dooglus
Legendary

Activity: 2940
Merit: 1335
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 12:56:09 AM |
|
Against all odds I believe I have proof of a private key collision!
It all started when 25 CLAMs just up and left my wallet without my permission.
[...]
I would love another explanation. Right now I am out 25 CLAMs.
This is fascinating. Do you still have the BTC wallet that you imported? Was it created by Bitcoin Core? What is the date of the first transaction in the BTC wallet? I'm thinking the wallet could have been created and stolen before the CLAM airdrop. Bitcoin Core back then used to pre-generate 100 addresses when it created a wallet, so that the next 100 addresses it used would be in any backups you made. Could it be that the BTC address was lying dormant in your wallet before the CLAM airdrop? It's curious that the corresponding DOGE address was funded just 2 days before the airdrop happened. Was the attacker seeding the DOGE chain with a view to later carrying on exactly this kind of attack? Kind of a personal question, but has the BTC wallet ever held enough coins to make it worth stealing? Have you experienced any such thefts? Are you the same BurtW was in trouble with the alphabet boys a while back? Could they have messed with any of this stuff? How does the timing match up there? I'd love to get to the bottom of this, but am not very hopeful about it. It's a shame to hear of a loss. Fortunately for you, it is less than $200.
Anoter explanation? Your computer could be keylogged/infected. (Unlikely if only a sub $200 loss).
While possible, it seems like a weird thing for the attacker to do. Why only steal 25 CLAMs when the wallet contained much more? Why steal them using a very old DOGE private key? It just doesn't seem to add up.
|
| Just-Dice | ██ ██████████ ██████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████ ██████ | Play or Invest | ██ ██████████ ██████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████ ██████ | 1% House Edge |
|
|
|
|
noeeel
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 01:25:56 AM |
|
Hi all, I have not read the thread, buy can you give me a quick note, why the price decreased so drastically a few weeks ago? Was there an event that caused this drop?
|
|
|
|
|
Arya Aditama
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 01:31:11 AM |
|
if like this the thread i know some people make that big rank in this forum, because simple explain but make people understand about the project mission and join in this project, very interesting
|
|
|
|
|
BurtW
Legendary

Activity: 2646
Merit: 1152
All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 02:49:12 AM |
|
Against all odds I believe I have proof of a private key collision!
It all started when 25 CLAMs just up and left my wallet without my permission.
[...]
I would love another explanation. Right now I am out 25 CLAMs.
This is fascinating. Do you still have the BTC wallet that you imported? Was it created by Bitcoin Core? What is the date of the first transaction in the BTC wallet? I'm thinking the wallet could have been created and stolen before the CLAM airdrop. Bitcoin Core back then used to pre-generate 100 addresses when it created a wallet, so that the next 100 addresses it used would be in any backups you made. Could it be that the BTC address was lying dormant in your wallet before the CLAM airdrop? It's curious that the corresponding DOGE address was funded just 2 days before the airdrop happened. Was the attacker seeding the DOGE chain with a view to later carrying on exactly this kind of attack? Kind of a personal question, but has the BTC wallet ever held enough coins to make it worth stealing? Have you experienced any such thefts? Are you the same BurtW was in trouble with the alphabet boys a while back? Could they have messed with any of this stuff? How does the timing match up there? I'd love to get to the bottom of this, but am not very hopeful about it. It's a shame to hear of a loss. Fortunately for you, it is less than $200.
Anoter explanation? Your computer could be keylogged/infected. (Unlikely if only a sub $200 loss).
While possible, it seems like a weird thing for the attacker to do. Why only steal 25 CLAMs when the wallet contained much more? Why steal them using a very old DOGE private key? It just doesn't seem to add up. I am working on a theory that does not involve an address collision and is just me shooting myself in the foot. There is a new thread about this subject. If you could answer my question here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2344004.msg23896718#msg23896718then I will import your questions above and answer them there, tomorrow morning. Basically I would like to know if there is any way to differentiate between private keys generated by the wallet and private keys imported into the wallet. If the private key was generated by the wallet that is one thing and would indicate an actual address collision but if I can prove that I (or someone?) imported the address then, well, that would be interesting.
|
Our family was terrorized by Homeland Security. Read all about it here: http://www.jmwagner.com/ and http://www.burtw.com/ Any donations to help us recover from the $300,000 in legal fees and forced donations to the Federal Asset Forfeiture slush fund are greatly appreciated!
|
|
|
kang_kung
Member


Activity: 111
Merit: 10
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 03:01:16 AM |
|
Even though the price drop a bit but I'm still holding it.
|
|
|
|
|
dooglus
Legendary

Activity: 2940
Merit: 1335
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 06:35:10 AM |
|
if like this the thread i know some people make that big rank in this forum, because simple explain but make people understand about the project mission and join in this project, very interesting
Congratulations. This is the least intelligible post I have ever read on this forum. Please post a CLAM address within 24 hours to claim your prize.
|
| Just-Dice | ██ ██████████ ██████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████ ██████ | Play or Invest | ██ ██████████ ██████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████ ██████ | 1% House Edge |
|
|
|
Sikkan666
Member


Activity: 240
Merit: 11
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 06:40:02 AM |
|
Hi all, I am able to claim some clams when looking up an old wallet addy, however, that addy is on blockchain.info and All I can do (as far as I know) is to export priv keys. That is somehow going to make me been able to import into clam wallet (which I have no active connection too) and claim it? I need some guidance  anyone have a working peer-list I can add to the conf file so the wallet syncs? And how do I import my private keys? Is that even possible? Best regards
|
|
|
|
|
dooglus
Legendary

Activity: 2940
Merit: 1335
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 07:33:45 AM |
|
Hi all, I am able to claim some clams when looking up an old wallet addy, however, that addy is on blockchain.info and All I can do (as far as I know) is to export priv keys. That is somehow going to make me been able to import into clam wallet (which I have no active connection too) and claim it? I need some guidance  anyone have a working peer-list I can add to the conf file so the wallet syncs? And how do I import my private keys? Is that even possible? Best regards You can import private keys the same as in the Bitcoin Core wallet: use "importprivkey". Try running the CLAM client again now. I've restarted the seeder, so your client should find some peers. If it doesn't, here are some nodes: $ host clam.just-dice.com clam.just-dice.com has address 220.239.41.71 clam.just-dice.com has address 69.121.201.75 clam.just-dice.com has address 74.82.244.100
|
| Just-Dice | ██ ██████████ ██████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████ ██████ | Play or Invest | ██ ██████████ ██████████████████ ██████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████████████ ██████████████████████ ██████████████ ██████ | 1% House Edge |
|
|
|
|
FlungSpun
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 09:27:01 AM |
|
if like this the thread i know some people make that big rank in this forum, because simple explain but make people understand about the project mission and join in this project, very interesting
Congratulations. This is the least intelligible post I have ever read on this forum. Please post a CLAM address within 24 hours to claim your prize. There's a prize? Right,on! I'll try but he sets the bar pretty high. going to need beer at the minimum, a lot of beer
|
|
|
|
|
BurtW
Legendary

Activity: 2646
Merit: 1152
All paid signature campaigns should be banned.
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 12:39:52 PM |
|
|
Our family was terrorized by Homeland Security. Read all about it here: http://www.jmwagner.com/ and http://www.burtw.com/ Any donations to help us recover from the $300,000 in legal fees and forced donations to the Federal Asset Forfeiture slush fund are greatly appreciated!
|
|
|
gjhiggins
Legendary

Activity: 2268
Merit: 1290
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 01:41:45 PM |
|
Mystery solved. See:
Thank you for the update, most useful. Cheers Graham
|
|
|
|
|
1xhopeless
Newbie

Activity: 34
Merit: 0
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 06:02:47 PM |
|
Nah, this cant be it. I am pretty much sure homeland security are still messing with you. Did you write this comment under duress. ARE YOU OK? DO YOU NEED HELP?
|
|
|
|
|
Michail1
Legendary

Activity: 1502
Merit: 1165
|
 |
November 02, 2017, 09:51:12 PM |
|
Nah, this cant be it. I am pretty much sure homeland security are still messing with you. Did you write this comment under duress. ARE YOU OK? DO YOU NEED HELP? "crazy horse battery staple" FTW! Funny, I spent a little time looking at the address and the bip39 addresses from it. I am surprised that BurtW did it, but more surprised how many transactions are on the same address and the how many have used it in HD wallet transactions (even recently). Good job Burt for figuring it out and admitting to it. But, I got you beat for doing stupid things. Nice try though. 
|
|
|
|
antaresus
Member


Activity: 117
Merit: 11
|
 |
November 03, 2017, 01:11:06 PM |
|
Poloniex: "CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before"
|
|
|
|
|
BayAreaCoins
Legendary

Activity: 4634
Merit: 1399
AltQuick.com Owner
|
 |
November 03, 2017, 01:13:36 PM |
|
Poloniex: "CLAM is currently under maintenance or experiencing wallet/network issues. Deposits and withdrawals will remain disabled until a solution is found, which may require an update from the CLAM team. Any updates must be tested and audited before"
Stayed up all night waiting for like 100 + digs to credit... never did. https://freebitcoins.com/clamchecker/pending_items/Tossing in the towel. I hope I wake up to coinage on Poloniex.
|
https://AltQuick.com/exchange/ - A Bitcoin-based exchange for Altcoins, Signet, & Bitcoin Testnet (no fiat, stables, or KYC) - PGP D2F6EB9E127D75D6F994BA5F6862DDA3084922EE
|
|
|
BayAreaCoins
Legendary

Activity: 4634
Merit: 1399
AltQuick.com Owner
|
 |
November 03, 2017, 01:14:04 PM |
|
Speak of the devil I just got a CLAM deposits!
|
https://AltQuick.com/exchange/ - A Bitcoin-based exchange for Altcoins, Signet, & Bitcoin Testnet (no fiat, stables, or KYC) - PGP D2F6EB9E127D75D6F994BA5F6862DDA3084922EE
|
|
|
|
Experia
|
 |
November 03, 2017, 01:34:50 PM |
|
except poloniex.com and bittrex.com what other good exchange i can buy and sell CLAMS? polo and ttrex seems to be some wallet related problems right now and i need to sell some of my clams (small amount)
|
|
|
|
|
BayAreaCoins
Legendary

Activity: 4634
Merit: 1399
AltQuick.com Owner
|
 |
November 03, 2017, 01:38:25 PM |
|
except poloniex.com and bittrex.com what other good exchange i can buy and sell CLAMS? polo and ttrex seems to be some wallet related problems right now and i need to sell some of my clams (small amount)
Shapeshift.io, but their miner fee's kinda fuck up small amount trade. BitPop.co works too. They stake customer coins while you trade too.
|
https://AltQuick.com/exchange/ - A Bitcoin-based exchange for Altcoins, Signet, & Bitcoin Testnet (no fiat, stables, or KYC) - PGP D2F6EB9E127D75D6F994BA5F6862DDA3084922EE
|
|
|
|
Muttley
|
 |
November 03, 2017, 03:22:24 PM |
|
except poloniex.com and bittrex.com what other good exchange i can buy and sell CLAMS? polo and ttrex seems to be some wallet related problems right now and i need to sell some of my clams (small amount)
https://coinmarketcap.com/currencies/clams/#markets
|
|
|
|
antaresus
Member


Activity: 117
Merit: 11
|
 |
November 03, 2017, 04:09:55 PM |
|
Who is the owner of the twitter.com/ClamClient account? Why are there no new tweets?
|
|
|
|
|
|