[ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"

[ReturnOfTheMAC]

You could withdraw them and stake them yourself however.

Is it a relatively simple procedure? or perhaps a step by step guide available? The whole petition thing is quite over my head I'm afraid but I would love to vote =)

I've not had the time to figure it out for myself either. Has anyone made a straight forward step by step guide somewhere for those who might need it?

If you want to have your voice heard in the CLAMour system I think there are currently two options:

1) download and sync the CLAM client, withdraw your CLAMs from poloniex to your local wallet, set your CLAMspeech to support the petition(s) you like

OR

2) make an account at Just-Dice.com, withdraw your CLAMs from poloniex to your Just-Dice deposit address, invest them in the JD bankroll and specify the petition(s) you support in the account tab.

Option 1 is better in terms of decentralising the coin. Over 73% of all the CLAMs that have ever moved at currently at Just-Dice, which clearly not good in terms of having a robust decentralised network. But syncing the blockchain is kind of a pain, taking many hours or even days. I provide a bootstrap.dat file updated which helps a lot in getting your client synced up.

The next release of the client will have direct support for CLAMour, but it isn't ready yet. The current release does let you specify your CLAMspeech. Set it to "clamour nnnnnnnn" where nnnnnnnn is the 8 digit code for the petition you support. You can specify multiple 8 digit codes; use a space to separate each pair of codes. I was maintaining a list of registered petitions at http://txti.es/clamour but haven't updated it for a while. PM me if you need something added to the list.

Option 2 will stake your coins for you and will support the petition(s) you ask it to, but there's a 10% fee on all staking profits.

If you need more details for any of this let me know what you need help with and I will attempt to make it clearer.

Thanks very much for this Dooglus! At this stage is it looking like digging will be removed? and if so, when will the changes take place?

[djhomeschool]

Thanks very much for this Dooglus! At this stage is it looking like digging will be removed? and if so, when will the changes take place?

Some point after the vote gets past 50% - which I sincerely hope does not happen, though it seems sadly inevitable.

[P-Funk]

Thanks very much for this Dooglus! At this stage is it looking like digging will be removed? and if so, when will the changes take place?

Some point after the vote gets past 50% - which I sincerely hope does not happen, though it seems sadly inevitable.

Even if the removing staking vote gains a majority of stake support, it's not going to happen.

[dooglus]

Even if the removing staking vote gains a majority of stake support, it's not going to happen.

It seems very unlikely that stakers would vote to remove staking. Or did you mean "removing digging"?

If so, why do you think that?

[dalistar]

i want node please
my wallet stop 39 weeks before

please give me node

thanks

[Faust Roland]

I have a question about clam,

If i check the blockchain explorer it says that clam have a total supply of 15 million , but at coinmarketcap it says 1,5 million

Whats the diffrence ?, cause its a huge diffrence between a $2 mill cap or $20 mil market cap what is right ?

Its because the initial distribution of clam, there is a lot of clams undug that dont cont in the supply on cmc.


Also such a shame the mouthfuckdog lost its shares.

so there in old wallets around and people can still dug them up ? meaning coins suply can increase fast?

You can vote for e2ef93da. Its change for limit digging. (From my point of view lesser evil than removing digging)

[VultureFund]

Hhmmm... I think someone here is scared guys...

Remember my words, fair Clams value is at under 0.0007 . Anything over that is just an overpriced scam.

Don't say me thanks, It's my job to protect sheeps from the wolfs.

PD: Contributions for the info are welcome. BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV

  

[ReturnOfTheMAC]

Hhmmm... I think someone here is scared guys...

Remember my words, fair Clams value is at under 0.0007 . Anything over that is just an overpriced scam.

Don't say me thanks, It's my job to protect sheeps from the wolfs.

PD: Contributions for the info are welcome. BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV

  

Everything you have said so far has been condescending bullshit used to solicit money from unsuspecting users here. You are a disgrace.

[VultureFund]

Hhmmm... I think someone here is scared guys...

Remember my words, fair Clams value is at under 0.0007 . Anything over that is just an overpriced scam.

Don't say me thanks, It's my job to protect sheeps from the wolfs.

PD: Contributions for the info are welcome. BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV

  

Everything you have said so far has been condescending bullshit used to solicit money from unsuspecting users here. You are a disgrace.

Yeah, bullshit. But bullshit with a true deep message: Your shitcoin value is completely manipulated, and you'll lose your BTC if you have long positions over 0.0007 price, the estimated fair price value.

Instead of being denial, you should look at real facts. Take a little look at Bitshares chart. What you see here is EXACTLY what you'll see in Clams charts, you guess why? BECAUSE WE CONTROL BOTH OF THEM!


Remember to donate for the scammed sheeps: BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV

Thanks  

[andulolika]

Hhmmm... I think someone here is scared guys...

Remember my words, fair Clams value is at under 0.0007 . Anything over that is just an overpriced scam.

Don't say me thanks, It's my job to protect sheeps from the wolfs.

PD: Contributions for the info are welcome. BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV

  

Everything you have said so far has been condescending bullshit used to solicit money from unsuspecting users here. You are a disgrace.

Yeah, bullshit. But bullshit with a true deep message: Your shitcoin value is completely manipulated, and you'll lose your BTC if you have long positions over 0.0007 price, the estimated fair price value.

Instead of being denial, you should look at real facts. Take a little look at Bitshares chart. What you see here is EXACTLY what you'll see in Clams charts, you guess why? BECAUSE WE CONTROL BOTH OF THEM!


Remember to donate for the scammed sheeps: BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV

Thanks  

Are you saying that even if almost 50% of the coin supply has been sold and bought all the way from .014 to .0007 and back a good bunch,  clams value is .0007? I dont believe so. Most coins would die with such supply injection.

[BayAreaCoins]

Confirmation that Vulturefund was the seller the other day for you scrubs:

16:28:36 (88888) <BayAreaCoins> AdolfSchnitzler, Are you VultureFund on bitcointalk?
16:28:41 (6) <AdolfSchnitzler> yes
16:28:43 (6) <AdolfSchnitzler> totaly
16:28:46 (88888) <BayAreaCoins> I thought so
16:28:45 (6) <AdolfSchnitzler> fucking plebs
16:28:51 (88888) <BayAreaCoins> fucking plebs

Sorry for calling you gay Adolf

[VultureFund]

Hhmmm... I think someone here is scared guys...

Remember my words, fair Clams value is at under 0.0007 . Anything over that is just an overpriced scam.

Don't say me thanks, It's my job to protect sheeps from the wolfs.

PD: Contributions for the info are welcome. BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV

  

Everything you have said so far has been condescending bullshit used to solicit money from unsuspecting users here. You are a disgrace.

Yeah, bullshit. But bullshit with a true deep message: Your shitcoin value is completely manipulated, and you'll lose your BTC if you have long positions over 0.0007 price, the estimated fair price value.

Instead of being denial, you should look at real facts. Take a little look at Bitshares chart. What you see here is EXACTLY what you'll see in Clams charts, you guess why? BECAUSE WE CONTROL BOTH OF THEM!


Remember to donate for the scammed sheeps: BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV

Thanks  

Are you saying that even if almost 50% of the coin supply has been sold and bought all the way from .014 to .0007 and back a good bunch,  clams value is .0007? I dont believe so. Most coins would die with such supply injection.

You should question about who bought that 50%. Was it general and small investors or were the vultures??

I feel you are a Clam holder. Be careful with your holdings man...

[Kefkius]

There will be a full explanation and user guide available on the website once the client is squared-away.

I wonder if we should make an interim release with just Kef's CLAMour/CLAMspeech GUI changes merged in.

xploited's "reindex" merge is big and largely untested. I don't know how long it will take before we are confident releasing it, or how we even get to that stage. Kef's changes are tiny in comparison - but maybe they depend on the changes I made which prompted the need for merging the reindex stuff in the first place.

Also, I guess you have other stuff on your mind right now. Good luck with that!

IIRC the only change I made that depends on yours is the GUI for the "getclamour" RPC method. So, just the get-petition-by-pid form.

Now that I think about it, there should probably be a GUI for the "getsupport" RPC method too...hmm.

[Trent Russell]

I just saw this comment in the code and was quite amused.

https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1097

Code:

        //Sanity Checks, If they happen: "We're All Going To Die"

By the way, I'm forking the clam code because I need a functioning p2p rumour network for something I'm trying out. I've changed the default ports and magic number, so no one running clams should notice anything. I'm open to the idea of directly integrating with the clam network in some way, but let's wait and see. I'll post something more depending on whether things are successful.

[Relaxedsense]

Im sorry, but how is CLAM even worth anything? How can it be the same pricw as coins such as Factom and ETH? I really dont understand..

[edmundduke]

Im sorry, but how is CLAM even worth anything? How can it be the same pricw as coins such as Factom and ETH? I really dont understand..

CLAM has some nice features such as the voting system (tho some part of it is still in development to make it user friendly). The main reason why it is so high is Just-Dice. Being the usable currency for the iconic gambling site is worth more than pretty much any innovation those named coins have.

[Relaxedsense]

Ok thank you for your response, I understand it has value, and I guess everything has a value. However, I still feel like it is overprices ALOT as FCT is backed by a multinational Microsoft and so is ethereum, both coins a worth the same amount currently, in my eyes thats crazy..

Thanks for your response though, I will be back around when the price is around 50k

[bobboooiie]

Ok thank you for your response, I understand it has value, and I guess everything has a value. However, I still feel like it is overprices ALOT as FCT is backed by a multinational Microsoft and so is ethereum, both coins a worth the same amount currently, in my eyes thats crazy..

Thanks for your response though, I will be back around when the price is around 50k

Yeah its also crazy someone thinks fatcom is backed by microsoft just because they experiment with it on one of their platforms. Just dice is one of the biggest longest running(honest) gambling platform in crypto world. JD in its history wagered probably over 100s of millions of $. What exactly can I do with factom?

[clf99]

Ok thank you for your response, I understand it has value, and I guess everything has a value. However, I still feel like it is overprices ALOT as FCT is backed by a multinational Microsoft and so is ethereum, both coins a worth the same amount currently, in my eyes thats crazy..

Thanks for your response though, I will be back around when the price is around 50k

Yeah its also crazy someone thinks fatcom is backed by microsoft just because they experiment with it on one of their platforms. Just dice is one of the biggest longest running(honest) gambling platform in crypto world. JD in its history wagered probably over 100s of millions of $. What exactly can I do with factom?

All these alts are basically like startup tech firms.  Factom has a vision that makes sense and will probably be realized eventually by someone, maybe them.  Ethereum too has some great ideas.  Clam isn't driven by a strong vision of the future from what I can see, and that's ok too.

Eventually startups often fail.  Many of these Alts may also.  Some may catch on and get huge.  It's hard to know.

I like clams because of the staking and the tradability.  It is loanable on Polo, one of the few.  When loan rates are low, I can stake it.

Factom is very young, and unproven.  Ditto for Ether.  I hope they succeed.  But they really don't compete with clams.  I'm not sure where clams
may ultimately fit in, but as long as there is a developer focused on it, it will continue.  I could see it becoming at least as big as LTC over time.
Why not?

What other coins stake as easily as Clams?

[andulolika]

Ok thank you for your response, I understand it has value, and I guess everything has a value. However, I still feel like it is overprices ALOT as FCT is backed by a multinational Microsoft and so is ethereum, both coins a worth the same amount currently, in my eyes thats crazy..

Thanks for your response though, I will be back around when the price is around 50k

You the same troll from before that claims clam is worth .0007.