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April 04, 2016, 08:34:42 PM
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Here's the latest Dev-Update:

MaidSafe Dev Update 29th March 2016

Follow the development through GitHub/Maidsafe.


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April 04, 2016, 09:42:27 PM
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yes , the only things that counts is being worked so jumpers gonna jump fudders gonna fuuud

Here's the latest Dev-Update:

MaidSafe Dev Update 29th March 2016

Follow the development through GitHub/Maidsafe.


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April 05, 2016, 07:22:59 PM
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Here's the latest Dev-Update:

MaidSafe Dev Update 5th April 2016

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As everyone who regularly follows these updates will be aware, getting the MVP out is taking a bit longer than we all expected; just now this is mainly due to bugs that we are seeing with uTP, issues that are not reproduced using TCP. So as the Crust team continues to work on these issues the decision has been taken to slightly change direction with the MVP and initially release a TCP only MVP. This may require a little more manual set-up from the user side, but it was felt better to keep the rolling release schedule erm… rolling - rather than lose momentum,as the guys are currently testing this and seeing very positive results. So to be as transparent as we always try to be: the first MVP is going to be initially TCP only, with uTP support to follow.

As you may be aware uTP is a layer on UDP that allows reliable transfer of data, while also allowing better NAT traversal than TCP. Utorrent uses this, but many in that community still use TCP as it’s 20% quicker. uTP following TCP is therefore sensible and it allows all the other libraries and the resources we were pouring into Crust to be pushed into the Client APIs and Beta features (messaging / safecoin / advanced data handling, etc). This is now where we will once more see much faster delivery of components to the community, so we are delighted and excited to be again looking at the innovations and features that will make SAFE very complete and more efficient.
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April 05, 2016, 11:36:02 PM
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Here's the latest Dev-Update:

MaidSafe Dev Update 5th April 2016

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getting the MVP out is taking a bit longer than we all expected

the decision has been taken to slightly change direction with the MVP and initially release a TCP only MVP.

Another Fail and yet more delay?  What a surprise!  I'm shocked to find out one does not simply reinvent TCP.   Shocked

Putting Kademlia on TCP was done successfully 14 years ago.  It's called eDonkey and Skype and Limewire and Freenet.  So much for Maid's blue sky dream of making (and collecting rent from) their own pay-to-play TAWP SEKRIT internet with blackjack and hookers.

Unbelievable it would take Maid 10 years to make yet another 2nd gen p2p platform, with some trendy NOW WITH MOAR BLOCKCHAIN stuff pasted on for fundraising and marketing purposes.   Roll Eyes


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April 06, 2016, 01:12:04 AM
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I am invested in a number of coin/token projects, and always interested in diversifying. But the behaviour and community of a particular coin is a very big factor in my decisions. Maidsafe and SEC I am all over.

Monero looks interesting and would probably be on my list of investments but I see the same individual trolling in numerous threads I'm in, and that has shut me down to investing into Monero. Probably there is a great community over at XMR but I just am not interested in checking it out as it has left a bad taste in my mouth.

I have no time, energy, or passion for debate, but it is possible that you (Icebreaker) might be doing your Monero community harm. Or I could be wrong, but just my 2 cents....

Cool story bro.  I like the part where you deflect criticism of Maid's failure to launch by preemptively rage-quitting a completely unrelated project.

We can't expect a noob like you to be aware of it, but I was speaking my mind long before Monero existed and won't stop just to appease some whining pleb nobody.

Wow, Maid is still struggling to implement Kademlia on TCP.  And you think they have a chance of reinventing a New & Improved UDP layer?  Good luck with that.  What the world really needs right now is yet another entry on this list:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anonymous_P2P#List_of_anonymous_P2P_networks_and_clients

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April 06, 2016, 11:42:26 AM
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I will NEVER invest or do ANYTHING with respect to the troll-coin that iCEBREAKER continually talks about. iCEBREAKER is constantly spamming and trolling and several threads. I refuse to quote the troll-coin and nor should you.

Dash - Fast, anonymous, digital cash.  http://www.dash.org
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April 06, 2016, 04:53:35 PM
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The founder of Maidsafe wrote several replies to the last Dev-Update. This is what's coming:

In the coming weeks.

  • We'll go from the centralized 50 little servers at Maidsafe to a decentralized global network.
  • Next to a client people can run Vaults as well. This is when it does become a truly P2P/testnet.
  • Users can log on to the network like it´s possible right now.
  • Users can register their own URL in the DNS like is possible right now.
  • The 5 mb. limit will be slowly moved up to allow bigger files.



Here´s the link

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I will NEVER invest or do ANYTHING with respect to the troll-coin that iCEBREAKER continually talks about. iCEBREAKER is constantly spamming and trolling and several threads. I refuse to quote the troll-coin and nor should you.

I like the part where you deflect criticism of Maid's outdated design and failure to launch on schedule by shooting the messenger.

We can't expect a noob like you to be aware of it, but I was speaking my mind before 99.99% of all altcoins existed and won't stop just to appease some whining pleb nobody.

Don't forget to rage-dump all your BTC and rage-quit Bitcoin because I continually talk about block size, Satoshi, cypherpunks, etc.

What's that?  You were just blathering empty promises and forgot I've owned BTC since 2011, but are not actually willing to act on them?  Yah, that's what I figured.  It happens a lot, but the stupidity of LOLcows never gets old.   Grin


The founder of Maidsafe wrote

In the coming weeks.®

 Cheesy


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April 07, 2016, 10:09:30 AM
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I really would like to thank iCEBREAKER for all his FUD. I hope he can talk the price down a bit more. Thanks! I'll buy some extra at these prices  Tongue

Someone has a decentralized forum POC running on the system. It's called Decorum and it's already operational. It uses hashes of posts to link replies.




Another user is building a BitTorrent killer called : Safelists



The community jumps on this technology so we should see more live and working Apps soon  Grin

 
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Nice job! Looks ok for a PoC

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April 08, 2016, 11:13:47 AM
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I will NEVER invest or do ANYTHING with respect to the troll-coin that iCEBREAKER continually talks about. iCEBREAKER is constantly spamming and trolling and several threads. I refuse to quote the troll-coin and nor should you.

I like the part where you deflect criticism of Maid's outdated design and failure to launch on schedule by shooting the messenger.

We can't expect a noob like you to be aware of it, but I was speaking my mind before 99.99% of all altcoins existed and won't stop just to appease some whining pleb nobody.

Don't forget to rage-dump all your BTC and rage-quit Bitcoin because I continually talk about block size, Satoshi, cypherpunks, etc.

What's that?  You were just blathering empty promises and forgot I've owned BTC since 2011, but are not actually willing to act on them?  Yah, that's what I figured.  It happens a lot, but the stupidity of LOLcows never gets old.   Grin


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In the coming weeks.®

 Cheesy

well maybe if your replies werent so pointed and even biased we'd consider your replies seriously. but we all know what ur doing. ur like "obvious.. troll is obvious". none of the information uve posted on the forum in your argument is useful, or even relevant to maid. its a shame, uve been working so hard to market other options to maid community and the price has barely moved in all that time. also not one of those options can replace maid for what it's intended to be. maid's uniqueness is in it's structure. maid longevity is in the time and dedication put in by the devs thus far with positive results at every new turn. this is why i have invested in maid. ive invested in maid's longterm goals as an early investor. not any of the things you've pointed out or are trying to point out anyway. lol. the things you're pointing to arent even reasons anyone would care to consider whether investing short or long. lol such noob troll.
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April 08, 2016, 10:04:33 PM
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What he does not understand is the fact that he is ruining his own coin with his stupid actions in other threads. I have checked once his fudcoin, but when i found out he was behind it i clicked everything away and never looked back into it. I do not want to support a coin with such backers behind it.

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What he does not understand is the fact that he is ruining his own coin with his stupid actions in other threads. I have checked once his fudcoin, but when i found out he was behind it i clicked everything away and never looked back into it. I do not want to support a coin with such backers behind it.

It's funny that you are such a n00b you don't even know I've been here since long before anyone ever heard of Monero.

But please, by all means try to hold that completely unrelated project hostage and threaten it with Serious Consequences for the crime of one of its boosters having an honest (and well-informed) negative opinion about MAID.

Good luck double-charging everyone for internet access.  I'm sure we're all eager to abandon the plethora of working and tested free alternatives already available on standard plain old TCP/IP.

Oh wait, even MAID is resorting to using TCP since its UDP ambitions greatly exceeded the reach of its devs' technological grasp.   Grin Grin

Thanks for the 90s nostalgia.  I had forgotten about Kad's XOR 'logical distance' measurement.  Fascinating subject, that old stuff from the Golden Age of P2P.  MAID gonna bring back DHT like it's a fucking Oasis reunion!   Cool


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I don't care how long you are here...you are acting like a little kid. Just stop with that, please (did you read that....i said please?). I'm not trying to insult you (like you do), but just pointing you for your actions. It's childish, unprofessional and certainly not friendly. And not only in this thread, but in all the threads where you fud the projects down. Why not just respect everyone's work and their effort in the crypto world? We are all trying to do something what Satoshi started. And that is being a part of a new environment which could change the world and it's creepy establishment.

So again, as adult to adult....can you please stop your nonsense? I would highly appreciate it and i think most of us would.

Thank you!

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I don't care how long you are here...you are acting like a little kid. Just stop with that, please (did you read that....i said please?). I'm not trying to insult you (like you do), but just pointing you for your actions. It's childish, unprofessional and certainly not friendly. And not only in this thread, but in all the threads where you fud the projects down. Why not just respect everyone's work and their effort in the crypto world? We are all trying to do something what Satoshi started. And that is being a part of a new environment which could change the world and it's creepy establishment.

So again, as adult to adult....can you please stop your nonsense? I would highly appreciate it and i think most of us would.

Thank you!

I came to this thread to ask questions but instead of substantial, responsive answers there was only defensiveness and hostility.

You spend way more time gossiping about *me* and critiquing my motivations than you do discussing my concerns about MAID.

Respect is earned, yet you seem to believe it's the default position.  Nope, that's not how it works.

Many projects richly deserve FUD.  Neucoin.  Paycoin.  Cryptsy.  Dash.  Maid.  Don't like that?  Too bad.  GFY and CRY MOAR PLZ.   Kiss

For reference, here is my first post on this thread, which still hasn't been properly addressed:

Is there a another thread for SafeCoin?

How are SafeCoins made safe and anonymous?


Ring signatures?  CoinJoin?  Something new?


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  Too bad.  GFY and CRY MOAR PLZ.   Kiss
You were asked to stop being a child. And you were asked respectfully. Why does an intelligent man need to include this ^^^ kind of pathetic nonsense?

This 'earning respect' thingy. Lecture the readers a little more, on how this works for you.   
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You were asked to stop being a child. And you were asked respectfully. Why does an intelligent man need to include this ^^^ kind of pathetic nonsense?

This 'earning respect' thingy. Lecture the readers a little more, on how this works for you.   

The problem is that SafeCoins are not actually safe.

They use the radically transparent Bitcoin blockchain, so they are easily traceable/linkable/public.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of using an encrypted P2P VPN like Maid?

It would be like requiring Paypal to use TOR.  Bad idea.


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April 10, 2016, 02:33:41 PM
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maybe , not , the SYSTEM is NOT ready ,thanks to be precise but it is in the works.
as any project , even BTC isn't ready , but let already use virtual credit card to prepay a Tesla 3:

https://news.bitcoin.com/pre-ordering-tesla-3-bitcoin/

i think what is said is enough

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April 10, 2016, 06:56:24 PM
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You were asked to stop being a child. And you were asked respectfully. Why does an intelligent man need to include this ^^^ kind of pathetic nonsense?

This 'earning respect' thingy. Lecture the readers a little more, on how this works for you.   

The problem is that SafeCoins are not actually safe.

They use the radically transparent Bitcoin blockchain, so they are easily traceable/linkable/public.

Doesn't that defeat the purpose of using an encrypted P2P VPN like Maid?

It would be like requiring Paypal to use TOR.  Bad idea.

There's a difference between Maidsafecoin and Safecoin which you don't get. Maidsafecoin was the "proxy coin" for the crowdsale. Safecoin will be implemented on the SAFE Network. And for Safecoin no blockchain is used. So when you send your Maidsafecoin to an address provided by Maidsafe, they'll send you your Safecoin over the SAFE Network. Another option probably is that exchanges like Poloniex will do the switch. Once on Safenet no one can trace any coins back to you. There's no blockchain on that system. No way to send a request and see which address has how many coins. You could make 150 new addresses in your wallet all owned by you an nobody has a clue who the owner is. You could even make a temporarily account on SAFE just to get the coins. Once you have them you send them to your real account and nobody has a clue you did it.

   
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April 10, 2016, 06:57:27 PM
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There is a Project Decorum Crowdsale going on now if you guys are interested:

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1432872.0

https://forum.safenetwork.io/t/project-decorum-crowdsale/8474

http://icocountdown.com

Never miss a crowdsale again!

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