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September 30, 2014, 12:32:39 PM |
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Does it lack the bloat that cryptonote coins have?
there is no bloat. Yes thats correct, no bloat. Has this actually been quantified in any way? Something like "10 XC transactions result in 5x larger block than 10 BTC transactions" or so?
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September 30, 2014, 12:43:05 PM |
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Does it lack the bloat that cryptonote coins have?
there is no bloat. Yes thats correct, no bloat. Has this actually been quantified in any way? Something like "10 XC transactions result in 5x larger block than 10 BTC transactions" or so? I am pretty sure the current release allows XC trades of up to 100 XC if not more, can't you test it by yourself?(I am questioning the feasibility of extracting the results you need, not being ironic)
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September 30, 2014, 12:44:07 PM |
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Never thought of XPay but now you said it ... wil never forget it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Great name imo Yeah i gave it some thought and came to the conclusion XCurrency sounds to "economical" for everyday people. thats great for the platform but not for the coin itself. XPay would close that gap. XC has some old man dust on it for various reasons that hinder a lot of people to connect with it on a emotional level which is also important for mass adoption. XC gets often compared to apple, well they got that shit down and we not quiet yet. I sometimes get the impression the write ups of our Press releases are almost "too good" from an articulation and writing style point of few. I personally take great joy in people like synechist that talk and think outside the box but lets face it, majority of people rather get put of if they can't relate to someone or something and XC presentation while one of a kind gives me that expression sometimes of beeing to "special". i don't want street talk but a little more peoples language would be better i think. thats not personal synechist , i love your writing style in this thread but for the public image it shoul be more accessible. Right now XC looks like some project of only University professors 50+ if you only read about it in the media and not in here. XC is technically the best. period. and we who know can buy still cheap cause XC on the other hand is not cool atm. for mass adoption that has to change.
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September 30, 2014, 01:05:00 PM |
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Never thought of XPay but now you said it ... wil never forget it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Great name imo Yeah i gave it some thought and came to the conclusion XCurrency sounds to "economical" for everyday people. thats great for the platform but not for the coin itself. XPay would close that gap. XC has some old man dust on it for various reasons that hinder a lot of people to connect with it on a emotional level which is also important for mass adoption. XC gets often compared to apple, well they got that shit down and we not quiet yet. I sometimes get the impression the write ups of our Press releases are almost "too good" from an articulation and writing style point of few. I personally take great joy in people like synechist that talk and think outside the box but lets face it, majority of people rather get put of if they can't relate to someone or something and XC presentation while one of a kind gives me that expression sometimes of beeing to "special". i don't want street talk but a little more peoples language would be better i think. thats not personal synechist , i love your writing style in this thread but for the public image it shoul be more accessible. Right now XC looks like some project of only University professors 50+ if you only read about it in the media and not in here. XC is technically the best. period. and we who know can buy still cheap cause XC on the other hand is not cool atm. for mass adoption that has to change. Yes, I do needed a dictionary on more than one of those releases, even on some of his posts. And that 'easy to read' description about how the anon tech of XC works got a lot of positive response. thats reminds me: one thing was unclear to me, second paragraph: - since this network is a mesh, it does not encounter problems if nodes drop out of the network during the transaction. Thus it's robust against DOS attacks (i.e when a node refuses to sign, which breaks other technologies, like CoinJoin).Fail to understand the link between a 'bad node' (fail to sign can be intentional if i understand it correct) & DOS, Atm think the terms 'multisig' & 'transaction timeout' are needed to explain the reaction to that event or even a split of that bullet between tech problems or a deliberate attempt to steal the coins that sould be forwarded
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September 30, 2014, 02:26:31 PM |
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XCurrency is a solid coin. One of the few rocks in a very volatile crypto landscape. It's definitely a long-term HOLD. I'm just happy prices are where they currently are, so I can keep acquiring slowly. Great work by this team! Also, it's nice to see some of the XCurrency dev team now working with NHZ. Hopefully that eventually becomes the NXT killer.
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Dungor
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September 30, 2014, 02:27:58 PM |
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Never thought of XPay but now you said it ... wil never forget it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Great name imo Yeah i gave it some thought and came to the conclusion XCurrency sounds to "economical" for everyday people. thats great for the platform but not for the coin itself. XPay would close that gap. XC has some old man dust on it for various reasons that hinder a lot of people to connect with it on a emotional level which is also important for mass adoption. XC gets often compared to apple, well they got that shit down and we not quiet yet. I sometimes get the impression the write ups of our Press releases are almost "too good" from an articulation and writing style point of few. I personally take great joy in people like synechist that talk and think outside the box but lets face it, majority of people rather get put of if they can't relate to someone or something and XC presentation while one of a kind gives me that expression sometimes of beeing to "special". i don't want street talk but a little more peoples language would be better i think. thats not personal synechist , i love your writing style in this thread but for the public image it shoul be more accessible. Right now XC looks like some project of only University professors 50+ if you only read about it in the media and not in here. XC is technically the best. period. and we who know can buy still cheap cause XC on the other hand is not cool atm. for mass adoption that has to change. Yes, I do needed a dictionary on more than one of those releases, even on some of his posts. And that 'easy to read' description about how the anon tech of XC works got a lot of positive response. thats reminds me: one thing was unclear to me, second paragraph: - since this network is a mesh, it does not encounter problems if nodes drop out of the network during the transaction. Thus it's robust against DOS attacks (i.e when a node refuses to sign, which breaks other technologies, like CoinJoin).Fail to understand the link between a 'bad node' (fail to sign can be intentional if i understand it correct) & DOS, Atm think the terms 'multisig' & 'transaction timeout' are needed to explain the reaction to that event or even a split of that bullet between tech problems or a deliberate attempt to steal the coins that sould be forwarded I agree, this is why I have suggested the use of cartoons. Show the users the benefits they get with a picture format story, the front page cartoon should show "why XC?", the subpages should show the benefits each feature can deliver to the customer with a scenario cartoon. However this is only needed at 3.0 when XC targets the public, for now I believe that the communication style is deterring trolls. One minor suggestion would be adding the articles like the web 3.0 as links in the roadmap.
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Dungor
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September 30, 2014, 03:05:14 PM |
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Bitcoin enabled counterfeit proof transaction of wealth as a reaction to the central banks reckless conduct with the printing press in the wake of the too big to fail bailout. Bitcoin can bring banking to the un-banked.
XC is commodifying ethicality in order to ethicise the market. It is privatizing and anonymising social transaction as a reaction to a time where NSA, Google, Facebook is storing wast data on you, either stealing your privacy or buying it cheap through opaque pricing structures. XC can give private identities to those who doesn't have privacy or identity.
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hoertest
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September 30, 2014, 03:31:42 PM |
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Never thought of XPay but now you said it ... wil never forget it ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) Great name imo Yeah i gave it some thought and came to the conclusion XCurrency sounds to "economical" for everyday people. thats great for the platform but not for the coin itself. XPay would close that gap. XC has some old man dust on it for various reasons that hinder a lot of people to connect with it on a emotional level which is also important for mass adoption. XC gets often compared to apple, well they got that shit down and we not quiet yet. I sometimes get the impression the write ups of our Press releases are almost "too good" from an articulation and writing style point of few. I personally take great joy in people like synechist that talk and think outside the box but lets face it, majority of people rather get put of if they can't relate to someone or something and XC presentation while one of a kind gives me that expression sometimes of beeing to "special". i don't want street talk but a little more peoples language would be better i think. thats not personal synechist , i love your writing style in this thread but for the public image it shoul be more accessible. Right now XC looks like some project of only University professors 50+ if you only read about it in the media and not in here. XC is technically the best. period. and we who know can buy still cheap cause XC on the other hand is not cool atm. for mass adoption that has to change. Yes, I do needed a dictionary on more than one of those releases, even on some of his posts. And that 'easy to read' description about how the anon tech of XC works got a lot of positive response. thats reminds me: one thing was unclear to me, second paragraph: - since this network is a mesh, it does not encounter problems if nodes drop out of the network during the transaction. Thus it's robust against DOS attacks (i.e when a node refuses to sign, which breaks other technologies, like CoinJoin).Fail to understand the link between a 'bad node' (fail to sign can be intentional if i understand it correct) & DOS, Atm think the terms 'multisig' & 'transaction timeout' are needed to explain the reaction to that event or even a split of that bullet between tech problems or a deliberate attempt to steal the coins that sould be forwarded I agree, this is why I have suggested the use of cartoons. Show the users the benefits they get with a picture format story, the front page cartoon should show "why XC?", the subpages should show the benefits each feature can deliver to the customer with a scenario cartoon. However this is only needed at 3.0 when XC targets the public, for now I believe that the communication style is deterring trolls. One minor suggestion would be adding the articles like the web 3.0 as links in the roadmap. I think its rather attracting trolls. Its this underlying projection of superiority in a kind of akademically elite way that provoces constant counteraction. I don't like the Release date mentality in this regard. people want the feeling of beeing part of the movement and i think we are missing out on some grassroots dynamic type of build up. It looks like we have a great channel to the media but not to the people. I mean define " the public" . perhaps i missed something but is there some gigantic crowd out there not carring about crypto right now we expect to be all over XC when rev3 comes? the "crypto public" is watching now and they need to get emotionally involved just as much as intelectually to buy XC. And i don't see that happen with our current release architecture. It really comes down to Arlyn beeing to damm smart, eloquent and also sounding like so basically. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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September 30, 2014, 03:49:38 PM |
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Yes, I do needed a dictionary on more than one of those releases, even on some of his posts. I need a dictionary + google translator english - german Currently i´m on XCurrency-XMIXER_2.49.03 and became a notice ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140930%2F7cbtv65u.jpg&t=665&c=i63cdpBmuqp8rQ) any ideas what this mean ? till present I have never used xchat
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CryptoChronic
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September 30, 2014, 04:02:07 PM |
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Can we get our chat client to look like this? Also in their wallet you dont have to look up ur pub key its displayed for you... and so are everyone elses pub key as long as u have the address for them.... Plus picture and video.. can we add these things? or are they in new UI? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fyu0AYVS.png&t=665&c=PNl3uDPrjOH4OA)
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September 30, 2014, 04:33:51 PM |
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Just wanted to mention XC was mentioned in a book under the old X11 name.
"Anonymous Cryptocurrencies, The rise of Bitcoin alternatives that offer true anonymity." by Will Martin.
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September 30, 2014, 04:40:25 PM |
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Just wanted to mention XC was mentioned in a book under the old X11 name.
"Anonymous Cryptocurrencies, The rise of Bitcoin alternatives that offer true anonymity." by Will Martin.
Are u sure they weren't referring to dark? I believe Dark had X11 first, or did they later mention XC? Dark didn't have the name x11coin, but they were originally called xcoin, I believe. So a reference to x11coin would have indeed been a reference to xcurrency. Or perhaps the book was referencing the X11 algorithm?
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September 30, 2014, 04:51:08 PM |
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Yes, I do needed a dictionary on more than one of those releases, even on some of his posts. I need a dictionary + google translator english - german Currently i´m on XCurrency-XMIXER_2.49.03 and became a notice http://s14.directupload.net/images/140930/7cbtv65u.jpgany ideas what this mean ? till present I have never used xchat This happened to me as well.
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September 30, 2014, 05:08:18 PM |
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Yes, I do needed a dictionary on more than one of those releases, even on some of his posts. I need a dictionary + google translator english - german Currently i´m on XCurrency-XMIXER_2.49.03 and became a notice ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fs14.directupload.net%2Fimages%2F140930%2F7cbtv65u.jpg&t=665&c=i63cdpBmuqp8rQ) any ideas what this mean ? till present I have never used xchat This happened to me as well. Make sure to update to latest release. http://downloads.xc-official.com/release/windows/
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sugarboy321
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September 30, 2014, 05:09:24 PM |
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Just wanted to mention XC was mentioned in a book under the old X11 name.
"Anonymous Cryptocurrencies, The rise of Bitcoin alternatives that offer true anonymity." by Will Martin.
Are u sure they weren't referring to dark? I believe Dark had X11 first, or did they later mention XC? Dark didn't have the name x11coin, but they were originally called xcoin, I believe. So a reference to x11coin would have indeed been a reference to xcurrency. Or perhaps the book was referencing the X11 algorithm? yea just double checked that... ur right Positive it is XC, it references Official website (Possible Old Website?) X11coin.org. Quoting Will Martin (All rights Reserved) "X11coin is an anonymous cryptocurrency that uses a mixing system similar to Darkcoin. As of July 2014 X11coin has less than 1/4 the market capitalization of Darkcoin. X11 creates anonymity through its system of mixing nodes. "Using a decentralized pool of Xnodes, the transactions are untraceable from sender to receiver. XC's platform takes it to the next step by using multi-path technology to relay the transaction between multiple Xnodes and split the transaction into numerous microtransactions. This prevents and single Xnode from knowing the true source and destination of the transaction. The micro transactions also limit reisk due to the nature of splitting 1 transaction into numerous transactions spread out across a pool of Xnodes."
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wooder
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September 30, 2014, 05:57:07 PM |
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i think we need a linux client. Rev2 was released weeks ago and we still don't have a linux client.
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Teka (OP)
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September 30, 2014, 06:15:13 PM |
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Can we get our chat client to look like this? Also in their wallet you dont have to look up ur pub key its displayed for you... and so are everyone elses pub key as long as u have the address for them.... Plus picture and video.. can we add these things? or are they in new UI?
The whole wallet is coded in HTML5 which will also give it the ability to implement new applications right into the wallet. I hold both XC and SDC. XC is miles ahead of other coins in other areas and SDC is ahead of other coins in other areas. Both coins are solid investments. Hi, I'm currently working on the UI. At this moment in time, I'm more focused on mobile. Speaking of which, another teaser coming soon. However I would like to stress that the first revisions of the UI will be based around current technology meaning that they will be more focused on design.
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September 30, 2014, 06:17:34 PM |
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Can we get our chat client to look like this? Also in their wallet you dont have to look up ur pub key its displayed for you... and so are everyone elses pub key as long as u have the address for them.... Plus picture and video.. can we add these things? or are they in new UI? ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fyu0AYVS.png&t=665&c=PNl3uDPrjOH4OA) SDC are smashing it when it comes to UI etc. also check their website, its way better than ours.. I really hope when XC gets its new UI and overall revamp its going to be even better. XC is miles ahead regarding tech, but we need to get on the case regarding things like this. I can't wait until our app is user friendly enough for non tech people. Will be so much easier to spread the word if i can send a download link to a friend and easily have a private chat and then send them some "magic internet money" while im at it.
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G-Bert
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September 30, 2014, 06:24:51 PM |
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Can we get our chat client to look like this? Also in their wallet you dont have to look up ur pub key its displayed for you... and so are everyone elses pub key as long as u have the address for them.... Plus picture and video.. can we add these things? or are they in new UI?
The whole wallet is coded in HTML5 which will also give it the ability to implement new applications right into the wallet. I hold both XC and SDC. XC is miles ahead of other coins in other areas and SDC is ahead of other coins in other areas. Both coins are solid investments. Hi, I'm currently working on the UI. At this moment in time, I'm more focused on mobile. Speaking of which, another teaser coming soon. glad you're more focused on mobile. is it gonna match with the overall new UI? really looking forward to a teaser! can u show us today??? ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif)
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Teka (OP)
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September 30, 2014, 06:30:37 PM |
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Can we get our chat client to look like this? Also in their wallet you dont have to look up ur pub key its displayed for you... and so are everyone elses pub key as long as u have the address for them.... Plus picture and video.. can we add these things? or are they in new UI?
The whole wallet is coded in HTML5 which will also give it the ability to implement new applications right into the wallet. I hold both XC and SDC. XC is miles ahead of other coins in other areas and SDC is ahead of other coins in other areas. Both coins are solid investments. Hi, I'm currently working on the UI. At this moment in time, I'm more focused on mobile. Speaking of which, another teaser coming soon. glad you're more focused on mobile. is it gonna match with the overall new UI? really looking forward to a teaser! can u show us today??? ![Kiss](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/kiss.gif) Well I've already showed a part of it. Just an fyi, these are designs so things might still change. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhquYoCb.png&t=665&c=TolcteB4fzsgeg)
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