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August 20, 2014, 10:23:59 AM |
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...as I can see It is time to sell my old stash of X11 coin..bye guys and I wish all of you good luck ...
Could you explain why and give some reasoning?
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August 20, 2014, 10:27:07 AM |
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...as I can see It is time to sell my old stash of X11 coin..bye guys and I wish all of you good luck ...
No Dida what are you doing and why? wait for Synechist to clarify if you sell I might sell as well.
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August 20, 2014, 10:30:18 AM |
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hi all, what is happening here ?...didn't being here for a month. Are we collaborating with QIBUCK ? Dan are you here? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is happening that another big decision has been taken with no community consultation..unfortunately. I understand your point, but in reality it would not be relevant to ask community vote for each "big" decision. First we would need to invent a legit vote process. Our team would have to present us all their knowledge of the current and futur situation in orders to let us choose the right decision. The entire vote process would take time and energy. Some decisions would be close and community would debate arguments for days... As result, it would cost a lost in productivity from our team and create leaks in the XC devellopment strategy being completely face up. As it doesn't seems possible and good for the coin asking for the community to vote, we should simply trust XC team. We can still give our view and advice, and warn our team if we think they could do a strategic mistake. Talking about the collaboration with QIBUCK, we should probably wait for details before deciding if it's good or not. Some community members seems to be against collaboration with others coins as a principle, i disagree because XC could benefit from it. We could devellop some specific features with collaboration giving us the opportunity to stay on top of technological innovation. XC team will still continue to deliver his own technological innovation and only XC investors could profit from it. Finally codes are always disclosed, XC would be at the bleeding edge of innovations leaving other coins behind.
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August 20, 2014, 10:30:45 AM |
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Who got the idea that any sort of merge (with Cache or with QiBucks) was going to happen?
This could not be further from the truth. What the hell?
It's a development partnership, not a merge. A development partnership is where you pool resources to achieve a mutually beneficial goal.
The benefits do not need to be symmetrical.
The benefits will not create competition for XC.
I think a fair number of people in this thread need to understand the value of collaboration. Crypto is in fact a community, albeit a contentious one, and community is strongly relational. Broadly speaking there are two ways to be relational: to contend or to collaborate. Behind the scenes there are some devs collaborating. Out here there are a bunch of people bickering.
Can you stop and think about how this stuff actually works?
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August 20, 2014, 10:34:24 AM |
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...as I can see It is time to sell my old stash of X11 coin..bye guys and I wish all of you good luck ...
No Dida what are you doing and why? wait for Synechist to clarify if you sell I might sell as well. Please give me a heads up before you 2 sell ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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August 20, 2014, 10:40:07 AM |
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Who got the idea that any sort of merge (with Cache or with QiBucks) was going to happen?
This could not be further from the truth. What the hell?
It's a development partnership, not a merge. A development partnership is where you pool resources to achieve a mutually beneficial goal.
The benefits do not need to be symmetrical.
The benefits will not create competition for XC.
I think a fair number of people in this thread need to understand the value of collaboration. Crypto is in fact a community, albeit a contentious one, and community is strongly relational. Broadly speaking there are two ways to be relational: to contend or to collaborate. Behind the scenes there are some devs collaborating. Out here there are a bunch of people bickering.
Can you stop and think about how this stuff actually works?
Thank you
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August 20, 2014, 10:41:30 AM |
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hi all, what is happening here ?...didn't being here for a month. Are we collaborating with QIBUCK ? Dan are you here? ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) It is happening that another big decision has been taken with no community consultation..unfortunately. I understand your point, but in reality it would not be relevant to ask community vote for each "big" decision. First we would need to invent a legit vote process. Our team would have to present us all their knowledge of the current and futur situation in orders to let us choose the right decision. The entire vote process would take time and energy. Some decisions would be close and community would debate arguments for days... As result, it would cost a lost in productivity from our team and create leaks in the XC devellopment strategy being completely face up. As it doesn't seems possible and good for the coin asking for the community to vote, we should simply trust XC team. We can still give our view and advice, and warn our team if we think they could do a strategic mistake. Talking about the collaboration with QIBUCK, we should probably wait for details before deciding if it's good or not. Some community members seems to be against collaboration with others coins as a principle, i disagree because XC could benefit from it. We could devellop some specific features with collaboration giving us the opportunity to stay on top of technological innovation. XC team will still continue to deliver his own technological innovation and only XC investors could profit from it. Finally codes are always disclosed, XC would be at the bleeding edge of innovations leaving other coins behind. I agree with your point the decisions can be made by the XC Team but I am sure that the Decision has to be made AFTER community discussion on a big change. This will give as well people the opportunity to get in early in the other coin if they see the potential, as for the QBK example, or if they want to dump if they do not agree, or just hold and say they do not agree and will make feel that the community views are taken into consideration. It can just be done as a one or two day discussion presenting the project and what they want to achieve with the collaboration. Made in this way it seems that the decision has been made without regard of the community. Made in this way the decision will bring confusion, fud and all we have seen in the last 10 pages, made in this way community members will feel that they do not count.
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August 20, 2014, 10:43:51 AM |
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...as I can see It is time to sell my old stash of X11 coin..bye guys and I wish all of you good luck ...
No Dida what are you doing and why? wait for Synechist to clarify if you sell I might sell as well. Please give me a heads up before you 2 sell ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I don't want to sell actually but I am feeling pretty dam trashed right now.
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August 20, 2014, 10:43:55 AM |
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Who got the idea that any sort of merge (with Cache or with QiBucks) was going to happen?
This could not be further from the truth. What the hell?
It's a development partnership, not a merge. A development partnership is where you pool resources to achieve a mutually beneficial goal.
The benefits do not need to be symmetrical.
The benefits will not create competition for XC.
I think a fair number of people in this thread need to understand the value of collaboration. Crypto is in fact a community, albeit a contentious one, and community is strongly relational. Broadly speaking there are two ways to be relational: to contend or to collaborate. Behind the scenes there are some devs collaborating. Out here there are a bunch of people bickering.
Can you stop and think about how this stuff actually works?
At last some reason! I am so sad that there are plenty babies here that got 20x my holdings just because they were lucky enough to learn of crypto six months or 1 year before me. So unfair.
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August 20, 2014, 10:44:34 AM |
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Who got the idea that any sort of merge (with Cache or with QiBucks) was going to happen?
This could not be further from the truth. What the hell?
It's a development partnership, not a merge. A development partnership is where you pool resources to achieve a mutually beneficial goal.
The benefits do not need to be symmetrical.
The benefits will not create competition for XC.
I think a fair number of people in this thread need to understand the value of collaboration. Crypto is in fact a community, albeit a contentious one, and community is strongly relational. Broadly speaking there are two ways to be relational: to contend or to collaborate. Behind the scenes there are some devs collaborating. Out here there are a bunch of people bickering.
Can you stop and think about how this stuff actually works?
thx for explaining it...maybe I will stick for a while to see where it goes...so we are putting our brains together for mutual benefits - i like that....and where is Dan hiding this days?
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August 20, 2014, 10:49:42 AM |
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Who got the idea that any sort of merge (with Cache or with QiBucks) was going to happen?
This could not be further from the truth. What the hell?
It's a development partnership, not a merge. A development partnership is where you pool resources to achieve a mutually beneficial goal.
The benefits do not need to be symmetrical.
The benefits will not create competition for XC.
I think a fair number of people in this thread need to understand the value of collaboration. Crypto is in fact a community, albeit a contentious one, and community is strongly relational. Broadly speaking there are two ways to be relational: to contend or to collaborate. Behind the scenes there are some devs collaborating. Out here there are a bunch of people bickering.
Can you stop and think about how this stuff actually works?
At last some reason! I am so sad that there are plenty babies here that got 20x my holdings just because they were lucky enough to learn of crypto six months or 1 year before me. So unfair. I am 31 what about you? Being critical is actually a positive mental attitude of an adult Human Being. I have appreciated your contribution to the XC community by the way.
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August 20, 2014, 10:50:48 AM |
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...as I can see It is time to sell my old stash of X11 coin..bye guys and I wish all of you good luck ...
No Dida what are you doing and why? wait for Synechist to clarify if you sell I might sell as well. Please give me a heads up before you 2 sell ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) I don't want to sell actually but I am feeling pretty dam trashed right now. thx for explaining it...maybe I will stick for a while to see where it goes...so we are putting our brains together for mutual benefits - i like that.... phew.
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August 20, 2014, 10:57:43 AM |
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...as I can see It is time to sell my old stash of X11 coin..bye guys and I wish all of you good luck ...
No Dida what are you doing and why? wait for Synechist to clarify if you sell I might sell as well. Are you seriously making investment decisions like that ? what has changed? XC is still the same superior platform plus an additional feature coming about through colaboration with another team. yes it wasn't announced by synechist and yes silver... went a little overboard when discussion got heated but seriously guys , buck up. we are all probably spoiled a bit since synechist is the godfather of keeping things civilized all the time , but not everybody has that skill of writing and patience, that doesn't mean they shouldn't be allowed to speak on behalve of the team here in this thread. they asked Dan if its ok to spread that news, at that point he should have directed them to Arlyn. he is a fantastic coder but he doesn't really has a sense for PR. well shit happens but right now you making way to much out of this. I love this community and we have some great people in here including you. But i really can't hear this "threatening to sell" shit anymore to be honest. especially if you make it dependend on some fellow member taking the lead. thats some teenager group dynamic behavior that doesn't fit this community and neither you since you made some great contributions in the past. at the end its pros and cons. even if you have this colaboration on the con side (which i don't) ,don't the pros still exaggeratedly outweigh the cons ? I don't want to talk you out of selling btw. I have no problem with anybody reevaluating where their money is safest. I do this regularly and the answer is always XCurrency, also today.
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August 20, 2014, 10:59:39 AM |
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been away from the thread.
Can someone give me a quick breakdown of what all the screaming is about please.
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Omg!! i have 61 active connections for the first time! Maybe is about this fight!:)
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August 20, 2014, 11:03:52 AM |
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Who got the idea that any sort of merge (with Cache or with QiBucks) was going to happen?
This could not be further from the truth. What the hell?
It's a development partnership, not a merge. A development partnership is where you pool resources to achieve a mutually beneficial goal.
The benefits do not need to be symmetrical.
The benefits will not create competition for XC.
I think a fair number of people in this thread need to understand the value of collaboration. Crypto is in fact a community, albeit a contentious one, and community is strongly relational. Broadly speaking there are two ways to be relational: to contend or to collaborate. Behind the scenes there are some devs collaborating. Out here there are a bunch of people bickering.
Can you stop and think about how this stuff actually works?
At last some reason! I am so sad that there are plenty babies here that got 20x my holdings just because they were lucky enough to learn of crypto six months or 1 year before me. So unfair. I am 31 what about you? Being critical is actually a positive mental attitude of an adult Human Being. I have appreciated your contribution to the XC community by the way. The last 5 pages have been filled with total bitching about an actually gr8 new feature, you have to keep an open mind, XC is a collaborative effor and team tries to make our currency remain modern/progressive, particuraly not stagnant and I love that. I remind you that even though im probably older XC-wise than 99% of the people here, im still holding a minimal sum compared to most of you, yet im not being a drama queen. Last but not least m8, I didnt call any names or didn't point any fingers(sharply), so don't fall into my trap ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) @studio1one An XC foundation member(that doesn't post a lot here) made an ann about a new collaboration between XC and another coin, which will provide another method of income for XC holders, but people starting bitching and FUDing about it. Positive turned to negative, like with 80% of XC news in here. Holder games if you ask me. Price bounced back up today.
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August 20, 2014, 11:07:20 AM |
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Who got the idea that any sort of merge (with Cache or with QiBucks) was going to happen?
This could not be further from the truth. What the hell?
It's a development partnership, not a merge. A development partnership is where you pool resources to achieve a mutually beneficial goal.
The benefits do not need to be symmetrical.
The benefits will not create competition for XC.
I think a fair number of people in this thread need to understand the value of collaboration. Crypto is in fact a community, albeit a contentious one, and community is strongly relational. Broadly speaking there are two ways to be relational: to contend or to collaborate. Behind the scenes there are some devs collaborating. Out here there are a bunch of people bickering.
Can you stop and think about how this stuff actually works?
At last some reason! I am so sad that there are plenty babies here that got 20x my holdings just because they were lucky enough to learn of crypto six months or 1 year before me. So unfair. I am 31 what about you? Being critical is actually a positive mental attitude of an adult Human Being. I have appreciated your contribution to the XC community by the way. The last 5 pages have been filled with total bitching about an actually gr8 new feature, you have to keep an open mind, XC is a collaborative effor and team tries to make our currency remain modern/progressive, particuraly not stagnant and I love that. I remind you that even though im probably older XC-wise than 99% of the people here, im still holding a minimal sum compared to most of you, yet im not being a drama queen. Last but not least m8, I didnt call any names or didn't point any fingers(sharply), so don't fall into my trap ![Tongue](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/tongue.gif) I bitch as there has not been community consultation on a decision that had to be made public before being implemented this is my point of you, I understand is not yours.
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August 20, 2014, 11:12:08 AM |
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My god guys ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) ...Im still on vacation ...Im looking at current price stagnation and Im thinking : lets see with our old community members what is going on and in a few minutes I being spit, humiliated and god knows what. Bye all..
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August 20, 2014, 11:13:24 AM |
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been away from the thread.
Can someone give me a quick breakdown of what all the screaming is about please.
This appeared out of the blue... We wanted to thank the XC TEAM for collaborating with QIBUCK COIN on a new revenue generating wallet enhancement feature. We look forward to our JV partnership in this new development. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) and caused a shit storm. shortly followed by this... Hi all
I'd like to confirm the news just posted here.
The XC and Qibuck devs are partnering to develop a feature that'll allow nodes to earn money.
A few details:
- We will make an official announcement about this on Friday.
- It's a particularly exciting feature that I'm not sure anyone else has thought of yet.
- The reason for the partnership is that by sharing resources we reduce both development time and costs, and in this case we will not disadvantage XC's market position in any way (more info as to why will follow).
- Silverkinguk (Samuel) is part of the XC team and so if he announces something it can be trusted.
- This is not the undisclosed PR-related development that I mentioned yesterday.
P.S. I've been aware of this development, but was not aware that it would be announced now. My apologies for the confusion.
People generally felt like this... If there will be collaborations within coins XC community members should know in advance in order to get in early in the other coin at least and get the benefit. It seem now that just the Inside circle members know about this invest in the coin early and take advantage of the XC community. I am here since two weeks from the start of XC and have all my BTC invested in XC and now I feel kind of abused sincerely.
Having said so I hope this JV will benefit both coins I hope to get some BTC to enter QBK at this stage......I would have liked to get in early though.
But it basically boils down to this... Who got the idea that any sort of merge (with Cache or with QiBucks) was going to happen?
This could not be further from the truth. What the hell?
It's a development partnership, not a merge. A development partnership is where you pool resources to achieve a mutually beneficial goal.
The benefits do not need to be symmetrical.
The benefits will not create competition for XC.
I think a fair number of people in this thread need to understand the value of collaboration. Crypto is in fact a community, albeit a contentious one, and community is strongly relational. Broadly speaking there are two ways to be relational: to contend or to collaborate. Behind the scenes there are some devs collaborating. Out here there are a bunch of people bickering.
Can you stop and think about how this stuff actually works?
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August 20, 2014, 11:27:33 AM |
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Seems that people are not understanding the word collaboration Collaborations always bring good things, a lot faster
If you continue to react like this as a community, the things won't look good at all. New investors will pass this, reading all those negative things, and such an unstable behavior
Relax, and refrain from acting so aggressively when you don't even know the details about the matter
Chris
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