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[lootz]

I guess thats what I get for giving you a little credit barabus lol w/e. Yes I am well aware of James and am a firm believer in his work. I INVESTED 50% of all my VRC in the SuperNET and very happy I did because it introduced me to a world of poeple that are simply amazing. Especially NXT people very libertarian. And as for my statement regarding Kev they were not towards you but DRKMAN who is not putting himself in the communities shoes as Kev is. Even though they both have vaild points

I continue to gather SuperNET everytime I get a few bucks, I live in NYC. These Jerk Offs are talking regulations. Putting their hands in my cookie jar once too many times. I believe decentralization is key, it needs to come faster. This is my way of fighting back, I realize I will never get rich off supernet but at least I can be a passenger on the train that its moving so quick it cannot be stopped. Cheers

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[lootz]

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In 7 days, there's going to be a huge rush in crypto to participate in an ICO that is going to make history: BRO. Huge amounts of BTC, in the thousand per day, probably even more are going to be sucked in there eliminating, de facto, the already extremely thin liquidity if the crypto-alts market. EVERY COIN will be affected, including, of course, VRC. In more or less measure, even the most established coins will see liquidity leaving and investors leaving to be able to participate in BRO.

For full disclosure, I believe BRO is an idea as simple as brilliant destined to be an instant success the likes of which have never been seen in digital currencies. In the short term and especially in the longer run, it can be extremely profitable for the demand is guaranteed. BUT everyone should be aware that the issuers of BRO will be left is a position of an extremely huge whale, and as such, will be able to manipulate the price in their benefit as they please. They will start collecting BRO from their games from day one, adding to their already huge stack of the coin. They can easy -and fully LEGALLY- stage big dumps in order to purchase BROs that they are going to need always at much lower prices. Rinse and repeat. As a matter of fact, it should be a strategy for them in order to maximize profits from the get go. Be aware that BRO are just chips, nothing else. The casino needs them all the time for they have to convert FIAT to them. But, in the  beginning and in the end, what they need, to support the profits of Brakout gaming, the COMPANY behind BRO, is FIAT, lots of it.

The reason I post this semi-off topic here is to prepare everyone for a possible temporary downside in VRC's price during the long month the IPO of BRO is going to last. Also, whether or no you want to participate in BRO, be aware that, besides VRC, every established and non-established coin's price will be affected, perhaps severely. Many already are. It will get MUCH worse, in my estimations. Therefore, beyond BRO, there will be many opportunities to buy artificially cheap into many cryptos, more than probably, if you are so inclined, into VRC too.

So be aware of the macro influences that are already affecting the markets BUT, by all means, please do your own diligence.

I appreciate the heads up barab, I also heard the same thing about BRO. Many people talking about it in crypto and in my outside circle of geeks. I work in a large IT department . Low prices are just good entrance points for new investors as far as I am concerned.

[barabbas]

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In 7 days, there's going to be a huge rush in crypto to participate in an ICO that is going to make history: BRO. Huge amounts of BTC, in the thousand per day, probably even more are going to be sucked in there eliminating, de facto, the already extremely thin liquidity if the crypto-alts market. EVERY COIN will be affected, including, of course, VRC. In more or less measure, even the most established coins will see liquidity leaving and investors leaving to be able to participate in BRO.

For full disclosure, I believe BRO is an idea as simple as brilliant destined to be an instant success the likes of which have never been seen in digital currencies. In the short term and especially in the longer run, it can be extremely profitable for the demand is guaranteed. BUT everyone should be aware that the issuers of BRO will be left is a position of an extremely huge whale, and as such, will be able to manipulate the price in their benefit as they please. They will start collecting BRO from their games from day one, adding to their already huge stack of the coin. They can easy -and fully LEGALLY- stage big dumps in order to purchase BROs that they are going to need always at much lower prices. Rinse and repeat. As a matter of fact, it should be a strategy for them in order to maximize profits from the get go. Be aware that BRO are just chips, nothing else. The casino needs them all the time for they have to convert FIAT to them. But, in the  beginning and in the end, what they need, to support the profits of Brakout gaming, the COMPANY behind BRO, is FIAT, lots of it.

The reason I post this semi-off topic here is to prepare everyone for a possible temporary downside in VRC's price during the long month the IPO of BRO is going to last. Also, whether or no you want to participate in BRO, be aware that, besides VRC, every established and non-established coin's price will be affected, perhaps severely. Many already are. It will get MUCH worse, in my estimations. Therefore, beyond BRO, there will be many opportunities to buy artificially cheap into many cryptos, more than probably, if you are so inclined, into VRC too.

So be aware of the macro influences that are already affecting the markets BUT, by all means, please do your own diligence.

I appreciate the heads up barab, I also heard the same thing about BRO. Many people talking about it in crypto and in my outside circle of geeks. I work in a large IT department . Low prices are just good entrance points for new investors as far as I am concerned.

Price won't be low loon. And it won't be know until the end of the ICO...

The key to long term profits is in the Bergstake asset though. The mining is going to be massive also. MASSIVE.

[Coinler]

here is my comment. my observations. and my silence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824211.msg9208802#msg9208802

without moolah i see vrc rising once more.

[jd1959]

RELATIVELY OFF-TOPIC

In 7 days, there's going to be a huge rush in crypto to participate in an ICO that is going to make history: BRO. Huge amounts of BTC, in the thousand per day, probably even more are going to be sucked in there eliminating, de facto, the already extremely thin liquidity if the crypto-alts market. EVERY COIN will be affected, including, of course, VRC. In more or less measure, even the most established coins will see liquidity leaving and investors leaving to be able to participate in BRO.

For full disclosure, I believe BRO is an idea as simple as brilliant destined to be an instant success the likes of which have never been seen in digital currencies. In the short term and especially in the longer run, it can be extremely profitable for the demand is guaranteed. BUT everyone should be aware that the issuers of BRO will be left is a position of an extremely huge whale, and as such, will be able to manipulate the price in their benefit as they please. They will start collecting BRO from their games from day one, adding to their already huge stack of the coin. They can easy -and fully LEGALLY- stage big dumps in order to purchase BROs that they are going to need always at much lower prices. Rinse and repeat. As a matter of fact, it should be a strategy for them in order to maximize profits from the get go. Be aware that BRO are just chips, nothing else. The casino needs them all the time for they have to convert FIAT to them. But, in the  beginning and in the end, what they need, to support the profits of Brakout gaming, the COMPANY behind BRO, is FIAT, lots of it.

The reason I post this semi-off topic here is to prepare everyone for a possible temporary downside in VRC's price during the long month the IPO of BRO is going to last. Also, whether or no you want to participate in BRO, be aware that, besides VRC, every established and non-established coin's price will be affected, perhaps severely. Many already are. It will get MUCH worse, in my estimations. Therefore, beyond BRO, there will be many opportunities to buy artificially cheap into many cryptos, more than probably, if you are so inclined, into VRC too.

So be aware of the macro influences that are already affecting the markets BUT, by all means, please do your own diligence.

I appreciate the heads up barab, I also heard the same thing about BRO. Many people talking about it in crypto and in my outside circle of geeks. I work in a large IT department . Low prices are just good entrance points for new investors as far as I am concerned.

Price won't be low loon. And it won't be know until the end of the ICO...

The key to long term profits is in the Bergstake asset though. The mining is going to be massive also. MASSIVE.

I read all of there thread I don't know why anyone would want to join a poker site (other games to be released when ever) to play against pro's with a 5% house edge. Uncapped price / limited supply ICO plus huge premine

I don't think they will take a lot of "Old Cyrpto Money" . They might skin a few newbies, but you can't do much to prevent that.

Jon 

[bitmaster1x]

here is my comment. my observations. and my silence.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=824211.msg9208802#msg9208802

without moolah i see vrc rising once more.

Been taking out all of the large sellers all of last night & this morning. Won't take much for VRC to rise.

[altcoinUK]

Here is a link for our new comer to get a nice information on the superNET topic that is going on here. Just bump it :

https://soundcloud.com/legendface66/beyond-bitcoin-13-one-to-rule-them-all





As it goes for james , the mastermind behind superNET, i did a littlebit of research about him here on BTCtalk. My result is that i cant say that there will be a success for superNET or not, but i noticed that james has very good reputation on in crypto , on every 9th guy here on the forum that can confirm and argue that james is a legit and hardworking guy comes one who is suspicious or a enemy of IPOs (which James used to distribute TOKEN). But no one from from the negativ side could really say that there is something fishy with that guy and that correlates with the fact that all the Assets the releases sells like hot buns. It seems like there is a collective of people  , i call it the "Smartmoney"  ,who invested in all that superNET stuff because they more than the average crypto dude. After diging more into what superNET finally will be , i for myself regret now that i didnt get myself those TOKEN .

To sum it up:

James is legit if it goes of Legitimacypossibility relied on statistical positiv reputation.

As it goes for superNET, it is something worth read about. And than make your own decisions.

It was never a question that James knows what he is doing terms of software development and he knows how to collect money.

The issues are
a) SuperNet is a vaporware (and most likely it will be nothing more than a great idea, good looking software development initiative and money collection instrument for James)
b) SuperNet has no effect whatsoever on the price of VRC
c) James lost his interest in VRC as he realised that the FIAT feature means very little, he knows that SuperNet will gain as much from the FIAT feature as much VRC gained from the FIAT wallet integration (which was zero gain) and the whole VRC association does not worth his time
d) The VRC devs do even less work than they did in the summer - which is a quite amazing as they managed to deliver absolutely nothing during the summer
e) VRC is a hopeless, stagnating, zero progress coin, nothing more than a fork, one from the 500 BTC/LTC clones, which is quite disappointing as we expected a lot more from the PhD students and MS developer

Apart from a-e everything is cool.
 

 I do appreciate your right to express your opinion, however if you believe what you posted why are even here?  We're all big boys and girls now and can think for ourselves, maybe crypto is not the place for you

it's extremely volatile by nature and many days worth of gain can disappear overnight. If you don't like the ride you should just get off.

Jon 

Firstly, the usual cheerleader reaction - like yours - to any not hurrah comment and your personal remarks are not surprising - when you hear the facts about VRC as you can't handle the truth you answer with personal remarks why we here, why we not elsewhere, etc.

Secondly you wrong even about the state and current affairs of VRC. Vericoin is not volatile and we are obviously not on a ride. This coin has been in around the 10k range for months, it is not volatile at all and you can have a better ride on a dead horse  than on this stagnating coin.


 

[yoshiwatusi]

what's up with the wallet..the lower half (overview) is not displaying..

[lootz]

Here is a link for our new comer to get a nice information on the superNET topic that is going on here. Just bump it :

https://soundcloud.com/legendface66/beyond-bitcoin-13-one-to-rule-them-all





As it goes for james , the mastermind behind superNET, i did a littlebit of research about him here on BTCtalk. My result is that i cant say that there will be a success for superNET or not, but i noticed that james has very good reputation on in crypto , on every 9th guy here on the forum that can confirm and argue that james is a legit and hardworking guy comes one who is suspicious or a enemy of IPOs (which James used to distribute TOKEN). But no one from from the negativ side could really say that there is something fishy with that guy and that correlates with the fact that all the Assets the releases sells like hot buns. It seems like there is a collective of people  , i call it the "Smartmoney"  ,who invested in all that superNET stuff because they more than the average crypto dude. After diging more into what superNET finally will be , i for myself regret now that i didnt get myself those TOKEN .

To sum it up:

James is legit if it goes of Legitimacypossibility relied on statistical positiv reputation.

As it goes for superNET, it is something worth read about. And than make your own decisions.

It was never a question that James knows what he is doing terms of software development and he knows how to collect money.

The issues are
a) SuperNet is a vaporware (and most likely it will be nothing more than a great idea, good looking software development initiative and money collection instrument for James)
b) SuperNet has no effect whatsoever on the price of VRC
c) James lost his interest in VRC as he realised that the FIAT feature means very little, he knows that SuperNet will gain as much from the FIAT feature as much VRC gained from the FIAT wallet integration (which was zero gain) and the whole VRC association does not worth his time
d) The VRC devs do even less work than they did in the summer - which is a quite amazing as they managed to deliver absolutely nothing during the summer
e) VRC is a hopeless, stagnating, zero progress coin, nothing more than a fork, one from the 500 BTC/LTC clones, which is quite disappointing as we expected a lot more from the PhD students and MS developer

Apart from a-e everything is cool.
 

 I do appreciate your right to express your opinion, however if you believe what you posted why are even here?  We're all big boys and girls now and can think for ourselves, maybe crypto is not the place for you

it's extremely volatile by nature and many days worth of gain can disappear overnight. If you don't like the ride you should just get off.

Jon 

Firstly, the usual cheerleader reaction - like yours - to any not hurrah comment and your personal remarks are not surprising - when you hear the facts about VRC as you can't handle the truth you answer with personal remarks why we here, why we not elsewhere, etc.

Secondly you wrong even about the state and current affairs of VRC. Vericoin is not volatile and we are obviously not on a ride. This coin has been in around the 10k range for months, it is not volatile at all and you can have a better ride on a dead horse  than on this stagnating coin.


 

What makes any of what you say a fact altcoinUK, please explain. Because if you cannot then they are not fact and just an opinion and you know what people say about opinions rite ?  ........They are just like assholes everyone has one

[altcoinUK]

Here is a link for our new comer to get a nice information on the superNET topic that is going on here. Just bump it :

https://soundcloud.com/legendface66/beyond-bitcoin-13-one-to-rule-them-all





As it goes for james , the mastermind behind superNET, i did a littlebit of research about him here on BTCtalk. My result is that i cant say that there will be a success for superNET or not, but i noticed that james has very good reputation on in crypto , on every 9th guy here on the forum that can confirm and argue that james is a legit and hardworking guy comes one who is suspicious or a enemy of IPOs (which James used to distribute TOKEN). But no one from from the negativ side could really say that there is something fishy with that guy and that correlates with the fact that all the Assets the releases sells like hot buns. It seems like there is a collective of people  , i call it the "Smartmoney"  ,who invested in all that superNET stuff because they more than the average crypto dude. After diging more into what superNET finally will be , i for myself regret now that i didnt get myself those TOKEN .

To sum it up:

James is legit if it goes of Legitimacypossibility relied on statistical positiv reputation.

As it goes for superNET, it is something worth read about. And than make your own decisions.

It was never a question that James knows what he is doing terms of software development and he knows how to collect money.

The issues are
a) SuperNet is a vaporware (and most likely it will be nothing more than a great idea, good looking software development initiative and money collection instrument for James)
b) SuperNet has no effect whatsoever on the price of VRC
c) James lost his interest in VRC as he realised that the FIAT feature means very little, he knows that SuperNet will gain as much from the FIAT feature as much VRC gained from the FIAT wallet integration (which was zero gain) and the whole VRC association does not worth his time
d) The VRC devs do even less work than they did in the summer - which is a quite amazing as they managed to deliver absolutely nothing during the summer
e) VRC is a hopeless, stagnating, zero progress coin, nothing more than a fork, one from the 500 BTC/LTC clones, which is quite disappointing as we expected a lot more from the PhD students and MS developer

Apart from a-e everything is cool.
 

 I do appreciate your right to express your opinion, however if you believe what you posted why are even here?  We're all big boys and girls now and can think for ourselves, maybe crypto is not the place for you

it's extremely volatile by nature and many days worth of gain can disappear overnight. If you don't like the ride you should just get off.

Jon 

Firstly, the usual cheerleader reaction - like yours - to any not hurrah comment and your personal remarks are not surprising - when you hear the facts about VRC as you can't handle the truth you answer with personal remarks why we here, why we not elsewhere, etc.

Secondly you wrong even about the state and current affairs of VRC. Vericoin is not volatile and we are obviously not on a ride. This coin has been in around the 10k range for months, it is not volatile at all and you can have a better ride on a dead horse  than on this stagnating coin.


 

What makes any of what you say a fact altcoinUK, please explain. Because if you cannot then they are not fact and just an opinion and you know what people say about opinions rite ?  ........They are just like assholes everyone has one

You are quite right about opinions : -)) but in this case I indeed stated the facts. You can't deny that the two PhD students and one MS developer did not deliver a thing during the summer, nothing in the last 1-2 months and the coin is stagnating. I am not even criticizing the devs here and fully understand that the devs due to lack of time, expertise, dedication or for whatever reasons failed. We already accepted that the VRC devs are unable to progress with this project ... and therefore there are no expectations whatsoever from investors ... and I was just thinking out loud here about my worst investment of this year.

[drkman]

I guess thats what I get for giving you a little credit barabus lol w/e. Yes I am well aware of James and am a firm believer in his work. I INVESTED 50% of all my VRC in the SuperNET and very happy I did because it introduced me to a world of poeple that are simply amazing. Especially NXT people very libertarian. And as for my statement regarding Kev they were not towards you but DRKMAN who is not putting himself in the communities shoes as Kev is. Even though they both have vaild points

I continue to gather SuperNET everytime I get a few bucks, I live in NYC. These Jerk Offs are talking regulations. Putting their hands in my cookie jar once too many times. I believe decentralization is key, it needs to come faster. This is my way of fighting back, I realize I will never get rich off supernet but at least I can be a passenger on the train that its moving so quick it cannot be stopped. Cheers

Lootz, Are you kidding me???!!  James clearly stated that he was giving the coins back to the community to choose how to use the coins based on "WEIGHTED VOTES"  DO you even know what that means?  IT MEANS THAT IF YOU DID NOT CONTRIBUTE THEN YOU VOTE ALL YOUR SHARES WHICH IS ZERO!

Do I need to repeat that yet again to the seemingly dense people on this forum like Lootz or Kev!?  I hope not.  So for you to suggest that giving all our donated VRC to the SuperNET in exchange for UNITY is NOT thinking for the community, then you have it exactly backwards.  The more VRC we can get to the SuperNET, the better it is for us.  Kevondo is trying to stop that just as he was against James and getting more dev help in the first place.

I would like to remind you Lootz that James would not be involved with us 1 iota if it were not for my idea to seek James out, form a relationship with him, and then tirelessly work to facilitate a long term partnership with him and our Devs.  So you are welcome, my friend, for your new found discovery and love of NXT and SuperNET, and for the already 100% gains in VRC and the coming future value that James and the SuperNET will provide us.  

Hello, I am visiting here and it makes me a bit sad what has happened to VRC and the community.
I was approached by drkman about a month ago to help VRC. We came up with a plan that I guess is known here as dev4

Since the basic structure is different than the current SuperNET, this creates some issues, but I did agree to it upon some conditions being met, so if these conditions are met, I will honor the agreement that I made.

But you may need to go back and read some posts and educate yourself a little better so you don't make factually incorrect statements and you are accusing Patrick and James of not thinking of the community because it is they who organized the UNITY vote and buy, not I.

[onsightit]

what's up with the wallet..the lower half (overview) is not displaying..

LOL, I think you clicked the "simple wallet" icon.  Click <-> in the lower right corner to get it back.

[yoshiwatusi]

what's up with the wallet..the lower half (overview) is not displaying..

LOL, I think you clicked the "simple wallet" icon.  Click <-> in the lower right corner to get it back.

it is ok now.. no, it wasn't the lite wallet. i just had to restart the wallet and the lower half info is displaying now.. thanks

[Isokoira]

MintPal is currently down for a number of necessary changes and fixes. A separate method of withdrawing funds will be made available on October 16th, 2014.

[lootz]

I guess thats what I get for giving you a little credit barabus lol w/e. Yes I am well aware of James and am a firm believer in his work. I INVESTED 50% of all my VRC in the SuperNET and very happy I did because it introduced me to a world of poeple that are simply amazing. Especially NXT people very libertarian. And as for my statement regarding Kev they were not towards you but DRKMAN who is not putting himself in the communities shoes as Kev is. Even though they both have vaild points

I continue to gather SuperNET everytime I get a few bucks, I live in NYC. These Jerk Offs are talking regulations. Putting their hands in my cookie jar once too many times. I believe decentralization is key, it needs to come faster. This is my way of fighting back, I realize I will never get rich off supernet but at least I can be a passenger on the train that its moving so quick it cannot be stopped. Cheers

Lootz, Are you kidding me???!!  James clearly stated that he was giving the coins back to the community to choose how to use the coins based on "WEIGHTED VOTES"  DO you even know what that means?  IT MEANS THAT IF YOU DID NOT CONTRIBUTE THEN YOU VOTE ALL YOUR SHARES WHICH IS ZERO!

Do I need to repeat that yet again to the seemingly dense people on this forum like Lootz or Kev!?  I hope not.  So for you to suggest that giving all our donated VRC to the SuperNET in exchange for UNITY is NOT thinking for the community, then you have it exactly backwards.  The more VRC we can get to the SuperNET, the better it is for us.  Kevondo is trying to stop that just as he was against James and getting more dev help in the first place.

I would like to remind you Lootz that James would not be involved with us 1 iota if it were not for my idea to seek James out, form a relationship with him, and then tirelessly work to facilitate a long term partnership with him and our Devs.  So you are welcome, my friend, for your new found discovery and love of NXT and SuperNET, and for the already 100% gains in VRC and the coming future value that James and the SuperNET will provide us. 

Hello, I am visiting here and it makes me a bit sad what has happened to VRC and the community.
I was approached by drkman about a month ago to help VRC. We came up with a plan that I guess is known here as dev4

Since the basic structure is different than the current SuperNET, this creates some issues, but I did agree to it upon some conditions being met, so if these conditions are met, I will honor the agreement that I made.

But you may need to go back and read some posts and educate yourself a little better so you don't make factually incorrect statements and you are accusing Patrick and James of not thinking of the community because it is they who organized the UNITY vote and buy, not I.

wow you still talking ? Clarity was an issue, ask anyone. Noone understood what the fuck was going on.  I am not accusing anyone of anything. MOST people have no idea what a weighted vote is including myself so you are correct I would need to look that up. Next time you run your mouth put yourself in the other persons shoes instead of talking like a jerk off. Dense is thinking that people had a firm grasp as to what the deal was and repeating it over and over when clearly many people missed out because it was not clear at all. My investor buddies told me that they did not do it because they had no idea what it was about. LOL He said Dense, look in the mirror hot head

PS. As far as you thinking I owe you something because you introduced X to Y, you can go fuck yourself  I don't owe anyone shit because I work hard every night on what I believe in. Not just a brief moment in time....Cough. If I do something I dont expect anyone to think they owe me anything unlike you apparently after hearing you repeat your greatest fucking moment in time. CONGRATULATIONS.....NOW WHAT ?

[trdiablo]

roadmap looking good for this coin. I like the stability of the price also, you know it will not be dumped to 2200 like XST as it is a true value at the moment and can only go up.
It usually floats between 9K and 11K so buying now is smart I think.

[drkman]

...MOST people have no idea what a weighted vote is including myself...

Well that spells it all right there.  Next time look it up before typing and before accusing our Dev of not having the community in mind when he proposed it and me or anyone else who voted their weight to buy into the SuperNET.

[Xosihc]

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In 7 days, there's going to be a huge rush in crypto to participate in an ICO that is going to make history: BRO [...]
So be aware of the macro influences that are already affecting the markets BUT, by all means, please do your own diligence.

You give a man a BRO, he'll chill for a day. Teach a man to chill, he'll have BROs for life.

[jd1959]

Hi altcoinUK
I'm not cheer-leading anything. I don't recommend any investment in any coin to anyone. What offends me is people that go on about Dev's not doing this or that. If you can do better step right up and do it. If you can't

do it then, you have the choice of investing else where it's that simple . So it's ether put up or shut up. As for handling the truth the market is what the market is, ain't that the truth? I don't comment ever about the

price  It's not really that critical, what is critical is the long term use of crypto. There will be both winners and losers, that's life. Have a good one and I wish you luck when you step up and become a world leading crypto

Dev wading through Knee deep Troll shit and fud.

Jon 

[lootz]

...MOST people have no idea what a weighted vote is including myself...

Well that spells it all right there.  Next time look it up before typing and before accusing our Dev of not having the community in mind when he proposed it and me or anyone else who voted their weight to buy into the SuperNET.

Lets make it clear, I am accusing you of not understanding where other people are coming from, the statement above was an example but I should not of expected such a simple mind to understand that.  I never accused the Devs as a matter of fact they just may agree that most people did not understand what was going on with the deal. You starting talking your shit without humbly understanding where Kevondo was coming from, you clearly do not do well with women that is just a guess. Maybe next time ask some questions as to why people feel the way they do so an effective conversation may materialize into a chat that is more productive then your accusations.  Maybe next time you will think twice about calling the community Dense then expect them to kiss your ass because you introduced 2 business men to each other. Stop sucking the devs nutz and acting like you are on their side after attacking the community with DENSE words. Now go get your shine box...