mpalenciac
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August 17, 2014, 08:25:29 PM |
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This image was posted on Litecoin reddit: Does this mean syscoin is just a bad clone ? At least the dev should've searched for all word "Litecoin" on the source code. so what? I see annoying crap like that in almost all coins out there. Because 'almost all coins out there' are crap. By your argument do you mean Syscoin isn't different from 'almost all coins out there' ? Well, that's a dumb mistake, could've been avoided by simply running grep -rl Litecoin . | xargs sed -i -e 's/LiteCoin/Syscoin/' on the top folder . But still, the coin looks good and it'll be a money maker if things go well with the fix.
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pinemool
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August 17, 2014, 08:25:52 PM |
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Because of all this madness here and still lack of block explorer... Enjoy working one: Donations: ST8aM6w4ZjtNZzXZbbEZ18Vt8fcdHQY4RT
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youngmike
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August 17, 2014, 08:28:30 PM |
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Small voice in a little crowd, but whatever:
Litecoin wolf-criers: a rudimentary comparison between the litecoin codebase and the syscoin codebase shows that the syscoin codebase has 40% more code in it. What's that mean? It means they added an absolute MOUNTAIN of code to Litecoin. Looking through the code itself, they modified it quite a lot as well. What's that mean? It means they worked their damn asses off.
And what happens when you make the earth shattering additions and create so much innovation within the code? Well, on the small scale under controlled circumstances it probably worked fine. They probably worked every last bug out they could possibly find over the last week. They are perfectionists.
But the mining world is far from perfect, and when you add colossal attention, mining force, private builds, etc. Basically the coin gets smacked with thousands of unpredictable scenarios and if it doesn't have every failsafe perfectly in place to mitigate every issue. With a codebase as big as this, that is an extraordinarily difficult thing to do - something major companies with millions or even billions of dollars can't do.
Remember, the codebase is basically just a colossal weave of logic. That weave of logic actually behaves differently depending on what system its running on, or what compiler (the program that converts the code into an application) compiles it.
What everyone needs to understand here is that the codebase is half the size of the entire King James Bible, and bigger than any book in the harry potter series. The codebase is almost as big as George R.R. Martin's Storm of Swords, and that took 2 years to write. And AT LEAST 40% of that was built on top of Litecoin. That's why they wanted to start with an old, stable, and proven codebase in the first place, so they wouldn't have to go fixing bugs in someone else's code on top of their own.
The innovations you see in other coins? Guess what? If they were released in a week, code wise, they were relatively small changes.
And everyone that is so trigger happy to call everyone else scammers? Baloney. Devs that stick their necks out for coins and struggle to deliver the features that everyone DEMANDS to know up front sometimes have no choice to abandon projects, because they get smacked in the face with the realization that what they're trying to do would take months, and in crypto, that's too damn long. Remember curecoin? Not half as innovative in terms of code itself and the devs spent over a year working on that. Seriously.
That's why these guys spent months working on this before bringing this to market, and the features are indeed there on the backend. I've checked.
You're dealing with brilliant people here, people that have put themselves out there and have everything to lose. Sure they've got some btc, but everyone knows who they are, and like it or not, they have real lives. I'm sorry, but 1500 btc isn't enough for half a dozen people to disappear on.
Do you want to know why more incredible, hard working, brilliant developers don't rush into crypto, and altcoins especially? Because the community is filled with rabid wolves ready to tear you apart when any little thing doesn't work right. News for you, nothing works right in programming. Developers are forced to work every day with broken tools and broken code. It's a fact of life, and we deal with it every day. If that wasn't the case, there wouldn't be hacked banks, hacked networks, bug fixes and bug reports. Windows wouldn't have hundreds of updates from the word go. There wouldn't be a 'bugzilla' which is funny, because that's how coders see bugs, like f'ing godzilla.
Also, the professional bit? Do you want deep in the trenches brilliant developers that are capable of actually making phenomenal progress and producing incredible work? Or do you want PR people spewing bullshit that never tell you anything except more bullshit. I'm sorry, but I've worked in the world. The person selling you roses and butterflies doesn't have a clue what's going on in the trenches, or even how any of it works in the first place. Meanwhile, the guys in the trenches are dealing with 20 years of technobullshit that I'd be worried if they hadn't grown accustomed to swearing.
So get it together. If you're going to invest in altcoins, then you're going to have to deal with people that are more accustomed to dealing with code and computers than they are dealing with people. And if you're not dealing with people that are rough around the edges, you're not dealing with real developers. You're dealing with bullshit artists.
One last thing: The developers didn't get your money until fucking yesterday. They've been working for nothing for months. MONTHS. So sorry if they couldn't afford all the bells and whistles you think got paid for. They have it now though, and by golly, you better fucking believe they're trying to fix everything with their new resources.
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MickGhee
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Fucker of "the system"
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August 17, 2014, 08:28:39 PM |
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It would make sense in this case, since they bought mintpal. If this turns out well it will have a positive effect on mintpals volume.
I am sure every actions could be justified, but what other coins would say if Moolah that supposed to provide a transparent, unbiased service support a particular coin that is in trouble with buy walls. Of course they could do that technically but it wouldn't be ethical. Their business is not to save coins, but provide service for coins. um those were the original 250 btc for devs to setup buy support. investors got shitty dev returned the buy to moolah o handle on their behalf i think this is what happened Right
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Last night, while you were sleeping. I fucked the system!
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sushipooo
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August 17, 2014, 08:33:35 PM |
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This image was posted on Litecoin reddit: Does this mean syscoin is just a bad clone ? At least the dev should've searched for all word "Litecoin" on the source code. so what? I see annoying crap like that in almost all coins out there. Because 'almost all coins out there' are crap. By your argument do you mean Syscoin isn't different from 'almost all coins out there' ? I'm saying this is a FUD argument. Has no impact on anything important.Oh really ? the simplest job which is searching and replacing 'Litecoin' with 'Syscoin' in the source can't be done properly. So what make you think 'more important' tasks can be coded carefully ? Yes really! sometimes it's the simple stuff that get's left out most often. Get a life bro and stop fudding.
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IMJim
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August 17, 2014, 08:34:09 PM |
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I don't think anyone can deny what a mess this was/is, but all those screaming SCAM SCAM SCAM.........you are all childish and ridiculous individuals!!
There are many things that need to be fixed here, no denying that.....but to call this a scam is just fucking stupid at this point. I can't fathom anyone putting a scam together that looked like this. Look at what this coin and it's devs are trying to accomplish with it.......and you expect there to be no problems?! I mean if they succeed at what is being attempted here with this coin, it will be HUGE...beyond huge! Of COURSE there are going to be problems when trying to launch something new that has the potential to change this landscape entirely!
They have no money from this in their possession and people still suggest they are running off to the Bahamas......grow the fuck up!
Who knows, maybe I am the ignorant one and this whole thing is a scam.....but I still think it is so fucking stupid to label it as such at this point. These guys OBVIOUSLY have a shit load of work to do to save this ship, let em work.....all you are doing is stressing yourself and them unnecessarily.
Personally I think they should lock this thread for now so they can focus on resolving the issues rather than listening to this non stop bullshit and complaining that isn't helping a single fucking person!
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Jesse Livermore
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August 17, 2014, 08:35:55 PM |
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Some of you may know me, most of you don't... I'm putting in a buy signal on SYS and am expecting a pop up from this consolidation soon. Innovative coin with a buggy launch, not the end of the world for SYS as 99% of posters here would have you believe. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=741867.msg8404435#msg8404435JL
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I own a DASH Masternode.... And you should too.
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solid12345
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August 17, 2014, 08:36:06 PM |
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I don't think anyone can deny what a mess this was/is, but all those screaming SCAM SCAM SCAM.........you are all childish and ridiculous individuals!!
If they had done what every other 19 year-old dev does on here, launched a boring generic coin with just a vague promise of features to come weeks or months down the road, people would go TO THE MOON! and start mining and buying it up based off the name or logo. I'll take a rocky 24-48 hr launch over the weekly pump and dumps any day.
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IMJim
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August 17, 2014, 08:41:05 PM |
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Still people mining in the pools, sad knowing they are wasting their resources!
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Yuzu
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August 17, 2014, 08:43:37 PM |
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Thank you! I lived through Hurricane Katrina and I didn't see people panic this much. Well, maybe that's a bad example...but seriously! Such a bunch of whiners!
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noodle_dam
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August 17, 2014, 08:44:03 PM |
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So what's the deal with this coin? I heard it was the new flavor of the month! The business + blockchain idea was very interesting to me.
basically, business is not on the blockchain.
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August 17, 2014, 08:49:07 PM |
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VRC had a buggy wallet at launch and people dumped. Devs fixed everything and price went from 1k up to the high of 56k. Once there is money to be made people will have a short memory and come back screaming buy because all the features work.
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Jesse Livermore
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August 17, 2014, 08:49:22 PM |
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Thank you! I lived through Hurricane Katrina and I didn't see people panic this much. Well, maybe that's a bad example...but seriously! Such a bunch of whiners! Typically you see the FUD club emerge because they feel it's a threat to their own competing Crypto, but in this case without many competing Cryptos and with this being only a short-term problem I believe they are truly trying to hold down price while loading the boat for themselves. JL
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I own a DASH Masternode.... And you should too.
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danosphere (OP)
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Syscoin- Changing the way people do business.
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August 17, 2014, 08:54:13 PM |
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We are still working on the fix. We will release further news soon this is coming out tonight.
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Bitcycle
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August 17, 2014, 08:55:00 PM |
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We are still working on the fix. We will release further news soon this is coming out tonight.
Will you test it this time?
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g13hze
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August 17, 2014, 08:55:14 PM |
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We are still working on the fix. We will release further news soon this is coming out tonight.
Thanks
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johnp
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August 17, 2014, 08:56:37 PM |
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Tonight PDC or UTC please
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noodle_dam
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August 17, 2014, 08:58:17 PM |
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We are still working on the fix. We will release further news soon this is coming out tonight.
Will you test it this time?
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armin22
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August 17, 2014, 09:00:12 PM |
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We are still working on the fix. We will release further news soon this is coming out tonight.
Will you test it this time?
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