[XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency

[mmortal03]

Actually, we are in luck. Bitcoin value is falling like a stone, so Monero value is falling like a stone because XMR-BTC coupling is still in effect. Even if you can buy XMR with dollars/euro.

But this time will pass, so give it some time. Bitcoin got 4 years to achieve this.
Buy some cheap monero if you got the funds to do so safely and chill.

I'd buy more moneroj if I didn't have to go through Bitcoin or any other altcoin to purchase it with dollars.

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[mmortal03]

Is Monero going to be implemented in Open bazaar?

They said it might. Any currency that is able to use multisig.

That would be perfect.

Is Monero capable of multisig?

dont know.

multi-sig: Monero already supports this in the protocol; tooling to use this will come as the Monero client improves over time.

[pa]

Is Monero going to be implemented in Open bazaar?

They said it might. Any currency that is able to use multisig.

That would be perfect.

Is Monero capable of multisig?

dont know.

multi-sig: Monero already supports this in the protocol; tooling to use this will come as the Monero client improves over time.

Cool. Thanks for the clarification.

[liteon]

xmr.pw
domain name for sale

It's registered on Namecheap.
Wanna buy? PM me.

Cheers!

[fluffypony]

veh vant zeh missives! Achtung!

 

Hah - you and me both!

Internet has been a bit spotty whilst I've been travelling, but we are busy finalising the Missive and will push it out as soon as the new Monero builds are done with testing, so within the next 12 hours at the most;)

[iourzzz]

We have few more physical Monero coins (brass, silver plated) available for free while our site is not officially launched. Please PM me if you want to get one.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/bstp1domvay61wv/new%20coin.mp4?dl=0

They look nice. Most more contrast colors then the ones i see here. But maybe that is because the dark Grey is on coin Black or i see wrong?

They just look black on this video. In reality it's silver plating reflecting the night. The grey should be little lighter on actual coins as well.

The colors are more natural at this photo:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/mu2u8fgssyl4wq4/Monero.jpg?dl=0

In order for the coin owner to spend the coin's XMR, must your website must be operational?

No. Site is only obligatory for binding the unique id of the coin with any public Monero address you have access to. Later when view key functionality is available from Monero developers you will be able to check the balance of a coin binded to that address as well. You will be also capable to transfer coins to other owners at our site.

To spend the coin balance (actually from an address you are in control of) you will need a Monero wallet and a private key of your address. For safety reasons we are not going to keep and even ask info about private keys. So coins are actually independent from the site after you bind them to an address. You should keep the info about your keys yourself.

I got this free physical Monero coin. Looks good and is quite big r= 2cm.
I see from coin this is your website https://cryptonic.net/. Will register and check it.

That's great that you got it. The site is not finished yet but very soon will be ready for public beta.
I will provide activation codes little later.

[Shrikez]

veh vant zeh missives! Achtung!

 

Hah - you and me both!

Internet has been a bit spotty whilst I've been travelling, but we are busy finalising the Missive and will push it out as soon as the new Monero builds are done with testing, so within the next 12 hours at the most;)

I was just jesting anyway. It's more curiosity than urgency.

Keep up the good work.

[binaryFate]

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/darkcoin-and-online-drug-dealers/

Over the last month, two of the dark web markets selling an anonymous, mail-order catalog of narcotics and other contraband have begun supporting darkcoin transactions. On a site called Nucleus, visitors can now use darkcoin to buy LSD, MDMA, and marijuana. On the competing market Diabolus, dealers accept it for cocaine, synthetic stimulants like ethylone and alpha-PVP, and even counterfeit Euros. Those two markets still represent only a tiny fraction of the growing dark web drug economy—most of which uses bitcoin exclusively.

We cannot wait too long before going full steam on marketing.

[dnaleor]

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/darkcoin-and-online-drug-dealers/

Over the last month, two of the dark web markets selling an anonymous, mail-order catalog of narcotics and other contraband have begun supporting darkcoin transactions. On a site called Nucleus, visitors can now use darkcoin to buy LSD, MDMA, and marijuana. On the competing market Diabolus, dealers accept it for cocaine, synthetic stimulants like ethylone and alpha-PVP, and even counterfeit Euros. Those two markets still represent only a tiny fraction of the growing dark web drug economy—most of which uses bitcoin exclusively.

We cannot wait too long before going full steam on marketing.

indeed. I'm waiting for webwallet/GUI to start actively advertising on the darknet though... it just doesn't make sense to do it now.

[superresistant]

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/darkcoin-and-online-drug-dealers/

Over the last month, two of the dark web markets selling an anonymous, mail-order catalog of narcotics and other contraband have begun supporting darkcoin transactions. On a site called Nucleus, visitors can now use darkcoin to buy LSD, MDMA, and marijuana. On the competing market Diabolus, dealers accept it for cocaine, synthetic stimulants like ethylone and alpha-PVP, and even counterfeit Euros. Those two markets still represent only a tiny fraction of the growing dark web drug economy—most of which uses bitcoin exclusively.

We cannot wait too long before going full steam on marketing.

indeed. I'm waiting for webwallet/GUI to start actively advertising on the darknet though... it just doesn't make sense to do it now.

Agree, let's wait for a stable webwallet/GUI.
Be patient everyone, I feel that it's gonna get really big.
Darkcoin bring nothing new to anonymity, it is just Bitcoin with a paying coin-mixer and constant press spamming.
Do not fall for it.

[BanditryAndLoot]

Agree, let's wait for a stable webwallet/GUI.
Be patient everyone, I feel that it's gonna get really big.

And website

[binaryFate]

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/darkcoin-and-online-drug-dealers/

Over the last month, two of the dark web markets selling an anonymous, mail-order catalog of narcotics and other contraband have begun supporting darkcoin transactions. On a site called Nucleus, visitors can now use darkcoin to buy LSD, MDMA, and marijuana. On the competing market Diabolus, dealers accept it for cocaine, synthetic stimulants like ethylone and alpha-PVP, and even counterfeit Euros. Those two markets still represent only a tiny fraction of the growing dark web drug economy—most of which uses bitcoin exclusively.

We cannot wait too long before going full steam on marketing.

indeed. I'm waiting for webwallet/GUI to start actively advertising on the darknet though... it just doesn't make sense to do it now.

Agree, let's wait for a stable webwallet/GUI.
Be patient everyone, I feel that it's gonna get really big.
Darkcoin bring nothing new to anonymity, it is just Bitcoin with a paying coin-mixer and constant press spamming.
Do not fall for it.

The danger is not that the average Joe on the bitcointalk forum falls for it, but that the black market websites operators do.
It's not always the superior technology that succeeds. Network effect is a bitch when it's against you.

[Come-In-Behind]

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/darkcoin-and-online-drug-dealers/

Over the last month, two of the dark web markets selling an anonymous, mail-order catalog of narcotics and other contraband have begun supporting darkcoin transactions. On a site called Nucleus, visitors can now use darkcoin to buy LSD, MDMA, and marijuana. On the competing market Diabolus, dealers accept it for cocaine, synthetic stimulants like ethylone and alpha-PVP, and even counterfeit Euros. Those two markets still represent only a tiny fraction of the growing dark web drug economy—most of which uses bitcoin exclusively.

We cannot wait too long before going full steam on marketing.

indeed. I'm waiting for webwallet/GUI to start actively advertising on the darknet though... it just doesn't make sense to do it now.

Agree, let's wait for a stable webwallet/GUI.
Be patient everyone, I feel that it's gonna get really big.
Darkcoin bring nothing new to anonymity, it is just Bitcoin with a paying coin-mixer and constant press spamming.
Do not fall for it.

The danger is not that the average Joe on the bitcointalk forum falls for it, but that the black market websites operators do.
It's not always the superior technology that succeeds. Network effect is a bitch when it's against you.

Monero can still easily win favor on the Darknet markets but time is limited(probably within the next 6 months to a slightly more than a year). Darkcoin's only been accepted at a market that was specifically made to accept DRK(probably made by a drk holder/supporter etc).

I'm hoping the GUI would propel Monero to become accepted at the majority of the darknet markets(the ones that are already very popular and used like that agora one; No feds, I have never gone on the darknet markets, this all comes from simple research ).

[papa_lazzarou]

indeed. I'm waiting for webwallet/GUI to start actively advertising on the darknet though... it just doesn't make sense to do it now.

The darknet guys value a GUI more than privacy? I would have thought that they'd jump in on a sniff of decentralized provable privacy.

[burnbabyburn71]

http://www.altcointoday.com/xmr-monero-price-trending-downwards/

Good time to buy in I guess

[mmortal03]

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/darkcoin-and-online-drug-dealers/

Over the last month, two of the dark web markets selling an anonymous, mail-order catalog of narcotics and other contraband have begun supporting darkcoin transactions. On a site called Nucleus, visitors can now use darkcoin to buy LSD, MDMA, and marijuana. On the competing market Diabolus, dealers accept it for cocaine, synthetic stimulants like ethylone and alpha-PVP, and even counterfeit Euros. Those two markets still represent only a tiny fraction of the growing dark web drug economy—most of which uses bitcoin exclusively.

We cannot wait too long before going full steam on marketing.

indeed. I'm waiting for webwallet/GUI to start actively advertising on the darknet though... it just doesn't make sense to do it now.

Agree, let's wait for a stable webwallet/GUI.
Be patient everyone, I feel that it's gonna get really big.
Darkcoin bring nothing new to anonymity, it is just Bitcoin with a paying coin-mixer and constant press spamming.
Do not fall for it.

In every article I see, they state that Darkcoin is the world's first truly anonymous digital currency, or the world's first truly instantaneous and untraceable digital currency, or something of that nature. They are blatantly lying in their press materials. Even the title of their thread "First Anonymous Coin" is a lie. Tell me I'm wrong on this...

[digicoin]

http://www.wired.com/2014/11/darkcoin-and-online-drug-dealers/

Over the last month, two of the dark web markets selling an anonymous, mail-order catalog of narcotics and other contraband have begun supporting darkcoin transactions. On a site called Nucleus, visitors can now use darkcoin to buy LSD, MDMA, and marijuana. On the competing market Diabolus, dealers accept it for cocaine, synthetic stimulants like ethylone and alpha-PVP, and even counterfeit Euros. Those two markets still represent only a tiny fraction of the growing dark web drug economy—most of which uses bitcoin exclusively.

We cannot wait too long before going full steam on marketing.

indeed. I'm waiting for webwallet/GUI to start actively advertising on the darknet though... it just doesn't make sense to do it now.

Agree, let's wait for a stable webwallet/GUI.
Be patient everyone, I feel that it's gonna get really big.
Darkcoin bring nothing new to anonymity, it is just Bitcoin with a paying coin-mixer and constant press spamming.
Do not fall for it.

The danger is not that the average Joe on the bitcointalk forum falls for it, but that the black market websites operators do.
It's not always the superior technology that succeeds. Network effect is a bitch when it's against you.

It is too soon to say about network effect. Last time I checked XMR market volume is 126 BTC/day, DRK about 200. One month ago, XMR market volume is much higher than DRK. Let say about liquidity before network effect.

[digicoin]

i agree, we need marketing soon. but slides and everything needed can already be produced now 
i too feel this will be really huge. the tech is superior, dev team is honest, community is grown up and coin is fair.

I think that we have to do 3 things first

+ GUI: better usability shows that XMR tech is mature and easy for mass market (== user adoption == liquidity)
+ Database: amount of memory required for XMR wallet is not trivial any more
+ Multi-signature: some deep web merchants may need it to protect their buyers

[Oscilson]

i agree, we need marketing soon. but slides and everything needed can already be produced now 
i too feel this will be really huge. the tech is superior, dev team is honest, community is grown up and coin is fair.

I think that we have to do 3 things first

+ GUI: better usability shows that XMR tech is mature and easy for mass market (== user adoption == liquidity)
+ Database: amount of memory required for XMR wallet is not trivial any more
+ Multi-signature: some deep web merchants may need it to protect their buyers

The first two is being addressed.

[SmoothCurves]

i agree, we need marketing soon. but slides and everything needed can already be produced now  
i too feel this will be really huge. the tech is superior, dev team is honest, community is grown up and coin is fair.

I think that we have to do 3 things first

+ GUI: better usability shows that XMR tech is mature and easy for mass market (== user adoption == liquidity)
+ Database: amount of memory required for XMR wallet is not trivial any more
+ Multi-signature: some deep web merchants may need it to protect their buyers

Amen to that.

The first point is actually an important one. Bad usability and a lack of GUI wallet for the mass market make Monero look like a immature technology. This is true -for now- but progress continues. There is still plenty of time for Monero to grow into it's own.