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October 26, 2014, 12:39:58 PM
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The "What anonymous coin will succeed?" poll was just reset, so go and vote!: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=568166.780
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Is there enough content to fill a movie story on Monero?

for me .... we need GUI Wallet for full story

to allow the the mass consumer to install it immediately Monero Wallets after seeing the video

As long as it will take to gather materials, find someone to edit it into a workable film, and to market the release--is probably as long as the GUI will take to be ready. It's not like it would be hard to delay one so the release of both coincided. Think we should include the BCX saga; it had all the makings of good drama: mysterious bad guy, confusion, tension and then BAM!
             
                                                                                                               
               ......nothing, it ends on a comic note.


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Is there enough content to fill a movie story on Monero?

for me .... we need GUI Wallet for full story

to allow the the mass consumer to install it immediately Monero Wallets after seeing the video

As long as it will take to gather materials, find someone to edit it into a workable film, and to market the release--is probably as long as the GUI will take to be ready. It's not like it would be hard to delay one so the release of both coincided. Think we should include the BCX saga; it had all the makings of good drama: mysterious bad guy, confusion, tension and then BAM!
             
                                                                                                               
               ......nothing, it ends on a comic note.



I wonder if BCX would agree to cooperate. Or maybe hmm, he might want to be main star.

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October 26, 2014, 02:40:25 PM
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Instead of looking at movies and other distractions, how about the devs focus on strengthening XMR. The price is falling and continues to fall. There is no real GUI (except from 3rd party), the database memory issue still hasn't been solved and there is no clear direction. I'm afraid a lot of people will lose interest and move onto something else.
Let's focus on this coin and not the distractions surrounding it.

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October 26, 2014, 03:06:27 PM
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Instead of looking at movies and other distractions, how about the devs focus on strengthening XMR. The price is falling and continues to fall. There is no real GUI (except from 3rd party), the database memory issue still hasn't been solved and there is no clear direction. I'm afraid a lot of people will lose interest and move onto something else.
Let's focus on this coin and not the distractions surrounding it.


My understanding is that the database issues are being worked on actively right now. The GUI will come sometime after that. That being said, one smart PR move would be to put together a bounty or contest for graphic/web designers to update and beautify the website.
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October 26, 2014, 03:24:21 PM
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Instead of looking at movies and other distractions, how about the devs focus on strengthening XMR. The price is falling and continues to fall. There is no real GUI (except from 3rd party), the database memory issue still hasn't been solved and there is no clear direction. I'm afraid a lot of people will lose interest and move onto something else.
Let's focus on this coin and not the distractions surrounding it.


Marketing is just as important as the tech itself in terms of price. A GUI and database memory issue fix won't increase the price, in fact it might do the opposite thanks to "buy on rumour sell on news". I hope you're aware that the high emission of Monero is also really contributing to the lowering price as well.

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October 26, 2014, 03:29:16 PM
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The Monero dev team has shown time and again, that they are superbly focused on items that concern the core of Monero fundamentals & security, and have been improving the code base with each release. It should be very clear for everyone, that Monero needs a lot of development work before it can be called "mature", in any sense of the word.

That said, cosmetic improvements or eagerness to reach a wider user base and utility, are not particularly meaningful until such time that the tools are in place for ease of use, accessibility & user convenience. The necessary work is underway.

I would just like to take a moment to appreciate one critical difference between the Monero dev team, and what I've observed in most other coins: The Monero dev team, have shown to be solid development architects, and are clearly thinking well and through, the development decisions at each step of the way.
The keyword is architects. There are plenty of developers around, both good ones, bad ones, and anything in between. However, there are very few that can be called development architects. Those that have any intimacy with the development world will appreciate this difference, and see that this is not at all about the semantics.

In case I happen to land on some more BTC, I'll continue to increase my little Monero stash, even though I understand that Monero might very well continue on a downtrend for a while longer. I continue to mine Monero at a small pool. I'll be donating some more when I reach my next holding milestone. Join me. Or don't.

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The Monero dev team has shown time and again, that they are superbly focused on items that concern the core of Monero fundamentals & security, and have been improving the code base with each release. It should be very clear for everyone, that Monero needs a lot of development work before it can be called "mature", in any sense of the word.

That said, cosmetic improvements or eagerness to reach a wider user base and utility, are not particularly meaningful until such time that the tools are in place for ease of use, accessibility & user convenience. The necessary work is underway.

I would just like to take a moment to appreciate one critical difference between the Monero dev team, and what I've observed in most other coins: The Monero dev team, have shown to be solid development architects, and are clearly thinking well and through, the development decisions at each step of the way.
The keyword is architects. There are plenty of developers around, both good ones, bad ones, and anything in between. However, there are very few that can be called development architects. Those that have any intimacy with the development world will appreciate this difference, and see that this is not at all about the semantics.

In case I happen to land on some more BTC, I'll continue to increase my little Monero stash, even though I understand that Monero might very well continue on a downtrend for a while longer. I continue to mine Monero at a small pool. I'll be donating some more when I reach my next holding milestone. Join me. Or don't.

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i'd add: if atm there would be "too much" user-friendlyness it would keep the core devs away from their really important work on the core

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October 26, 2014, 03:39:15 PM
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Is there enough content to fill a movie story on Monero?
So far not enough. I do not want to XMR to be dramatic.
We could film miners, devs, bitcoin castle and crypto kingdom, wealthy bitcoiners who are involved with monero, the monero team, first monero pizza footage.. anything else? not much of a story yet. crypto kingdom might make a nice story though and risto's 'castle'.

Yes that could be enough for a movie.

I expect this to take at least 10-12 months from the start.

So we would have the GUI Wallet (and more) long before the movie is finished.
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October 26, 2014, 03:43:07 PM
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Is there enough content to fill a movie story on Monero?
So far not enough. I do not want to XMR to be dramatic.
We could film miners, devs, bitcoin castle and crypto kingdom, wealthy bitcoiners who are involved with monero, the monero team, first monero pizza footage.. anything else? not much of a story yet. crypto kingdom might make a nice story though and risto's 'castle'.

Yes that could be enough for a movie.

I expect this to take at least 10-12 months from the start.

So we would have the GUI Wallet (and more) long before the movie is finished.


i'd like to see moneros biggest selling point (at least for me) inside this video:

eg.
 - received salary in btc and going to a pub: owner says: haha you do only earn that much???
 - your wife: you did bought that sex toy?Huh
-> this couldnt happen with monero

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October 26, 2014, 04:01:04 PM
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Hey all. Got the wallet and everything set up, which is funny because thats the more difficult part, but I am having issues with tsiv's cryptonight fork on ccminer for 750ti's. Computers hangs upon starting, and nothing gets done.

I'm worried its a virtual memory thing; I think i remember seeing something about that, but I cannot find it now.

But my specs are

 5x 750ti
650w psu
h81 btc pro mobo
4 gb ram
g320 Intel 3 ghz cpu
30 GB ready cache SD

Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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October 26, 2014, 04:14:21 PM
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Hey all. Got the wallet and everything set up, which is funny because thats the more difficult part, but I am having issues with tsiv's cryptonight fork on ccminer for 750ti's. Computers hangs upon starting, and nothing gets done.

I'm worried its a virtual memory thing; I think i remember seeing something about that, but I cannot find it now.

But my specs are

 5x 750ti
650w psu
h81 btc pro mobo
4 gb ram
g320 Intel 3 ghz cpu
30 GB ready cache SD

Any help would be greatly appreciated.


Windows or Linux? Also, which version of drivers? Maybe when you launch it only use one device (-d 0), to see if you can even get one up and running.
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October 26, 2014, 04:31:22 PM
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i normally don't respond to trolls because these scamcoin pump and dump shills ain't worth my time, especially when they pretend to be asking shrink wrapped questions that actually carry own agenda... so i agree wholeheartedly with what iCEBREAKER said earlier as these are exactly my thoughts as well and applies to all paid or unpaid trolls...

I hope you're not directing that towards me because I haven't been throwing tantrums or making demands.  I am just stating what I believe to be the truth.  I also wonder why you would want people to leave when the best thing for Monero is MORE people adopting it and hanging onto it.  

If someone wants to whine and cry about the price they have every right to do so.  If you want to call them names and tell them to leave that's your right as well.  In the end however, a few large holders of this coin will never be enough for it to be successful.  So insulting and telling people to leave Monero is the worst thing you could do.  I saw this happen with Darkcoin where a few large holders became extremely arrogant and alienated a large portion of the people that wanted to support the coin.  I see this now happening with Monero where a few large holders think that the coin belongs to them and that others are deemed to be parasites for questioning their all knowing wisdom about things that nobody knows what the outcome will be.

It seems that a few people decided that they could take their wealth and just turn Monero into the next bitcoin.  The only way that will ever happen is by attracting supporters of this coin not alienating them.  Even then it's a long shot at best.  But best of luck with your method of attracting people to Monero.  Calling people parasites doesn't seem to be the best method however.

It was obviously directed at your FUD, most specifically these threats and ultimatums:

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If any cryptocurrency wants to be around in three years then it needs to offer something people want and it needs to offer it now.  If it doesn't it won't be around in three years, monero included.

Telling people it might take three years is like shooting yourself in the foot.  People aren't going to do that.  They are already losing patience
 as proven by the recent selling.  People want results now.  That's just a fact of life.  

The sooner the impatient and panicky weak hands sell to patient and wiser hloders the better it is for Monero, for at least two reasons.
One, the strong hands tamp down volatility, invest in the dev team, and build out the platform.  Two, the weak panicky hands will have to buy back at a higher price, which rewards forbearance.

Your comparison of XMR to DRK is invalid because the former is 100% legit while the latter is a scamcoin (complete with MadoffNodes).

It seems I struck a nerve, as you chose to respond with yet more FUD, threats, and ultimatums.  The pump-and-dump crowd you speak on behalf of and defend do have a niche in the market ecosystem, as do parasites in biology (they increase host resilience and complexity).   Cheesy

If you two individuals and your over inflated ego's would actually think before posting you would realize that I was not comparing XMR and DRK technology wise.  I was comparing the level of arrogance from some of the supporters of each coin.  You've both just proven my point. 

As soon as those "weak hands" sell you their coins the better off Monero will be.  That's your opinion not mine.  Instead of wider adoption, fewer large holders is better for Monero.  Again your opinions not mine.

Have a nice day.  Smiley

   
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October 26, 2014, 04:41:59 PM
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Is there enough content to fill a movie story on Monero?

for me .... we need GUI Wallet for full story

to allow the the mass consumer to install it immediately Monero Wallets after seeing the video

As long as it will take to gather materials, find someone to edit it into a workable film, and to market the release--is probably as long as the GUI will take to be ready. It's not like it would be hard to delay one so the release of both coincided. Think we should include the BCX saga; it had all the makings of good drama: mysterious bad guy, confusion, tension and then BAM!
             
                                                                                                               
               ......nothing, it ends on a comic note.



I wonder if BCX would agree to cooperate. Or maybe hmm, he might want to be main star.

co-starring MM88/Bluemeanie, AM/TFM, jl777, CZ, the ByteCoin/CryptoNote devs. . . yes, there's definitely enough for a movie.
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October 26, 2014, 04:54:29 PM
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So it is good  to rely on this coin?
I have a 250 h/s from my fx 6300 and 50h/s from my gt 430.
Dont know if its good for me.I already have my pc running 24/24 every day
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October 26, 2014, 05:15:26 PM
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Instead of looking at movies and other distractions, how about the devs focus on strengthening XMR. The price is falling and continues to fall. There is no real GUI (except from 3rd party), the database memory issue still hasn't been solved and there is no clear direction. I'm afraid a lot of people will lose interest and move onto something else.
Let's focus on this coin and not the distractions surrounding it.

There is no instead. It isn't like the people working on security audits or GUI or DB development or fixing bugs or anything else are going to suddenly stop working and spend a year on a movie.

Lack of exposure may at some point be a critical concern though. All the GUIs and DBs in the world are useless without other people with whom to transact.

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October 26, 2014, 05:25:34 PM
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About the movie, we can start very simply by thinking about few questions around Monero :

 - How did you discover Monero ?

 - What interested you at first ?

 - Why are you supporting it ?

 - What is your contribution on the project ?

 - How do you imagine Monero in 3 years ?

You can add or remove questions. The point is to have something interesting to say on every point.
Having different answers will show the variety of people around the project but also how united people are.
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October 26, 2014, 06:31:08 PM
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So it is good  to rely on this coin?
I have a 250 h/s from my fx 6300 and 50h/s from my gt 430.
Dont know if its good for me.I already have my pc running 24/24 every day
lol. Do not waste your poor hardware on this. It is not worth.
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October 26, 2014, 06:31:36 PM
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Hoping for a fixed release date for per KB fees in the next missive.. Smiley
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October 26, 2014, 06:53:34 PM
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I don't think I've mentioned it here yet, but I've setup a small website devoted to Monero news, reviews, etc.

https://monerobase.com

And more recently, I'm mirroring the posts to Twitter at https://twitter.com/monerobase

Thanks!

Cool stuff! I just came across it. Didn't know this existed at all!
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