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[akula999]

It does work, and its not open source for several reasons, including the fact it is the most advanced mixer technology on the marketplace and would be cloned immediately...

Please dont call it the "most advanced mixer technology" when its closed source. If you want that title, open source it, have it scrutinized and present your case to the community.

Its claims like this that make investors run away.

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i think so too. and it really sucks to see the price falling like a stone.

maybe the blocknet idea wasn't the best idea at all? i think publishing this idea after REV3 was released would be much better as we lost 30% in just a few days.

even most of the coins that joined the blocknet train are nearly worthless

Coin  -  Marketcap - Price change last 7 days
APEX - $ 62,861       +225.72 %
SSD - $ 126,504       +15.98 %
SWIFT - $ 491,164    +13.32 %
XST   - $ 369,854      +1.69 %
NHZ  - $ 188,442      -13.81 %
UTIL   - $ 150,427     +31.07 %
FIBRE - $ 190,156     -11.86 %

XC     - $ 1,942,676   -28.71 %


Why were only coins added that are nearly worthless?
Why didn't you try to get at least one coin that has a market cap > 1M$?

And as it seems nearly all of them increased in price only XC lost dramatically.

I think a blocknet would make sense when coins that already have a high marketcap join forces to
build something big but this somehow feels like XC is used to bring more value to some useless coins.

First of all, you are a moron,

"Why were only coins added that are nearly worthless?" - Coins are not added, coins can apply to join.
"Why didn't you try to get at least one coin that has a market cap > 1M$?" - You angry cause your investment does not go up fast enough?
"And as it seems nearly all of them increased in price only XC lost dramatically." - what does that tells you?

"I think a blocknet would make sense when coins that already have a high marketcap join forces to
build something big but this somehow feels like XC is used to bring more value to some useless coins." - money money money and money again.

Full of morons...

Lets relax with the name calling.

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[IMJim]

This thread is usually a pleasant each day, not the last few.  So many fricken children in crypto.  Price drop and the world is ending.  Announcement of new tech coming and all the childish debate going back and forth.

This is the part about crypto I hate!  This community at least went through major efforts to try and keep things professional, whether you're for XC or not.....why not just be civil and respectful fricken human beings?!  WHATEVER is gonna happen, will it not be learning lesson for us all.......will it not be fascinating to watch and follow?  Seriously people, you fudders and hard core disrespectful debaters need to calm the fuck down and chill!!

You are making it very unpleasant around here for all:-(

[MKAxe11]

This discussion lately is really saddening me and I think the main problem is misconception.

First of all, we should distinguish 'FUD' better than just than just calling it that and asking people to leave. There’s a big difference between someone who is here for what we believe is a substantial progress in cryptosphere, but not being certain on recent developments, and someone criticizing from day one and not even interested in our vision.

FUD = 'fear, uncertainty and doubt' are feelings that I can fully understand right now, especially from an investor perspective (looking at recent price development).

It’s a completely different story, if one with no XC holdings what so ever is coming here to stir up emotions – most likely with an personal agenda (e.g. suppressing the price because he wants to benefit his own investment)

So let’s please obey to our community code #1 and #12,
and reassess #3: FUD != FUD -> concern of a supportive community member.

[infinitechaos]

I just got home and read the last five pages.

All I've got to say is, some of you need to broaden your perspective.

What XC and the BlockNet aim to accomplish will revolutionize the world as we know it and you guys are nit-picking every little detail and making issues out of non-issues?

I know it's easy to become short-sighted when you see the current value of your investment sinking relative to BTC due to dumping, but try and separate your emotional reaction to the market from what you know to be true about the technology at hand here.

I've been around here since June and the pace of development put forth here is found nowhere else in crypto. When you consider that this is a big picture project that is still very much in beta and that bugs will be found and addressed along the path to that big picture, we have very little to complain about here.

Crypto "problems"...jeez.

[sugarboy321]

Bah, soon as I saw that thread for paid fudders I almost threw up. Nothing but crypto mercenaries. Too bad we cannot password encrypt this thread to post.

[MemoryShock]

Just want to re-iterate that a few pages back it was established that there was an active campaign to hire Trolls to 'destroy reputations'.

All the fallacies are rearing their ugly heads it appears.

I bought today.  Those coins won't go into the market trolls coffers...(I'm assuming that they exist).

Edit - Post above me beat me to it.

[MKAxe11]

im now into DRK more than XC

then you should rather emphasize that on the DRK thread than here.
thanks!!

[jibble]

Sorry memoryshock but i gotta put this here to reiterate the reason for the addition of these selected coins to be part of the blocknet

I see a few posts that are harping on why certain coins were chosen to join Blocknet.  Some are citing small marketcap blah blah blah.

Atcsecure mentioned that the development of the technology was priority.  With this in mind, let us take a look at what each of the coins represented in the Blocknet Foundation have done…in no particular order.

SSD – First steganograpic anon transaction over mobile.  This means that you can embed a transfer of SSD into an image that you take from your mobile and not have it traced – the image doesn’t suggest that a transaction has occurred.  That is pretty freaking stout in my opinion.  Development ongoing.

XST – World’s First anonymous SMS transaction.  Again, a mobile transaction that is anonymous. Development ongoing (this is a theme with everyone here so I won't repeat it).

APEX – In wallet developments – everything from social networking to casinos.  Aggressive dev team with an eye towards enabling web merchant transactions within their wallet.

UTIL – Content filtering to protect exit nodes from malicious and illegal content.  A great business feature.

SWIFT – geoSwift, a way to GPS locate and connect sellers/buyers via mobile.  

LXC – Working on BlueTooth transactions…meaning mobile transactions without internet connection.  Sidechain research and implementation planned.

FIBRE – An Aggressive dev team that has already created their own OS and have integrated FibreLock (an android style password system that renders keyloggers obsolete) into a BTC Modded wallet in addition to their own.  

NHZ – Asset Exchange and further expansion of NXT code.

XC – Working on some cool stuff with a dev who has proven himself through a mountain of accusations.  Not sure I need to list the features and development here.

The best part of my summaries are this – it’s not comprehensive!!!  It’s a miniscule aspect of what each coin has to offer and not a complete picture of what each respective coins developers are capable of.  My point was to make an attempt to list a unique feature of each coin to demonstrate the very broad based level of expertise represented here.  There are many talented devs here with many ‘firsts’ represented.  All of them together can combine into a seamless user experience that can’t be claimed ANYWHERE.  All of these features together create a potential user experience that is unrivaled and will be for some time.

The marketcap of each coin, at this time, is irrelevant to me. That is not what defines their worth. The devs are pretty stout and it is the technology that is being developed that is the main issue and what will drive their relevance.

None of the posts that I see are even focusing on what the development teams are doing.  That needs to be corrected.

In fact, Blocknet has a group of talented people who will collaborate on making something that is something that Crypto has never seen before.  And I think that is something that isn't being done elsewhere.

They have been chosen objectively from an experienced crypto coin developer based purely on the technological advances to crypto they bring.

[reebokasss]

fuck.. i bought yesterday at 104k :/ now i see that 0,3 BTC can dump to 80k on bittrex.. every dayg we are going lower and lower.. what do you think, how low we will go? if blocknet will help us with price?

one more stupid question, why i need to buy blocknet tokens if their price will we stable (0,00025 BTC) and wont rise? lets say XC price now is 0,001 BTC , so i can buy 4 tokens for 1 XC. and if later XC will jump to 0,005 BTC , so for 4 tokens i will get only 0,2 XC ? or i just poorly understood something? explain me how blocknet tokens are better than xc in this situation

what will be with my XC after 29th of October if i will not buy blocknet tokens?

[adhitthana]

fuck.. i bought yesterday at 104k :/ now i see that 0,3 BTC can dump to 80k on bittrex.. every dayg we are going lower and lower.. what do you think, how low we will go? if blocknet will help us with price?

I think it is normal for altcoins to get dumped from time to time. It has been quite a while since we had any dumps in XC. I think XC is a good chance of recovering because it is generally regarded pretty highly in my experience. Also the team seems to be doing a great job.

I find the current developments a bit confusing, but I'm not a genius as far as understanding the details goes.


* General disclaimer: After trading financial markets for many years I have discovered that there is very little correlation between what I think should happen and what actually happens. 

[Bl4ckw00d]

fuck.. i bought yesterday at 104k :/ now i see that 0,3 BTC can dump to 80k on bittrex.. every dayg we are going lower and lower.. what do you think, how low we will go? if blocknet will help us with price?

 I don't want to advise you incorrectly but I have been looking at XC as a long term investment,  selling at these prices is idiotic. I speak this way as someone who mined and bought in really early with no incredible loss to be had.  In times of such price speculation I see this is an opportune time to get more.  People who try to trade XC as quick short term profit are normally disappointed.  In our market good news brings continuous price drops. The troll army is out in full force since the blocknet announcement. Steady hands are required. There will come a day when XC's progress in this space will be recognized monetarily in its price.  As long as the gears keep turning and results continue to be produced (how about that rEV3 thingy)this thing is a gravy train.  

If you aren't curious to watch how the possible decentralization of everything online plays out and are easily scared by pookie and his gypsy fud monsters then this isn't the game you should be playing, the exit is to the left.

[cryptico]

I will not comment on the last few pages. Yesterday was feeling frustrating also and left my pc before writing something stupid. better get off your keybord if you are butthurt and think twice before posting.

I will gladly redirect the discussion on development.

When can we expect to test the mobile wallet Dan? I gave my availability yesterday and sent you a PM. Thank you.

Please give an ETA for the UI and DELIVER.

[CrazyLeoW]

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[cryptico]

just to re-assure Investors the Dumping that is going on was announced yesterday by a freaky dude on the Forum..strange thing is happening now.. Hold tight your XCs as this is pure Market manipulation and attempt to destroy our project. Amazing prices to buy in for new comers though.. Even I did not bought that cheap and im here since 5 months.

[reebokasss]

78k and still dropping.. if we will drop that fast, we will reach 0 soon can someone answer my question about blocknet?

[wooder]

fuck.. i bought yesterday at 104k :/ now i see that 0,3 BTC can dump to 80k on bittrex.. every dayg we are going lower and lower.. what do you think, how low we will go? if blocknet will help us with price?

I think it is normal for altcoins to get dumped from time to time. It has been quite a while since we had any dumps in XC. I think XC is a good chance of recovering because it is generally regarded pretty highly in my experience. Also the team seems to be doing a great job.

I find the current developments a bit confusing, but I'm not a genius as far as understanding the details goes.


* General disclaimer: After trading financial markets for many years I have discovered that there is very little correlation between what I think should happen and what actually happens. 

the problem i see here is that normally a dump follows a pump but we had no pump, the price is going downward for over a month now ~ when REV 2.5 was released.

[cryptico]

fuck.. i bought yesterday at 104k :/ now i see that 0,3 BTC can dump to 80k on bittrex.. every dayg we are going lower and lower.. what do you think, how low we will go? if blocknet will help us with price?

I think it is normal for altcoins to get dumped from time to time. It has been quite a while since we had any dumps in XC. I think XC is a good chance of recovering because it is generally regarded pretty highly in my experience. Also the team seems to be doing a great job.

I find the current developments a bit confusing, but I'm not a genius as far as understanding the details goes.


* General disclaimer: After trading financial markets for many years I have discovered that there is very little correlation between what I think should happen and what actually happens. 

the problem i see here is that normally a dump follows a pump but we had no pump, the price is going downward for over a month now ~ when REV 2.5 was released.

Rev 2.5 was never released are you on crack Dude...read your recent posts and cannot understand where do you take them from..

[wooder]

fuck.. i bought yesterday at 104k :/ now i see that 0,3 BTC can dump to 80k on bittrex.. every dayg we are going lower and lower.. what do you think, how low we will go? if blocknet will help us with price?

I think it is normal for altcoins to get dumped from time to time. It has been quite a while since we had any dumps in XC. I think XC is a good chance of recovering because it is generally regarded pretty highly in my experience. Also the team seems to be doing a great job.

I find the current developments a bit confusing, but I'm not a genius as far as understanding the details goes.


* General disclaimer: After trading financial markets for many years I have discovered that there is very little correlation between what I think should happen and what actually happens. 

the problem i see here is that normally a dump follows a pump but we had no pump, the price is going downward for over a month now ~ when REV 2.5 was released.

Rev 2.5 was never released are you on crack Dude...read your recent posts and cannot understand where do you take them from..

i ment REV2 just a typo

[jibble]

fuck.. i bought yesterday at 104k :/ now i see that 0,3 BTC can dump to 80k on bittrex.. every dayg we are going lower and lower.. what do you think, how low we will go? if blocknet will help us with price?

I think it is normal for altcoins to get dumped from time to time. It has been quite a while since we had any dumps in XC. I think XC is a good chance of recovering because it is generally regarded pretty highly in my experience. Also the team seems to be doing a great job.

I find the current developments a bit confusing, but I'm not a genius as far as understanding the details goes.


* General disclaimer: After trading financial markets for many years I have discovered that there is very little correlation between what I think should happen and what actually happens. 

the problem i see here is that normally a dump follows a pump but we had no pump, the price is going downward for over a month now ~ when REV 2.5 was released.

seriously thou, check every single coin on coinmarkcap for the last month of trade, more than 75% have gone down, few coins can't be included cos they are only a couple of months old.

Yes there is a decline in price , but if you had your investment in any other coin you would be seeing the same thing, a slow reduction in price over the last 30 days.

There does seem to be dumping , there does seem to be an extra amount of FUD going on (and i suspect there is much more to come) , there was clear manipulation of the order books to make them look stupidly shit going on bittrex before.

it would be useless to say "look at it in the long term" because emotionally and impatience are telling you holding onto something at such a crappy low value that is just going to take even longer to see profit is pointless.

Most coins die off when the developer disappears /slowly stops working or is ignorant to everyone. Dan has been providing almost daily updates on bug fixes and has been working like a maniac. if you believe in the tech hold, forget about it and come back in a few months. keep it in cold storage and buy a few btc and day trade other currencies to pass the time.

But low volume and anyone with a huge stack wanting to exit is going to cause a decline in price which it looks like. (not saying this is a whale exiting so oh no they don't trust it anymore, it could be someone thinking (oh i want a new car) or any number of 1000 reasons)

[reebokasss]

75k.. im fucking stupid that i bought yesterday at 104k ~2btc worth of xc ((  i just remerber that synechist said on monday "stupid who are selling before huge news" , price was ~100k.. so they wasnt stupid, i dont believe that we will see price jump on 29th of OCtober..