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February 13, 2015, 03:18:37 PM
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I will setup an SMF forum or something else just like bitcointalk for monero on monerotalk.com as a freebie with my domains Grin

There already was a SMF forum setup for monero by Anon336 (or whatever three numbers postcede Anon), I forget the URL (maybe it was moneroforum.org, and now that redirects to forum.monero.cc?). There's also this forum which predates the SMF one: https://monerotalk.org/ .

Is there a system for linking BBS's?

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I also agree with greek, I have no use for reddit or that style board.

The people has spoken, what will the devs do?

jokes aside, I dont think demands have much say in an open source project.

Why does the dev have to do it? As argued here already why doesn't the dev focus on Monero itself then a user, perhaps one of you who want a classic forum, can go start a classic forum. Rather than complain, execute.

We could put up 10 forums tomorrow or 10 websites tomorrow.  We already have 2-3 of each. Executing is not hard. We're trying to build a consensus here. Consensus is the hard part in an open source project.

It took 7+ months or so to build consensus and finally settle the emission issue, right? And that had nothing to do with any extra work. It was just a decision. So consensus is an area where XMR is struggling a bit. I'm not talking about work or execution

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February 13, 2015, 04:09:38 PM
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I knew, I knew. I saw david talking about registering domain names in public and was counting the hours to some parasite register them all and come back asking for a ransom, here is my free sugestion to the devs: dump all other domains and stick to monero.cc subdomains and consider all other aside mymonero and xmrmonero a potential scam.

I am not apart of the core team, nor have I any close affiliation with Monero. But, I've taken precautions against just that, I'm willing to give free domains (Yes, they are high quality) to anyone wanting to build websites revolving around Monero, simply to combat domain ransoming this early on in the game.
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February 13, 2015, 04:15:59 PM
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I knew, I knew. I saw david talking about registering domain names in public and was counting the hours to some parasite register them all and come back asking for a ransom, here is my free sugestion to the devs: dump all other domains and stick to monero.cc subdomains and consider all other aside mymonero and xmrmonero a potential scam.

I am not apart of the core team, nor have I any close affiliation with Monero. But, I've taken precautions against just that, I'm willing to give free domains (Yes, they are high quality) to anyone wanting to build websites revolving around Monero, simply to combat domain ransoming this early on in the game.

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February 13, 2015, 04:33:06 PM
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I Dropped the price

How about dropping the ransom attempts?
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February 13, 2015, 04:37:36 PM
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Dedicated XMR Forum should be the responsibility of MEW, but they are too interested in playing a game.

And xmrmonero.com, FOR FUCK SAKE!

https://xmrmonero.com/forum/

And been announced, people posted on it. And we even discussed two days ago about the new name.

Yeah, playing a game... What if you posted there instead, mmh?

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February 13, 2015, 04:54:28 PM
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I Dropped the price

How about dropping the ransom attempts?

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February 13, 2015, 05:50:12 PM
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GTO911: This topic is for monero discussion, there is a marketplace subforum to sell your shitty domains.

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February 13, 2015, 05:52:18 PM
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Code:
Error: wallet failed to connect to daemon (http://localhost:18081). Daemon either is not started or passed wrong port. Please, make sure that daemon is running or restart the wallet with correct daemo
n address.

what can i do? wallet seems to work, but the messages annoys me

I am on windows and i start monero like this:

Code:
@echo off
tasklist /FI "IMAGENAME eq bitmonerod.exe" 2>NUL | find /I /N "bitmonerod.exe">NUL
  if not %ERRORLEVEL% == 0 (
  echo Starting node...
  start /MIN bitmonerod.exe
  else (
     echo Node already started.
)

tasklist /FI "IMAGENAME eq simplewallet.exe" 2>NUL | find /I /N "simplewallet.exe">NUL
if not %ERRORLEVEL% == 0 (
  if exist x.keys (
    echo Starting previous save...
    start simplewallet.exe --wallet x
) else (
    echo Starting new save...
    start simplewallet.exe
  )
) else (
    echo wallet already started.
)

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February 13, 2015, 06:09:51 PM
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Wink

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I can't stand "infinite scrolling" either. It's a feature I find to be very annoying for the most part (there are exceptions where it can serve a purpose, such as google image search). The problem I have with it is that I can't go to a particular page without scrolling endlessly. There are times when I want to lookup a discussion, and say there are 50 pages, I know it's likely to be somewhere around 30-40, with pagination I can make some guess and narrow it down fairly quick, but with infinite scroll I will have to scroll endlessly through page 1-30 or 50-40 before I can start my search. Another scenario could be you're reading a thread and are on page 30 (or in this case, far into your "scroll") and by accident you close the page or (god forbid) you are stupid enough to click a link without "open in new windows". Now you're left to wonder where you left of.

Heh - the Markdown thing was a jab, but seriously it's so much better than BBCode and raw HTML for posts, and it's a LOT easier for us to handle security implications.

On the infinite scrolling thing, we already handle pagination if you browse with JavaScript disabled:


JS enabled


JS disabled

We can definitely add a user setting to disable infinite scrolling in lieu of pagination.

We'll have to give some thought as to how we highlight jumped-to comments in short threads.
That's excellent, shouldn't be too much of an issue to enable it then, if already created for non-js browsers.

Maybe I'm old fashioned, but I can't stand "infinite scrolling" either. It's a feature I find to be very annoying for the most part (there are exceptions where it can serve a purpose, such as google image search). The problem I have with it is that I can't go to a particular page without scrolling endlessly. There are times when I want to lookup a discussion, and say there are 50 pages, I know it's likely to be somewhere around 30-40, with pagination I can make some guess and narrow it down fairly quick, but with infinite scroll I will have to scroll endlessly through page 1-30 or 50-40 before I can start my search. Another scenario could be you're reading a thread and are on page 30 (or in this case, far into your "scroll") and by accident you close the page or (god forbid) you are stupid enough to click a link without "open in new windows". Now you're left to wonder where you left of.

Try remember how long it took you to scroll down versus if you were on page 30 or not. You can't even remember the location of your scroll bar since there is no such thing as "half down the page" with infinite scroll.

As for my main concern (order), you are right, I can order it by oldest / latest. That's cool. But the quotes are not in the actual post, it's above in a tooltip, but the entire post is not displayed. So what happens if I want to read the post quoted? I have to click the link and it will take me to the post, but with infinite scroll how am I going to find my way back to the responding post? the scroll bar is useless. And it's not unreasonable to assume I want to read the quoted post of the quoted post, and as you move up you're just getting more lost.

Discourse addresses those issues.

Jeff Atwood (CodingHorror) blogged about the troubles of pagination and infinite scrolling
http://blog.codinghorror.com/the-end-of-pagination/

Robin Ward (EvilTrout) then blogged about how to "do it right" a year later
http://eviltrout.com/2013/02/16/infinite-scrolling-that-works.html


Here's an example of a long thread at Discourse
https://meta.discourse.org/t/what-is-the-most-awesome-plugin-for-discourse-that-does-not-yet-exist/31/73

The /73 is the currently viewed reply so navigating to a link and hitting back works it's updated using the javascript replaceState function to update the URL as described in EvilTrout's blog

In the lower right is a progress bar showing how far you are into a thread which upon clicking allows you to jump to a specific post, top, or bottom
Love it, that was a much better user experience.

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February 13, 2015, 08:53:59 PM
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WTF is wrong with https://forum.monero.cc/ ?
 Huh

I can't login, I ask for password recovery, it doesn't work.
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February 13, 2015, 09:04:21 PM
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WTF is wrong with https://forum.monero.cc/ ?
 Huh

I can't login, I ask for password recovery, it doesn't work.

FWIW I can login with no problem.

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February 13, 2015, 09:11:30 PM
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I just created a new account.
eff it, it was probably a mistake on my part.
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February 13, 2015, 09:24:34 PM
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WTF is wrong with https://forum.monero.cc/ ?
 Huh

I can't login, I ask for password recovery, it doesn't work.

I can't see any outgoing password recovery mails in our MailGun logs; if you used the password recovery form using an email that doesn't exist it will tell you that it's sent a password recovery email even though it hasn't. This is unfortunately a security necessity, otherwise an attacker could use the password recovery form to ascertain what email address(es) are registered.

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February 14, 2015, 03:32:03 AM
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Dedicated XMR Forum should be the responsibility of MEW, but they are too interested in playing a game.

And xmrmonero.com, FOR FUCK SAKE!

https://xmrmonero.com/forum/

And been announced, people posted on it. And we even discussed two days ago about the new name.

Yeah, playing a game... What if you posted there instead, mmh?

My bad, completely missed it and signed up now.

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February 14, 2015, 04:05:43 AM
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if you used the password recovery form using an email that doesn't exist it will tell you that it's sent a password recovery email even though it hasn't. This is unfortunately a security necessity, otherwise an attacker could use the password recovery form to ascertain what email address(es) are registered.

This is also something they discussed over at discourse recently I don't have the link at the moment but can find it if you wish. Basically they deemed it worth the slight security hit in exchange for increased user experience. Although the forgot password page may not disclose it what happens if you try registering with an email that is already in the system?

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February 14, 2015, 06:47:53 AM
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Something i wanted to say


Have been an emotional supporter since day one. But the state of affairs in here are pressing me to second thoughts. I mean what exactly is happening here? Mew making their own shitty forum while core team forum is nothing to talk about. No clear idea which website belongs to whom and where should we go to find info. And the prehistoric site designs dont do much to engage anyone.

Where is the community, where are the ideas, what is happening actually?

Only one thing i know, the db is coming and it is coming . Sigh
Dont tell me it is in testing. Where are the repeated requests by the devs to test it


These are harsh but true words. We need to Organise. We need to streamline and stop playing games.

Here is what i want to happen -

Change the mew name to Monero Foundation, the foundation will have voting to select new members, irrespective of their holdings.

Only two groups. The Foundation and the Core Team

We need a new good looking website.
We need a new good looking forum. No scratch experiments. Who got the time for that. Time is of utmost value in these times of competition.

These will be the official sites. The foundation will have a separate site and can have a private forum. Dont need two forums.

The core team needs to clearly define a timeline of things to be developed. They need to stop wasting time and pick up one thing at a time and work collaboratively on it.

To the extent of my knowledge we need the db and then the gui. We should focus on these goals only

Then the question arises of funding - there is no other way but to invite funding. So the real question is why will people fund us. We need a service like mymonero which we can sell shares of. We need to brainstorm some ideas.

All in all a scam called darkcoin is ahead of monero just because they are organized, focused, swift
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February 14, 2015, 07:06:10 AM
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I believe some people here are perfectionists, but in an environment such as thing one, temporary things should be put in place until the final design or implementation is achieved(temporary forum, temporary official website design, etc).
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February 14, 2015, 07:46:57 AM
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Here is what i want to happen -

We need a new good looking website.
We need a new good looking forum. No scratch experiments. Who got the time for that. Time is of utmost value in these times of competition.

~~ SNIP ~~

To the extent of my knowledge we need the db and then the gui. We should focus on these goals only

Don't those contradict each other?

Who's going to build the new good looking website and set up a good looking forum? Isn't that what they are working on with the custom forum being built.


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February 14, 2015, 07:55:55 AM
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Something i wanted to say
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You make some decent points.

What if we start a kickstarter campaign to make potato salad?
If a guy can gather tens of thousands of dollars for tater salad, we ought to be able to organize a campaign to fund whatever we want.

A new websites is the answer? I am not so sure, but it seems to be the buzz lately.
 
Personally, I shared on my FB page about MyMonero when it launched and offered 1 XMR to any friend who opened a wallet there. It went over like a turd in the punch bowl. I may not have the most tech-savvy bunch of FB friends but I do have some smart & successful friends, some who are in tech and whatnot, and I didn't get a single like or comment. Boo hoo.  Cry Seems we are still pretty far ahead of what I foresee as a nice adoption curve with Monero and crypto in general.

Meanwhile, @pple pay and whatever response g00gle has to it are the latest payment trends. Pay with your phone via NFC.

The Core Devs will tell us "Things take time." Of course, I understand that. But, I do have to agree that some other coins are seemingly more well-organized as a community.

The official forum is a ghost town.

So, I believe we just need to collaborate to get some stuff done as a community, outside of the Core Devs. They are busy.
What do we want to do?
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