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Author Topic: [ANN][CLAM] CLAMs, Proof-Of-Chain, Proof-Of-Working-Stake, a.k.a. "Clamcoin"  (Read 1151118 times)
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July 21, 2016, 09:24:26 PM
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July 22, 2016, 02:28:19 PM
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What is the max supply cap of CLAMS?
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July 22, 2016, 04:15:53 PM
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What is the max supply cap of CLAMS?

There's one born every minute. What's the max supply cap of minutes?

Also, khashier.com seems to be down.

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July 27, 2016, 04:45:06 AM
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Checking the staking wallet logs I do see that it continues to search its own outputs even if it accepts a block from a peer while searching. Here's an example:

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starting stake
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 0
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 15000
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 30000
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 45000
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() found no stake
stake took 4s

starting stake
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 0
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 15000
stake 1.00 for xB2ecbVboyD513HJfvzvxw3tuNfRcUVUXv; not mine
SetBestChain: new best=5b2e7337902bc3e230541d1c47f135cd23efb2b984bc744aac54a5f14161691e  height=1070779  trust=255420176884548245025  blocktrust=523267355223939  date=07/10/16 13:24:16
ProcessBlock: ACCEPTED
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 30000
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 45000
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() found no stake
stake took 2s

starting stake
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 0
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 15000
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 30000
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() iteration 45000
CWallet::CreateCoinStake() found no stake
stake took 3s

In this case we didn't find a block, so the peer's block won. I'll see if I can find an example where JD found a block after hearing about one from a peer.

Edit: I can't find any. I suspect that although it continues looping through all the unspent outputs, accepting the peer's block has somehow made it such that no local stake will be accepted and so it's a waste of time to even continue searching in the current time slot.


My understanding is that if a new block is accepted then the client should try to find the next block based on this child, not based on the old child. Is CLAM not working like this?

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July 30, 2016, 10:44:27 AM
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dooglus,Where can I see rich list?  Thank you!!
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July 30, 2016, 11:19:34 AM
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dooglus,Where can I see rich list?  Thank you!!

Here... http://www.presstab.pw/phpexplorer/CLAM/richlist.php
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July 30, 2016, 01:19:56 PM
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Huh it changed, the richlist used to be different so i checked the hyperlink in the jd chat but its the same.

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July 31, 2016, 06:22:18 PM
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hey all,

does this mean pool operaters and exchanges will have heaps of clams from all the old addressses?

if so can we get our clams out from them or is it now their property?

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July 31, 2016, 09:02:31 PM
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hey all,

does this mean pool operaters and exchanges will have heaps of clams from all the old addressses?

if so can we get our clams out from them or is it now their property?

Cheers
You never owed the address, they were holding your money to you, but if you can convince them of giving you the private keys good luck, I tried contacting gox, lol.

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August 01, 2016, 03:37:22 AM
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What is the max supply cap of CLAMS?

There's one born every minute. What's the max supply cap of minutes?

Also, khashier.com seems to be down.

xploited?

Maybe the community should be a bit clearer about it. Clam has no supply cap right ? Like DOGE or ETH.

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August 01, 2016, 09:20:22 AM
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hey all,

does this mean pool operaters and exchanges will have heaps of clams from all the old addressses?

if so can we get our clams out from them or is it now their property?

Cheers
You never owed the address, they were holding your money to you, but if you can convince them of giving you the private keys good luck, I tried contacting gox, lol.


so some of these guys have thousands of addresses at 4.6 clams each...?

wow...good on them i guess haha

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August 01, 2016, 09:24:53 AM
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hey all,

does this mean pool operaters and exchanges will have heaps of clams from all the old addressses?

if so can we get our clams out from them or is it now their property?

Cheers

You should email them and nicely explain there is more value attached to your private key that they held and you'd like to withdraw.

Maybe even offer them 10%...

It's worth asking.

Alternatively:

All they have to do is sign a key with the address that has CLAMS in order to begin staking them as I understand!  

Their pool could earn more for miners and places like Dragon Tales could pretty much decentralize Clamcoin over night.

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August 01, 2016, 07:08:26 PM
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2 questions...

1. Who stakes claims and how many claims will 1,000 mint?

2. What utility does claims have?

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August 01, 2016, 07:50:26 PM
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2 questions...

1. Who stakes claims and how many claims will 1,000 mint?

2. What utility does claims have?

Thxs

1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

2. what do you mean by "utility" ?
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August 01, 2016, 07:58:44 PM
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2 questions...

1. Who stakes claims and how many claims will 1,000 mint?

2. What utility does claims have?

Thxs

1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

2. what do you mean by "utility" ?

Thanks for the staking results.

Utility meaning what use does the clam blockchain have?
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August 01, 2016, 08:14:40 PM
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1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

Just-Dice is staking 1.428 million CLAMs and stakes about 1310 per day.

That means that each 1090 CLAMs stakes 1 per day.

Almost all the CLAMs in existence are on Just-Dice.com, so I guess it's fair to say most of the utility of CLAM is that site.

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August 01, 2016, 08:48:30 PM
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1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

Just-Dice is staking 1.428 million CLAMs and stakes about 1310 per day.

That means that each 1090 CLAMs stakes 1 per day.

Almost all the CLAMs in existence are on Just-Dice.com, so I guess it's fair to say most of the utility of CLAM is that site.
I also stake in just -dice, but by my calculations(since 11th July),
 only each ~1170 clams stakes 1 per day (including bankroll profit).
~7% too high uncertainty ?

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August 02, 2016, 03:49:12 PM
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Long Live the Great Clam.

Sometimes people complain that they've been staking for a long time and not got any stakes yet.

Since I made the new Just-Dice staking wallet I've been watching to see how it performs, staking wise.

I found there's huge variance. I made around 13000 outputs of size 100 CLAMs, and set them to split into 25 CLAM outputs when they stake.

Some outputs have staked incredibly well. This one staked 5 times in 8 days, despite only being worth 26 to 30 CLAMs for most of that time:

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84d121      -> 100 CLAM   1044120 (2016-06-21 22:14:24)
cbdfb7  100 ->  26 CLAM   1045413 (2016-06-22 18:53:20)
a799ea   26 ->  27 CLAM   1050053 (2016-06-26 00:42:40)
c6709f   27 ->  28 CLAM   1050991 (2016-06-26 16:32:00)
00d648   28 ->  29 CLAM   1052089 (2016-06-27 11:02:40)
e58636   29 ->  30 CLAM   1054628 (2016-06-29 05:42:24)

Whereas none of the 146 inputs to 462d2e worth a total of 14600 CLAMs staked at all in 9 days. I sent them all back to the hot wallet to top it up after a few large withdrawals.
Hi dooglus, how did you made outputs of 100 CLAMS and also how did you split them once they stake? Is there any instructions to put in conf file or so?

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August 02, 2016, 05:09:04 PM
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Hi clams community,
We'd like to add clams to https://www.coinvault.io

Is there any interest from the clams community in using coinvault.io?
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August 02, 2016, 08:49:20 PM
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1. stake with 1300 Clams is about 1 clam a day

Just-Dice is staking 1.428 million CLAMs and stakes about 1310 per day.

That means that each 1090 CLAMs stakes 1 per day.

Almost all the CLAMs in existence are on Just-Dice.com, so I guess it's fair to say most of the utility of CLAM is that site.
I also stake in just -dice, but by my calculations(since 11th July),
 only each ~1170 clams stakes 1 per day (including bankroll profit).
~7% too high uncertainty ?

Oh, well Just-Dice takes a 10% fee from staking rewards. So each 1090 will get you 0.9 per day, and to get 1 per day you'll need 1090 / 0.9 ~= 1211

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