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Author Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency  (Read 4669573 times)
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March 10, 2015, 06:58:45 PM
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I think this is a big misunderstanding. Since it is an official GUI, the devs just don't want to release some half-baked thing with a lot of bugs. On top of that, the official GUI wallet will not be some simplistic thing which can only send and receive, but more like an account that has a wide variety of other options as well.
Good summary. For more information, Editorial: why is the official GUI wallet not released yet


I am planning to make presentations on XMR to various alternative investment conferences over the course of the coming months.  I have seen quite a few helpful infographics, suitable for expository presentation to such audiences, but they have been scattered re-postings of material sourced elsewhere, for the most part.  Has anyone collected media assets for investor education?  If you think it is a suitable time for the investor pool to expand, it may behoove you to send me your best stuff.

this is david L's / fluffypony's coinfest estonia presentation.

https://forum.getmonero.org/14/events/188/coinfest-estonia-2015
I would also add this (requires more illustrations)

Editorial: what's so special about Monero

It is not like Privacy is a BTC killer, it will just take a portion of the market.
And remember that privacy is not mandatory with Monero. It is optional. So the argument "Bitcoin for mainsteam, Monero for the rest" doesn't hold anymore. See slide 9 on regulatory compliance of the aforementionned presentation, that I also just now exported as PNG:

Monero: the first crytocurrency to bring bank secrecy and net neutrality to the blockchain.HyperStake: pushing the limits of staking.
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March 10, 2015, 07:31:09 PM
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The other camp is flaunting this:

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March 10, 2015, 07:34:35 PM
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The other camp is flaunting this:

( snarp )


yeah I get to the second / third line and go "oh yeah thats why I don't care"  POS

< Track your bitcoins! > < Track them again! > <<< [url=https://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/1qomqt/what_a_landmark_legal_case_from_mid1700s_scotland/] What is fungibility? >>> 46P88uZ4edEgsk7iKQUGu2FUDYcdHm2HtLFiGLp1inG4e4f9PTb4mbHWYWFZGYUeQidJ8hFym2WUmWc p34X8HHmFS2LXJkf <<< Free subdomains at moneroworld.com!! >>> <<< If you don't want to run your own node, point your wallet to node.moneroworld.com, and get connected to a random node! @@@@ FUCK ALL THE PROFITEERS! PROOF OF WORK OR ITS A SCAM !!! @@@@
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March 10, 2015, 07:37:39 PM
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The other camp is flaunting this:


"smooth launch" - wut?

"html wallet" - what do they think MyMonero.com is?

"lite wallet" - what do they think MyMonero.com is?

"mobile wallet" - what do they think MyMonero.com is?

Also "anon (mixing)" is subjective, Monero inputs mix your output with other outputs, which is (by definition) mixing.

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March 10, 2015, 07:38:40 PM
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Please elucidate.  Huh
I won't. Because a) so they won't change the decision and b) naming everything public would just encourage XMR/DRK quarreling nobody wants to read.

Hah! that ship already sailed! Hmm where did I put my Titanic jpg? Cheesy


The other camp is flaunting this:

{Dumb ass chart snipped}

LOL, Ignore it they are just trying to pump themselves. It's not even worth a response.

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March 10, 2015, 08:12:37 PM
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TED talk that has connected with me.

Also, for me, connects with Monero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0HIF3SfI4#t=14

(18 minutes)

I finally watched this. Thank you, Ginger, for the link. It has also connected with me and both Sinek's "Golden Circle" as well as the "Law of Diffusion of Innovation" are very pertinent to Monero.

I would highly recommend that the Devs and all Monero Early Adopters watch the video.
I believe that the Devs are doing their thing the right way, according to the premise that people will get onboard with Monero not because it is secure, private, and untraceable; but because they believe in the tenets of security, privacy, and personal liberty.
After watching the video (and another one, "how great leaders inpire action", from the same orator) I agree. And would say (call me arrogant) that people follow the team also because "we do give a shit".

Security, privacy, personal liberty can be achieved in unethical way, with distant and haughty dev who know better than caring for the community. After all, Cryptonote is just that: we coded a great with security, privacy and personal liberty, but we disdain you that much we will fuck you with no real communication and with a huge scam (granted, as fluffy told me this morning, with 80% premine, you can't really trust ring sig, but that still leave the fucktard attitude and Bitmonero was like that).

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TED talk that has connected with me.

Also, for me, connects with Monero.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qp0HIF3SfI4#t=14

(18 minutes)

I finally watched this. Thank you, Ginger, for the link. It has also connected with me and both Sinek's "Golden Circle" as well as the "Law of Diffusion of Innovation" are very pertinent to Monero.

I would highly recommend that the Devs and all Monero Early Adopters watch the video.
I believe that the Devs are doing their thing the right way, according to the premise that people will get onboard with Monero not because it is secure, private, and untraceable; but because they believe in the tenets of security, privacy, and personal liberty.
After watching the video (and another one, "how great leaders inpire action", from the same orator) I agree. And would say (call me arrogant) that people follow the team also because "we do give a shit".

Security, privacy, personal liberty can be achieved in unethical way, with distant and haughty dev who know better than caring for the community. After all, Cryptonote is just that: we coded a great with security, privacy and personal liberty, but we disdain you that much we will fuck you with no real communication and with a huge scam (granted, as fluffy told me this morning, with 80% premine, you can't really trust ring sig, but that still leave the fucktard attitude and Bitmonero was like that).

Regarding the above, I think we need to put together a nice document regarding the history of monero. There's the one scathing summary out there, but its full of very colorful (but hilarious) language. I think newcomers to monero would appreciate knowing the full story, in case they come across trolls barking over "de-optimized miner" this or "community takeover" that. I mean, I think someone new to cryptoworld wouldn't fully understand community takeover without first comprehending how github and forking works. Hell, come to think of it, how did the fork occur? The year in review document (i think) touches on some of this... sorry i can't do more digging (at work).

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March 10, 2015, 08:47:46 PM
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1st year of Monero, e-book, 20 pages!

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It was the best year of my life!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1111 Wink
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March 10, 2015, 08:54:01 PM
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firewall problem?

I was able to sync about a month ago. I tried again today (0.8.8.6) but cant seem to connect to any peers. I am getting messages such as:
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2015-Mar-10 07:20:19.571665 [P2P7]STARTED PEERLIST IDLE HANDSHAKE
2015-Mar-10 07:20:19.571665 [P2P7]FINISHED PEERLIST IDLE HANDSHAKE

I don't think I made any changes since last month (when everything worked). Any advice is appreciated!

To the best of my knowledge my firewall settings are the same as they were 37 days ago when I last synced

Does print_cn show anything?

it appears to show an empty list:

2015-Mar-10 08:16:20.122773 Connections:
Remote Host              Peer id             Recv/Sent (inactive,sec) State                    Livetime(seconds)  


are you on windows or linux? if windows, its more likely that something may have changed since you last synced (antivirus update, some type of update, etc).

regardless of platform, I'd suggest reinstall. Just save your old files. You can even run simplewallet from your old folder after you install daemon to new folder.

I reinstalled but am still not able to sync:

initializing p2p server.....
libunbound error: cant bind socket: permission denied for 0.0.0.0

is what I am seeing when I first start the daemon... after it starts I am still getting the same errors as above

I am on Windows. I am not really worried because I have the seed in cold storage.... but I install the daemon to a new folder and the same thing happens.  I cant seem to find any firewall settings that are causing the errors.
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March 10, 2015, 08:59:58 PM
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"libunbound error: cant bind socket: permission denied for 0.0.0.0"

I would guess the port cant be bind because its already used/blocked (in the background). Try rebooting IMHO.
Just a wild guess, I dont have Windows.
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March 10, 2015, 09:01:59 PM
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"libunbound error: cant bind socket: permission denied for 0.0.0.0"

I would guess the port cant be bind because its already used/blocked (in the background). Try rebooting IMHO.
Just a wild guess, I dont have Windows.

I think it binds a new socket anyway (you can have multiple apps using libunbound) so something is preventing the app from accessing the network, could be firewall settings, maybe firewall software got upgraded and reset permissions or something.

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March 10, 2015, 09:21:40 PM
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durrrr. I can read. Good thing I only edit podcats, eh? Smiley

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Big up all podcat inna Monero massif!   Cool



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March 10, 2015, 09:32:05 PM
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durrrr. I can read. Good thing I only edit podcats, eh? Smiley

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lmao these cats are moving in perfect synch to the music I'm listening to

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March 10, 2015, 10:19:41 PM
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Please elucidate.  Huh
I won't. Because a) so they won't change the decision and b) naming everything public would just encourage XMR/DRK quarreling nobody wants to read.

Could you post a hash of the answer, and then post the answer after the fact?
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March 10, 2015, 10:44:09 PM
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I am planing to move my funds from wallet on my PC to mymonero.  What happens if mymonero goes down?
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March 10, 2015, 10:45:09 PM
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I am planing to move my funds from wallet on my PC to mymonero.  What happens if mymonero goes down?

Pitchforks and torches for Fluffy!  Cheesy Tongue

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March 10, 2015, 10:46:17 PM
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I am planing to move my funds from wallet on my PC to mymonero.  What happens if mymonero goes down?

you can use the mymonero seed with the normal wallet to access your coins.
(there will never be a mybitcoin fiasko...)

edit: seems i understand it wrong; but they are working on it (without a fee)

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March 10, 2015, 10:48:25 PM
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I am planing to move my funds from wallet on my PC to mymonero.  What happens if mymonero goes down?

Actually you can have your moneros in your PC and mymonero at the same time.

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MyMonero has added existing wallet import functionality. Just use your 25 word mnemonic from simplewallet when logging in, and after paying the 10 XMR once-off fee your wallet will be available in MyMonero.

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Ok. Fantastic, that was the answer I was looking for. Thanks.
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