidSafe Dev Update 27th September 2016


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September 28, 2016, 12:30:28 PM
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Kim Dotcom looks to the SAFE Network for storage of Megaupload 2.0 data.

Forum link including link to BTTF page
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September 28, 2016, 12:51:42 PM
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Where could I store my MAIDSAFECOINS right now ? Is it safe to buy them from Poloniex and keep them there ? because I read somewhere that I could store them in my Bitcoin address ? which I can't seem to understand.
Another question , to buy SAFE domains , we will have to buy using Safecoins If I'm correct ? we are going to pay who exactly ? also Is it possible to transfer domains for Safecoins (selling/buying domains) with individuals ? If possible too , could you list everything we will be able to buy/sell using Safecoins please ? I want to see the potentials of the coins.

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September 28, 2016, 01:30:43 PM
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Where could I store my MAIDSAFECOINS right now ? Is it safe to buy them from Poloniex and keep them there ? because I read somewhere that I could store them in my Bitcoin address ? which I can't seem to understand.
Another question , to buy SAFE domains , we will have to buy using Safecoins If I'm correct ? we are going to pay who exactly ? also Is it possible to transfer domains for Safecoins (selling/buying domains) with individuals ? If possible too , could you list everything we will be able to buy/sell using Safecoins please ? I want to see the potentials of the coins.

MAID lives on the Bitcoin blockchain right now as an alt-coin. So MAID isn't the same as Safecoin which will be released later on on the SAFE Network. MAID is a proxy so to speak, it can be exchanged later 1-on-1 to Safecoin. I store a lot of my coins on https://www.omniwallet.org The log in name and password for that account never leave your computer. Make sure to store your wallet offline as well from that website. Another option is a cold wallet. The key is: make sure you always have the private key for your bitcoinaddress where you store your MAID. Don't use multisig. 

If you buy SAFE domains or PUT (upload data) to the network you actually give up ownership of the Safecoins. It's a bit like burning, although on SAFE these coins can be Farmed again later on when a Vault does a farming attempt and the address comes out when a random address is chosen by the data_managers. Transferring domains should be possible (maybe later on) as all addresses on SAFE can be exchanged by users. This is true for Safecoin, Domains, ownership of a piece of data and more.

Safecoin > can be farmed when you deliver data to the network. Can be used to pay for storage (PUT) of private and public data on the network. Can be exchanged between people. Can be used to tip a writer of a nice blog. Can be used to buy domains. Can be used to prevent spammers by forcing other users to pay you some Safecoin when they message/mail you.  

  
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September 29, 2016, 01:21:59 AM
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Since MaidSafe is building its own network, so to speak, and email will be a part of it, won't that open the door for any type of app?

Meaning phone calls, video conferencing etc.?

It concerns me, however, that MaidSafecoins currently live on the Bitcoin Blockchain.

If BTC hits the skids, will that necessarily eradicate MAID's?

Seems like the SafeCoins need to come online sooner, rather than later.
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September 29, 2016, 11:13:19 AM
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Since MaidSafe is building its own network, so to speak, and email will be a part of it, won't that open the door for any type of app?

Meaning phone calls, video conferencing etc.?

It concerns me, however, that MaidSafecoins currently live on the Bitcoin Blockchain.

If BTC hits the skids, will that necessarily eradicate MAID's?

Seems like the SafeCoins need to come online sooner, rather than later.

Yes all those app's can be made on the safe network, think also on a cheaper Twitter, Facebook, Youtube
But they are now working the Api's out that will become better and better and easier to adopt for everyone.
Also developers can run there apps just by copy from the "normal internet" one to the maidsafe network and
run them much cheaper.

That maidsafe is running on the bitcoin blockchain is no problem at all, cause the bitcoin price doesnt matter
it's just a omni token and keeps it true value, besides i think no one is concerned that bitcoin will be gone in lets say 6 months.

Safecoin will be unique anno and fast and scalable, i rather want them to take their time and sort everything perfectly we all
know how the DAO ended up.

Eventually i really see maidsafe outbeat bitcoin in the future on market cap.

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September 29, 2016, 11:27:52 AM
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........ besides i think no one is concerned that bitcoin will be gone in lets say 6 months.

Eventually i really see maidsafe outbeat bitcoin in the future on market cap.

You need a reboot, Mrboot  Roll Eyes
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September 29, 2016, 11:37:15 AM
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........ besides i think no one is concerned that bitcoin will be gone in lets say 6 months.

Eventually i really see maidsafe outbeat bitcoin in the future on market cap.

You need a reboot, Mrboot  Roll Eyes

Thats also what people said when i said it about Ethereum, Maidsafe will be bigger then both.
Bitcoin need a lot of work if it wants to stay the top coin

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September 29, 2016, 11:49:23 AM
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Where could I store my MAIDSAFECOINS right now ? Is it safe to buy them from Poloniex and keep them there ? because I read somewhere that I could store them in my Bitcoin address ? which I can't seem to understand.
Another question , to buy SAFE domains , we will have to buy using Safecoins If I'm correct ? we are going to pay who exactly ? also Is it possible to transfer domains for Safecoins (selling/buying domains) with individuals ? If possible too , could you list everything we will be able to buy/sell using Safecoins please ? I want to see the potentials of the coins.

MAID lives on the Bitcoin blockchain right now as an alt-coin. So MAID isn't the same as Safecoin which will be released later on on the SAFE Network. MAID is a proxy so to speak, it can be exchanged later 1-on-1 to Safecoin. I store a lot of my coins on https://www.omniwallet.org The log in name and password for that account never leave your computer. Make sure to store your wallet offline as well from that website. Another option is a cold wallet. The key is: make sure you always have the private key for your bitcoinaddress where you store your MAID. Don't use multisig. 

If you buy SAFE domains or PUT (upload data) to the network you actually give up ownership of the Safecoins. It's a bit like burning, although on SAFE these coins can be Farmed again later on when a Vault does a farming attempt and the address comes out when a random address is chosen by the data_managers. Transferring domains should be possible (maybe later on) as all addresses on SAFE can be exchanged by users. This is true for Safecoin, Domains, ownership of a piece of data and more.

Safecoin > can be farmed when you deliver data to the network. Can be used to pay for storage (PUT) of private and public data on the network. Can be exchanged between people. Can be used to tip a writer of a nice blog. Can be used to buy domains. Can be used to prevent spammers by forcing other users to pay you some Safecoin when they message/mail you.  

  

Do you mind explaining the bold part ? private and public data means that private gives the ability to download for you only and public is downloadable by others ? (you should give some sort of a link or something) ?
As for the omniwallet , do you mind giving details as I didn't fully understand. Should I make an account there or download the Github and run it offline ? and where should I sent ? to a BTC address ?

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September 29, 2016, 11:56:35 AM
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Where could I store my MAIDSAFECOINS right now ? Is it safe to buy them from Poloniex and keep them there ? because I read somewhere that I could store them in my Bitcoin address ? which I can't seem to understand.
Another question , to buy SAFE domains , we will have to buy using Safecoins If I'm correct ? we are going to pay who exactly ? also Is it possible to transfer domains for Safecoins (selling/buying domains) with individuals ? If possible too , could you list everything we will be able to buy/sell using Safecoins please ? I want to see the potentials of the coins.

MAID lives on the Bitcoin blockchain right now as an alt-coin. So MAID isn't the same as Safecoin which will be released later on on the SAFE Network. MAID is a proxy so to speak, it can be exchanged later 1-on-1 to Safecoin. I store a lot of my coins on https://www.omniwallet.org The log in name and password for that account never leave your computer. Make sure to store your wallet offline as well from that website. Another option is a cold wallet. The key is: make sure you always have the private key for your bitcoinaddress where you store your MAID. Don't use multisig. 

If you buy SAFE domains or PUT (upload data) to the network you actually give up ownership of the Safecoins. It's a bit like burning, although on SAFE these coins can be Farmed again later on when a Vault does a farming attempt and the address comes out when a random address is chosen by the data_managers. Transferring domains should be possible (maybe later on) as all addresses on SAFE can be exchanged by users. This is true for Safecoin, Domains, ownership of a piece of data and more.

Safecoin > can be farmed when you deliver data to the network. Can be used to pay for storage (PUT) of private and public data on the network. Can be exchanged between people. Can be used to tip a writer of a nice blog. Can be used to buy domains. Can be used to prevent spammers by forcing other users to pay you some Safecoin when they message/mail you.    

Do you mind explaining the bold part ? private and public data means that private gives the ability to download for you only and public is downloadable by others ? (you should give some sort of a link or something) ?
As for the omniwallet , do you mind giving details as I didn't fully understand. Should I make an account there or download the Github and run it offline ? and where should I sent ? to a BTC address ?

Just go to https://www.omniwallet.org and make a wallet. Very easy. You'll get a bitcoin address where you can store your MAID as well. They have an option to download a backup of your wallet.

About Private and Public data, you are correct. Private is just like dropbox. You store some files and it's there. Public is an option so you can share data (like a website) with other. Here's the link to the Alpha network. You can test it all out right now.

https://safenetforum.org/t/safe-network-alpha-release/10687
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September 29, 2016, 12:00:00 PM
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For the devs out there. Maidsafe released a website full of API documentation and examples with code.

https://api.safedev.org/


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September 29, 2016, 12:10:47 PM
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@ zeeman and Mrboot:

Great info. Thanks.

I was thinking -- as noobs often do -- about inbound/outbound traffic.

Meaning, will the current internet, let me call it "OldNet," be able to communicate with MaidSafe or what I'll call "NewNet."

Could I send an email from NewNet to my Gmail account on OldNet or vice versa?

In doing this, will OldNet be able to track me in some way? (I'm sure they could sensor incoming emails like they censor so much else.)

Or are NewNet and OldNet incompatible?

If they are incompatible, I'm sure some bright programmer will devise some type of mixing/interpretation app to send/receive from OldNet to NewNet...right?
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Hi all, long time ago i sent Maid tokens from exchange to Electrum wallet instead of Omni. Can i get them somehow with priv key or i lost them?
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