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August 15, 2014, 02:49:31 PM |
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ATCSecure,
We should make a decision right now that if an exchange gets hacked and XC is stolen there will be no rollback or blacklist. It is what it is.
Anyone who has there XC sitting on an exchange and is that stupid deserves anything that may happen..yes i agree. Right now, around 13.43% of XC is sitting in Mintpal. http://chainz.cryptoid.info/xc/#!wallets If you have a lot of coins sitting at Mintpal, what are you thinking? They got hacked recently. Bter's NXT hack might be some new unknown attack vector that could be affecting Mintpal or other exchange too. What are you waiting for? Withdraw those XC away from the exchange! I hold 70+k none on exchanges split up on different machines all in cold storage just in-case anything happens hahaha XC is my precious Wow, that's a nice hold, probably top 50 Richlist for you, you however seem worried to have them staking in a wallet on-line? I understand currently there isn't any computer which is safe, but lets say for example you have your wallet on-line with 70000 XC staking, would your IP address be traceable to those coins? Or are you just playing safe and keeping them cold? I'm new to this and would like to learn about real world concerns. Nahh brother i just have them separated into different wallets on different machines just incase something stupid happens all in cold storage just splitting it up that way if one pc fucks up and i can't recover i got the others, i'm not taking any chances with XC, i was an early BTC buyer(under $1) and will not make the same mistake i see XC bigger then BTC in the near future.
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August 15, 2014, 02:52:18 PM |
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Looking forward to a bright future here.
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August 15, 2014, 02:54:43 PM |
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ATCSecure,
We should make a decision right now that if an exchange gets hacked and XC is stolen there will be no rollback or blacklist. It is what it is.
Given the 50m NXT stolen from bter this should have some priority, a rollback is imo a mistake, leaving coins on an exchange is. When you do so, you must accept the consequences
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August 15, 2014, 02:55:45 PM Last edit: August 15, 2014, 03:10:51 PM by dadon |
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Looking forward to a bright future here.
If you invest in XC NOW!! your future is bright, can almost guarantee you a 1k investment today will be worth a million in 3-5 years time...sounds crazy hey!...it's not...BTW everyone i'm not a pumper i believe in XC i will be holding my stash for at least 24 months..XC is the next coin you will see go to BTC level..
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August 15, 2014, 03:12:20 PM |
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atcsecure just needs to develop a decentralized exchange. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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August 15, 2014, 03:15:46 PM Last edit: August 15, 2014, 03:27:02 PM by dadon |
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atcsecure just needs to develop a decentralized exchange. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Dan will take XC and crypto to the corporate level, Buying XC is like buying apple or facebook stocks back in the day..and more ppl are recognizing the similarity's between XC and other huge tech booms everyday....get in now because one day $1 per XC will be a joke over drinks...someone has to be the one who told you so..and it's me..mark my words..XC is the next big thing.
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August 15, 2014, 03:28:41 PM |
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atcsecure just needs to develop a decentralized exchange. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe some day, but for now I think investors need to know the "fork or not" position of the core team. After the first time you could let it rest but now that another $2m of coins got stolen/held in ransom a clear statement would clear the air.
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August 15, 2014, 03:32:49 PM |
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atcsecure just needs to develop a decentralized exchange. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe some day, but for now I think investors need to know the "fork or not" position of the core team. After the first time you could let it rest but now that another $2m of coins got stolen/held in ransom a clear statement would clear the air. some day?? that shit is less the 12 months off, I cant remember an XC fork correct me if im wrong, XC is next level shit I been around since BTC early days, XC is what we have been waiting for.
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August 15, 2014, 03:36:56 PM |
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atcsecure just needs to develop a decentralized exchange. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe some day, but for now I think investors need to know the "fork or not" position of the core team. After the first time you could let it rest but now that another $2m of coins got stolen/held in ransom a clear statement would clear the air. some day?? that shit is less the 12 months off, I cant remember an XC fork correct me if im wrong, XC is next level shit I been around since BTC early days, XC is what we have been waiting for. IMO, the XC dev team should take the stance that XC is decentralized and they can't roll it back. That's it, nothing can be done except try to identify the thief and catch him/her.
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August 15, 2014, 03:38:41 PM |
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Looking forward to a bright future here.
If you invest in XC NOW!! your future is bright, can almost guarantee you a 1k investment today will be worth a million in 3-5 years time...sounds crazy hey!...it's not... I worked it out, with your hold that would mean your 50 Million $ Richer in 3 -5 Years !!!!! who knows...... Out of all the Alts out there currently though, i can confidently say,those with more volume at the moment than XC are going Nowhere. I'll try and explain what i mean in fashion terms !! XC is the Levis jeans of the Crypto Innovation, solid, steady and will be just as strong for years to come. The others to me just aren't marketable to the mainstream which mainly tech savvy understand, this is starting to change though. Bit like elderly people with smart phones, I'm pretty sure everyone here knows a Gran or Grandpa you'd never of expected to use a smart phone USING a smart phone!! Sure it was difficult for them to learn, but the first few that did where like, you know what... this actually is pretty cool. Few years on i see 60 Year old's on smart phones really ENJOYING it! And when Grandpa A sees Garandpa B using one, it's nothing but growth after that! It gives them confidence to change habits they would not of otherwise changed, like trusting on-line banking and shopping on-line. Why is this important you might ask? I believe we are at the X over point now with XC. It's not perfect but it's extremely marketable and has everything needed to go Hyper.
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August 15, 2014, 03:45:10 PM |
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atcsecure just needs to develop a decentralized exchange. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe some day, but for now I think investors need to know the "fork or not" position of the core team. After the first time you could let it rest but now that another $2m of coins got stolen/held in ransom a clear statement would clear the air. some day?? that shit is less the 12 months off, I cant remember an XC fork correct me if im wrong, XC is next level shit I been around since BTC early days, XC is what we have been waiting for. What I want to know is this: if the 14.x% of XC got stolen from MP, will the core team consider a fork or not? Yes, I know and beleave the great future that's just around the corner but in imo a $2m hack is a big thing. Don't think it's good to wait for it to happen, two big exchanges got hacked in a month. To me it is a real possibility we need to talk about before it happens, not afterwards
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August 15, 2014, 03:45:39 PM |
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Looking forward to a bright future here.
If you invest in XC NOW!! your future is bright, can almost guarantee you a 1k investment today will be worth a million in 3-5 years time...sounds crazy hey!...it's not... I worked it out, with your hold that would mean your 50 Million $ Richer in 3 -5 Years !!!!! who knows...... Out of all the Alts out there currently though, i can confidently say,those with more volume at the moment than XC are going Nowhere. I'll try and explain what i mean in fashion terms !! XC is the Levis jeans of the Crypto Innovation, solid, steady and will be just as strong for years to come. The others to me just aren't marketable to the mainstream which mainly tech savvy understand, this is starting to change though. Bit like elderly people with smart phones, I'm pretty sure everyone here knows a Gran or Grandpa you'd never of expected to use a smart phone USING a smart phone!! Sure it was difficult for them to learn, but the first few that did where like, you know what... this actually is pretty cool. Few years on i see 60 Year old's on smart phones really ENJOYING it! And when Grandpa A sees Garandpa B using one, it's nothing but growth after that! It gives them confidence to change habits they would not of otherwise changed, like trusting on-line banking and shopping on-line. Why is this important you might ask? I believe we are at the X over point now with XC. It's not perfect but it's extremely marketable and has everything needed to go Hyper. Spot on. Just wait till you we release our UI.
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August 15, 2014, 03:45:50 PM |
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I have my coins held on laptop and pc. On laptop never had over 8 active connections but on pc 18 wass top. 60 accitve connections!!! That is huge dude. I also believe that many acctive coonections is good thing.
Is there an explaination about why he haz 60 and i have 18 top?
I don't know how much I have now... (I can't see them because I'm @ work now...) I'll look into it and post a screenshot when I get home... not garanteed that I have 60+ then... (It was a couple of weeks ago I'll keep you posted.. I will do a getpeerinfo of all the nodes... as promised a screenshot from my client: @ the moment 54 connections ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Faq2OOWK.jpg&t=665&c=-KYAIo4awEyaUA) and the getpeerinfo: (I've cleared to only ip adresses) getpeerinfo
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August 15, 2014, 03:48:06 PM |
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Damn, it's awfully quiet in here and on the exchange. A friend I recently convinced about XC wants to buy 25 btc worth of XC. Anyone willing to sell otc? Please PM me.
Here's an idea: - every so often, some of us will want to sell XC to pay salaries, rent, etc. - why don't we post the amount and asking price here and see if there are any takers? - if there's a deal, trades can take place on Mintpal, which will keep the volume up. - and the community will understand the reason for selling rather than being perturbed/outraged at the stupidity of sellers. P.S. This was Bisky's idea. Thanks Bisky! P.P.S. This would only make sense to those who want to see the price head upwards but still need to sell some XC. Sounds like a great idea. But, shouldn't this be done on a separate sub-thread? I mean, XC trade thread could deal with whatever people want to exchange. Possibly... But that would remove one of its advantages, which is to let community members know what the selling is for. I reckon that sell offers should be posted publicly, negotiated privately, and then final agreements to trade posted publicly. After that the community can sit back and watch the trade take place on Bitcoinwisdom.
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August 15, 2014, 03:49:51 PM |
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Looking forward to a bright future here.
If you invest in XC NOW!! your future is bright, can almost guarantee you a 1k investment today will be worth a million in 3-5 years time...sounds crazy hey!...it's not... I worked it out, with your hold that would mean your 50 Million $ Richer in 3 -5 Years !!!!! who knows...... Out of all the Alts out there currently though, i can confidently say,those with more volume at the moment than XC are going Nowhere. I'll try and explain what i mean in fashion terms !! XC is the Levis jeans of the Crypto Innovation, solid, steady and will be just as strong for years to come. The others to me just aren't marketable to the mainstream which mainly tech savvy understand, this is starting to change though. Bit like elderly people with smart phones, I'm pretty sure everyone here knows a Gran or Grandpa you'd never of expected to use a smart phone USING a smart phone!! Sure it was difficult for them to learn, but the first few that did where like, you know what... this actually is pretty cool. Few years on i see 60 Year old's on smart phones really ENJOYING it! And when Grandpa A sees Garandpa B using one, it's nothing but growth after that! It gives them confidence to change habits they would not of otherwise changed, like trusting on-line banking and shopping on-line. Why is this important you might ask? I believe we are at the X over point now with XC. It's not perfect but it's extremely marketable and has everything needed to go Hyper. +1 XC has all the things it needs to push crypto mainstream, it's a currency like BTC but..it's anonymous add on anonymous txt voice and video communication and you have a winner..but that's just part of the tech and you got too take into consideration the team behind it..look what Dan and the team have achieved with minimal funding behind them wait till they have major funding behind them....+ plus Dan has been the CEO of a major company he knows how to manage XC when it gets BTC big...XC is a diamond in the rough.
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August 15, 2014, 03:53:03 PM |
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atcsecure just needs to develop a decentralized exchange. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) Maybe some day, but for now I think investors need to know the "fork or not" position of the core team. After the first time you could let it rest but now that another $2m of coins got stolen/held in ransom a clear statement would clear the air. some day?? that shit is less the 12 months off, I cant remember an XC fork correct me if im wrong, XC is next level shit I been around since BTC early days, XC is what we have been waiting for. IMO, the XC dev team should take the stance that XC is decentralized and they can't roll it back. That's it, nothing can be done except try to identify the thief and catch him/her. Agreed, but all I did was buy some XC in the early days. This desition belongs to to ATC. For alt world outsiders a rollback is a big red warning flag. Think that if ATC is clear upfront it will clear the air. edit: stake or take the risk
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August 15, 2014, 03:55:01 PM |
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NEVER do a rollback. I can't take any coin that does a rollback seriously, because then you've just elected the dev as your central authority. Why not just use fiat if you're ok with that?
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August 15, 2014, 03:56:04 PM |
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Looking forward to a bright future here.
future is always bright if you have a faith in it
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August 15, 2014, 03:56:12 PM |
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If any XC gets ripped off from exchanges being hacked too bad in my opinion no fork no nothing... serves you right for not caring about something so precious to begin with, would you have BTC sitting on an exchange? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) well XC is more valuable in the long run then BTC in my opinion more fool you...better luck next time(if there is a next time) try getting BTC to fork if you get your BTC stolen just ridiculous....
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August 15, 2014, 03:56:28 PM |
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NEVER do a rollback. I can't take any coin that does a rollback seriously, because then you've just elected the dev as your central authority. Why not just use fiat if you're ok with that?
My understanding is that PoS requires consensus on 51% or more of the coins? If this is the case and the dev holds 51% of the coins ... then it's working like it should isn't it?
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