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October 21, 2014, 10:16:40 AM
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Why was my post deleted here? So much for freedom of speech. Sad

take your spam elsewhere

Thanks.. Now I see why people stop believing in these projects. I'll go back to the IoC thread where I can post my "spam" freely, and without the XC thought police at my back. Sorry for even being here.

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October 21, 2014, 10:19:04 AM
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I would like to remind everybody of the official unofficial mascot 50% of the fund will be donated to the XC development or the PR address:
Donate address:
XP5K8cg6YbFqa5w8Q9bAriaJncptAP7g5w

And the other 50%? Nothing irks me more than people begging.
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October 21, 2014, 10:20:23 AM
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Mountain goat? Is that a god damn joke?
Yes, it started a little while ago.

I would like to remind everybody of the official unofficial mascot 50% of the fund will be donated to the XC development or the PR address:
Donate address:
XP5K8cg6YbFqa5w8Q9bAriaJncptAP7g5w

And the other 50%? Nothing irks me more than people begging.
How is this begging? I have made people laugh at times because of the goat, I also got permission from Arlyn to post this again.
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October 21, 2014, 10:21:23 AM
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REASONS TO BUY BLOCKNET SHARES
- The Blocknet’s initial value during the ITO equates to the following: 10 000 000 shares multiplied by an
initial share price of 0.00025 BTC = 2500 BTC.
- However the Blocknet’s real-world value should equate to the total combined use-value of every coin in
the Blocknet. Therefore, at a bare minimum, the Blocknet’s value would be equal to the sum of the market
cap of all participating coins.
Why?  Huh Why is the Blocknet equivalent to all those coins (valuewise).
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This is currently $4,288,591.00 or 11,285 BTC. Therefore an eventual gain in
price of 450% can be expected after the ITO.
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- But in addition to all its coins’ features, the Blocknet has the further features of (a) making all the coins’
services accessible to all users, and (b) bringing all coins’ users to every coin. Taking this massive increase
in utility into consideration results in the following calculation: multiply the combined market cap of all
participating coins by the number of coins. The resulting value is 22,500 BTC or a 900% profit on the
share price after a successful implementation (and adoption) of the technology.
Why?  Huh

I really can't follow the reasoning here.

Am I missing something?




I didn't follow the logic either. Why would the real world value equate to the sum of the market caps? The value of the London Stock Exchange isn't equal to the total value of the shares traded on it.  
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October 21, 2014, 10:21:57 AM
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i think what we see right now is people who see the blocknet like longshort dude at sdc getting out of xc. they don't get it or see no benefit and don'T want to support this course . on the other side there are new guys who like the vision that XC has for itself in and outside of the blocknet as an ecosystem coming in.

what the team needs to do now badly though is communcate in a understandable way that XC and only xc has the best and by my standards only legitimate privacy solution around and is not willing to give it up to any joint venture. i get it but alot don't. You really fail to play that card properly and in the arrival of blocknet this CAN'T wait till rev3. and dont show me the press releases on mesh network, those have been abstract and totally failing to make this clear.

after all this new developments the last couple of weeks there had to come some substitution of investors. i like the direction, some don't so they will be replaced now by investors that see a benefit in blocknet like myself. But guys don'T forget your privacy. you think its self explaining that people see xc as the number 1 anaon coin but its not. there has to be some boring grass routs PR work done for the Xmixer. its missing totally.

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October 21, 2014, 10:27:52 AM
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Mountain goat? Is that a god damn joke?
Yes, it started a little while ago.

I would like to remind everybody of the official unofficial mascot 50% of the fund will be donated to the XC development or the PR address:
Donate address:
XP5K8cg6YbFqa5w8Q9bAriaJncptAP7g5w

And the other 50%? Nothing irks me more than people begging.
How is this begging? I have made people laugh at times because of the goat, I also got permission from Arlyn to post this again.

You expect to be paid for making people 'laugh'? What happened to contributing to a thread without expecting something in return. I personally think this goat nonsense is overplayed and detracts from XC's professionalism.
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October 21, 2014, 10:34:59 AM
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- The Blocknet’s initial value during the ITO equates to the following: 10 000 000 shares multiplied by an
initial share price of 0.00025 BTC = 2500 BTC.

Is BTC the only accepted coin to buy BN shares? Could Xcurrency redeem BN shares after its release?
So the usage of Xcurrency is to setup a Xnode and nothing else, right?
XC community have been supporting the team from Day1 and unfortunately the team seems to initial a new business to move on.  XC holders' investment will go down the drain?
Let's explain these questions.
Sorry, I feel really bad about recent news.

Just to clear this up...

- Blocknet shares can be bought with all participating currencies.

- The usage of XCurrency is exactly what it was before. The Blocknet takes nothing away from XC. Thinking that the Blocknet will somehow dilute XC's value is like saying that Google's value will decrease by being on the internet.

- Did you even read the press release? To quote:

The Blocknet is, essentially, all the features of all participating coins rolled into one. Does this mean that by joining the Blocknet, a coin gives up its technology to the Blocknet?
-   No, coins retain every single one of their features and do not give up any of them.
-   Coins’ features are offered as services to other coins – for a fee – on the Blocknet.
-   Nodes that render these services are remunerated for their role.
-   The Blocknet also receives micropayments as fees for supporting the rendering of these services – the profits for which go to token-holders.
-   So instead of stealing coins’ features, the Blocknet does two things:
        o   The Blocknet increases a coin’s userbase for its services. No longer are coins only used by their (generally tiny) communities.
        o   By extending the reach of a coin’s service, the Blocknet serves as the most effective form of advertising possible for a coin: actual usage. Nothing will attract users more than trying a coin’s service and enjoying it.
-   Furthermore, the Blocknet removes multiple barriers to entry for would-be users of a coin, like
        a)   Making it trivially easy to discover a coin amidst the thousands in existence.
        b)   Not requiring a user to research a coin and understand it before adopting it.
        c)   Not requiring a user to download new software and learn how to use it.
        d)   Not having to do market analysis to calculate the risks of buying a coin before one can use it. For the first time the Blocknet makes it possible for coins’ services to be used without one first having to buy coins, and coins can be traded without having to use their services.

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October 21, 2014, 10:36:24 AM
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I havent seen much post about using XC instead of btc to buy into the blocknet, that'd get you 10% more shares/
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October 21, 2014, 10:39:54 AM
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REASONS TO BUY BLOCKNET SHARES
- The Blocknet’s initial value during the ITO equates to the following: 10 000 000 shares multiplied by an
initial share price of 0.00025 BTC = 2500 BTC.
- However the Blocknet’s real-world value should equate to the total combined use-value of every coin in
the Blocknet. Therefore, at a bare minimum, the Blocknet’s value would be equal to the sum of the market
cap of all participating coins.
Why?  Huh Why is the Blocknet equivalent to all those coins (valuewise).
Quote
This is currently $4,288,591.00 or 11,285 BTC. Therefore an eventual gain in
price of 450% can be expected after the ITO.
Quote
- But in addition to all its coins’ features, the Blocknet has the further features of (a) making all the coins’
services accessible to all users, and (b) bringing all coins’ users to every coin. Taking this massive increase
in utility into consideration results in the following calculation: multiply the combined market cap of all
participating coins by the number of coins. The resulting value is 22,500 BTC or a 900% profit on the
share price after a successful implementation (and adoption) of the technology.
Why?  Huh

I really can't follow the reasoning here.

Am I missing something?




I didn't follow the logic either. Why would the real world value equate to the sum of the market caps? The value of the London Stock Exchange isn't equal to the total value of the shares traded on it.  

Indeed the announcement page need to be re-done ASAP in that point. as well being sure that is compleately legal what it is written in that ANNOUNCEMENT as I saw some concerns about this in the blocknet thread.

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October 21, 2014, 10:40:55 AM
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REASONS TO BUY BLOCKNET SHARES
- The Blocknet’s initial value during the ITO equates to the following: 10 000 000 shares multiplied by an
initial share price of 0.00025 BTC = 2500 BTC.
- However the Blocknet’s real-world value should equate to the total combined use-value of every coin in
the Blocknet. Therefore, at a bare minimum, the Blocknet’s value would be equal to the sum of the market
cap of all participating coins.
Why?  Huh Why is the Blocknet equivalent to all those coins (valuewise).
Quote
This is currently $4,288,591.00 or 11,285 BTC. Therefore an eventual gain in
price of 450% can be expected after the ITO.
Quote
- But in addition to all its coins’ features, the Blocknet has the further features of (a) making all the coins’
services accessible to all users, and (b) bringing all coins’ users to every coin. Taking this massive increase
in utility into consideration results in the following calculation: multiply the combined market cap of all
participating coins by the number of coins. The resulting value is 22,500 BTC or a 900% profit on the
share price after a successful implementation (and adoption) of the technology.
Why?  Huh

I really can't follow the reasoning here.

Am I missing something?




I didn't follow the logic either. Why would the real world value equate to the sum of the market caps? The value of the London Stock Exchange isn't equal to the total value of the shares traded on it.  

Indeed the announcement page need to be re-done ASAP in that point. as well being sure that is compleately legal what it is written in that ANNOUNCEMENT as I saw some concerns about this in the blocknet thread.

It's been done already.

Go check it out.


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October 21, 2014, 10:47:36 AM
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- The Blocknet’s initial value during the ITO equates to the following: 10 000 000 shares multiplied by an
initial share price of 0.00025 BTC = 2500 BTC.

Is BTC the only accepted coin to buy BN shares? Could Xcurrency redeem BN shares after its release?
So the usage of Xcurrency is to setup a Xnode and nothing else, right?
XC community have been supporting the team from Day1 and unfortunately the team seems to initial a new business to move on.  XC holders' investment will go down the drain?
Let's explain these questions.
Sorry, I feel really bad about recent news.

Just to clear this up...

- Blocknet shares can be bought with all participating currencies.

- The usage of XCurrency is exactly what it was before. The Blocknet takes nothing away from XC. Thinking that the Blocknet will somehow dilute XC's value is like saying that Google's value will decrease by being on the internet.

- Did you even read the press release? To quote:

The Blocknet is, essentially, all the features of all participating coins rolled into one. Does this mean that by joining the Blocknet, a coin gives up its technology to the Blocknet?
-   No, coins retain every single one of their features and do not give up any of them.
-   Coins’ features are offered as services to other coins – for a fee – on the Blocknet.
-   Nodes that render these services are remunerated for their role.
-   The Blocknet also receives micropayments as fees for supporting the rendering of these services – the profits for which go to token-holders.
-   So instead of stealing coins’ features, the Blocknet does two things:
        o   The Blocknet increases a coin’s userbase for its services. No longer are coins only used by their (generally tiny) communities.
        o   By extending the reach of a coin’s service, the Blocknet serves as the most effective form of advertising possible for a coin: actual usage. Nothing will attract users more than trying a coin’s service and enjoying it.
-   Furthermore, the Blocknet removes multiple barriers to entry for would-be users of a coin, like
        a)   Making it trivially easy to discover a coin amidst the thousands in existence.
        b)   Not requiring a user to research a coin and understand it before adopting it.
        c)   Not requiring a user to download new software and learn how to use it.
        d)   Not having to do market analysis to calculate the risks of buying a coin before one can use it. For the first time the Blocknet makes it possible for coins’ services to be used without one first having to buy coins, and coins can be traded without having to use their services.


I must admit, I am trying hard to understand how this all works but I am stumped... Blocknet, ITO's, 10% off sales for coin/share purchases, Web 3.0, XC Inc Shares, Micropayments, XNodes, XChat, XBridge, XMixer .....this is the most confusing coin ever......Good luck marketing this to your every day user.

Edit: And I am concerned by the statements above - it gives the impression of a desperate attempt at a cash grab...."combined market caps of all the coins" come on...
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October 21, 2014, 10:49:30 AM
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i want to buy more XC, what do you think if its good idea to buy now at ~100k , or we will see something like yesterday (69k) Smiley

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What should be explained is: The most profitable way to enter the blocknet(What coin to buy to get blocknet shares).
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October 21, 2014, 10:51:04 AM
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i want to buy more XC, what do you think if its good idea to buy now at ~100k , or we will see something like yesterday (69k) Smiley
Just buy now, it is already cheap.
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October 21, 2014, 10:54:08 AM
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What should be explained is: The most profitable way to enter the blocknet(What coin to buy to get blocknet shares).

On the day of the ITO, any participating coin will get you the same discount: 10% off.


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October 21, 2014, 10:58:12 AM
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i want to buy more XC, what do you think if its good idea to buy now at ~100k , or we will see something like yesterday (69k) Smiley

if they would finally start spending some time selling XC as the privacy leader it is to the normal people 100k is a gift basically.

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October 21, 2014, 10:59:32 AM
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What should be explained is: The most profitable way to enter the blocknet(What coin to buy to get blocknet shares).

On the day of the ITO, any participating coin will get you the same discount: 10% off.



And XC is the base for the blocknet right?
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October 21, 2014, 11:01:40 AM
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Syn,

the link for Cryptsy leads to: https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/21 (and shows WDC)
this should be: https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/XC_BTC
 
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October 21, 2014, 11:01:44 AM
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i want to buy more XC, what do you think if its good idea to buy now at ~100k , or we will see something like yesterday (69k) Smiley

if they would finally start spending some time selling XC as the privacy leader it is to the normal people 100k is a gift basically.



Thanks for the suggestion.

This is a central part of the next phase of XC, as we move from pure tech development to delivering services that everyday people can use.


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October 21, 2014, 11:02:14 AM
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Syn,

the link for Cryptsy leads to: https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/21 (and shows WDC)
this should be: https://www.cryptsy.com/markets/view/XC_BTC
 

Aha. Thanks. They must've changed things on their end. Sneaky.

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