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January 08, 2016, 08:04:46 PM |
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Hhmmm... I think someone here is scared guys... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Remember my words, fair Clams value is at under 0.0007 . Anything over that is just an overpriced scam. Don't say me thanks, It's my job to protect sheeps from the wolfs. PD: Contributions for the info are welcome. BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV Everything you have said so far has been condescending bullshit used to solicit money from unsuspecting users here. You are a disgrace.
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VultureFund
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January 08, 2016, 08:49:05 PM |
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Hhmmm... I think someone here is scared guys... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Remember my words, fair Clams value is at under 0.0007 . Anything over that is just an overpriced scam. Don't say me thanks, It's my job to protect sheeps from the wolfs. PD: Contributions for the info are welcome. BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV Everything you have said so far has been condescending bullshit used to solicit money from unsuspecting users here. You are a disgrace. Yeah, bullshit. But bullshit with a true deep message: Your shitcoin value is completely manipulated, and you'll lose your BTC if you have long positions over 0.0007 price, the estimated fair price value. Instead of being denial, you should look at real facts. Take a little look at Bitshares chart. What you see here is EXACTLY what you'll see in Clams charts, you guess why? BECAUSE WE CONTROL BOTH OF THEM! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Remember to donate for the scammed sheeps: BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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andulolika
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January 08, 2016, 09:58:11 PM |
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Hhmmm... I think someone here is scared guys... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Remember my words, fair Clams value is at under 0.0007 . Anything over that is just an overpriced scam. Don't say me thanks, It's my job to protect sheeps from the wolfs. PD: Contributions for the info are welcome. BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV Everything you have said so far has been condescending bullshit used to solicit money from unsuspecting users here. You are a disgrace. Yeah, bullshit. But bullshit with a true deep message: Your shitcoin value is completely manipulated, and you'll lose your BTC if you have long positions over 0.0007 price, the estimated fair price value. Instead of being denial, you should look at real facts. Take a little look at Bitshares chart. What you see here is EXACTLY what you'll see in Clams charts, you guess why? BECAUSE WE CONTROL BOTH OF THEM! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Remember to donate for the scammed sheeps: BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Are you saying that even if almost 50% of the coin supply has been sold and bought all the way from .014 to .0007 and back a good bunch, clams value is .0007? I dont believe so. Most coins would die with such supply injection.
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BayAreaCoins
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January 08, 2016, 10:34:21 PM |
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Confirmation that Vulturefund was the seller the other day for you scrubs: 16:28:36 (88888) <BayAreaCoins> AdolfSchnitzler, Are you VultureFund on bitcointalk? 16:28:41 (6) <AdolfSchnitzler> yes 16:28:43 (6) <AdolfSchnitzler> totaly 16:28:46 (88888) <BayAreaCoins> I thought so 16:28:45 (6) <AdolfSchnitzler> fucking plebs 16:28:51 (88888) <BayAreaCoins> fucking plebs Sorry for calling you gay Adolf ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif)
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VultureFund
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January 08, 2016, 11:17:14 PM |
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Hhmmm... I think someone here is scared guys... ![Roll Eyes](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/rolleyes.gif) Remember my words, fair Clams value is at under 0.0007 . Anything over that is just an overpriced scam. Don't say me thanks, It's my job to protect sheeps from the wolfs. PD: Contributions for the info are welcome. BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV Everything you have said so far has been condescending bullshit used to solicit money from unsuspecting users here. You are a disgrace. Yeah, bullshit. But bullshit with a true deep message: Your shitcoin value is completely manipulated, and you'll lose your BTC if you have long positions over 0.0007 price, the estimated fair price value. Instead of being denial, you should look at real facts. Take a little look at Bitshares chart. What you see here is EXACTLY what you'll see in Clams charts, you guess why? BECAUSE WE CONTROL BOTH OF THEM! ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif) Remember to donate for the scammed sheeps: BTC: 1P9gGtngioFH7BirNXvjNPVfMPyRtCUezV Thanks ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Are you saying that even if almost 50% of the coin supply has been sold and bought all the way from .014 to .0007 and back a good bunch, clams value is .0007? I dont believe so. Most coins would die with such supply injection. You should question about who bought that 50%. Was it general and small investors or were the vultures?? ![Cool](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cool.gif) I feel you are a Clam holder. Be careful with your holdings man... ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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January 09, 2016, 03:50:56 AM |
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There will be a full explanation and user guide available on the website once the client is squared-away.
I wonder if we should make an interim release with just Kef's CLAMour/CLAMspeech GUI changes merged in. xploited's "reindex" merge is big and largely untested. I don't know how long it will take before we are confident releasing it, or how we even get to that stage. Kef's changes are tiny in comparison - but maybe they depend on the changes I made which prompted the need for merging the reindex stuff in the first place. Also, I guess you have other stuff on your mind right now. Good luck with that! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) IIRC the only change I made that depends on yours is the GUI for the "getclamour" RPC method. So, just the get-petition-by-pid form. Now that I think about it, there should probably be a GUI for the "getsupport" RPC method too...hmm.
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Trent Russell
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January 09, 2016, 09:12:24 AM |
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I just saw this comment in the code and was quite amused. https://github.com/nochowderforyou/clams/blob/master/src/main.cpp#L1097 //Sanity Checks, If they happen: "We're All Going To Die"
By the way, I'm forking the clam code because I need a functioning p2p rumour network for something I'm trying out. I've changed the default ports and magic number, so no one running clams should notice anything. I'm open to the idea of directly integrating with the clam network in some way, but let's wait and see. I'll post something more depending on whether things are successful.
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January 09, 2016, 11:14:27 AM |
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Im sorry, but how is CLAM even worth anything? How can it be the same pricw as coins such as Factom and ETH? I really dont understand..
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January 09, 2016, 11:22:48 AM |
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Im sorry, but how is CLAM even worth anything? How can it be the same pricw as coins such as Factom and ETH? I really dont understand..
CLAM has some nice features such as the voting system (tho some part of it is still in development to make it user friendly). The main reason why it is so high is Just-Dice. Being the usable currency for the iconic gambling site is worth more than pretty much any innovation those named coins have.
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Relaxedsense
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January 09, 2016, 11:51:18 AM |
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Ok thank you for your response, I understand it has value, and I guess everything has a value. However, I still feel like it is overprices ALOT as FCT is backed by a multinational Microsoft and so is ethereum, both coins a worth the same amount currently, in my eyes thats crazy.. Thanks for your response though, I will be back around when the price is around 50k ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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January 09, 2016, 12:25:56 PM |
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Ok thank you for your response, I understand it has value, and I guess everything has a value. However, I still feel like it is overprices ALOT as FCT is backed by a multinational Microsoft and so is ethereum, both coins a worth the same amount currently, in my eyes thats crazy.. Thanks for your response though, I will be back around when the price is around 50k ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Yeah its also crazy someone thinks fatcom is backed by microsoft just because they experiment with it on one of their platforms. Just dice is one of the biggest longest running(honest) gambling platform in crypto world. JD in its history wagered probably over 100s of millions of $. What exactly can I do with factom?
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clf99
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January 09, 2016, 01:19:03 PM |
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Ok thank you for your response, I understand it has value, and I guess everything has a value. However, I still feel like it is overprices ALOT as FCT is backed by a multinational Microsoft and so is ethereum, both coins a worth the same amount currently, in my eyes thats crazy.. Thanks for your response though, I will be back around when the price is around 50k ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Yeah its also crazy someone thinks fatcom is backed by microsoft just because they experiment with it on one of their platforms. Just dice is one of the biggest longest running(honest) gambling platform in crypto world. JD in its history wagered probably over 100s of millions of $. What exactly can I do with factom? All these alts are basically like startup tech firms. Factom has a vision that makes sense and will probably be realized eventually by someone, maybe them. Ethereum too has some great ideas. Clam isn't driven by a strong vision of the future from what I can see, and that's ok too. Eventually startups often fail. Many of these Alts may also. Some may catch on and get huge. It's hard to know. I like clams because of the staking and the tradability. It is loanable on Polo, one of the few. When loan rates are low, I can stake it. Factom is very young, and unproven. Ditto for Ether. I hope they succeed. But they really don't compete with clams. I'm not sure where clams may ultimately fit in, but as long as there is a developer focused on it, it will continue. I could see it becoming at least as big as LTC over time. Why not? What other coins stake as easily as Clams?
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January 09, 2016, 02:07:46 PM |
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Ok thank you for your response, I understand it has value, and I guess everything has a value. However, I still feel like it is overprices ALOT as FCT is backed by a multinational Microsoft and so is ethereum, both coins a worth the same amount currently, in my eyes thats crazy.. Thanks for your response though, I will be back around when the price is around 50k ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) You the same troll from before that claims clam is worth .0007.
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clf99
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January 09, 2016, 04:19:18 PM |
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What other coins stake as easily as Clams?
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January 09, 2016, 04:40:53 PM |
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What other coins stake as easily as Clams?
Many do but that is not the point. Its more about the options you get with CLAM. You can solo stake if you want or invest in gambling sites (such as JD and BitDice) where you can be an investor and still stake. If staking is not your thing there is always movement in the exchange so you can trade (people buy and sell for gambling). You can even lend the the CLAM out on Polo if you want and earn more that way. Its a good mix ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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January 09, 2016, 04:43:54 PM |
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right, but... which ones stake as easily as clams?
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January 09, 2016, 06:13:13 PM |
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By the way, I'm forking the clam code because I need a functioning p2p rumour network for something I'm trying out. I've changed the default ports and magic number, so no one running clams should notice anything. I'm open to the idea of directly integrating with the clam network in some way, but let's wait and see. I'll post something more depending on whether things are successful.
My fork of the clam code is described here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=998559.msg13498133#msg13498133In short: I'm trying to use the modified clam network to pass around data for a different network (Qeditas). I do it by representing everything as a dummy clam tx (generally no inputs and no outputs) that has all the actual data in the clamspeech part. Yes, it's a hack. But it might work, and I don't have enough C++ experience to code it cleanly from scratch (like having a new class for each kind of data).
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January 09, 2016, 06:40:57 PM |
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right, but... which ones stake as easily as clams?
Your question does not really make any sense, any coin that has POS will stake as "easily" as Clams do.
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January 09, 2016, 06:52:42 PM |
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Im sorry, but how is CLAM even worth anything? How can it be the same pricw as coins such as Factom and ETH? I really dont understand..
It makes very little sense to compare the per-unit price of a coin without considering the number of coins in existence. People tend to multiply the per-unit price by the number in existence to get numbers they can compare. Take a look at http://coinmarketcap.com/ for instance. They rank coins like that. BTC is #1, ETH #4, FCT #12, and CLAM #26. New altcoins regularly appear and get pumped for a while then fade back into obscurity. Factom seems popular at the moment, but check back in a few months.
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