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[Jimmy2011]

1) Is the mixing tx "instant"? How long will it take for the mixing tx according to block time, 1 block, 2 block, 3 block, or 10 blocks, 100 blocks? What I mean is the "mixing process", not the confirmation time.

2) If I want to pay a merchant and want to send the coins via xnode "mixing" service, can I show and verify my tx to the merchant? If my understanding is right, the tx input to the merchant is not my address.

3) As a middleman, if some illegal tx, for example, drug service, is transferred through my wallet, so I'm so risky to open the xnode.

I think I haven't understand xnode logic, so please correct me about the above questions.

Thank you.

I have no idea about #1 obviously so I'll just comment on the other two points from my perspective.

If you are dealing with a 'merchant' who is going to require confirmation of payment - or who you are concerned with defrauding you based on claims of non-payment - then you will most likely be wanting to avoid anonymous payments under any circumstances.  However, despite the fact that it would largely invalidate the 'anonymous' aspect - you could add signed message with a previously agreed upon 'identifier' to prove it was you to the recipient.

Again - the real-world cases where you don't want anyone to know who you sent money to, but you want to be able to prove the fact that you sent money to them... it's pretty much a catch-22.

As far as #3, unless you are also being a middle-man for the drugs themselves (mule) - you are doing nothing different than the routers and switches at all the ISPs along the route between nodes that the data is travelling - with no logged information identifying the parties on either end, and no way of being able to 'read' the purpose of the payment, I can see no legal precedence for prosecution.

Were all Bitcoin wallets responsible for Silkroad?  They were essentially providing proof of payment for those transactions after all... which is all you would really be doing as an xnode.  

Thanks for your explanations.

@atcsecure, what's you comment, especially question 1?

[Jimmy2011]

Excited for the release tonight, but I am also going to be protective of my coins.

I will be installing the new wallet that has Xnode enabled separately and start it with 1000 coins in it.  I will be doing this for a number of reasons, but number 1 is to try to identify the payments coming from transactions, as well as use these addresses in the block chain for true anonymity detection.  

BTW @BryceWeiner doesn't quite get the concept, so if anyone has a line to him, try to get him up to date on the real transactions.  The only thing "centralized" about this solution is that it remains within the XC network.

One more thing.  For those of you who don't know - this has implications far beyond cryptocurrency.  This has potential to be an enterprise solution for network security and IS the future.  Even if XC is not successful, I believe this is still laying down the groundwork for the "new internet" that so many have been looking for.  I.E. Blockchain 2.0

Someone mentioned 4-5 developers besides Dan working on this.  Yet some of these developers are not members of Bitcointalk.  I think this is for a reason, and that reason is because they are not Crypto specialists, but they are security and encryption specialists - look at Dan's history and he likely has those connections.  

Lastly, Please fix the following issue:


"Mined but not accepted" should be discarded from the wallet and not clutter up the transactions.  Either that or let them appear correctly in order and not sit in the first position which stays in the overview of the wallet.
This has been an issue on other wallets as well and I believe they were able to take care of it.

Could you please give more details on those developers and their projects?

[weedsmoke420]

I vote to move for a name change.

I have two options, both of which relate to key points within the XC development, and basic premise. Ticker will remain XC

Drum roll please....

XCent ... Anonymous Transfer Complete

This relates to the idea that XCent is relative to money, and immediately catches the eye. The motto shows what this coins about as far as the anonymous transfer protocol is concerned, and accomplishes one of the two main ideas of the coin immediately.  XCent would distinguish us from the term 'coin' and set us apart, as does our code.

MAESTRO QUEUE MUSIC

XClouds; Float Free

This name insinuates the idea of Mesh networking, and being 100% decentralized; + Blockchain 2.0. The motto represents the idea of the XClouds being fluid, and moving between the main net and the X net; or rather moving from USD, the earths currency, to XClouds, the currency of this Mesh network.  Clouds are free, out of grasp from earth and sea. This signifies the other key idea of the coin, appealing immediately to those who would associate the coin with Blockchain 2.0 protocol. XClouds sounds down right gnarly.

This completes the presentation.

Czech that Signature

Infinity Bump

Might be a good idea, anything unique to search google easier and especially for the android wallet in the forseable future

Yes! Thank you! Yeah I just want to have a name that possess complete lack of hindrance towards this great coin.

XC for XCloud is AWESOME.  I think the name gives real credibility as well.  Imagine Businesses securing data with XCloud technology - really catchy as well.

Thanks man! Yeah I'd love to get more support for this idea and begin logo design, motto, etc. XCloud would really set us apart, and immediately draw the eye towards decentralization.

those names are legit


my favorite part is how they dont have "coin" in the name like you mentioned

Woohoo, the name trains catching steam!! XClouds; Float Free, XCent ... Transfer Anonymous. Yeah like I said they both include one of the major points in development. If we could find a way to synchronize both, maybe by using the anonymous transfer motto with XClouds, I think we've got a winner.

[SpringfieldM1A]

Really strange to see some of those large and relentless dumps. Just before the release are people out of their mind?

Typical whale moves. Whales tend to dump on positive news before a positive market response is expected (like from the announcement of the dev) people new to the market question themselves when they see the price dropping "hey I thought the news was good, I must be wrong, I'd better sell"
This mild panic allows the whales to buy more at a cheaper price. Best strategy is check the fundamentals which are solid and either hold or join the cheap buy in.

I am not saying the entire market is being controlled by a few whales, but at these prices and at the current market cap it is easier to manipulate the market. Once the XC market matures a little these antics will be harder to perform. Keep an eye on the rich list, the top 100 will accumulate where the people with less XC will sell more.

Put trust in your investment, the business plan of XC is rock solid. There has not been any bad news or hiccups that should have any negative influence on the price of XC. The price volatility is caused by emotion. Cancel out emotion when trading, base decisions on facts and you will do good.

Stand fast

[evtrmm]

Problem with the XCloud is currently there are so many random products with that name.  

well, let's go to the moon and buy that name out.  lol.

[666try]

Really strange to see some of those large and relentless dumps. Just before the release are people out of their mind?

Whale's doing... sending wrong message to buyers so they can get in cheaper.

+1

Really strange..

Where are those large dumps from?

Just whale's doing?....

[anonymousxx1503]

The wallet release is on track for tonight.

It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet.  It is fully decentralized.  

Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem.  Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes.  This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.  

I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans.
As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.  


Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake.  There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking.  Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.


ATCSECURE

So you can get fucked a few times by bad actor nodes, then it learns to trust good ones? Requires trust you mean, as in not trustless? As in the government can buy Xnodes and make them run as intended to gain trust and then see all transactions?

What happened to the additional protocol layer?

[cyberhacker]

Really strange to see some of those large and relentless dumps. Just before the release are people out of their mind?

Typical whale moves. Whales tend to dump on positive news before a positive market response is expected (like from the announcement of the dev) people new to the market question themselves when they see the price dropping "hey I thought the news was good, I must be wrong, I'd better sell"
This mild panic allows the whales to buy more at a cheaper price. Best strategy is check the fundamentals which are solid and either hold or join the cheap buy in.

I am not saying the entire market is being controlled by a few whales, but at these prices and at the current market cap it is easier to manipulate the market. Once the XC market matures a little these antics will be harder to perform. Keep an eye on the rich list, the top 100 will accumulate where the people with less XC will sell more.

Put trust in your investment, the business plan of XC is rock solid. There has not been any bad news or hiccups that should have any negative influence on the price of XC. The price volatility is caused by emotion. Cancel out emotion when trading, base decisions on facts and you will do good.

Stand fast

you forgot those FUDers. instead of buying real investment, they spare no time to spit on any coin threatening their shaking chairs. you know about whom i am talking.

[weedsmoke420]

Excited for the release tonight, but I am also going to be protective of my coins.

I will be installing the new wallet that has Xnode enabled separately and start it with 1000 coins in it.  I will be doing this for a number of reasons, but number 1 is to try to identify the payments coming from transactions, as well as use these addresses in the block chain for true anonymity detection.  

BTW @BryceWeiner doesn't quite get the concept, so if anyone has a line to him, try to get him up to date on the real transactions.  The only thing "centralized" about this solution is that it remains within the XC network.

One more thing.  For those of you who don't know - this has implications far beyond cryptocurrency.  This has potential to be an enterprise solution for network security and IS the future.  Even if XC is not successful, I believe this is still laying down the groundwork for the "new internet" that so many have been looking for.  I.E. Blockchain 2.0

Someone mentioned 4-5 developers besides Dan working on this.  Yet some of these developers are not members of Bitcointalk.  I think this is for a reason, and that reason is because they are not Crypto specialists, but they are security and encryption specialists - look at Dan's history and he likely has those connections.  

Lastly, Please fix the following issue:


"Mined but not accepted" should be discarded from the wallet and not clutter up the transactions.  Either that or let them appear correctly in order and not sit in the first position which stays in the overview of the wallet.
This has been an issue on other wallets as well and I believe they were able to take care of it.

Could you please give more details on those developers and their projects?

The developer of XC and his team, are working round the clock to implement blockchain 2.0 application GUI within the blockchain; as well as create the first decentralized mesh network that exists within a blockchain. Its an internet apart from THE internet. But it gets faster the more people that connect, rather than our world wide web, which slows down. This application will revolutionize the entire cyber space.

Also TODAY, the coin is going 100% anonymous. From point A, it basically goes through a shredder and divided up into pieces that remain gravitated around each other, kind of like how our solar system travels through space time. Then at Point B, they are all put back together within FRACTIONS of a second. Congratulations, you've instantly washed your funds, within 2 seconds.

Impressive no?

XClouds

[brother3]

Really strange to see some of those large and relentless dumps. Just before the release are people out of their mind?

Typical whale moves. Whales tend to dump on positive news before a positive market response is expected (like from the announcement of the dev) people new to the market question themselves when they see the price dropping "hey I thought the news was good, I must be wrong, I'd better sell"
This mild panic allows the whales to buy more at a cheaper price. Best strategy is check the fundamentals which are solid and either hold or join the cheap buy in.

I am not saying the entire market is being controlled by a few whales, but at these prices and at the current market cap it is easier to manipulate the market. Once the XC market matures a little these antics will be harder to perform. Keep an eye on the rich list, the top 100 will accumulate where the people with less XC will sell more.

Put trust in your investment, the business plan of XC is rock solid. There has not been any bad news or hiccups that should have any negative influence on the price of XC. The price volatility is caused by emotion. Cancel out emotion when trading, base decisions on facts and you will do good.

Stand fast

I follow your posts with much interest.  Thanks for being here!

[cryptico]

The wallet release is on track for tonight.

It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet.  It is fully decentralized.  

Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem.  Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes.  This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.  

I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans.
As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.  


Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake.  There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking.  Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.


ATCSECURE

So you can get fucked a few times by bad actor nodes, then it learns to trust good ones? Requires trust you mean, as in not trustless? As in the government can buy Xnodes and make them run as intended to gain trust and then see all transactions?

What happened to the additional protocol layer?

Ok guys it's starting....please be polite and answer the question if anyone as the knowledge to do it I don't unfortunately.

[cyberhacker]

PROFESSIONAL fuders are coming!

lock and load.

[weedsmoke420]

The wallet release is on track for tonight.

It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet.  It is fully decentralized.  

Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem.  Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes.  This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.  

I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans.
As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.  


Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake.  There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking.  Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.


ATCSECURE

So you can get fucked a few times by bad actor nodes, then it learns to trust good ones? Requires trust you mean, as in not trustless? As in the government can buy Xnodes and make them run as intended to gain trust and then see all transactions?

What happened to the additional protocol layer?

It sounds like you don't understand, the transactions that exist within your wallet are untraceable. And nodes cannot control what passes through them, thats the point, and thats why its different from that 'other coin's protocol, because Xnodes are non-compromised.

100% True Anonymity Today. June 1. 2014. The day the world stood still.

[kobaya74]

The wallet release is on track for tonight.

It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet.  It is fully decentralized.  

Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem.  Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes.  This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.  

I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans.
As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.  


Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake.  There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking.  Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.


ATCSECURE

So you can get fucked a few times by bad actor nodes, then it learns to trust good ones? Requires trust you mean, as in not trustless? As in the government can buy Xnodes and make them run as intended to gain trust and then see all transactions?

What happened to the additional protocol layer?

  As the government can not buy many DRK masternodes and do the same? Or can not buy many many bitcoins and drop them to the floor? Or can not buy many many asic and 51% attack every crypto they want to? Answer is yes, they can. So we better sell all we have and get back to safety of fiat and corporate banks. I won't, you clearly should...

[prospect]

The wallet release is on track for tonight.

It will be mainnet ready, and have the XNode code in the wallet.  It is fully decentralized.  

Just to clarify somethings as well - REV2 will have a solution to the bad actor problem.  Using a dynamic learning trust system, the wallet will choose the trusted nodes over the bad actor nodes.  This also will be tied into the fee system so it will also be incentive based.  

I will also be laying out a very high level roadmap of what’s next, what’s coming and long term plans.
As part of this process, I will be putting together a complete business plan, which will be release later this week.  


Also if your running an XNODE your 1000 XC's will not stake.  There is a feature in the wallet - reserve balance - which basically prevents those coins from staking.  Xnodes will need to use this feature so that the coins are available for the Xpool.


ATCSECURE

So you can get fucked a few times by bad actor nodes, then it learns to trust good ones? Requires trust you mean, as in not trustless? As in the government can buy Xnodes and make them run as intended to gain trust and then see all transactions?

What happened to the additional protocol layer?

Ok guys it's starting....please be polite and answer the question if anyone as the knowledge to do it I don't unfortunately.

It does not matter. The more nodes there are, the harder it will get to detect any transactions. If you should control 2/3 of the nodes within the p2p network it might be possible to trace transactions. Once you hit 2 nodes in between it is very hard to detect. Highly unlikely to control that many nodes.

So, to sum it up, the more people that helps running xnodes.. the harder it will be to trace transactions, if not unpossible. Second, transaction times and stability will increse with running nodes as well. This is what decentralized is all about.. you can think of it as torrent traffic as well. Multipath can be applied to any sort of traffic. Thats why its kewl.

[cyberhacker]

fuders are saying we are brainwashed by XC dev.

but i would say no one single altcoin can brainwash me so far, except XC. 


SO BE IT. BRAINWASH ME, ENLIGHTEN ME, GUIDE ME.  X - COIN!

[Teka]

I'm having some issues with SMF, anyone know how I can let users of a certain group read posts but no actually post in them? They most also be able to post in one board. So far it seems like newbies would have to log out to read posts which isn't user friendly.

Anyone?

[Teka]

I found the best way for to ban users, a karma system. If a users has -10 karma, I will personally look over the posts and see if they must be banned.

[ChilliWinter]

I'm having some issues with SMF, anyone know how I can let users of a certain group read posts but no actually post in them? They most also be able to post in one board. So far it seems like newbies would have to log out to read posts which isn't user friendly.

Anyone?

You should be able to do it via admin pages,
create some groups then allow permissions for each group
I did that in the past on my corp Eve online forum

edit : also using profiles
http://wiki.simplemachines.org/smf/Board_Permissions

[kpierce77]

Hey look at that.  People are actually starting to buy this coin on MP.  Hopefully they're getting word about the wallet release.