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May 21, 2014, 09:45:20 PM |
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Scalable I guess not in an abstract sense, I would have to agree. I was only really disagreeing that it is an urgent problem. At anything close to 8x the transaction size of BTC, I don't see a crisis.
You should. Every weakness of MRO could be improved by BCN devs in a second iteration and say " hey, you know what? BCN was the original but had problems... In terms of scalability it was DOA (dead on arrival). Now we fixed those problems and we launch BCN 2.0 (another coin), with new blockchain tech etc etc, that can scale". RIP BCN1 + clones + our money. You sure anyone would trust the devs of BCN at this point? |
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xibeijan
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May 21, 2014, 09:45:35 PM |
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DarkCoin is way ahead. The Monero is just a proof-of-concept and command-line hacker only. It's far from a stable wallet that the average user can use. Miles and miles behind.
Bytecoin devs are elusive and have been mining their own coin since 2012 while everyone else was left out....
DarkCoin is the clear winner. It also has also Masternode mining which opens a new dimension for mining.... more incentive.
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May 21, 2014, 09:47:22 PM |
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DarkCoin is way ahead. The Monero is just a proof-of-concept and command-line hacker only. It's far from a stable wallet that the average user can use. Miles and miles behind. DarkCoin has also Masternode mining which opens a new dimension for mining.... more incentive.
Bytecoin devs are elusive and have been mining their own coin since 2012 while everyone else was left out....
Isn't Darkcoin closed source though? And I thought they were thinking of copying the ring signature idea as it offers enhanced anonymity? Monero is many, many times cheaper than DarkCoin too. |
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May 21, 2014, 09:49:54 PM |
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Scalable I guess not in an abstract sense, I would have to agree. I was only really disagreeing that it is an urgent problem. At anything close to 8x the transaction size of BTC, I don't see a crisis.
You should. Every weakness of MRO could be improved by BCN devs in a second iteration and say " hey, you know what? BCN was the original but had problems... In terms of scalability it was DOA (dead on arrival). Now we fixed those problems and we launch BCN 2.0 (another coin), with new blockchain tech etc etc, that can scale". RIP BCN1 + clones + our money. You sure anyone would trust the devs of BCN at this point? They have a proven track record of delivering an effective anonymous solution. If they replace premine greed with an IPO, Bitcoins will be flooding their way. Isn't Darkcoin closed source though? And I thought they were thinking of copying the ring signature idea as it offers enhanced anonymity? Monero is many, many times cheaper than DarkCoin too.
Darkcoin is opensource. DarkSend is closed source while in development. It might take a month or two to get to opensourcing, after RC3/4/final. Darkcoin has two options for V2. One is ring signatures. If it bloats the blockchain to non-scaleable levels, it'll probably take the second option. The other is encrypted transactions while mixing - or something to that effect. |
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May 21, 2014, 09:50:27 PM |
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DarkCoin is way ahead. The Monero is just a proof-of-concept and command-line hacker only. It's far from a stable wallet that the average user can use. Miles and miles behind.
So.. it is only a proof of concept because it doesn't have a GUI? Several GUIs are coming for cryptonote, a few from the bounty and two (one nice, one basic) from Boolberry devs. Max time for a fully functional GUI is two months. Basic ones will be ready well before then. There are already alpha GUIs right now. |
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May 21, 2014, 09:53:25 PM |
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DarkCoin is way ahead. The Monero is just a proof-of-concept and command-line hacker only. It's far from a stable wallet that the average user can use. Miles and miles behind. DarkCoin has also Masternode mining which opens a new dimension for mining.... more incentive.
Bytecoin devs are elusive and have been mining their own coin since 2012 while everyone else was left out....
Isn't Darkcoin closed source though? And I thought they were thinking of copying the ring signature idea as it offers enhanced anonymity? Monero is many, many times cheaper than DarkCoin too. No, it is open source... https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin . DarkCoin was originally forked from litecoin. That said, Monero likely offers a much higher degree of anonymity then afforded by DarkCoin. DarkCoin is way ahead. The Monero is just a proof-of-concept and command-line hacker only. It's far from a stable wallet that the average user can use. Miles and miles behind.
So.. it is only a proof of concept because it doesn't have a GUI? Several GUIs are coming for cryptonote, a few from the bounty and two (one nice, one basic) from Boolberry devs. Max time for a fully functional GUI is two months. Basic ones will be ready well before then. There are already alpha GUIs right now. Ya, let the GUIs come with time. I see this as a non-issue so far. The biggest thing Monero would benefit from right now, is a GPU miner. CPU-only is a guaranteed way to put the majority of the coins in the hands of criminals/botnet owners. |
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May 21, 2014, 09:57:05 PM |
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DarkCoin is way ahead. The Monero is just a proof-of-concept and command-line hacker only. It's far from a stable wallet that the average user can use. Miles and miles behind. DarkCoin has also Masternode mining which opens a new dimension for mining.... more incentive.
Bytecoin devs are elusive and have been mining their own coin since 2012 while everyone else was left out....
Isn't Darkcoin closed source though? And I thought they were thinking of copying the ring signature idea as it offers enhanced anonymity? Monero is many, many times cheaper than DarkCoin too. No, it is open source... https://github.com/darkcoinproject/darkcoin . DarkCoin was originally forked from litecoin. That said, Monero likely offers a much higher degree of anonymity then afforded by DarkCoin. DarkCoin is way ahead. The Monero is just a proof-of-concept and command-line hacker only. It's far from a stable wallet that the average user can use. Miles and miles behind.
So.. it is only a proof of concept because it doesn't have a GUI? Several GUIs are coming for cryptonote, a few from the bounty and two (one nice, one basic) from Boolberry devs. Max time for a fully functional GUI is two months. Basic ones will be ready well before then. There are already alpha GUIs right now. Ya, let the GUIs come with time. I see this as a non-issue so far. The biggest thing Monero would benefit from right now, is a GPU miner. CPU-only is a guaranteed way to put the majority of the coins in the hands of criminals/botnet owners. Darksend and the Masternode stuff is not open source  ? CPU only is fine, Darkcoin was supposed to be cpu only...but that didnt last long. It doesnt matter for a Botnet if they launch minerd or cgminer, there are tons of Botnets on Litecoin  |
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May 21, 2014, 10:00:16 PM |
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Ya, let the GUIs come with time. I see this as a non-issue so far.
I rather like the lack of a GUI. It allows me to easily discriminate which trolls I should put on ignore, and which I should proselytize. |
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May 21, 2014, 10:04:51 PM |
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If you really want to eliminate botnets, mine coins in a way that only a human can do. We can call it proof-of-work-by-human, or "a job" for short.
Alternatively, I advocate whitelisting peers. Choke them off at the network.
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Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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May 21, 2014, 10:05:38 PM |
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I'm sure Darkcoin won't depend on the Masternodes for anonymity as much once Ring Signatures and I2P are implemented. The nodes might just serve as an incentive to help maintain the network...unlike Bitcoin where hosting nodes does nothing to help you personally.
I2P, while java may introduce additional inconveniences at first, I don't see much of a threat, especially when it can be improved upon over and over with Dev's like Evan...
So overall, masternodes might be an incentive, while the I2P and Ring Signatures are the real anonymity...still leaving Darkcoin ahead of the competition.
I can see that trying to have a debate with you will be fruitless. How about you put your money where your mouth is - set a bet up on BitBet.us for 5 BTC and I'll match it with 5 BTC on the other side. We can make it simple and based on your post: Darkcoin will have the largest market share (measured by market cap excluding any premined or instamined coins) among all the cryptocurrencies focused on anonymity (including Monero, Bytecoin, and Anoncoin) in 12 months time. Let me know when it's setup and I'll throw my 5 BTC down. |
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May 21, 2014, 10:08:07 PM |
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Darkcoin will have the largest market share (measured by market cap excluding any premined or instamined coins) among all the cryptocurrencies focused on anonymity (including Monero, Bytecoin, and Anoncoin) in 12 months time. Let me know when it's setup and I'll throw my 5 BTC down.
I would take that bet as well, but not on bitbet. Via escrow. 5 BTC. Let me know. |
Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Give a man a Poisson distribution and he eats at random times independent of one another, at a constant known rate.
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May 21, 2014, 10:12:52 PM |
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Darkcoin will have the largest market share (measured by market cap excluding any premined or instamined coins) among all the cryptocurrencies focused on anonymity (including Monero, Bytecoin, and Anoncoin) in 12 months time. Let me know when it's setup and I'll throw my 5 BTC down.
I would take that bet as well, but not on bitbet. Via escrow. 5 BTC. Let me know. BitBet.us opens it up, though, to larger bets in the pool instead of it being a person-to-person deal...let's see what our dear friend "darkota" says and we can figure out if this is going to play out or go nowhere:) |
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May 21, 2014, 10:13:28 PM |
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Somebody want to tell me the command line to get a receiving address?
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May 21, 2014, 10:14:11 PM |
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Somebody want to tell me the command line to get a receiving address?
do help to get it all getaddress |
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Pale Phoenix
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May 21, 2014, 10:24:13 PM |
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Darkcoin will have the largest market share (measured by market cap excluding any premined or instamined coins) among all the cryptocurrencies focused on anonymity (including Monero, Bytecoin, and Anoncoin) in 12 months time. Let me know when it's setup and I'll throw my 5 BTC down.
I would take that bet as well, but not on bitbet. Via escrow. 5 BTC. Let me know. BitBet.us opens it up, though, to larger bets in the pool instead of it being a person-to-person deal...let's see what our dear friend "darkota" says and we can figure out if this is going to play out or go nowhere:) I like it. Put it up on Bitbet. You'll have to specify exact parameters for mkt cap (number of coins disqualified, etc.) to get the bet approved. |
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May 21, 2014, 10:34:55 PM |
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Darkcoin will have the largest market share (measured by market cap excluding any premined or instamined coins) among all the cryptocurrencies focused on anonymity (including Monero, Bytecoin, and Anoncoin) in 12 months time. Let me know when it's setup and I'll throw my 5 BTC down.
I would take that bet as well, but not on bitbet. Via escrow. 5 BTC. Let me know. BitBet.us opens it up, though, to larger bets in the pool instead of it being a person-to-person deal...let's see what our dear friend "darkota" says and we can figure out if this is going to play out or go nowhere:) Of course he won't take the bet because he's a troll. If he really thought DRK was better he wouldn't be wasting his time on this thread, for the same reason we don't all hang out on coinye's thread. We need to stop engaging these people. |
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May 21, 2014, 10:35:40 PM |
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Somebody want to tell me the command line to get a receiving address?
It's in the wallet.bin.address.txt file. Alternatively type "address" in simplewallet. Type help to see all the commands. |
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May 21, 2014, 10:42:54 PM |
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Anyone know the volume of coins in MRO that traded hands on poloniex since it got listed there? Would 250k be too high an estimate?
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May 21, 2014, 10:53:30 PM |
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Anyone know the volume of coins in MRO that traded hands on poloniex since it got listed there? Would 250k be too high an estimate?
24-hour Volume: 505.37061179 BTC / 131711.54705593 MRO Thanks, I saw that, wish they did the volume in MRO instead of BTC on the chart so I could pull more exact numbers. Trying to roughly figure out how many of the coins from people that got in early with massive hashing power were unloaded during that run up. And I guess 250k was too low I think it's somewhere between 350k and 400k. |
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May 21, 2014, 10:56:08 PM |
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Darkcoin will have the largest market share (measured by market cap excluding any premined or instamined coins) among all the cryptocurrencies focused on anonymity (including Monero, Bytecoin, and Anoncoin) in 12 months time. Let me know when it's setup and I'll throw my 5 BTC down.
I would take that bet as well, but not on bitbet. Via escrow. 5 BTC. Let me know. BitBet.us opens it up, though, to larger bets in the pool instead of it being a person-to-person deal...let's see what our dear friend "darkota" says and we can figure out if this is going to play out or go nowhere:) Of course he won't take the bet because he's a troll. If he really thought DRK was better he wouldn't be wasting his time on this thread, for the same reason we don't all hang out on coinye's thread. We need to stop engaging these people.Exactly. +1e100 |
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